Glucks CVS doesnt work anymore, no ssh either

2005-04-03 Thread Craig Small
Hello,
  I tried comitting changes to some webpages using CVS and got this
  error:
cvs commit -m 'added linuxjunkies and linuxcuyuz' vendors.CD
Enter passphrase for key '/home/csmall/.ssh/id_rsa':
cvs [commit aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

I cannot ssh to gluck, not sure if I'm supposed to do this normally.
$ ssh gluck.debian.org Enter passphrase for key '/home/csmall/.ssh/id_rsa':
Connection to gluck.debian.org closed by remote host.
Connection to gluck.debian.org closed.

Using a -v flag says I authenticate, then get kicked off.

What's going on?

  - Craig
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AM Report for Week Ending 04 Mar 2001

2001-03-04 Thread Craig Small
  Weekly Report on Debian New Maintainers
  ===

For week ending 04 Mar 2001.

Weekly Summary Statistics
=
4 more people applied to become a new maintainer
12 applicants became maintainers.

New Maintainers
===
The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
Luca De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Tim Riker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Aubin Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Kenneth Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Ross Peachey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Thom May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Francesco Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
. Wookey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jens Schmalzing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Database inconsistency errors
-
AM confirm date filled in but AM confirm field blank
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager assigned date before apply date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2001-01-18 occurs after 2001-01-17 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2001-01-18 occurs after 2001-01-17 
AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-04-16 occurs after 2000-03-28 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-09-01 occurs after 0200-09-05 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-05-18 occurs after 2000-05-01 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2001-02-26 occurs after 2001-02-25 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-11-09 occurs after 2000-09-11 



Re: Problem on whoisam.php page!

2001-03-05 Thread Craig Small
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:35:51PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:02:14PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> >  I was today noticed about a bug we have in the whoisam.php page.  It
> > seems that the mailadresses there are made up from the am-login and
> > @debian.org and _not_ from the real debian.org adresses of the AMs
> > (which can be different).
> 
> I think we should completely remove the personal email addresses from that
> page. It's just a gift to spammer bots, nobody else needs that list anyway.
> 
I've removed it, It's a totally pointless and useless thing to hasve to
do but if it saves this list from having an even more useless flamewar
about it then it s removal was beneficial.

  - Craig
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AM report on Jean-Marc Chaton

2001-03-05 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Jean-Marc Chaton
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Debian developer Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Adrian's key id matches that of db.debian.org
ID step passed

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Agrees and understands DFSG and the social contract.  Was able to explain them
in his own words and some of the terms used (like free).
Answered correctly questions about BTS, linitian, versions, bugs etc
P&P check passed


Tasks & Skills
--
Packaged htmlgen at http://chaton.jm.free.fr/debian/deb/
As it was a small package I also asked him some questionms about various bits
of the packages which he answered correctly.
T&S check passed.


Recommendation
--
I recommend that Jean-Marc be accepted as a Debian maintainer

Debian login: 'chaton' or if not 'jcn'
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: AM Report for Week Ending 04 Mar 2001

2001-03-05 Thread Craig Small
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:44:04AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010304 23:57]:
> > Database inconsistency errors
> > -
> > AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-04-16 occurs after 2000-03-28
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-09-01 occurs after 0200-09-05
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-05-18 occurs after 2000-05-01
> 
> I eliminated all inconsistencies, but these three (I don't have access
> to them).
How embarrasing, one of them was mine :)
I've added a feature so it prints out the maintainer name after the
error so it is easy to scan the report.

  - Craig
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Erik de Castro on hold

2001-03-06 Thread Craig Small
The applicant is currently very busy and has been put on hold for a
while until things quieten down.

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AM report for Michael Hummel

2001-03-06 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Michael Hummel
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Debian developer Gerfried Fuchs (Alfie) 
ID check passed

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Can explain free, DFSG and social contract and agres to abid eby them for 
Debian work. Agrees to machine use policy.  Correctly answered some policy 
questions.
P&P passed.

Tasks & Skills
--
Packaging jed-state package was lintian clean and looked ok
T&S check passed.

Recommendation
--
I recommend that Michael be accepted as a Debian maintainer.

Debian login: mh or mhummel if that is too short
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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AM Report for Week Ending 11 Mar 2001

2001-03-11 Thread Craig Small
  Weekly Report on Debian New Maintainers
  ===

For week ending 11 Mar 2001.

Weekly Summary Statistics
=
5 more people applied to become a new maintainer
13 applicants became maintainers.

New Maintainers
===
The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
Fredrik Liljegren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Andrew McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Simon Horman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jean-Marc Chaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Daniel Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Wouter Vries, de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Manuel Estrada Sainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Ivan Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Mikael Hedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Database inconsistency errors
-
  Maintainer name is in brackets.
AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-05-18 occurs after 2000-05-01 (gecko)



AM report on Jan Niehusmann

2001-03-11 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Jan Niehusmann
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Debian developer Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
key checkes out on db.d.o
ID step passed.

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Explained free and DFSG in own words.  Correctly answered questions about
P&P and clarified some answers wrt DFSG and licenses
P&P check passed.

Tasks & Skills
--
Packaged RFA'ed package rat.  Looks fine.
T&S check passed.

Recommendation
--
I recommend that Jan be accepted as a Debian maintainer.

Debian login: jan
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: AM Report for Week Ending 11 Mar 2001

2001-03-11 Thread Craig Small
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:28:37PM +, James Troup wrote:
> Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > New Maintainers
> > ===
> > The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
> > Fredrik Liljegren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> Just for the record, Fredrik didn't become a maintainer this week,
> that's a glitch in Craig's script.

Yeah I was depending on a not null instead of checking the value of the
boolean (so both true and false were true). Fixed now.

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AM report for Peter van Rossum

2001-03-12 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Peter van Rossum
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Debian developers Joost van Baal, Joop Stakenborg,
and Paul van Tilburg.  Howver I could not determine wether or not
Paul has signed the key as it appears his key id may of changed.
In any case, ID step passed.


Philosophy & Procedures
---
Can explain DFSG and free in own words. Agrees to abide by DMUP.
Correctly answered questions.
P&P passed.


Tasks & Skills
--
Packaged Scid a chess database with GUI, sponsored by Colin Watson.
(cjwatson) Colin is happy with how he has packaged scid.
T&S check passed.


Recommendation
--
I recommend that Peter be accepted as a Debian maintainer.

Debian login: petervr
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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First impressions of new advocate applicants

2001-03-12 Thread Craig Small
G'day NMs,
  I've now processed two applicants that are under the new advocate
system and I thought I'd share with you my impressions of this new way.
Of course this is only on two applicants so there is obviously a large
sample error.

Looking at the statistics, it usually takes me about a month and a half
or so to process an applicant.  I've had some quicker ones as well but
it generally takes a month.  Both of the advocated applicants took
roughly a week and most of that delay was from me (or being somewhere
where there isn't a computer).

Both the applicants had a much better idea of what I was after.  Even
though they didn't quite get some thnigs right (most applicants don't
or I ask for clarification) their first go was usually better.

This is not to say that all previously non-advocated applicants are bad,
I've had some amazing ones who got through in a few days before, and
others who have taken longer who are contributing usefully to the
project now but it does seem the advocate part is working.

  - Craig
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Reaping non-advocated applicants

2001-03-12 Thread Craig Small
G'day,
(speaking as the NM website maintainer rather than an AM here)
Currently the NM system does not reap (delete, remove, hide, flag,
whatever) applicants that do not have an advocate and have waited
for a certain amount of time.

I can put a facility in that runs through the list weekly and finds
these applicants and then does something to the application.  It could
also email them letting them know what has happened.

How does this sound to people?

  - Craig
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AM Report for Joshua Haberman

2001-03-18 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Joshua Haberman
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Ian Eure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ID step passed.

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Can explain social contract DFSG, agrees to abide by DFSG for Debian work.
Agrees with DMUP. Correctly answered questions.
P&P check passed.

Tasks & Skills
--
Packaged audio editor call Audacity and is also one of the upstream authors
of this. http://www.reverberate.org/woody/
Package looked ok and was lintian clean
T&S check passed.

Recommendation
--
I recommend that Joshua be accepted as a Debian Maintainer

Debian login: joshua
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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AM report for Cyrille Chepelov

2001-03-18 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Cyrille Chepelov
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed Debian developer (and ex NM for me) Ralf Treinen

pub  1024D/F7F6AAD9 1999-09-24 Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   F7F6AAD9 2000-01-12  Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   E0BA04C1 2001-03-01  Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
uidCyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   F7F6AAD9 2000-05-13  Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig?   A879BEF8 1999-09-24
sig!   E0BA04C1 2001-03-01  Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sub  1024g/DC2D3B5C 1999-09-24
sig!   F7F6AAD9 1999-09-24  Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ID step passed.

