Re: Q: List Policy
On Fri,21.Nov.08, 17:59:30, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/21/08 14:23, Don Armstrong wrote: > [snip] >> >> Because people who are subscribed to the list don't require extra >> copies of mails. [And since anyone who wants a copy can request it >> using MFT: or manually, it's perfectly fine.] > > MFT? Mail-Followup-To: (or did you mean something else with your question?) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Partition for latest versions of graphic programs.
On Fri,21.Nov.08, 16:40:17, John Culleton wrote: > 1. I want to set up a Debian partition so that I can use the very > latest versions of programs such as Gimp, Inkscape etc. Do I need > Unstable or Sid? > > 2. I want to use some sort of netinstall. Where would I find the > netinstall image for the answer to question 1? It might be a bit trickier, but you can install sid directly if you use the business-card image and do an expert install. This will allow to choose "unstable". Careful, the business-card image won't work unless your internet connection can be configured by the installer. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: playing multimedia over my local network - how?
On Fri,21.Nov.08, 17:04:23, H.S. wrote: > Mostly I connect between different machine via SSH. So I can open an X > display. That gives the video but no sound on my local machine. So you want the sound on the local machine? > I have also samba setup on one machine which at present mounts a disk > which has songs and photos on it. However, I haven't yet found a way to > play the songs over samba. Also, by favorite photo browser is gqview but > it also doesn't appear to understand samba. I don't get it, if you mount a samba share all applications on the local machine (sound player, gqview) will use it just like a local storage. Or am I missing something? Maybe you should tell us exactly what machines you have and where you want the storage, respectively the output to be. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A lot of help needed with the automake process
Raven wrote: Hi all. I recently coded a small GNOME applet and before sharing it with a few friends I wanted to make it "noob-proof" :) Basically I wanted to create the usual "configure" and Makefile scripts so that I can give my buddies the 3 simple commands to install the applet. After reading several (at least 5) different online tutorials, I'm afraid I can't figure out how to create those scripts. This is the current situation: * There is only one source file (myapplet.c) in /src * I have two folders, /pixmaps e /conf, that contain some graphics for the applet and the initial configuration file * In the folder root I also have the .server file needed by Bonobo and this is what I want to accomplish: * The compiled binary has to end up in /usr/lib/gnome-applets/ * The graphics (icons and a logo) have to be copied in /usr/share/pixmaps/myapplet * The configuration file has to be copied in ~/.myapplet/myapplet.conf * The .server file has to be copied in in /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/ The configure script should also check for dependencies such as gtk+, glibc and libxml2. How are you compiling the applet at your end? Perhaps it would be simpler to create a small build script that installs the build dependencies, compiles and installs your applet. Alternatively, have you considered simply sending them the binary with a small install script? You can add an apt-get line to the script to install the dependencies. I know it's quite the task but is there somebody willing to walk me through the whole process to create the install scripts? I now feel I am the real "noob" :( Thank you, -R -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of help needed with the automake process
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 14:42 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > Raven wrote: > > Hi all. > > I recently coded a small GNOME applet and before sharing it with a few > > friends I wanted to make it "noob-proof" :) > > > > Basically I wanted to create the usual "configure" and Makefile scripts so > > that I can give my buddies the 3 simple commands to install the applet. > > After reading several (at least 5) different online tutorials, I'm afraid > > I can't figure out how to create those scripts. > > This is the current situation: > > > > * There is only one source file (myapplet.c) in /src > > * I have two folders, /pixmaps e /conf, that contain some graphics for the > > applet and the initial configuration file > > * In the folder root I also have the .server file needed by Bonobo > > > > and this is what I want to accomplish: > > > > * The compiled binary has to end up in /usr/lib/gnome-applets/ > > * The graphics (icons and a logo) have to be copied in > > /usr/share/pixmaps/myapplet > > * The configuration file has to be copied in ~/.myapplet/myapplet.conf * > > The .server file has to be copied in in /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/ > > > > The configure script should also check for dependencies such as gtk+, > > glibc and libxml2. > > How are you compiling the applet at your end? Perhaps it would be > simpler to create a small build script that installs the build > dependencies, compiles and installs your applet. I am now compiling the hard way via the command line with a bunch of "pkg-config" statements in the gcc command. I guess I could write up a build.sh, but I would have liked to do it in a more "standard" way. As I said, I read several tutorials but none of them dealt with more than the basics. If you (or anyone else) knows about something else that could help me, I'd be happy to read it. > Alternatively, have you considered simply sending them the binary with a > small install script? You can add an apt-get line to the script to > install the dependencies. Mhmm..that's also an interesting idea. Can you point me towards any interesting online resource? -R -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of help needed with the automake process
Raven wrote: > Hi all. > I recently coded a small GNOME applet and before sharing it with a few > friends I wanted to make it "noob-proof" :) > > Basically I wanted to create the usual "configure" and Makefile scripts so > that I can give my buddies the 3 simple commands to install the applet. > After reading several (at least 5) different online tutorials, I'm afraid > I can't figure out how to create those scripts. > This is the current situation: > > * There is only one source file (myapplet.c) in /src > * I have two folders, /pixmaps e /conf, that contain some graphics for the > applet and the initial configuration file > * In the folder root I also have the .server file needed by Bonobo > > and this is what I want to accomplish: > > * The compiled binary has to end up in /usr/lib/gnome-applets/ > * The graphics (icons and a logo) have to be copied in > /usr/share/pixmaps/myapplet > * The configuration file has to be copied in ~/.myapplet/myapplet.conf * > The .server file has to be copied in in /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/ > > The configure script should also check for dependencies such as gtk+, > glibc and libxml2. > > I know it's quite the task but is there somebody willing to walk me > through the whole process to create the install scripts? > I now feel I am the real "noob" :( Automake and autoconf can be very overwhelming. I think the best way to learn is to look at how other use it. So, have you looked at the autoconf/automake setup used in the Gnome project itself? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus Haskell is an even 'redder' pill than Lisp or Scheme. -- PaulPotts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Q: List Policy
Chris Bannister wrote: > Quite right, but why discourage CCing on an open list? I can see the > point in not CCing on a closed list. For the same reasons. Whether the list is open or closed is irrelevant to the harm that CCing people unbidden causes. A list being open or closed is also irrelevant to the fact that it is incumbent on the sender to ensure they receive replies, capable of finding replies or requesting copies if they cannot fulfill the previous two trivial tasks. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: problems with module-assistant and gspca
