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Re: Request for review build.pl.

2013-08-05 Thread Andre Fischer


On 04.08.2013 23:19, janI wrote:

On 4 August 2013 22:53, janI  wrote:


Hi.

I have taken a very deep breath and added a new option to build.pl

if you run
build --all --genPO

dmake will not (as usual be called without parameters), but as "dmake
genPO". I need this to let the makefiles extract all texts from the source
files.

I have little experience with perl, so I hope someone can do a review
please.

I have committed the change in branch l1040 as R1510342.

Look forward to hear comments (or get changes).


I forgot a test message and removed the need for --all, please look at
R1510347 instead.


I looked at your changes ([r1510342], [r1510347]) and have some 
questions and remarks:


- Maybe this would be an opportunity to start readable variable names: I 
have no idea what $corDmake means.


- Instead of setting up the local $corDmake, maybe you could add the 
genPO target (or option?) to $dmake in get_commands()


- Maybe it would be possible to avoid a new build option altogether and 
use something like 'debug=t'?
  In get_options() such unrecognized "options" are appended to 
@dmake_args, and in get_commands() @dmake_args is

  appended to $dmake.

Best regards,

Andre


r1510342: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/l10n40/main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=1505507&r2=1510342&pathrev=1510347
r1510347: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/l10n40/main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=1510342&r2=1510347&pathrev=1510347


rgds
jan I.


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Re: [Build Environment] Windows - build using Java 7 (JDK 1.7) without having Visual Studio

2013-08-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 03.08.2013 10:18, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 01/08/2013 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Version 2.7.1-1 now takes line endings in the patch file and in the file
to be patch serious. Thus, the application of a patch fails when the
line endings are different.


I haven't investigated this deeply at the time, but the hsqldb module
has a mix of line endings (that led to a broken patch too) and uses
CONVERTFILES in makefile.mk to harmonize them.



Thx for the feedback.

In the meanwhile my changes regarding 'patch' version 2.7.1-1 broke the 
Linux build - see our Linux 64bit and 32bit build bots.

I am working on a corresponding patch.




There are issues 121690 [3] and 121754 [4] regarding building with Java
7 (JDK 1.7) and HSQLDB. I think these issues are the duplicates of each
other [please, can one of the people involved in these issues - e.g.
Fred, Ariel or Andrea confirm this? Thx in advance]. As far as I
understood these issues are solved. Please correct me, if I am wrong.


121754 is fixed. 121690 is more generic; I confirm that after fixing
121754 I had no problems in building with Java 7, so it might be that
HSQLDB was the only problem. But I only tried with some "standard" build
options. Namely, I didn't try with --with-junit or similar, and Kay
reported issues with that.



On a Windows system with JRE 6 the installation of my build does not
recognize installed JRE 6 as an Java runtime environment (Menu - Tools -
Option - Java). This is no problem from my point of view as our Windows
users should not have JRE 6 installed anymore on their systems due to
its security risks. Does somebody contradicts?


As far as I know, this would be a significant limitation. We can now
build with Java 5, 6 or 7 and the build can work with Java 5, 6 or 7
(regardless of the version used for building). Restricting this would
require discussion, especially on less common platforms.



I agree that it would be a restriction, but due to the security risks of 
Oracle's JRE 6 I do not think that such a restriction hurts. In contrast 
it would 'help' our Windows users to update their Java environment.


Thus, let us start a new thread to discuss this topic.


Best regards, Oliver.


Regards,
   Andrea.

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review canceled: [Bug 122600] [SVG] problems in SvgSvgNode : [Attachment 81247] Patch to solve several errors with svgsvgnode

2013-08-05 Thread bugzilla

Regina Henschel  has canceled Regina Henschel
's request for review:
Bug 122600: [SVG] problems in SvgSvgNode
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122600

Attachment 81247: Patch to solve several errors with svgsvgnode
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review requested: [Bug 122600] [SVG] problems in SvgSvgNode : [Attachment 81251] Updated patch

2013-08-05 Thread bugzilla

Regina Henschel  has asked Armin Le Grand
 for review:
Bug 122600: [SVG] problems in SvgSvgNode
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122600

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Re: Help build ... I am frustrated.