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Correctly answered the given questions correctly. Agrees with DMUP and can
explain free, social contract and DFSG in own words.
P&P check passed.

Tasks & Skills
--
Packaged two sponsored packages: dia2code and libgtkpgs which are sponsored 
by Ralf.  Ralf was very happy how they turned out.
dia2code is in the distribution, libgtkpgs is not due to dependency problems.
A discussion of those problems showed good knowledge of that aspect of Debian.

T&S passed.

Recommendation
--
I recommend that Cyrille be accepted as a Debian maintainer.

Debian login: chep
Forwarding email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: NM Applicant Michael Fedrowitz

2001-03-18 Thread Craig Small
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 03:10:44PM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> I think we should try to push applicants to make some serious effort
> to have their key signed.  In the case of Michael (under the hypothesis
> that he really is based in Ulm) it seems reasonable to expect that he arranges
> something with a developer in Stuttgart or Augsburg.
> 
> On the other hand I understand that AMs can not always evaluate the
> situation when they don't know the country of the applicant. In this
> case why not ask for help on this list? I'll be glad to answer that
> type of question for France and Germany, for instance.

Good idea, after James' message about we strongly prefers a signed key I
have not let any applicants through without a signed key.

I generally run through the db.d.o and then try to filter on
province/state as well as country.

I then might say developers are at "Sydney, Wollongong, Nowra,
Strathfield".  and let the applicant tell me the closest one:
"Strathfield, if not then Sydney".

Then I ask the maintainers, only if they agree do i tell the applicant
it the maintainers name.
  - Craig
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AM Report for Week Ending 18 Mar 2001

2001-03-18 Thread Craig Small
  Weekly Report on Debian New Maintainers
  ===

For week ending 18 Mar 2001.

Weekly Summary Statistics
=
4 more people applied to become a new maintainer
15 applicants became maintainers.

New Maintainers
===
The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
Carlos Prados <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Rémi Perrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Thomas Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
James Antill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jochen Voß <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jerome Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Michael Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Peter van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Jan Niehusmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
JP Sugarbroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Karl Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Johannes Hirche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
González-Barahona Jesús M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Database inconsistency errors
-
  Maintainer name is in brackets.
AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-05-18 occurs after 2000-05-01 (gecko)



automatic letters

2001-03-20 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I've drafted two emails that will be sent out at 3 and 6 weeks of an
applicant who is not advocated. Comments please!

3 week one, warning


Dear ,
  On  you applied to become a Debian maintainer on the Debian
New Maintainer website at http://nm.debian.org/  After 3 weeks of applying,
all applicants who have not yet been advocated receive this warning email.

Advocation is where a current Debian maintainer believe you have made enough
preparations for applying to a maintainer.  It is generally reasonably easy 
to be advocated.  For example if you are wanting to build packages for
the Debian project then you would probably want to build it and get it
checked and uploaded by a sponsor (see 
http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ for more information)
then your sponsor to be your advocate.  If you are working on a porting
or translation subproject, then someone their should be able to advocate you.

After 6 weeks of being in the waiting for advocate queue your application
will automatically be deleted from the New Maintainer database.  After
that time if you then believe you are now prepared for the new maintainer
process you are free to reapply.

For more information about advocates, see 
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-advocate

  - New Maintainer Committee


now the 6 week one, your deleted


Dear ,
  On  you applied to become a Debian maintainer on the Debian
New Maintainer website at http://nm.debian.org/  After 6 weeks of applying,
all applications who have not yet been advocated are deleted.

Advocation is where a current Debian maintainer believe you have made enough
preparations for applying to a maintainer.  It is generally reasonably easy 
to be advocated.  For example if you are wanting to build packages for
the Debian project then you would probably want to build it and get it
checked and uploaded by a sponsor (see 
http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ for more information)
then your sponsor to be your advocate.  If you are working on a porting
or translation subproject, then someone their should be able to advocate you.

This email is to inform you that your application has now been deleted.

For more information about advocates, see 
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-advocate

  - New Maintainer Committee


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AM report for Jonas Smedegaard

2001-03-21 Thread Craig Small

AM report on Jonas Smedegaard
by Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
==

ID
---
GPG key signed by Debian developer Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
pub  1024D/C02440B8 2000-05-14 Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   C02440B8 2000-05-14  Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   2C8B195A 2000-12-11  Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
uidJonas Smedegaard (Vaio) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sig!   C02440B8 2000-08-27  Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sub  1024g/8AB61163 2000-05-14
sig!   C02440B8 2000-05-14  Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ID step passed.

Philosophy & Procedures
---
Answered questions about orphans, BTS, version numbers and bugs. 
Agrees to abide to DMUP and explained DFSG and social contract in own words.
Explains the difference between free beer and free speech.
P&P check passed.

Tasks & Skills
--
Jonas packaged webcal, a web based calendar.  It was lintian clean
and looked fine.
T&S check passed.

Recommendation
--
I recommend that Jonas be accepted as a Debian maintainer

Debian login: jones
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AM Report for Week Ending 25 Mar 2001

2001-03-25 Thread Craig Small
  Weekly Report on Debian New Maintainers
  ===

For week ending 25 Mar 2001.

Weekly Summary Statistics
=
2 more people applied to become a new maintainer
7 applicants became maintainers.

New Maintainers
===
The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Joshua Haberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Stephan Helma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Shane Wegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Ricardo Javier Cárdenes Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sam Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Carlos Laviola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Database inconsistency errors
-
  Maintainer name is in brackets.
AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2000-05-18 occurs after 2000-05-01 (gecko)



NM website wml files now in CVS

2001-03-01 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I've installed the WML source to the nm.debian.org website into the 
Debian CVS.  It's in the webwml cvs root and the module is newmaint.

pandora will 4 times a day download and changes to those files
(and the English template) and rebuild the website.

Please, please be careful touching some of those files as there is some
reasonably complex PHP code there and you might bork it up, especially
when the evil WML runs over it and puts "" where you least expect.

  - Craig
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Re: wml and other stuff we'll need

1998-08-11 Thread Craig Small
Will Lowe wrote:
> I'm going to buy a copy of Larry Wall's perl book.
> 
> Can someone recommend a good way to learn wml?
I'm starting to learn it too, the guy's web site has some examples but
it is somewhat confusing.  Downloading the wml documents off the CVS
server are also a good way of learning.

I thought wml was pretty neat.  So good in fact that I'm thinking of
converting my home site to it.  My biggest issue is how well it integrates
with perl CGI's; I may have to convert them to php first.

  - Craig


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Re: 'nother idea: history.html

1998-08-13 Thread Craig Small
Will Lowe wrote:
> > This type of thing should be something open to all developers to work on.
> > The bottom of intro/about.html has been waiting for someone to work on
> > a history for over a year. It is best if we can get ANYONE to write
> > a history and we simply htmlize afterwards.
> 
> Maybe Ian Murdock would be a good person to ask?  I don't mind
> coordinating the effort but I only got here a year ago...
I'm not sure how accurate the following is, but I have heard it from
several sources, you may want to ask Bruce himself.

Bruce Perens first got interested in Debian when he was thinking of making
a CD "Linux for Hams" which was going to contain all the various bits of
software to use Linux for hamradio operators.

But Debian was still in an undeveloped state so he spent more time working
on the generic Debian stuff than on the hamradio part.  Work on the ham 
CD stopped, though up until a few months ago he was still committed to making
this CD (some of you may remember his "hearty FU" email, he mentioned that he
was going to make this, but use redhat instead). In light of his latest
"FU all" email I'm not sure if he is continuing it.

Incidently, there is now a group of us working on the hamradio packages.
I suppose we're continuing on his work.

A web page about Linux for hams is on 
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/HAM-HOWTO-13.html#ss13.4
it has a link to bruce's (uncomplete) web site.

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Debian logo page

1998-08-19 Thread Craig Small
G'day people,
  We have a slight problem with the debian logo page, 
http://www.debian.org/logos/ It has a link to the page that had all the 
logos on http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/
which now refers people back to http://www.debian.org/

So what has happened to all those nice "losing" logos?

  - Craig

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Re: Debian logo page

1998-08-19 Thread Craig Small
Martin Schulze wrote:
> Craig Small wrote:
> > So what has happened to all those nice "losing" logos?
> 
> Please read the archive of debian-www.  Christian had to close is machine

Perhaps I should of phrased that better.. Now that Christian has closed his
machine, where are those pages going to?