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 20:32:15 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 19:40:14 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 20:48:53 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello, I am running etch and I have a pleomax pwc-2100 webcam by Pixart Imaging Inc. The pwc-2100 doesn't run out the box. After googling a bit, I found that it needs the gspca module. [...] but still, skype and ekiga are not able to detect any webcam present... [...] I just installed camorama, and when I try to run it, the message "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)" appears... this goes in line with your suggestion. Now the outputs you ask for are the following (sorry for the initial garbage, but I posted it to be sure gspca is loaded) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe -v gspca Password: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/extra/gspca/gspca.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod |grep gspca gspca 600336 0 videodev 21120 1 gspca usbcore 112644 6 gspca,usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /dev/video* ls: /dev/video*: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo grep -E 'gspca|videodev|v4l' /var/log/syslog Password: Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel: /tmp/buildd/linux-modules-extra-2.6-2.6.18/debian/build/build_i386_none_686_gspca/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 2.6.18 registered So, the device /dev/video0 is not there... Hi Florian, sorry for the delay in reply. This might mean that this camera is not recognized/supported, at least with the Etch's version of gspca. The best thing to look for are the USB device and vendor IDs, I will do this! what do you get when you run "lsusb" with the camera plugged in? I get the following: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 093a:2600 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Also, it might help to see all the syslog entries related to the camera. You can run tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog then plug in the camera and wait at least 30 seconds. Post all the messages that appear. (CTRL-C to exit) Here they are: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog Nov 22 09:56:05 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_ hcd and address 7 Nov 22 09:56:05 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Nov 22 09:56:05 localhost NetworkManager: info>^I[1227354965.740998] nm_h al_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/u sb_device_93a_2600_noserial'). Nov 22 09:56:05 localhost NetworkManager: info>^I[1227354965.798338] nm_h al_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/u sb_device_93a_2600_noserial_if0'). Nov 22 09:56:05 localhost NetworkManager: info>^I[1227354965.813705] nm_h al_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/u sb_device_93a_2600_noserial_usbraw'). Again, thank you very much for your help! Regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of help needed with the automake process
Raven wrote: On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 14:42 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: How are you compiling the applet at your end? Perhaps it would be simpler to create a small build script that installs the build dependencies, compiles and installs your applet. I am now compiling the hard way via the command line with a bunch of "pkg-config" statements in the gcc command. I guess I could write up a build.sh, but I would have liked to do it in a more "standard" way. As I said, I read several tutorials but none of them dealt with more than the basics. If you (or anyone else) knows about something else that could help me, I'd be happy to read it. Have you found this online book on autotools? It is one of the best references online. http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook.html Also, I think the gtk/gtkmm tutorial also describes the use of autotools. Alternatively, have you considered simply sending them the binary with a small install script? You can add an apt-get line to the script to install the dependencies. Mhmm..that's also an interesting idea. Can you point me towards any interesting online resource? -R -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
64-bit Flash Player
Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player for Linux on Debian? -- http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ I tried installing it on my x86_64 Etch machine but Iceweasel doesn't seem to detect it. I followed the instructions gives on the player's download page (all it involved was copying libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla). Thanks, Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, Steve Lamb wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Quite right, but why discourage CCing on an open list? I can see the > > point in not CCing on a closed list. > > For the same reasons. Whether the list is open or closed is irrelevant to > the harm that CCing people unbidden causes. A list being open or closed is > also irrelevant to the fact that it is incumbent on the sender to ensure they > receive replies, capable of finding replies or requesting copies if they > cannot fulfill the previous two trivial tasks. Actually, to be very blunt: CCing people is absolutely the only way to deal with massive ammounts of email and very-high-traffic lists when you *care* about not ignoring email that you should have read. If you want an example of a CC policy radically different from Debian's, take a look at the development mailinglists for the Linux kernel and all related projects. There, the policy is that you are to *always* CC everyone that should (or might even remotely need to) get an email, in addition to sending it to the lists. Otherwise, the chances that such an email will be lost in the ocean of stuff, or never reach the right people. IMO the truth behind the CC policy in Debian lists is that it is the policy not to do so for a LONG time now, and a lot of people is bothered by CCs, so they resist any such changes (note: I am NOT judging whether they're right or wrong for doing that, if one could even classify such an issue in that way). IMO, the reason many people are bothered by the CCs is that the typical DM, DD and Debian user just plain don't *care* about stuff from debian-user/-policy/-private/* bothering him all the time. He'd rather ignore it completely until he decides to read that ML folder, if ever. Which is why we *DO* CC people directly every time it is clearly their problem/fault/responsibility. We have entire systems to make sure people can ask automated tools to add them to such "cc's", even. But that certainly doesn't cover untargeted ML posts and replies to them. In the end, it boils down to the fact that most people have lame mail filtering setups that cannot sort delivery mailboxes in the right priority and do proper destination-based duplicate supression (so that you can get automated "if it is also destined to a Debian ML, file into the ML folder, and have any further duplicates supressed), and are not in any hurry to deploy one. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
octal dump
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > In my work I collect a lot of data from the serial port, spit out by > other machines. od is VERY useful when I collect data from a new > machine. Are there carriage returns? Are there other strange > characters? After those questions are answered it's much easier > to parse the data and do stuff with it. Thanks for the replies Ron, Mike and others. I guess I understand use of od now (although that du puzzle is still with me). Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Saturday 22 November 2008 04:15:42 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Actually, to be very blunt: CCing people is absolutely the only way to deal > with massive ammounts of email and very-high-traffic lists when you *care* > about not ignoring email that you should have read. That is absolute, 100% pure rubbish. This is solvable by technical means, right now, today, if email client authors would just implement a feature that has been standard for decades in forums that far outstrip the volume of mailing lists, newsgroups. The feature? Scoring. Even now if you post on a high volume mailing lists there is absolutely no excuse to miss a message that is posted to it if you're really interested. FilteronReferences or in-reply-to! Here are the relevant headers from your message: References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Since, at least in KMail, I can set any prefix in my MSGID I put a static string there then filter on an In-Reply-To that starts with that string and ends with "@dmiyu.org", highlight it, filter it into a different folder, whatever. I don't miss mail and I don't require a harmful, blanket policy that annoys many people and wastes resources. > If you want an example of a CC policy radically different from Debian's, > take a look at the development mailinglists for the Linux kernel and all > related projects. There, the policy is that you are to *always* CC > everyone that should (or might even remotely need to) get an email, in > addition to sending it to the lists. Otherwise, the chances that such an > email will be lost in the ocean of stuff, or never reach the right people. To be blunt, if those people can't figure out how to filter on In-Reply-To they have no business hacking the kernel. > IMO the truth behind the CC policy in Debian lists is that it is the policy > not to do so for a LONG time now, and a lot of people is bothered by CCs, > so they resist any such changes (note: I am NOT judging whether they're > right or wrong for doing that, if one could even classify such an issue in > that way). Sorry, but it is a sane method of doing so. Quite frankly if I put inject something into a conversation and it later turns a different direction that doesn't interest me I can simply stop reading those messages. Or, to put it another way, you can unsubscribe from a list. You can't unsubscribe from a CC list. > IMO, the reason many people are bothered by the CCs is that the > typical DM, DD and Debian user just plain don't *care* about stuff from > debian-user/-policy/-private/* bothering him all the time. He'd rather > ignore it completely until he decides to read that ML folder, if ever. I'm pretty sure you're wrong on that. > In the end, it boils down to the fact that most people have lame mail > filtering setups that cannot sort delivery mailboxes in the right priority > and do proper destination-based duplicate supression (so that you can get > automated "if it is also destined to a Debian ML, file into the ML folder, > and have any further duplicates supressed), and are not in any hurry to > deploy one. Uh-huh. If that's the case then why CC? Sorry, there is absolutely 0 cases where CCing when unrequested is appropriate. Your volume argument is complete rubbish. Forcing people to filter because of other people's inconvenient poor habits is akin to the harm done by C-R. Finally, don't think I don't get the cute idea of you CCing me this message. I am not amused, don't do it again. I have never ask for a CC from this list and never will. To CC me against the list's CoC clearly shows you're more interesting in trolling than contributing anything meaningful to the conversation. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian non-us