2013-08-05 Thread janI

On 5 August 2013 08:57, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 03.08.2013 13:58, janI wrote:
>
>> This is solved on IRC thanks.
>>
>
> Can you give a short summary of the solution?  Thanks.
>

of course:

1)  build --show gives you a list of what is going to be built
2) /extras/l10n is referred to as L10N:ll10n in the build.lst (who could
know that)
3) for some unknown reason build does not write the usual header
(building) when entering extras/l10n

So my problem turned out to be in extras/source and not as the output
suggest in l10ntools.

I look forward to implement a more understandable build system.
rgds
jan I.


> -Andre
>
>
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 August 2013 17:02, janI  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 2 August 2013 16:49, janI  wrote:
>>>
>>>

 On 2 August 2013 08:32, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
 orwittm...@googlemail.com

> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 01.08.2013 17:30, janI wrote:
>
>  Hi.
>>
>> When I e.g. stand in trunk/main/l10ntools and say
>>
>> build
>>
>> no params, it does not run prj/d.lst and does not copy to solver.
>>
>>
>>  Command 'build' called inside a non-gbuild module does not deliver
> the
> build results to the solver - it only creates the build results.
> To deliver the build results of a non-gbuild module into the solver you
> need to call command 'deliver'
>
> thx for the help, but now I am more confused, I keep getting an error
> in
>
 "build --all"

 cd l10ntools
 build --> success
 deliver --> success

 cd ../instsetoo_native
 build --all:l10ntool

 =
 Building module l10n
 =

 Entering /share/opensource/aoo/**branches/l10n40/extras/l10n/**source

 dmake: Executing shell macro: cd $(PRJ)/source && ls -1 */localize.sdf
 if [ -f ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf ] ; then mv ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf../
 unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdfunxlngx6.**pro_begone;
  fi
 rm -rf 
 ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/**sdfunxlngx6.pro_begone
 mkdir -p ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf
 /usr/bin/perl /share/opensource/aoo/**branches/l10n40/main/solver/**
 400/
 unxlngx6.pro/bin/fast_merge.pl -sdf_files /tmp/mkqLKUYi -merge_dir ../
 unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf && touch 
 ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/merge.**done
 Can't open perl script
 "/share/opensource/aoo/**branches/l10n40/main/solver/**400/
 unxlngx6.pro/bin/fast_merge.pl**": No such file or directory
 dmake:  Error code 2, while making 
 '../unxlngx6.pro/misc/merge.**done
 '


 I have renamed all l10ntools modules (to be sure I catch all places
 where
 the old modules are called), so it is correct that fast_merge does not
 exist.

 but, when its not "build" and not "deliver", where can I find the "shell
 macro" ?

  Sorry I reformulate my question, find it, its in extras/l10n/source/
>>> makefile.mk.
>>>
>>> Now I just wonder why and  where extras/l10n is called when building
>>> main/l10ntools.
>>>
>>> I look forward to the day, where we have a build system that is
>>> understandable :-)
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan I.
>>>
>>>
>>>  thx in advance.
 rgds
 jan I.

 Best regards, Oliver.

>
>   How can I pursuade build to build the targets AND copy to solver.
>
>> thx in advance.
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>> Ps. the more frustrated I get, the more I think about replacing the
>> whole
>> build, but please dont let that stop you from giving me a hint.
>>
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Re: Open office Calc

2013-08-05 Thread Andre Fischer

On 02.08.2013 14:57, Rob Weir wrote:

BTW, I received a more detailed note from the user, to my personal
mail. It sounds like this was an unintentional use of drag & drop
rather than a bug in how drag & drop works.