  - Craig

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Where the debian logos have gone

1998-08-19 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  At Joey's urging, I went looking through the mail archives for the 
the email regarding what was going to happen to the logo pages on
fatman.  In debian-devel Christain says:
" I thought about these pages again and decided to remove these pages from
  the net completely (of course, I'll save an offline copy at home just in
  case...).  Though the different logos have been a lot of work, these pages
  and the "votes" on the pages still seem to confuse some people. 

  If someone strongly objects now and wants to keep these pages online,
  please contact me.  In that case, it would be necessary to rework the
  pages completely.  Again, I'd help with this, but I'm not doing all the
  work myself!"

( http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9808/msg00672.html )

I guess we have to decide first if we want to bring these pages back to
life and if so what we want to do with them.  I like the idea of Debian
having multiple logos (but one official one). But I understand if people
don't want them back.

  - Craig

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Re: how should we handle vendor advertising

1998-08-27 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy wrote:
> As many people judge us by the CDs, we need to come up with a better
> system. I would like to list every vendors product that carries
> Debian on the page. People can then submit corrections if they find
> a problem with a specific product. This will help others avoid
> that product while avoiding having us to blacklist vendors.
How will you accept these comments.

> Anyone got ideas on this?
I think the layout is a bit confusing, though I'm not sure how else it
should be layed out.  I'm surprised this is the only sellers of Debian.

> BTW, I'd really like someone to take responsibility for this page.
Is this the page http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors ?  If so I'll look
after it if you like, I have been waiting for a smallish task to come along.

  - Craig

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Re: layout of web pages

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Small
[Nicol_s Lichtmaier] wrote:
> > Exactly.  In fact, Netscape's handling of heading and paragraphs is
> > atrocious.  Maybe it inherited the foolishness from Mosaic - I can't
> > remember.  The point, anyway, is that  should be thought of as 'put space
> > here'.
> > 
> > Personally, I think we should aim for properly paired ... tags in
> > pages we produce.  Mine do, mostly.
> 
>  There's absolutelly no reason for doing so. You aren't following the
> stamdard more closely with that.
> 
>  What should only be needed is to use  at the start of paragraphs and not
> at the end, as many people do.

Why not read the HTML 4.0 spec? It says:

9.3.1 Paragraphs: the P element

 
 



 Start tag: required, End tag: optional

So it's optional.  I don't use them  myself as it is not recommended
by many of the web designers here or in fact in any of the books I've 
read. 

I must say though that the css stuff is most excellent.

 - Craig
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Re: more modifications to the web pages

1998-10-13 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy wrote:
> After being bugged by the publisher for ages, an entry has been
> added to distrib/vendors about the Debian book which comes with a
> CD. Hopefully enough books will come out over the next few years
> that they can get their own page.
This wouldn't be the linuxmall people would it?  They seem to be having
a problem understanding simple instructions if it is.  They emailled me asking
to be put on and I asked them for some more details but only got some wierdo
single line replies that I had no idea what they were trying to say, I think
one was "atlanta " for example.

I have been getting replies back from most people about that web page, and
made some suggested modifications.

  - Craig

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Re: todo list

1998-10-19 Thread Craig Small
Darren Benham wrote:
> Well people,  I added a todo list html.  If you want to look at it, it's 
> located
> at http://www.debian.org/todo.html (or just check it out from CVS).  I did it
> mostly for myself, so that I had a list in common between home and work.

Urgh, it's one big chunk of text, I assume you don't mean it for it to
be read as html.

All the vendors web sites need to be checked to see that
they actually contribute. They should also be checked after each major release 
of Debian. user suggestion: add www.linux-canada.com Walnut Creek
may sell Debian. Their web site needs to be checked. This page is being 
maintained by... seeS? 

seeS is my nick on irc, I've had a look on some sites but I emailled all the
vendors as well.  You can change that to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I see I'll have to check www.linux-canada.com and Walnut Creek.

  - Craig


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Re: Debian CD Web page

1998-10-26 Thread Craig Small
Dale Scheetz wrote:
> Sorry it took me so long to reply, but I have been very busy.
> 
> I also only speak English. So, explain to me why, when I go to the above
> URL I see the title:
> 
> Fabricantes de CDs
> 
> And the rest of the page is equally incomprehensible. I found my
> reference, but can only verify that the e-mail address is correct, and
> that I still do not have a web page, although that is soon to change.
> 
> Let me know when I can read the page ;-)
G'day Dwarf,
  I believe that this is a common problem with the site with certain
versions of netscape and the language negotiation.  I have passed your
comments onto the rest of the webmasters in case it is something different.

  - Craig

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Re: needed changes to the Debian pages

1998-10-01 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy wrote:
> /distrib/vendors
>   All the vendors web sites need to be checked to see that they actually 
> contribute.
>   They should also be checked after each major release of Debian.
> 
>   user suggestion: add www.linux-canada.com
> 
>   Walnut Creek may sell Debian. Their web site needs to be checked.
This is me I think, ok I will get onto it. 

Also, can people have a look at this url and think about the general layout
of these pages? Are there any suggestions you can think of?

If I see any mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] for that particular part of the
site I'll reply, otherwise I'll be quiet.

  - Craig



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COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Edition 2.0 (fwd)

1998-11-02 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I'm just wondering if this should go onto the CD vendor web page and if
so, where?  Do we have a spot for this or should I just put something like
Official CD + Book or something?

  - Craig

- Forwarded message from Sales Department -

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Nov  3 02:51:10 1998
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Sales Department <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Edition 2.0
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-SpamBouncer: 1.00h (10/29/98)
X-SBRule: Pass-No Pattern Matching
X-SBClass: OK
X-Sorted: Default

I hope one of you gentleman can assist in getting this
posted to the debian announce newsgroup as well as getting
this information listed on the debian web pages.

If you can't please provide information regarding the correct
party.  Thanks.
--

   The Debian Linux User's Guide
   Second Edition
 +

November 2, 1998
For Public Release

Linux Press announces The Debian Linux User's Guide.

This newly released product is the second major effort at providing
a commercial version of Debian GNU/Linux.  Linux Press has seen that
Debian GNU/Linux has been well received for good reason by the Linux
community.  Linux Press felt Debian GNU/Linux could be further enhanced
by providing comprehensive documentation and technical support.

The result is The Debian Linux User's Guide, which includes the following:

 250 Page Book titled "The Debian Linux User's Guide"
 2 CD-ROM Debian "Official" GNU/Linux 2.0 Set
 1 CD-ROM with extra files 
 30 Days of E-mail Technical Support


1. OVERVIEW OF PRODUCT
-  ---
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  Introduction
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CD-ROM Installation
FTP Installation
  dpkg
  dselect
  X11 Installation
  Networking
ppp configuration
  Compiling the Kernel
Building the Kernel
Modules   
  What Next?
  Common UNIX Commands
  Text Editors
  The Loop Device
  Multiple OS Installation
  Building Packages Files
  Linux as a Server
  Arguments
  Drop in Debian
  What is Free Software
  
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-   
The price of this package is $38.95.  Orders can be placed the following
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  Information via Phone > 707-773-0494
  
Shipping and handling charges for 2-Day service in the U.S. is $9.00
International Shipping and handling charges for U.S. Airmail is $9.00

3.  AVAILABILITY
-   
This product is currently available and shipping.  If
you have a Borders bookstore in your area, check with them.  You can also
check with your favorite Linux reseller as most are stocking this item.

4.  PERSONAL USE LICENSE
-   
Linux Press is offering an HTML version of The Debian Linux User's Guide
at www.linuxpress.com  You are free to print and use this valuable
document for your personal use.  Links are included for both the Table of
Contents and the Index.


5.  RESELLER INFORMATION
-   
Title: The Debian User's Guide - Edition 2
ISBN: 0-9659575-1-9

Linux Press
Phone Number: (707) 773-4916
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 Web Address:  http://www.linuxpress.com
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Re: needed changes to the Debian pages

1998-11-02 Thread Craig Small
Jim Pick wrote:
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(James A. Treacy) writes:
> 
> >   user suggestion: add www.linux-canada.com
> 
> I had a person write to me to complain about that company.  They had
> ordered some stuff, paid for it, and hadn't recieved it.  The company
> wouldn't respond to them.
> 
> I just thought I'd mention it ...  it doesn't seem like they are
> listed on our web pages yet.

I think they were emailled asking for more details (like what CDs they sell
etc) but I got no reply.  No reply means no web page.

That doesn;t mean they're a bad company or anything, it just makes it too
hard to work out what to put there.