I'm running stable and I just noticed that non-us.debian.org is not available and "apt-get update" gives me a bunch of errors. I understand that the law has changed over here and that I may not need this any more in my sources.list. Now, is there a document that would confirm this and explain what I should do to fix this. I have a feeling I just need to remove references to non-us mirrors in /etc/sources.list and run apt-get update but I don't want to hose my debian system either. Thanks! CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > If you want an example of a CC policy radically different from Debian's, > take a look at the development mailinglists for the Linux kernel and all > related projects. There, the policy is that you are to *always* CC everyone > that should (or might even remotely need to) get an email, in addition to > sending it to the lists. Otherwise, the chances that such an email will be > lost in the ocean of stuff, or never reach the right people. I always though one subscribed to mailling lists exactly to be able to get all emails easily, and to let the list software do all the work, instead of having people use "Reply all" to create a manual pseudo-list. -- Once harm has been done, even a fool understands it. -- Homer Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian non-us
It doesn't exist anymore for new releases for quite some time now. unless you installed a very long time ago things from non-us that were deprecated since then you can safely remove it (and I double that there are such packages, certainly nothing important) On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:41:33 -0500 Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running stable and I just noticed that non-us.debian.org is not > available and "apt-get update" gives me a bunch of errors. > > I understand that the law has changed over here and that I may not need > this any more in my sources.list. > > Now, is there a document that would confirm this and explain what I > should do to fix this. > > I have a feeling I just need to remove references to non-us mirrors in > /etc/sources.list and run apt-get update but I don't want to hose my > debian system either. > > Thanks! > > CJ > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian non-us
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:53:18AM EST, Micha wrote: > It doesn't exist anymore for new releases for quite some time now. unless you > installed a very long time ago things from non-us that were deprecated since > then you can safely remove it (and I double that there are such packages, > certainly nothing important) Installed etch about 2 years ago .. and I'm pretty sure my sources.list is the one that was generated when I did the install. That's why I posted. Couldn't find a debian doc that actually confirms this. Guess I'll just have to give it a shot, then.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian non-us
Ups, again a stupid error writing you privately instead of to the list ... So here my email again to the list: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 01:59:30PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Hi > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:41:33AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > I understand that the law has changed over here and that I may not need > > this any more in my sources.list. > > > > Now, is there a document that would confirm this and explain what I > > should do to fix this. > > yes, it was in the release notes for sarge: > http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-non-us > > Since sarge, non-us is obsoleted, and packages which previously were > there, moved into regular archive. So you doesn't need non-US anymore. > > Kind regards > Salvatore Kind regards Salvatore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian non-us
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 08:00:14, Chris Jones wrote: > Installed etch about 2 years ago .. and I'm pretty sure my sources.list > is the one that was generated when I did the install. > > That's why I posted. Nope, non-us was deprecated for sarge. > Couldn't find a debian doc that actually confirms this. http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-non-us Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian non-us
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 08:15:52AM EST, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Ups, again a stupid error writing you privately instead of to the > list ... > > So here my email again to the list: > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 01:59:30PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:41:33AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > I understand that the law has changed over here and that I may not need > > > this any more in my sources.list. > > > > > > Now, is there a document that would confirm this and explain what I > > > should do to fix this. > > > > yes, it was in the release notes for sarge: > > http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-non-us Looks good to me .. Since they don't mentions anything else apart from removing those lines I guess I should be OK. In any case since the Dutch mirrors no longer exist there's nothing else I can do anyway. My guess is that they were kept alive until some time earlier this year for some backward compatibility reasons, perhaps, and that's why I was not seeing those error message. The only thing that does not fit in is that the first release of debian I used was sarge .. shortly before it became stable .. so I'm not sure why I had these non-us lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list in the first place. Ah, go figure.. Thanks! CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 05:50:25PM +0530, Girish Kulkarni wrote: > Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player > for Linux on Debian? -- Yes. Here with amd64 system. > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Do not stress yourself :-) Just install flashplugin-nonfree from non-free. It is smart enough to run 32bit binary non-free code under 64 bit system using nspluginwrapper. If you read all the complicated system set up, this package takes care those for you. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian non-us
CJ writes: > I have a feeling I just need to remove references to non-us mirrors in > /etc/sources.list and run apt-get update but I don't want to hose my > debian system either. Just remove the references to non-us. The law changed years ago. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Static IP, nat, virtual machine
Is it right to set a virtual guest Debian on NIC set as NAT and assigning static IP for it? Because I want to test OSSIM which runs on Debian as a guest host (sensor) while other guest hosts feeds data to it. What about the gateway since it's NAT we're talking about. Any specific setting for /etc/network/interfaces for NAT NIC? Forgive my newbiness but please give (if it's appropriate) an explaination for my question and what to expect. -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://gameornot.net
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 05:50:25PM +0530, Girish Kulkarni wrote: >> Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player >> for Linux on Debian? -- > > Yes. Here with amd64 system. > >> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ > > Do not stress yourself :-) > > Just install flashplugin-nonfree from non-free. > > It is smart enough to run 32bit binary non-free code under 64 bit system > using nspluginwrapper. If you read all the complicated system set up, > this package takes care those for you. > > Osamu > > Move the .so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/ if its not there make it. Remove all 32 bit from your system. Restart iceweasle about:plugins check it. Enjoy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any textual web browser handling javascript?