It looks like there is a system-wide registry setting for rag & drop
sensitivity in Windows:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/can-you-turn-off-drag-and-drop-in-windows-7/81804779-a061-e011-8dfc-68b599b31bf5

The link above leads to a community forum that explains how to change
the values of registry entry'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop'.
To me that does not look like something other applications (like AOO)
should use.

-Andre

But I don't know whether OpenOffice follows that setting or not.

I suggest we treat this like an accessibility issue. Some users may
have limited finger coordination and accidentally invoke drag & drop.
But it will be best if we can hook into OS-level accessibility
settings for this. For example, we don't have "sticky keys" support
or a setting for determining how fast a pair of clicks must be to be
considered a double-click. We rely on the OS for that. If we could
do something similar for drag & drop that would be great.

-Rob

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Andris Vanags [Multistate]
wrote:

Please disable the DRAG AND DROP (probably called a feature but it's really a
bug), or put in an option to disable it.
I've just noticed that I've ruined a spreadsheet that's taken years to produce
with data recorded in it daily.

Could you say a bit more about exactly how drag & drop caused
problems? Did it crash your machine? Did it work incorrectly? Or
are you saying that you were not aware of drag & drop and so you
caused changes to your spreadsheet that you did not intend?

It would be good to narrow down the issue, so we can see whether this
is a bug in drag & drop itself, or something else.

Regards,

-Rob

Today I've found it's now all crap, useless, irreparable, a total waste of some
7 years work and research!
Why didn't I create backups? I did, but the unadulterated ones are (before
using open office calc) now well over a year old, so all the data entered
since then is lost or patchy/intermittent at best; all the continuity is gone!
Thanks for that! Seven years of work destroyed because someone didn't have
the brains to disable this data ruining feature!

I have to revert to Microsoft where this evil feature can be disabled and start
work all over again. It really does go to show that there's a big difference
between professionally produced packages and something that's free or just
knocked up in someone's bedroom!

If you want to help your users, get someone to look at this abomination before
more work is irretrievably ruined.

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Re: Request for review build.pl.

2013-08-05 Thread janI

On 5 August 2013 09:18, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 04.08.2013 23:19, janI wrote:
>
>> On 4 August 2013 22:53, janI  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi.
>>>
>>> I have taken a very deep breath and added a new option to build.pl
>>>
>>> if you run
>>> build --all --genPO
>>>
>>> dmake will not (as usual be called without parameters), but as "dmake
>>> genPO". I need this to let the makefiles extract all texts from the
>>> source
>>> files.
>>>
>>> I have little experience with perl, so I hope someone can do a review
>>> please.
>>>
>>> I have committed the change in branch l1040 as R1510342.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hear comments (or get changes).
>>>
>>>  I forgot a test message and removed the need for --all, please look at
>> R1510347 instead.
>>
>
> I looked at your changes ([r1510342], [r1510347]) and have some questions
> and remarks:
>
> - Maybe this would be an opportunity to start readable variable names: I
> have no idea what $corDmake means.
>
it meant corrected dmake, but its gone.

>
> - Instead of setting up the local $corDmake, maybe you could add the genPO
> target (or option?) to $dmake in get_commands()


> - Maybe it would be possible to avoid a new build option altogether and
> use something like 'debug=t'?
>   In get_options() such unrecognized "options" are appended to
> @dmake_args, and in get_commands() @dmake_args is
>   appended to $dmake.
>

good idea, I did it slightly different. Check on --genPO and then make a
push.

central change is removed, now its much more elegant and readable (if you
can call perl for readable).

see R1510396

thanks for the ideas.

rgds
jan I.


> Best regards,
>
> Andre
>
>
> r1510342: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**openoffice/branches/l10n40/**
> main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=**1505507&r2=1510342&pathrev=**1510347
> r1510347: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**openoffice/branches/l10n40/**
> main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=**1510342&r2=1510347&pathrev=**1510347
>
>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>  rgds
>>> jan I
>>>
>>>
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Re: Wrong link on fr main page

2013-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)


Am 08/04/2013 03:34 PM, schrieb Guilhem Bonnefille:

Hi,

I've just noticed that the link called "liste des
nouveautés"
on the main page ( http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ ) points to an unrelated
page.