  - Craig


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Re: COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Edition 2.0 (fwd)

1998-11-02 Thread Craig Small
Darren Benham wrote:
> Make sure CQ sees it, too  AIR, there is no special place set up for them
> so it's all up to you :)

It seems someone beat me to it and has put a new entry on that page.
jt, like the new format, looks like we will need a book entry as well.

  - Craig

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Some notes about CD vendors page

1998-11-06 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  Well it seems that the requests for putting information on about people
selling CDs is coming in thick and fast, which is a good sign for Debian
I think.

Some notes about the site I'd like to bring up.

1) The file vendors.wml lists all the countries, I believe they should
probably use the tagged version (ie  not Australia so they
get translated too.

2) The books should probably be put into a similar format as the CDs are.
jt, I'm using the new CD vendors list thingy you've setup and its 
excellent.  This will also make it easier to split the books off when
that section becomes too large.

3) We have a request to add in a CD vendor from The Netherlands.  What is
the right english name for this country? Holland? Netherlands? The Netherlands?
Also what is its two-letter country code, I think it is .nl

4) This is mainly for jt;  Is there any reason why only Frank CDROM uses
the new  container tag thingy?  Or is it a matter of "well
I've done one for you Craig, do the rest"?  That's ok, i just need to know
if there is a reason not to use them.  I hope your string protection is
working, because the Canadian entry used an ampersand (which I used & for
the name.

  - Craig

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year 2000 statement (fwd)

1998-11-11 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  This is becoming increasingly important to a lot of people.  I was thinking
that it may be a good idea to have some sort of page.  Now of course it is
not going to say "hey yeah Debian is(n't) Y2K compliant but what we could
do is have a series of links to other pages, like the Samba Y2K page and the
Linux one etc.

What do people think?

  - Craig

- Forwarded message from Michael Hart -
I was trying to locate a statement regarding year 2000 compliance for debian
linux (in particular 2.0.30) but couldn't find anything.
- End of forwarded message from Michael Hart -----

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Y2K statement?

1998-11-17 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I'm getting together a web page that will make a Debian Y2K Non-statement.
I think we need to say something, and my idea was that we have a small
summary table and a bunch of links going off to the site that says yes
or no.

It looks something like:
===

  [Debian Logo] Debian GNU/Linux
  Home About Debian News Distribution Support Development Search 

  Debian is a collection of program packages that come from a variety of
  sources. As a result, it is difficult to give an overall statement   
  about the Year 2000 bug. However as a service to our users, we have   
  gathered a collection of links of statements from the upstream   
  authors, listed below.   
  
  Remember that sometimes dates are manipulated by libraries so you need   
  to check them too. You can find out what packages a package depends on
  by typing dpkg -s
  
  [Note: If you know of any other links, send mail to   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

  Package  State URL
  libtiff3 NO http://www-th.phys.rug.nl/~schut/gnulist.html
  tk8.0OK http://www.scriptics.com/Y2K.html
  etc

  Comments?
  
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WML syntax file for vim

1998-12-10 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I have written a syntax file for the wml files for vim.  It means that
you too can have an angry gelato look to your wml files when you edit
them in vim.

There may be some problems with it, notice that it also includes the
html and perl syntax files too.  Have fun!

  - Craig

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" Language: WML
" Maintainer:   Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
" URL:  Not yet, something off http://www.eye-net.com.au/~csmall/
" Last change:  10 Dec 1998

" A lot of the web stuff looks like HTML soo we load that first
so $VIM/syntax/html.vim

if !exists("main_syntax")
  let main_syntax = 'wml'
endif

" Redfine htmlTag
syn clear htmlTag
syn region  htmlTagstart=+<[^/<]+ end=+>+  
contains=htmlTagN,htmlString,htmlArg,htmlValue,htmlTagError,htmlEvent,htmlCssDefinition

"
" Add in extra Arguments used by wml
syn keyword htmlTagName contained gfont imgbg imgdot lowsrc 
syn keyword htmlTagName contained navbar:define navbar:header
syn keyword htmlTagName contained navbar:footer navbar:prolog
syn keyword htmlTagName contained navbar:epilog navbar:button
syn keyword htmlTagName contained navbar:filter navbar:debug
syn keyword htmlTagName contained navbar:render
syn keyword htmlTagName contained preload rollover 
syn keyword htmlTagName contained space hspace vspace over
syn keyword htmlTagName contained ps ds pi ein big sc spaced headline
syn keyword htmlTagName contained ue subheadline zwue verbcode
syn keyword htmlTagName contained isolatin pod sdf text url verbatim
syn keyword htmlTagName contained xtable
syn keyword htmlTagName contained csmap fsview import box 
syn keyword htmlTagName contained case:upper case:lower
syn keyword htmlTagName contained grid cell info lang: logo page
syn keyword htmlTagName contained set-var restore
syn keyword htmlTagName contained array:push array:show set-var ifdef
syn keyword htmlTagName contained say m4 symbol dump enter divert
syn keyword htmlTagName contained toc 

"
" The wml arguments
syn keyword htmlArg contained adjust background base bdcolor 
bdspace bdwidth complete copyright created crop direction description 
domainname eperlfilter file hint imgbase imgstar interchar interline keephr 
keepindex keywords layout spacing padding nonetscape noscale notag notypo 
onload oversrc pos select slices style subselected txtcol_select txtcol_normal 
txtonly via

" The #use things
syn match   wmlUsed contained "\s\s*[A-Za-z:]*"
syn match   wmlUse  "^\s*#\s*use\s*" contains=wmlUsed

syn region  wmlBody contained start=+<<+ end=+>>+

syn match   wmlLocationed   contained "[A-Za-z]*"
syn region  wmlLocation start=+<<+ end=+>>+ contains=wmlLocationed

syn match   wmlDiverted contained "[A-Za-z][A-Za-z]*"
syn region  wmlDivert   start=+\.\.+ end=+>>+ contains=wmlDiverted
syn match   wmlDivertEnd"<<\.\."

syn match   wmlDefineName   contained "\s\s*[A-Za-z-]*"
syn region  htmlTagName start="\<\(define-tag\|define-region\)" end=">" 
contains=wmlDefineName

" The perl include stuff
if main_syntax != 'perl'
  " Perl script
  syn include @wmlPerlScript $VIM/syntax/perl.vim
  syn region perlScript start=++ keepend end=++ [EMAIL 
PROTECTED],wmlPerlTag
  syn match wmlPerlTag  contained "" contains=wmlPerlTagN
  "syn matchwmlPerlTag  contained "" contains=wmlPerlTagN
  syn keyword   wmlPerlTagN contained perl 

  hi link   wmlPerlTag  htmlTag
  hi link   wmlPerlTagN htmlStatement
endif

if main_syntax == "html"
  syn sync match wmlHighlight groupthere NONE ""
  syn sync match wmlHighlightSkip "^.*['\"].*$"
  syn sync minlines=10
endif

if !exists("did_wml_syntax_inits")
  let did_wml_syntax_hints = 1
  hi link wmlUseInclude
  hi link wmlUsed   String
  hi link wmlBody   Special
  hi link wmlDiverted   Label
  hi link wmlDivert Delimiter
  hi link wmlDivertEnd  Delimiter
  hi link wmlLocationed Label
  hi link wmlLocation   Delimiter
  hi link wmlDefineName String
endif

let b:current_syntax = "wml"


Fallen off the planet

1998-12-30 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  My email system fell off the face of the planet for about a week or
  so.

Was there anything important that I missed?  Anything to do with new
CD vendors?

  - Craig

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Re: Getting Info

1999-01-04 Thread Craig Small
G'day Kent,

On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:11:17 ktb wrote:
> Hi, I am really new at Linux.  I have read certain parts of about Five
> different Linux books.  I've  read some of the online documentation,
> some on my computer.  Some of it I realize is geared to a different
> distribution than mine but some of it isn't.  What I am finding is that
> I can't really go to one source to find information as to how to
> configure various things within Linux.
The best place to look first is in /usr/doc/ eg /usr/doc/procps for
documentation on the procps package.

At Debian we are also trying to make things easier for people with the 
configuring
of a Linux system.  If you have a suggestion you may want to email the Debian
developer with a short note.

>  In a way I can see how this
> makes it kind of fun, like a puzzle and you learn a lot on the way.  On
> the other hand it seems like there is a great deal of brain power lost
> out there probably  endlessly repeating  ground that has been covered.
The main problem is that there is a lot of different aspects to Linux.
You couldn't possibly fit them all into one book or other sort of document.