David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are you any the wiser? Sorry, my English is not very good. What do you mean? Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
du (was Re: octal dump)
On 11/22/08 06:14, Girish Kulkarni wrote: [snip] Thanks for the replies Ron, Mike and others. I guess I understand use of od now (although that du puzzle is still with me). From the top of the man page DESCRIPTION: "Summarize disk usage of each FILE, recursively for directories." The 2nd argument: --apparent-size print apparent sizes, rather than disk usage; although the apparent size is usually smaller, it may be larger due to holes in (`sparse') files, internal fragmenta- tion, indirect blocks, and the like What about that puzzles you? -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get - problem configuring /etc/apt/sources.list
"Vwaju" wrote: > > With a little help from my friends, I'm teaching myself networking by > building an internet server. I am running Debian Linux 3.1 I would upgrade to Debian 4 (Etch) via Internet by doing these steps: 1.) apt-get clean 2.) replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free 3.) apt-get update 4.) apt-get upgrade 5.) reboot (required because kernel gets replaced) 6.) apt-get dist-upgrade 7.) reboot (optional) Now your system is up-to-date. TIP: You should have a second terminal open and save a copy of your important config files (the upgrader will tell you which user-modified cfg files should be upgraded). But before doing the above steps consult the official release notes, for example here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html (If you want, you can even continue upgrading to Debian 5 (lenny) by replacing "etch" with "lenny" above and repeating the steps... But Debian 5 is not yet released, it is in "testing" state.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On 11/22/08 02:02, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,21.Nov.08, 17:59:30, Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/21/08 14:23, Don Armstrong wrote: [snip] Because people who are subscribed to the list don't require extra copies of mails. [And since anyone who wants a copy can request it using MFT: or manually, it's perfectly fine.] MFT? Mail-Followup-To: (or did you mean something else with your question?) Nope, Thanks. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing debian non-us from sources.list [was: debian non-us]
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 08:17:44AM EST, John Hasler wrote: > CJ writes: > > I have a feeling I just need to remove references to non-us mirrors in > > /etc/sources.list and run apt-get update but I don't want to hose my > > debian system either. > > Just remove the references to non-us. The law changed years ago. OK. I did that and thought it would be a good idea to run an # apt-get update .. so everything is in sync (?) and this is what I'm getting: apt-get update Get:1 http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release.gpg [189B] Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release Ign http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages Get:2 http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable Release.gpg [386B] Hit http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable Release Ign http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/main Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Hit http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/main Packages Hit http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/contrib Packages Hit http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/main Sources Hit http://mirror.pacific.net.au stable/contrib Sources Fetched 2B in 17s (0B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: B5D0C804ADB11277 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems I'm a unclear as to why this took about 17 seconds and fetched 2B ??? Then it's telling me I should run apt-get update to fix this? I tried an apt-key update and that gives me: apt-key update gpg: key 1DB114E0: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 4F368D5D: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key B5F5BBED: "Debian AMD64 Archive Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: key 6070D3A1: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: Total number processed: 5 gpg: unchanged: 5 /etc/apt/sources.list now has: # the main Debian packages. deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main contrib # Uncomment the deb-src line if you want 'apt-get source' # to work with most packages. deb-src http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main contrib # uncommenting the following line will enable security updates deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib Thanks! CJ #deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ stable main -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On 11/22/08 06:15, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: [snip] Actually, to be very blunt: CCing people is absolutely the only way to deal with massive ammounts of email and very-high-traffic lists when you *care* about not ignoring email that you should have read. If you want an example of a CC policy radically different from Debian's, take a look at the development mailinglists for the Linux kernel and all related projects. There, the policy is that you are to *always* CC everyone that should (or might even remotely need to) get an email, in addition to sending it to the lists. Otherwise, the chances that such an email will be lost in the ocean of stuff, or never reach the right people. [snip] In the end, it boils down to the fact that most people have lame mail filtering setups that cannot sort delivery mailboxes in the right priority and do proper destination-based duplicate supression (so that you can get automated "if it is also destined to a Debian ML, file into the ML folder, and have any further duplicates supressed), and are not in any hurry to deploy one. I thought kernel hackers were uber-geeks. How can they not implement decent mail filtering? If you use Mutt, you take upon yourself the responsibility to set up a server-side filter, and if you use a GUI, then setting up client-side filtering is trivially easy. (Of course, even if you use a GUI, if you are a geek you should implement fetchmail/getmail, an MTA, a spam filter and procmail or mailfilter and IMAP, so that you can switch MUAs as easily as you switch underwear, or even access your mail from across the LAN or even Internet. But that's a different topic...) -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On 11/22/08 07:59, John Hasler wrote: Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. All should remember that the 64-bit player is still Beta, so it will be flakier than the 32-bit player. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing debian non-us from sources.list [was: debian non-us]