Best regards,


Thanks for the hint. I've fixed it.

Marcus

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Re: Request for review build.pl.

2013-08-05 Thread Andre Fischer


On 05.08.2013 11:01, janI wrote:

On 5 August 2013 09:18, Andre Fischer  wrote:


On 04.08.2013 23:19, janI wrote:


On 4 August 2013 22:53, janI  wrote:

  Hi.

I have taken a very deep breath and added a new option to build.pl

if you run
 build --all --genPO

dmake will not (as usual be called without parameters), but as "dmake
genPO". I need this to let the makefiles extract all texts from the
source
files.

I have little experience with perl, so I hope someone can do a review
please.

I have committed the change in branch l1040 as R1510342.

Look forward to hear comments (or get changes).

  I forgot a test message and removed the need for --all, please look at

R1510347 instead.


I looked at your changes ([r1510342], [r1510347]) and have some questions
and remarks:

- Maybe this would be an opportunity to start readable variable names: I
have no idea what $corDmake means.


it meant corrected dmake, but its gone.


- Instead of setting up the local $corDmake, maybe you could add the genPO
target (or option?) to $dmake in get_commands()



- Maybe it would be possible to avoid a new build option altogether and
use something like 'debug=t'?
   In get_options() such unrecognized "options" are appended to
@dmake_args, and in get_commands() @dmake_args is
   appended to $dmake.


good idea, I did it slightly different. Check on --genPO and then make a
push.


I like the new version much better.  The use of the --genPO option 
instead of something like genPO=true makes it clear that dmake or build 
is not used for a regular build but for string extraction.




central change is removed, now its much more elegant and readable (if you
can call perl for readable).


You are right, much more elegant.
And yes, I think that one can write readable Perl scripts. At least I 
don't have to put on night vision goggles to distinguish spaces from 
tabs like I do for Python :-)


-Andre



see R1510396

thanks for the ideas.

rgds
jan I.



Best regards,

Andre


r1510342: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**openoffice/branches/l10n40/**
main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=**1505507&r2=1510342&pathrev=**1510347
r1510347: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**openoffice/branches/l10n40/**
main/solenv/bin/build.pl?r1=**1510342&r2=1510347&pathrev=**1510347



rgds
jan I.

  rgds

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Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-08-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 8/2/13 10:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 30/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>> I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single activity
>> to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a
>> project
>> multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
>> purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
>> artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
>> with these videos.
> 
> This is a great idea. The project can surely use better marketing
> materials, be it video chunks, screenshots, images, nice documents that
> show the new features...

I agree it's a good idea and I had the same ... But I wasn't able to
finish my tests in time for the 4.0 release.

But in general I think we should establish our own YouTube channel where
we provide screencasts and other media files on a regular basis.

Important is that we use a common framework and Drew started in this
direction already.

We need a common credit section for the end of all media files, with
some community info, links, donation info etc.

A common intro section would also make sense, or maybe a collection of
1-5 different including seasonal ones like a Christmas branded intro or so.

Screencast are better than a slideshow, at least if possible we should
trz to produce short screencast sections based on a script. And ideally
a native speaker with a good voice can provide a related spoken
explanation to the screencast (Drew's voice sounds well to me).

> 
>> For the 'community' category - These pieces:
>> CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running
>> on a
>> laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this
>> with
>> a license.
>> AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
>> little party music.
> 
> The result is nice, but the music covers the voice at times. Also, I
> would keep links very simple, so not openoffice.apache.org and not the
> full URL to the inner pages. I think it's "Community over code" and not
> "before code". For the rest, it's impressive to see how the single
> chunks can be rearranged to target different use cases. The voiceover is
> good and clear.

we can have both music sections (with hopefully different music ;-)) and
voice over sections where a clear voice give explanations.