> Could someone who is as green as I be useful for people who want to try
> and write HOWTO's and INFO pages and Tutorials?  I mean  who better to
> practice on?   I was also thinking about writing down exactly the steps
> needed to do certain tasks on my system.  I don't know if this would
> really be worth it though?
I'm not sure, you've emailled the Debian webmaster's email list.  We look
after the Debian web site (and are also the first port of call for all
sorts of Debian questions).  

Documentation is always a problem for all programming projects.  The people
in the Debian Documentation Project would the be the best people to talk to.
You can find their web page at http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/

> Maybe the variance between distributions is just too great.
You would actually be surprised at how close the distributions are.
This is especially so for a normal users point of view.  For an administrator's
point of view there is some divergence but not all that much.

  - Craig
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Y2k Statement, let's get it going

1999-01-27 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I think it is time that the Debian Y2K statement came out from its
hiding place and was put where all can see it.

Could everyone have a look at http://master.debian.org/~csmall/y2k.html
and check it?  If it is ok, can JT or someone else who understands the
CVS archive tell me where it should go?

I know it needs some updating and also I need to make a second page that
has all the other packages, but it looks ok for primetime now I think.

  - Craig

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Year 2000 Statement uploaded

1999-01-31 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I have now uploaded the y2k files into the web server.  jt, can you
add/modify the relevant Makefiles to make it all happen?

If you see a y2k statement, I'd appreciate it if you let me know so I
can add it to the website.  I know I have to add a fair bit more to
the extra page which shows the other stuff on that GNU page that Nils
mentioned.

  - Craig
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Countries and some changes to the vendor page

1999-03-29 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  Well I thought someone has stolen my country names but it seems there
is a new template file for them.

I was wondering if there is a restriction on the country name tags in
that you cannot use them inside containers, like
  would that work ok?

Also as I have added about four or so new countries to the CD vendors
list, I'm wondering if we need another CD type tag, something like
"local language" or something generic like that, instead of
"russian language extensions"...

Finally, do people think the books should be moved to a separate page 
and standardised somewhat like the CD entries?

  - Craig

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Re: Countries and some changes to the vendor page

1999-03-30 Thread Craig Small
Michael Sobolev wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 12:03:21PM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> > I was wondering if there is a restriction on the country name tags in
> > that you cannot use them inside containers, like
> >   would that work ok?
> Should it not be
> <Australia>

No  is a tag.  We use a thing called wml slices; it means
that I see (in English) "Australia" there but our German speaking
friends see "Australien".  My concern was wether or not these special 
tags work in generic HTML containers, Jay says they do and he is our
WML guru so it must be right :-)

  - Craig

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Debian book page

1999-03-31 Thread Craig Small
G'day Everyone,
  I have started building a new web page which will split off the books
that appear in the Debian CD vendors page into a page by themselves.
I think this is a better idea as we are getting more and more entries
added to the CD page.

Can you all have a look at http://master.debian.org/~csmall/books.html
and make comments?  I'm wondering about things like what happens about
books that are available at multiple stores (one or many entries)
and also should we include a language field?

  - Craig

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Re: intent to translate social contract into chinese

1999-04-14 Thread Craig Small
zhaoway wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> i'm a native chinese speaker.
> i'm planning to translate social contract of debian project
> into chinese, simplified, charset gb2312 =]
> 
> if someone are/will be working on this, please make me know
> 
> i also have interests in working on translation into chinese
> for most of those other debian web articles.
G'day Zhaoway,
  If you would like to join the Chinese translation effort then have
a read of http://www.debian.org/devel/HOWTO_translate which is
instructions about that.  The contact for Chinese translation is
Anthony Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> so you probably want to 
talk to him too.

There is also a chinese email list, you can find info about that at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe

  - Craig
  1/Xth Debian webmaster

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Re: Translating Pics/

1999-04-26 Thread Craig Small
Anthony Fok wrote:
> Me too.  :-)  I wonder if anyone would like to write a Gimp script-fu
> thingy to do that?  :-)

I can write script-fu, what is it you want it to do?  Using script-fu
for web pages is definitely The Thing to do, especially for things
like menus.  It may also help with this png vs gif debate.

  - Craig

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Re: separating data from text in the .wml files

1999-04-26 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy wrote:
> can get started on this. To see an example of this in action take a
> look at english/distrib/vendors.*.

You sure you committed the changes?

scooter$ cvs update
cvs server: Updating .
scooter$ ls
CVSbooks.def~  cdinfo.wml   index.wml~vendors.CD.def   vendors.wml
Makefile   books.wml   ftplist.wml  packages.wml  vendors.CD.def~  vendors.wml~
books.def  books.wml~  index.wmlvendors.CDvendors.CD~ 

  - Craig

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Re: Translating Pics/

1999-04-27 Thread Craig Small
Anthony Fok wrote:
> I don't know enough about Lisp and Script-fu to do such a thing, but if
> you have time, and if other people are interested, sure!  :-)

OK, I'll try to get something going.  Anyone know what font and font
size those buttons are? The colours etc?

  - Craig


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Autogenerating Pics

1999-04-28 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I now have some scripts that will auto-generate those buttons you
see along the top of the Debian web page.  I have gimp-perl to do this
so I'm not sure if we can set it up so that it automagically
generates them if something changes and if the host will allow
that to happen.

Jay, is there somewhere in the CVS you want to put these?

  - Craig

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Re: Need more new tags for Y2K pages?

1999-05-14 Thread Craig Small
Anthony Wong wrote:
> I think it is necessary to define tags for the words 'Package', 'Version',
> 'Status' and 'URL' in english/y2k/*.data so we can have these words in
> our own languages. Any opinions?

It was something I was always going to do but have been busy
(my wife had a son on 4 May).  It seems that someone has done this work
for me now, this is good; I'll use these new tags.

  - Craig


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Re: new look for website?

1999-06-08 Thread Craig Small
Darren O. Benham said:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 10:25:15PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Well the logo results are in and Swirl has won. So... 
> > 
> > Is the debian website going to get a new look to go with the new logo? The
> > old look is based on the colors of the old logo.
> > 
> 
> Nobody on the webmaster team plans much more than adusting colors and
> putting the new logo up where indicated... but you know the mantra.. code
> speaks louder than... (in this case, suggestions..)

This reminds me, does someone what that gimp script I built up for doing
the menubar buttons?  Do we want to change the buttons?



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Gimp perl scripts for Debian buttons

1999-06-11 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  Here are the scripts that I used to make some buttons.  I'd like people to
test them before we put them onto the web pages.  As requested they also
have transparent backgrounds.

  - Craig

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#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use Gimp qw( :auto ); 
use Gimp::Fu; 
   
sub debian_button {
my ($words, $fontcolor, $bgcolor) = @_;
my ($image,$layer,$text,$width);
my $height = 18;

gimp_palette_set_foreground($fontcolor);
gimp_palette_set_background($bgcolor);


$image = gimp_image_new(80, $height, RGB);
$layer = gimp_layer_new($image, 80, $height, RGBA_IMAGE, "Button", 100, 
NORMAL_MODE);
$text = gimp_text($image, $layer, 9, 3, $words, 0, 0, "15", PIXELS, 
"*", "Lucida", "bold", "r", "*", "*");


$width = gimp_drawable_width($text);

# Resize everything
gimp_image_resize($image, ($width + $height), $height, 0, 0);
gimp_layer_resize($layer, ($width + $height), $height, 0, 0);

gimp_image_add_layer($image, $layer, 0);


gimp_selection_all($image);
gimp_edit_clear($image, $layer);

gimp_rect_select($image, 9, 0, $width, $height, SELECTION_REPLACE, 0, 
0);
gimp_ellipse_select($image, (9-($height/2)), 0, $height, $height, 
SELECTION_ADD, 0, 0, 0);
gimp_ellipse_select($image, ((9+$width) - ($height/2)), 0, $height, 
$height, SELECTION_ADD, 0,0,0);
gimp_bucket_fill($image, $layer, BG_BUCKET_FILL, NORMAL_MODE, 100, 0, 
0, 5, 5);
gimp_selection_none($image);

gimp_floating_sel_anchor($text);

gimp_convert_indexed_palette($image, 0, 0, 8, "");

return $image;
}
 
   
register 
  "debian_button", # fill in name 
  "Create Debian Toolbar button",  # a small description 
  "A tutorial script",   # a help text 
  "Craig Small",# Your name 
  "(c) SPI Inc",# Your copyright 
  "1998-05-18",  # Date 
  "/Xtns/Perl-Fu/Debian/Toolbar",   # menu path 
  "*",   # Image types 
  [ 
   [PF_STRING,   "words", "words to put in button", "Home"], 
   [PF_COLOR, "fontcolor", "Font color", [255,255,255]] ,
   [PF_COLOR, "bgcolor", "Background color", [0,0,132]] 
  ], 
  \&debian_button; 
   
  exit main()
#!/bin/sh

# This script makes the Debian buttons, it is often a good idea
# to have gimp perl up and running so it is a lot faster.
#
# Uncomment this line to run the server
#
# gimp --no-interface --no-data --batch '(extension-perl-server 0 0 0)' &
#
# TRANSLATORS, Edit the stuff in ""s
HOME_TEXT="Home"
ABOUT_TEXT="About Debian"
NEWS_TEXT="News"
DISTRIB_TEXT="Distribution"
SUPPORT_TEXT="Support"
DEVEL_TEXT="Development"
SEARCH_TEXT="Search"

cwd=`pwd`
# Dont' edit below this line
./debbar.pl -words "${HOME_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/home.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${ABOUT_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/about.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${NEWS_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/news.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${DISTRIB_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/distrib.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${SUPPORT_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/support.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${DEVEL_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/devel.gif
./debbar.pl -words "${SEARCH_TEXT}" -o ${cwd}/search.gif