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 09:31:11, Chris Jones wrote: > W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: > B5D0C804ADB11277 > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > > I'm a unclear as to why this took about 17 seconds and fetched 2B ??? > > Then it's telling me I should run apt-get update to fix this? > > I tried an apt-key update and that gives me: > > > apt-key update > gpg: key 1DB114E0: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed > gpg: key 4F368D5D: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed > gpg: key B5F5BBED: "Debian AMD64 Archive Key > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed > gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed > gpg: key 6070D3A1: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed > gpg: Total number processed: 5 > gpg: unchanged: 5 > You are missing this key: pub 1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17 uid Etch Stable Release Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please post the output of 'dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring' Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:59:29 -0600 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I > haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. I tried that one and it didn't work initially with nspluginwrapter installed. I downloaded it directly now and installed and during installation I found out that nspluginwrapter left some files behind. Now that I've removed them it works fine. Don't know if the original experimental version from multimedia.org works also (I just overwritten that version with the downloaded one). by the way, nspluginwraper tends to be a very serious cpu hogger, don't know if it's that or flash but we'll see in a bit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/22/08 07:59, John Hasler wrote: >> Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I >> haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. > > All should remember that the 64-bit player is still Beta, so it will be > flakier than the 32-bit player. > Works like a charm here. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkoG+kACgkQejxzjThnMmKYpQCcDGjJ6193bhil4vjTbn3JVyIL JC0Ani19EqV5sGi2hHsoChEiqwzCXK92 =pmJn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On 11/22/08 08:49, Daryl Styrk wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/22/08 07:59, John Hasler wrote: Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. All should remember that the 64-bit player is still Beta, so it will be flakier than the 32-bit player. Works like a charm here. That's why it's not Alpha!!! http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Actually, I take that back. It *is* officially alpha. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 07:59:29, John Hasler wrote: > Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I > haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. It needed some hacking to get installed # LANG=C dpkg --configure -a Setting up flashplayer-mozilla (2:10.0.d20.7-0.1) ... update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing flashplayer-mozilla (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: flashplayer-mozilla # ln -s /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so think:/etc# LANG=C dpkg --configure -a Setting up flashplayer-mozilla (2:10.0.d20.7-0.1) ... So it installed, but iceweasel didn't see it so I symlinked /usr/lib/libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins I only tested with one youtube video, but no problems. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Q: List Policy
Ron Johnson wrote: > (Of course, even if you use a GUI, if you are a geek you should > implement fetchmail/getmail, an MTA, a spam filter and procmail or > mailfilter and IMAP, so that you can switch MUAs as easily as you switch > underwear, or even access your mail from across the LAN or even > Internet. But that's a different topic...) Ha, whimp! I change MUAs easier than I switch underwear! :P signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Removing debian non-us from sources.list [was: debian non-us]
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:42:23AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: [..] > You are missing this key: > > pub 1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17 > uid Etch Stable Release Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Please post the output of 'dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring' before: -- ii debian-archive-keyring ..2006.11.22 # apt-get install debian-archive-keyring after: - ii debian-archive-keyring ..2007.07.31~etch1 .. and 'apt-get update' now works fine again. So, it looks like I was still using the keyring from before etch went stable (?) What's the purpose of 'apt-key update'? Thanks! CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing debian non-us from sources.list [was: debian non-us]
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 10:12:48, Chris Jones wrote: > So, it looks like I was still using the keyring from before etch went > stable (?) Yeap. Any idea why? > What's the purpose of 'apt-key update'? Hhmm, the manpage is not very verbose. Anyway, if debian-archive-keyring is up-to-date you shouldn't worry about it. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: playing multimedia over my local network - how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a setup to play movies and music and to browse photos > over my local home network (mostly Debian, one Ubuntu machine, sometimes > a Windows machine on the wireless network). How do I start doing that? > My objective is to have all multimedia on one disk connected to a > machine (USB, firewire or SATA, not fixed yet). > >>From a little search, I have seen somebody mention NFS for which I > apparently need 2.6.27 kernel (not in Testing yet, so that option is > out). The other option seems to be to stream video -- is this really > necessary in this situation? And it won't help much with photo browsing > anyway. > > Mostly I connect between different machine via SSH. So I can open an X > display. That gives the video but no sound on my local machine. > > I have also samba setup on one machine which at present mounts a disk > which has songs and photos on it. However, I haven't yet found a way to > play the songs over samba. Also, by favorite photo browser is gqview but > it also doesn't appear to understand samba. Of course yo can find ways to mount your media-containing volume on any of your home computers and then just use whatever players/viewers are available on that particular OS/machine. NFS, SSHfs, CIFS/Samba will do. Another approach would be to use a (standard) protocol to share media itself, for example via UPnP, DLNA. FUPPES (http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de) and MediaTomb (http://mediatomb.cc) are two such servers, which come into mind, but there most likely are more. MythTV perhaps too. Using such an approach will make your media available to any other UPnP/DLNA capable devices on your network, for example, media player connected to TV/audio system (MythTV, PS3, PopcornHour etc. etc.). I'm currently quite happy with MediaTomb on Linux and PS3 setup. Šarūnas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkoJacACgkQejaFVltl6E8RoQCghWovojR3epS6gyT2RnbArT1k DJ4Anjhm9UCjIhJjOkcqzuGGohA1ryr2 =+fgU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: playing multimedia over my local network - how?