> 
>> So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the
>> projects use
>> an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would
>> include the
>> OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
>> instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use
>> of the
>> material.
> 
> This would be perfect. At the moment we don't have many OpenOffice 4
> specific materials, so any well-done videos/graphics are welcome.

yes and with some more experience it should be really fun to produce
stuff like this ... I tried to play with iMovie on my Mac (see my very
first attempts http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/AOO40_Test.mov) and I
just played around a bit...

Juergen

>> What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
>> willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
>> over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round robin
>> fashion.
> 
> This is stuff that we could also use on the main openoffice.org website,
> not only on the download site.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: [Build Environment] Windows - build using Java 7 (JDK 1.7) without having Visual Studio

2013-08-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 8/5/13 10:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 03.08.2013 10:18, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 01/08/2013 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>> Version 2.7.1-1 now takes line endings in the patch file and in the file
>>> to be patch serious. Thus, the application of a patch fails when the
>>> line endings are different.
>>
>> I haven't investigated this deeply at the time, but the hsqldb module
>> has a mix of line endings (that led to a broken patch too) and uses
>> CONVERTFILES in makefile.mk to harmonize them.
>>
> 
> Thx for the feedback.
> 
> In the meanwhile my changes regarding 'patch' version 2.7.1-1 broke the
> Linux build - see our Linux 64bit and 32bit build bots.
> I am working on a corresponding patch.
> 
>>
>>> There are issues 121690 [3] and 121754 [4] regarding building with Java
>>> 7 (JDK 1.7) and HSQLDB. I think these issues are the duplicates of each
>>> other [please, can one of the people involved in these issues - e.g.
>>> Fred, Ariel or Andrea confirm this? Thx in advance]. As far as I
>>> understood these issues are solved. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
>>
>> 121754 is fixed. 121690 is more generic; I confirm that after fixing
>> 121754 I had no problems in building with Java 7, so it might be that
>> HSQLDB was the only problem. But I only tried with some "standard" build
>> options. Namely, I didn't try with --with-junit or similar, and Kay
>> reported issues with that.
>>
>>
>>> On a Windows system with JRE 6 the installation of my build does not
>>> recognize installed JRE 6 as an Java runtime environment (Menu - Tools -
>>> Option - Java). This is no problem from my point of view as our Windows
>>> users should not have JRE 6 installed anymore on their systems due to
>>> its security risks. Does somebody contradicts?
>>
>> As far as I know, this would be a significant limitation. We can now
>> build with Java 5, 6 or 7 and the build can work with Java 5, 6 or 7
>> (regardless of the version used for building). Restricting this would
>> require discussion, especially on less common platforms.
>>
> 
> I agree that it would be a restriction, but due to the security risks of
> Oracle's JRE 6 I do not think that such a restriction hurts. In contrast
> it would 'help' our Windows users to update their Java environment.
> 
> Thus, let us start a new thread to discuss this topic.

we should think how relevant it is and if we have more work to support
it. As Oliver pointed out, the latest security problems of Java result
in probably many updated systems. I don't see that Java 5 or 6 is
important in the future and we should focus on the future.

Juergen

> 
> 
> Best regards, Oliver.
> 
>> Regards,
>>Andrea.
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Re: IA2 branch testing of r1484083 merege with trunk

2013-08-05 Thread James Teh


On 2/08/2013 3:59 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Also, no problems before or after the reboot with navigating onto the AOO
ia2 Writer session with  movments so not sure what was happening
there for you.
I've since discovered that I can only reproduce this if I run Writer 
directly; i.e. via the icon named "OpenOffice Writer" in the Start Menu 
or by running swriter.exe. If I run the main OpenOffice application 
(i.e. the icon named "OpenOffice" in the Start Menu or soffice.exe), 
everything works as it should, even after I select to open a new text 
document. If I open a file associated with OpenOffice, everything works 
correctly also.


Can you reproduce this by running Writer directly?

Jamie

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