Re: This gimp script

1999-06-23 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> I seem to have misplaced the copy I had. Could you add a copy to CVS
> in the english/Pics directory? I already have a request to use it for
> the Portuguese versions.

scooter$ cvs commit -m 'New icon generating files in Pics' debbar.pl 
makebuttons.sh 

  Done

The translators will want to edit makebuttons.sh and change the *_TEXT lines.

  - Craig

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Re: Debian WWW CVS: swedish

1999-06-25 Thread Craig Small
peter karlsson said:
> > Added files:
> > swedish/Pics   : makebuttons.sh 

You either needed to change the sh file so it know where to look or
put debbar.pl in the same directory.

> Can anyone with access to a computer where the script works create the
> pictures as described in the script, and replace the existing ones?

Done, the new ones are in the CVS.

  - Craig

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Re: This gimp script

1999-06-25 Thread Craig Small
peter karlsson said:
> > The translators will want to edit makebuttons.sh and change the *_TEXT
> > lines.
> 
> Is it the same script that was posted to this list earlier, and that
> wouldn't work on slink?

It's not that it doesn't work with slink, but rather there are missing
packages.  I'll try to figure out exactly what is missing.

  - Craig

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Re: This gimp script

1999-06-27 Thread Craig Small
Craig Small said:
> It's not that it doesn't work with slink, but rather there are missing
> packages.  I'll try to figure out exactly what is missing.

I did some changes and figured out that you need to go to gimp 1.1 to
make all the Debian packages work with it, which meant some changes to
the script.

OK, I now don't have any special versions of software to make the icons,
the packages you need are:

gimp1.1
gimp1.1-nonfree
libgimp-perl
libgimp1.1.6
libgtk-perl

There's a some sort of wierd version dependency conflict with using
libgnome-perl so you cannot use that :(

  - Craig

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Re: Bug#41003: BTS web pages have high latency (was Re: "Texinfo has a file conflict with tetex-base!")

1999-07-08 Thread Craig Small
> On Jul 08, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Please STOP filing further bugs against texinfo or tetex-base
> because of the file overwrite issue. After the initial 5 reports,
> I think we are *perfectly* aware of the situation.

5! He's complaining about 5!

When he has double figure duplicate bugs then he can have a whinge :)

  - Craig
  Overworked procps maintainer

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When an Official CD is not

1999-07-15 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  A quick trawl around http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors finds some
CD entries like
  CD Type: Official CD + non-free + vendor additions 


To me this is a contradiction; Is it the Official CD or not?
Sooo, we need a new term for this, what is that bit called, or do we
keep it as Official CD.

I was thinking of base, but that doesn't sound right.

So what do you call a CD that is made up files from base and say non-free?
VendorRelease is not that descriptive, perhaps
VendorRelease (base + non-free + non-US)

What do people think?

  - Craig
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The Debian button code

1999-07-15 Thread Craig Small
G'day SPI,
  I thought I better let you know the copyright details for the tiny bit
of code that is used to generate the Debian website buttons.

  "Craig Small",# Your name 
  "(c) SPI Inc",# Your copyright 

I figured if I have handed the copyright over to you then you should at
least know about it.

debian-www, fyi.

  - Craig
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When an Official CD is not

1999-07-15 Thread Craig Small
Jason Gunthorpe said:
> 
> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Craig Small wrote:
> >   CD Type: Official CD + non-free + vendor additions 
> 
> Couldn't these extensions be on a seperate disc?

You're right it could be two or three separate CDs and it would be a valid
CD.

We still need a name for a non (non-free or non-US or vendor addition)
CD, perhaps..
Vendor Release (main) ?

Also, should we be more stringent about displaying i386/source/m68k types?

 - Craig

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Re: [aaaa__ __________?]

1999-07-15 Thread Craig Small
Darren O. Benham said:
> I'm sorry... I do not understand this...
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 1999 at 02:17:29AM +, lee youngnam wrote:
> > webmaster__ __?  __ .

Morse code?

  - Craig

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small logo (fwd)

1999-08-03 Thread Craig Small
Philippe HUBAUT said:
> I want to get a small logo to make like w3c validator a referer to
> debian.

We get a fair few of these, s I fired up my trusty gimp and did some
fiddling around.  The result is at
http://www.eye-net.com.au/debian-now.gif

But you see it is missing something, like a statement or a catchphrase
and I'm an engineer so what I'd come up with would be pretty awful.
Any suggestions about what text could go here?  Also a font suggestion
would be appreciated.

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Re: suggestions needed: woes of extracting /usr/doc/ files

1999-08-16 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> The lintian repository on master is currently supplying the
> usr/doc/{copyright,changelog.Debian.gz} files for the Packages
> pages. It is just not reliable enough for us(*) so I'm looking
> into extracting the files using a script.
> 
> I'm considering serving the /usr/doc files dynamically.
> This meas ripping the .deb apart (trivial) and extracting
> the /usr/doc (and /usr/share/doc) portions of data.tar.gz.
> Instead of writing them to disc, I was hoping to store
> the information directly in perl. Anyone have a suggestion
> on how to do this?
You get the data.tar.gz file, then run something in perl like:
  $copyright = `tar xfOz data.tar.gz /usr/doc/$package/copyright`;
  $changelog = `tar xfOz data.tar.gz /usr/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz`;

etc
The O means send the file to stdout.

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A list of packages? (fwd)

1999-08-17 Thread Craig Small
>From the ipv6 list

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G'day All,
  To better co-ordinate what has been done and what has to be done,
shouldn't there be an IPv6 web page on Debian somewhere?  This would
mean that people would know that someone was working on a IPv6 version 
of a program, or that the standard one works ok with IPv6 or that
someone does need to package it.

What do people think?

  - Craig

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Re: cvs curses.

1999-08-23 Thread Craig Small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> $ cvs commit
> cvs commit: Examining .
> 
> [Standard editing stuffs]
> 
> File /tmp/cvsMdFEz0 saved.

I sometimes find on some machines that cvs commit doesn't work and comes
up with some wierd and wonderful error.  I tracked the problem down to
it trying to find the editor and the editor not being there so it just
died some horrible death.  I think it was the old EDITOR=/bin/vi
problem.

Something to remember if CVS plays up on you.

  - Craig

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Re: New Debian Installation and Usage Book Released

1999-08-01 Thread Craig Small
Nils Lohner said:
> A new book about the Debian Linux distribution entitled "Debian GNU/Linux: 
> Guide to Installation and Usage" was released this month.  The authors, John 
> Goerzen and Ossama Othman, are both Debian developers and the book is being 
> released under the General Public License (GPL).

Nils,
  Do these people want this book to be put into the Debian books page?

  - Craig

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Re: [thompson@wpi.com: Show Favorites Awards--logo pickup]

1999-09-05 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> This is a worthwhile award. Should we show such images on our site for a
> short period or create a page for them?
> 
> I'd appreciate it if someone volunteered to do the work for whichever
> we decide to go with (should be quite simple).

If you are looking for a web maintainer for this "new" page then I'll 
volunteer for it.  Is it awards for the website or the distribution?

  - Craig

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Re: Idea to improve PR

1999-09-05 Thread Craig Small
Martin Schulze said:
> I wonder if it would make sense to add a page on the webserver
> listing people and packages where Debian maintainers have become
> upstream maintainers or were upstream by nature.  This would at
> least show that we're not only working on our distribution.
> 
> I don't know how many packages are affected but I'd guess they're
> about two dozen at least.