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,21.Nov.08, 17:04:23, H.S. wrote: > >> Mostly I connect between different machine via SSH. So I can open an X >> display. That gives the video but no sound on my local machine. > > So you want the sound on the local machine? er, yes. The sound should be on the same machine where a video is being played. > > I don't get it, if you mount a samba share all applications on the local > machine (sound player, gqview) will use it just like a local storage. Or > am I missing something? Maybe you should tell us exactly what machines > you have and where you want the storage, respectively the output to be. I tried that. Let us say I have a machine with samba running, called M, and a shared folder on it called Videos. And I want to play a video on machine called A. I can browse the samba share on M from A using smb://M/Videos in Konqueror. If I then try to play a video (on A) this way, it appears that A is first copying the whole video data to somewhere locally (maybe in /var on A) before playing it. This doesn't seem right in the sense that A is not treating smb://M/Vidoes as a local storage. Or (more likely) I am doing some wrong with the samba setup. Related question: this method of installing a samba server on a machine and putting all multimedia files on shared directories and then accessing those shared directories from the machine one wants to play the media on, is this one of the methods to do this kind of thing? Regards. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
I am upgrading to a larger HD on my laptop. Since I will have a bit more space, I plan to copy my existing Sarge and Etch systems to the new drive and install something more current as well. I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny install at a later date without having to reinstall? Thanks! CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with module-assistant and gspca
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 20:32:15 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 19:40:14 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 20:48:53 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello, I am running etch and I have a pleomax pwc-2100 webcam by Pixart Imaging Inc. The pwc-2100 doesn't run out the box. After googling a bit, I found that it needs the gspca module. [...] but still, skype and ekiga are not able to detect any webcam present... [...] I just installed camorama, and when I try to run it, the message "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)" appears... this goes in line with your suggestion. Now the outputs you ask for are the following (sorry for the initial garbage, but I posted it to be sure gspca is loaded) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe -v gspca Password: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/extra/gspca/gspca.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod |grep gspca gspca 600336 0 videodev 21120 1 gspca usbcore 112644 6 gspca,usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /dev/video* ls: /dev/video*: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo grep -E 'gspca|videodev|v4l' /var/log/syslog Password: Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca Nov 17 20:02:40 localhost kernel: /tmp/buildd/linux-modules-extra-2.6-2.6.18/debian/build/build_i386_none_686_gspca/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 2.6.18 registered So, the device /dev/video0 is not there... This might mean that this camera is not recognized/supported, at least with the Etch's version of gspca. The best thing to look for are the USB device and vendor IDs, what do you get when you run "lsusb" with the camera plugged in? Also, it might help to see all the syslog entries related to the camera. You can run tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog then plug in the camera and wait at least 30 seconds. Post all the messages that appear. (CTRL-C to exit) (besides, is there a way to load gspca automatically, without calling modprobe each time I want to use the cam?) If the device is recognized and supported then the module should be loaded automatically with the help of the information in modules.usbmap in your kernel's module directory. If that fails then you can add the module to /etc/modules to have it loaded at startup. Hi Florian, I have just installed the latest version of gspca driver for linux from the developer site (http://mxhaard.free.fr). The cam works now, with low quality thought. The driver version of gspca in etch is an old one... The process of installing the latest version of gspca was done trough a provided script, and has nothing to do with the debian-way... Thanks again for the help! regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: playing multimedia over my local network - how?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:46:00 -0500, H.S. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I tried that. Let us say I have a machine with samba running, called M, > and a shared folder on it called Videos. And I want to play a video on > machine called A. > > I can browse the samba share on M from A using smb://M/Videos in > Konqueror. If I then try to play a video (on A) this way, it appears > that A is first copying the whole video data to somewhere locally (maybe > in /var on A) before playing it. This doesn't seem right in the sense > that A is not treating smb://M/Vidoes as a local storage. Or (more > likely) I am doing some wrong with the samba setup. > > Related question: this method of installing a samba server on a machine > and putting all multimedia files on shared directories and then > accessing those shared directories from the machine one wants to play > the media on, is this one of the methods to do this kind of thing? It sounds pretty normal and it works for me. It's how most (presumably all) "network-attached storage" (NAS) devices work. Do you have the samba share mounted on the machine you are trying to view the video from? I cannot get the smb://M/Videos approach to work; albeit I have only just tried it. Try mounting the Videos directory and then see what happens. Something like: # mount -t cifs //M/Videos /mnt/videos -o [ options ] Then use Konqueror to look in /mnt/videos/ > Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding > newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just > filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without > ever having been read. Well said ;-) -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/ Registered user #445000 with the Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
Chris Jones wrote: I am upgrading to a larger HD on my laptop. Since I will have a bit more space, I plan to copy my existing Sarge and Etch systems to the new drive and install something more current as well. I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny install at a later date without having to reinstall? Sid Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 16:44 +0200, Micha wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:59:29 -0600 > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I > > haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. > > I tried that one and it didn't work initially with nspluginwrapter installed. > I > downloaded it directly now and installed and during installation I found out > that nspluginwrapter left some files behind. Now that I've removed them it > works fine. Don't know if the original experimental version from > multimedia.org > works also (I just overwritten that version with the downloaded one). > > by the way, nspluginwraper tends to be a very serious cpu hogger, don't know > if > it's that or flash but we'll see in a bit There isn't a 64-bit acroreader plugin yet, is there? nspluginwrapper is needed for that as well... It is a renegade app on our systems, leaving ld-linux.so.2 hanging after any use, which then slowly chews up memory until the system grinds to a halt. Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
The subject pretty much summarises my problem. I have an Intel 3945 wireless card thingie, and it works fine and dandy with Linux 2.6.24 but not with 2.6.26. I can see the network list with 2.6.26, I can even use aircrack-ng to crack WEP keys with 2.6.26 (but not with 2.6.24, which is the only reason I want to boot 2.6.26), but I cannot get the card to associate with any AP, encrypted or not. dmesg just says the association times out; there's no error anywhere else. I am using the latest non-free firmware-iwlwifi, and I don't know why a different Linux would make a difference all other things held constant. Any wisdoms will be much appreciated. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any textual web browser handling javascript?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 03:14:13PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Are you any the wiser? > > > Sorry, my English is not very good. What do you mean? I mean: "Have I told you something that you didn't know already?" (My message was probably not very helpful.) Cheers, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound But No Sound
Thomas H. George wrote: > Sound: alsaplayer plays cd's & totem plays videos. alsamixer adjusts > volume. > > No Sound: Audacity has no input control - input options are determined > by the sound card so presumably Audacity doesn't see the sound card. > Neither does alsactl. alsactl names returns nothing and alsactl card0 > says card0 is an unknown command. less /proc/asound/card0/id returns > NVidia. > > The system is Lenny and Audacity 1.3.5-beta was installed with apt-get. > Since this is a beta version perhaps the problem is an Audacity bug but, > if so, what is alsactl's problem. > > Any suggestins? > > Tom Open audacity and look in the Preferences->Audio I/O and see which device Audacity is using. In my Audacity it defaults to OSS:/dev/dsp in which case I have to manually load the snd_pcm-oss module (using modprobe). Alternatively you can click on the arrows to the right of the device drop down menu and it may give you a choice to use your alsa device rather than oss. Either move should sort out the sound problems. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:36:11 -0800 Kenward Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 16:44 +0200, Micha wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:59:29 -0600 > > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I > > > haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. > > > > I tried that one and it didn't work initially with nspluginwrapter > > installed. I downloaded it directly now and installed and during > > installation I found out that nspluginwrapter left some files behind. Now > > that I've removed them it works fine. Don't know if the original > > experimental version from multimedia.org works also (I just overwritten > > that version with the downloaded one). > > > > by the way, nspluginwraper tends to be a very serious cpu hogger, don't > > know if it's that or flash but we'll see in a bit > > There isn't a 64-bit acroreader plugin yet, is there? nspluginwrapper > is needed for that as well... It is a renegade app on our systems, > leaving ld-linux.so.2 hanging after any use, which then slowly chews up > memory until the system grinds to a halt. > without the acroread plugin it should just open pdf files in an external acrobat reader which is a preferably behaviour as far as I'm concerned so I don't use it. > > Kenward -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:49, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am upgrading to a larger HD on my laptop. > > Since I will have a bit more space, I plan to copy my existing Sarge and > Etch systems to the new drive and install something more current as well. > > I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. > > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > install at a later date without having to reinstall? If you list Lenny instead of Testing in sources.list, your install will follow Lenny from testing straight to stable. Or you could do it the complicated way and switch sources.list from testing to stable just before the release, and then hold off on any updates until the release. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On 11/22/08 09:10, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: (Of course, even if you use a GUI, if you are a geek you should implement fetchmail/getmail, an MTA, a spam filter and procmail or mailfilter and IMAP, so that you can switch MUAs as easily as you switch underwear, or even access your mail from across the LAN or even Internet. But that's a different topic...) Ha, whimp! I change MUAs easier than I switch underwear! :P Wear fewer clothes... -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: oss and alsa and audio devices
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:14, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, reading your earlier post I also tried to setup PA ... and it > worked (aplay -Dpulse foo.wav worked) ! However, from PA's wiki page it > appears that it doesn't work with audacious yet and neither with > audacity. I use both. Sound input to Skype was also choppy using > pulseaudio. So I have disabled for now. I do not know about audacious, but the new version of audacity (1.3.x) works fine with PA. 1.3 is supposed to be a dev release, as opposed to the stable 1.2 series, but it seems stable and a fair bit better than 1.2. 1.3 is in testing, but not stable. Skype can be a problem, and we cannot fix the issues in Skype since it is not Open Source. But I think the problems should be less with the newest version, 0.9.13. Unfortunately, this is not in Debian at all. I got it by going to the Ubuntu repos. > Moreover, I have noticed that the ease of making the choice between > installed sound systems also depends on what DE one is running. In > Gnome, Pulseadio is specifically listed as one of the choice. Not in > KDE's sound settings dialog box (Debian Testing, KDE 3.5.9), however KDE3 can use it via PAs alsa emulation. Just select ALSA as opposed to something else. > it is also much easier in Gnome to select the output device for category >of applications (system sounds, video, voice chat, etc.). Neat. Perhaps > once the freeze is over, we can get newer version of KDE. KDE 4.x seems > to have a better GUI for setting the sound preferences (give it a little > look see on Ubuntu Intrepid). KDE4 has phonon, which is a really nice audio wrapper layer. Much better than the mess arts became. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: playing multimedia over my local network - how?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:46, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Fri,21.Nov.08, 17:04:23, H.S. wrote: >> >>> Mostly I connect between different machine via SSH. So I can open an X >>> display. That gives the video but no sound on my local machine. >> >> So you want the sound on the local machine? > > er, yes. The sound should be on the same machine where a video is being > played. > >> >> I don't get it, if you mount a samba share all applications on the local >> machine (sound player, gqview) will use it just like a local storage. Or >> am I missing something? Maybe you should tell us exactly what machines >> you have and where you want the storage, respectively the output to be. > > > I tried that. Let us say I have a machine with samba running, called M, > and a shared folder on it called Videos. And I want to play a video on > machine called A. > > I can browse the samba share on M from A using smb://M/Videos in > Konqueror. If I then try to play a video (on A) this way, it appears > that A is first copying the whole video data to somewhere locally (maybe > in /var on A) before playing it. This doesn't seem right in the sense > that A is not treating smb://M/Vidoes as a local storage. Or (more > likely) I am doing some wrong with the samba setup. That is because you are using Konqs native smb support. If you mounted the share you would navigate Konq to file:///mount/smb/ or whatever. Some other apps (eg xmms2) also have native smb support, and can access shares without them being mounted. > Related question: this method of installing a samba server on a machine > and putting all multimedia files on shared directories and then > accessing those shared directories from the machine one wants to play > the media on, is this one of the methods to do this kind of thing? Yes Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > and install something more current as well. > > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > install at a later date without having to reinstall? You can install stable, testing or unstable. You can upgrade from stable to testing or unstable or experimental or to the next release. "Stable" is a frozen [testing|unstable|experimental], depending on from what point in time you see it. If you want to stay current all the time and not become frozen, use [testing|unstable|experimental]. You might want to take a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