I maintain the upstream versions of:

 libax25
 ax25-tools
 ax25-apps
 gxsnmp
 dh-make (debian only package)

There is a few gnome programs I work on too but I don't think they are
in the distribution.

  - Craig

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Re: A list of packages? (fwd)

1999-09-05 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> I have no objection to an ipv6 page being added. The only thing
> I'll mention is that not all developer coordination needs to be
> done through the main web site. Anyone can use
> www.debian.org:~/public_html for developer related information.
> 
Which I did, you will find it at http://www.debian.org/~csmall/ipv6/
I don't know who looks after the devel page but they could add that to
the Internal projects page.

  - Craig

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Re: [thompson@wpi.com: Show Favorites Awards--logo pickup]

1999-09-07 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> We probably don't get enough awards to warrant 2 pages so put them both
> together..

OK then so we have a new web page.  Where should it go? what links are
needed and does anyone have suggests for formatting (eg we should make
it a bit like www.blah.com).

  - Craig

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Awards page

1999-09-08 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 09:16:06AM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> > James A. Treacy said:
> > > This is a worthwhile award. Should we show such images on our site for a
> > > short period or create a page for them?
> > > 
> > > I'd appreciate it if someone volunteered to do the work for whichever
> > > we decide to go with (should be quite simple).
> > 
> > If you are looking for a web maintainer for this "new" page then I'll 
> > volunteer for it.  Is it awards for the website or the distribution?
> > 
> We probably don't get enough awards to warrant 2 pages so put them both
> together..

Put into the CVS the files, under misc.

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Re: new developer's corner

1999-09-15 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> Just wanted to say that I like it. Good job.

It missed the IPv6 page link, which I am about to put back in.

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Re: [carlie@ssc.com: Readers Choice, Linux Journal]

1999-09-22 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
> > Is one of these "click on here to vote for me" links something we really 
> > want
> > to do?
> > 
> Since Debian is full of intelligent, objective people (which is part
> of what makes us better than everyone else :) we should have no
> problem including a link to the voting, but not to a link that
> directly causes a vote for us.

I think this is a nice idea, perhaps an email to debian-devel or
debian-user too :)  Anyhow, where should this link go?

I can put it in the awards area if you like.  Also some people had some
comments about the awards page, if you do please email them to me.  I
think the layout needs refinement.

  - Craig

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Re: no link to the y2k page?

1999-10-16 Thread Craig Small
Ugh, I have no idea why this got sent to this email address, anyway..


Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> About the list: dialog doesn't handle dates, so it's safe. Same for
> base-passwd, base-files, hostname, dpkg and e2fsprogs. (the only dates dealt
> with are time_t's, not ASCII stuff).
I'll change that.

> Should we send a note to all maintainer to ask them to check if their
> packages are y2k-safe? If we get info for all packages we will have
> to reorganize the list as well..
I sent an email... three months ago, got some great responses from
about, say, 5 maintainers.

> Also, there appear to be two types of OK.. what is the difference?
You mean "OK" and "OK?"  Hmm, I used to have a description, it is the
same as GNU's anyway.

  - Craig

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Re: no link to the y2k page?

1999-10-16 Thread Craig Small
Raul Miller said:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:11:34AM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > Anyone care to spend a little time looking into some reorganization?
> > We need to make sure that information is organized so that it is
> > easy to find.
> 
> I've been playing around with it a bit -- not sure I'm going to come
> up with anything particularly notable, but I noticed that there's
> bogus  tags on the page.  At least, I think these are bogus..
> is there some html standard that talks about  tags?

Are we talking about the same page?

scooter$ pwd
/home/csmall/webwml/english/y2k
scooter$ grep option *
grep: CVS: Is a directory
extra.wml:the extra and optional packages that make up the entire Debian 
distribution
index.wml:Go to the list of optional and extra packages.
scooter$ 

And sucking the source html from the web site.
scooter$ lynx -source http://www.debian.org/y2k/index.html | grep -i option
Go to the list of optional and extra packages.
scooter$ lynx -source http://www.debian.org/y2k/extra.html | grep -i option
the extra and optional packages that make up the entire Debian distribution
scooter$ 

You got me beat where these option tags are.

 - Craig

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Re: Translation of vendors, books and pre-installed in distrib/

1999-10-16 Thread Craig Small
peter karlsson said:
> All these pages has a non-translateable string for the URL, saying "URL:".
> Although this is an international abbreviation, in Swedish it is recommended
> not to use it, but instead to write out what it means. However, in the
> currect format, I am unable to translate it, and I can't figure out how to
> do it either, because the URL define-tag is a small Perl script...
> 
> I would appreciate if the pages mentioned (their .def files) would be
> modified so that translation is possible.
I've done the books and CD vendors .def files in a way now that should
be suitable to you.  I'd like some other to just check what I have done
as it was a little fiddly.

A note to the other translators, there is now a space for you to
write "URL" in any way you like, just another slice really.

  - Craig

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New buttons

1999-10-21 Thread Craig Small
G'day All,
  I've uploaded a new debbar.pl into the CVS tree that works with the
new versions of Gimp.  Unfortunately, I could not use the libgimp-perl
Debian package (or even build it) so I had to make it myself.

I also created Polish, Turkish and Esperanto buttons, commited into the
CVS in the right places.  The Polish ones, due to the character set,
are probably wrong.

 - Craig

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Re: Horrid question

1999-11-13 Thread Craig Small
Vincent Renardias said:
> 
> On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Craig Small wrote:
> > I still have no idea what you lot are talking about.  What version of
> > what package is not y2k compliant?
> 
> that was about util-linux.
> versions <= 2.7 are not compliant.
> versions >= 2.9 are supposed to be.
> thus Debian 2.1 and 2.2 should be okay. Debian 2.0 is not.

And now the y2k page has been changed to reflect that.

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Re: Polish WWW

1999-11-13 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> Here is the original message from Craig Small:
> > G'day All,
> >   I've uploaded a new debbar.pl into the CVS tree that works with the
> > new versions of Gimp.  Unfortunately, I could not use the libgimp-perl
> > Debian package (or even build it) so I had to make it myself.
> >  
> > I also created Polish, Turkish and Esperanto buttons, commited into the
> > CVS in the right places.  The Polish ones, due to the character set,
> > are probably wrong.
> >  
> >  - Craig
> 
> If there is any need to continue this discussion, please send followups
> to debian-www.

So I'm continuing it... OK, You will find the perl script that does the
magic in the webwml/english/Pics directory, it is called debbar.pl
there is also a shell script makebuttons.sh which just makes all
the buttons. This is of course available in the CVS.

There is/was a problem with libgimp-perl deb, it was totally broken; I
couldn't even build the package, so I just used the plain ordinary
upstream version.  You will also need gimp 1.1 (You can use the deb
for that).

Before complaining the script segfaults or dies in some strange way
make *sure* that any other perl-based plug-in works (such as seth-spin)
and gimp can see the font you are asking for.

Hope this helps those who are not wierd-font-challenged like me.

  - Craig

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prob with y2k page

1999-11-16 Thread Craig Small
There is a problem with the y2k page, I'm aware of it and have fixed it.

  - Craig

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This "hey wassup webmaster" fool

1999-11-17 Thread Craig Small
I have some contact with mpx (the ISP this spammer uses), I'll see if I
can ensure we don't get this sort of crap any more.

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Re: slink elm not Y2K?

1999-11-18 Thread Craig Small
Vincent Renardias said:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Stephen Turner wrote:
> > Also, elm should be added to the Debian Y2K page http://www.debian.org/y2k/
> 
> Webmaster:
> 
> Versions up to and including 2.4pl25ME+59 are known to have y2k
> problems.
> >From elm's changelog, 7 y2k pbms have been fixed between 2.4pl25ME+48 and
> 2.4pl25ME+66.
> I have no info on the y2k status (compliant or not) of the current
> release.

I have made the following changes to the Y2K pages:
elm-me+ <=2.4pl25ME+52-1 BAD http://www.ozone.fmi.fi/KEH/elm-2.4ME+.README
elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+56-1 OK? http://www.ozone.fmi.fi/KEH/elm-2.4ME+.README

  - Craig

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Re: slink elm not Y2K?

1999-11-29 Thread Craig Small
Vincent Renardias said:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Craig Small wrote:
> > I have made the following changes to the Y2K pages:
> > elm-me+ <=2.4pl25ME+52-1 BAD http://www.ozone.fmi.fi/KEH/elm-2.4ME+.README
> > elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+56-1 OK? http://www.ozone.fmi.fi/KEH/elm-2.4ME+.README
> 
> 2.4pl25ME+65-1 OK? (65, not 56... ;)
I changed the last one to >= so it is "OK?"

  - Craig

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Re: slink elm not Y2K?

1999-11-30 Thread Craig Small
Vincent Renardias said:
> it currently reads:
> 
> elm-me+   >=2.4pl25ME+56-1OK? 
> 
> while it should read
> 
> elm-me+ >=2.4pl25ME+65-1OK?
> 
Why? I couldn't find any Y2K fixes in the changelog between these
versions.  Have I missed something?

> 
> I just saw another problem; the table says:
> 
> emacs20   20.2OK? 
> 
> while there *is* a y2k bug in emacs20 20.3-10. (see #43249)
Hmm, you're right, even though the GNU web page says it is ok.
I will adjust the entry and put the URL as the bug report.

  - Craig

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Re: death of the gif format

1999-12-07 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> Does anyone have any experience with a popular site that has switched to
> png?
> 
> Who is willing to take on the conversion? Also, are any of you willing to
> be joined to webmaster to answer the mail we'll get as a result of switching?

I changed my own personal site http://www.eye-net.com.au/ over to pngs
(I'd hardly call it a popular one though) and found that you can have
all sorts of wierd problems with them.

I can certainly arrange for the debbar.pl file to use pngs though I
couldn't correctly get the alpha channel happening for me in gimp, which
means transparency didn't work too well.

At least I got the libgimp-perl deb working again.

  - Craig

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Re: debbar.pl

1999-12-10 Thread Craig Small
Marcin Owsiany said:
> I managed to produce a decent-looking Polish buttons, but after some time
> (during which the web site was updated and i dist-upgraded) i noticed that
> the buttons are slightly too wide.
> 
> Unfortunately debbar.pl refuses to work for me after upgrade:

It's a problem with libgimp-perlk (which I now maintain).  There is some
strange dependency on libgimp-perl and guimp1.1, but I am not sure what
it is.

I did notice that when I last upgraded gimp 1.1 that it also upgraded
the libgimp library; this is probably significant.

Looks to me that they changed the way they specify layers now and there
is a change of the function; sigh.

> Subroutine gimp_ellipse_select redefined at
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Gimp.pm line 506.
> debbar.pl: function/macro "indexed" not found in Gimp::Layer at
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Gimp/Fu.pm line 851 (DIE)
If you want to, as root edit that file and change line 851 to say
$layer->is_indexed instead of $layer->indexed

> So could anyone please generate Polish buttons (using makebuttons.sh and
> debbar.pl found in polish/Pics) and mail them to me?
> Alternatively anyone could tell me how to make the script work?
> 
> this is result of dpkg -l '*gimp*'
> 
> ii  gimp1.1 1.1.13-1   Developers' release of the GNU Image 
> Manipul
> ii  gimp1.1-nonfree 1.1.13-1   GIF and TIFF support for the GNU Image 
> Manip
Ah yes, this is where I had problems too, 1.1.10 worked ok

I should put a bug against libgimp-perl too but it is 1am and i am
tired.

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Re: gimp jpeg plug-in

1999-12-12 Thread Craig Small
Aurelian Melinte said:
> I am currently installing gimp 1.0.4 on a sparc sun 2.5.1 and it complains 
> about not finding the jpeg libaries. I have glob 1.2.4 and gtk 1.2.5 
> already on the system.
> 
> Where can I get the jpeg stuff?
I'm a little confused what this has to do with debian-www email list
(which we discuss the maintenance of the website) but anyway:

Debian usually handles the libraries correctly, strange it didn't.
On an i386 system, the libraries are found in libjpeg62 package, so for
a Sun it would be something of a similar name.

You probably want to follow this discussion up on debian-sparc, we just
look after the websites here.

  - Craig

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Re: the Y2K page

1999-12-15 Thread Craig Small
Wichert Akkerman said:
> I think we need to revamp the Y2K page; the list that is currently has
> is IMHO almost useless; I suggest replacing it with the list of Y2k
> updates that have been included in 2.1r4 and a link to the GNU Y2K page.

It hasn't been useless because it has stopped the (then) growing emails
to webmaster saying "is such and such package y2k?".  I believe when
we started the page the aim was
1) To stop those annoying email messages by giving a central place to
check status of the packages.
2) To have a y2k statement from Debian.

The big problem is people not sending in updates about their packages, 
I asked developers to send in the status of packages they maintain and
got about 5 replies. I think we have 300 developers so that's an
outstanding response.

There already is a link to the GNU page, a link to the 2.1r4 updates 
would be useful for some but totally useless for anyone using potato.

Admittedly we do 1 much better than 2.

I had a look at RedHat's site to see what they did, it is at
http:/www.redhat.com/legal/y2k_statement.html and all looks nice and
warm and fuzzy, great huh?

Well, great if you run what they consider core stuff only. (I think
they spelt inetd wrong too). We cover a lot more than that.

  - Craig

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Re: Another vendor site (linuxmall.com.br)

1999-12-23 Thread Craig Small
Linux Mall (SP) said:
> Hi, this is a link to another Debian Vendor in Brazil to put in the vendors
> site:
> 
> www.linuxmall.com.br

Can you provide the same information that other vendors provide?  Have a
look at http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors

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Y2K Doomsday Idiots

2000-01-02 Thread Craig Small
So has anyone replied to those "Y2K end of the world doomsday, take your
canned water and gun head for the hills" morons that were so busy the
last few weeks?

I did, I asked them if they felt like the total morans that they
obviously are. Obviously from their point of view it is the end of
the world as all the mail bounces...

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Re: Y2k :-)

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 08:36:08AM +0100, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > I just thought this should be changed..
> > "With the year 2000 fast approaching "
> > 
> Craig, could you update (or simply replace) the y2k page with information
> on the packages that had y2k problems? The DWN has a good list of packages
> that suffered y2k problems. Note that wml is not on the list. It was fixed
> long ago in potato, but the slink version has some problems.
I've just added in the ones that had problems.

> After that, the section on the main page should be changed to the following:
Done that now too.

   - Craig

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Re: CD vendors

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>   I'm about to purchase Debian on CD here in Spain. I have sent an email
>   to the 5 spanish vendors listed and I have received about 3 unknown
>   address errors, nobody has answered. Now, I'm browsing through their
>   web sites and it seems that only "Ciberdroide" and "Agora" exist. I'm
>   telling this just in case you are going to update this list.

I will investigate, sometimes you can have temporary problems.

  - Craig

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Re: broken distributor

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Jonas Ek said:
> The Belgian site doese'nt exist!
> 
> Belgien
> Distribut_r: BeNeLinux
> Webbadress: http://users.skynet.be/benelinux

So it seems, strange.  I think they may of moved website and not
told me.  I will have a look around.

  - Craig

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Debian CD Vendor Page - broken link

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
G'day,
  I am the Debian webmaster that looks after the CD vendor's page found
at http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors

It seems the website you have given me no longer has your information.
Can you tell me if you still sell Debian CDs and what the address of
your new site is.

  - Craig

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Re: CD Verkaeufer

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Craig Small said:
> > www.rrbs.de is unreachable, forbidden, maybe now another URL
> I'll look into this one too.  Thanks for letting us know about these.

Still not there, removing entry.


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Re: CD Verkaeufer

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Craig Small said:
> Maximilian Eberl said:
> I got a reply from the nettstore people.
> NS> We just didn't start selling Debian but will do so within the next 7
> NS> days.
> NS> So, please don't remove us since we will be offering Debian in very near
> NS> future! :-)
> I guess it is a case of watch that space.  I'll check again in a week
> or so.
nettstore now sells Debian.

> > www.rrbs.de is unreachable, forbidden, maybe now another URL
> I'll look into this one too.  Thanks for letting us know about these.
Removed.

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Re: CD vendors

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>   I'm about to purchase Debian on CD here in Spain. I have sent an email
>   to the 5 spanish vendors listed and I have received about 3 unknown
>   address errors, nobody has answered. Now, I'm browsing through their
>   web sites and it seems that only "Ciberdroide" and "Agora" exist. I'm
>   telling this just in case you are going to update this list.

I can only see 4 vendors in Spain.
cworldtele has a web site and sells Debian.  interec has a website but I
couldn't see them mention Debian.

Can you tell me which ones the mail bounced for?

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Re: Vendor list

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Alexander Kitzberger said:
> I want to distribute Debian/GNU Linux. For that reason, I would be glad if you
> could set the following data on the vendor list:

I have done it.

> And please tell me how it works,  to give a contibution to the Debian project.
I'm not sure, I'll pass this on to our SPI people.

  - Craig

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