On Sat, 2008.11.22, 327, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > The subject pretty much summarises my problem. I have an Intel 3945 > wireless card thingie, and it works fine and dandy with Linux 2.6.24 > but not with 2.6.26. > > I can see the network list with 2.6.26, I can even use aircrack-ng to > crack WEP keys with 2.6.26 (but not with 2.6.24, which is the only > reason I want to boot 2.6.26), but I cannot get the card to associate > with any AP, encrypted or not. dmesg just says the association times > out; there's no error anywhere else. I am using the latest non-free > firmware-iwlwifi, and I don't know why a different Linux would make a > difference all other things held constant. I am using 2.6.26 from the debian sources with iwl3945 on a Thinkpad and I have noticed no problems. I am using wireless-tools from lenny and the latest firmware-iwlwifi package. I do get timeouts sometimes if the signal quality is too low. What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always fails for me. Perhaps that is the difference? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Q: List Policy
Steve Lamb (2008-11-22 04:40 -0800) wrote: > On Saturday 22 November 2008 04:15:42 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> Actually, to be very blunt: CCing people is absolutely the only way >> to deal with massive ammounts of email and very-high-traffic lists >> when you *care* about not ignoring email that you should have read. > > That is absolute, 100% pure rubbish. This is solvable by technical > means, right now, today, if email client authors would just implement > a feature [...] I think that "being solvable" is not an option. Too many if's in your message. I'd like to remind everybody that email is a distributed system. We can't control what others do, we can only choose what we do ourselves and which mail messages we pay attention to. The fact is that mail is read with many different devices with different software and with different features and configurations. Obviously it is also read by different people with varying level of expertise. Mailing lists are read through mail-to-news gateways which may or may not support bidirectional message delivery. Some people read mail trough web-based mailing list archives because they're only occasionally interesting in the list discussion. Some people filter their mail differently depending on if they are in the To field or in the Cc field. Some discussion threads are cross-posted to two or more mailing lists because it concerns more than one developer group. Perhaps the discussion is also CCed to some email-based bug tracking system and the original bug reporter. In short, we don't know how others receive, read and compose their mail, or who are subscribers of certain mailing list (people join and leave all the time). What kind of reply policies and email-client configurations we should enforce for these varying situations? I think they would soon became quite complicated. How do we make people to understand and follow such policies? My opinion: there's no way. Surely there are policies and there are email standards. But there is also the practice. On a large scale, perhaps with a little exaggeration, there are only two quite reliable features in email: 1. Reply 2. Reply to all Anything that requires more advanced technique and configuration than these can't be trusted to work reliably. System must be based on these two. Other features may _sometimes_ work. People can (and very likely will) talk endlessly about the correct and incorrect usage of Mail-Followup-To and Reply-To headers, about good and bad email clients, good and bad configuration etc., but I don't think it will ever prevent mail from going sometimes to wrong places. We can't really control how other people send their mail; we can only choose what we read (or ignore) and how we configure our own system. So I assume that, for large audience, only "Reply" and "Reply to all" work reliably. Based on that there are generally two ways for making a mailing list sort of work for normal people without endless and error-prone configuration and header-editing hassle: 1. Tell people to press the "Reply" button and configure mailing list software to add Reply-To header which points to the list address. 2. Tell people to press the "Reply to all" button. Both have their advantages and disadvantages and the subject has been pretty much discussed to death. In the option 2 a person may perhaps edit the recipient fields manually but there's no guarantee that he will edit it "correctly" from some other person's point of view. Then there's the Debian way: Reply-To is not pointing to the list address and using "Reply to all" is discouraged. Some people like this policy. Nevertheless, it causes some difficulties: people sometimes press "Reply" and thus send mail to the author only while expecting it to go to the list. Sometimes they expect something else. Sometimes people press "Reply to all" and annoy some other people with carbon-copies and duplicate messages. So even with the Debian way, depending on the point of view, mail sometimes goes to "wrong" places. This is the reality and it's pretty complicated. It's not because people are "stupid" or something; it's because it is impossible on enforce a perfectly unified policy and client configuration in distributed system. So let's just configure our own email clients so that dealing with the reality and different lists is as easy as possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian DVD media check
Hi all, I usually end up having downloaded debian DVDs which I do not know if they downloaded properly. The MD5 sums I do not download (when i use jigdo). Is there a method so that the DVD does a self-test so that i am sure that the DVD is in a good state ? ( sort of a media check ? ) OR is there a method to get the MD5 of a DVD which I have with me ? I know that i can get the DVD info from the .disk/info file in the DVD. thanks PS: Please copy me on replies since I am not sure if i am continuing to receive the list mails -- Bhasker C V Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org) The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always fails > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? I've thought so too... I don't remember what I did, but I did try at one point to patch one of the wireless drivers... but I've since reinstalled Linux, so that should have overwritten any patches I could have done, right? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always fails > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? Wait, that will fail for me too... Does it work if you first put the card in monitor mode (airmon-ng start wlan0) and then use the newly created mon0 interface instead? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chkrootkit Problem/Finding
Runs normally until a flood of /usr/bin/find: `head' terminated by signal 13 messages. What does this mean? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please send me a lifeline
I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed instruction on what I need to do I could try. Please help. I am a lone voice in my area for Debian and need help. Thank you, Jesse Taylor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
Jordi, Do you see the accesspoint with iwlist scan if yes, does this work: iwconfig ESSID "essid_name" without "" iwconfig key "key" iwconfig AP xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx where xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is the macaddress of the access point. after this you should see that you are connected. - Original Message - From: "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-users" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24 The subject pretty much summarises my problem. I have an Intel 3945 wireless card thingie, and it works fine and dandy with Linux 2.6.24 but not with 2.6.26. I can see the network list with 2.6.26, I can even use aircrack-ng to crack WEP keys with 2.6.26 (but not with 2.6.24, which is the only reason I want to boot 2.6.26), but I cannot get the card to associate with any AP, encrypted or not. dmesg just says the association times out; there's no error anywhere else. I am using the latest non-free firmware-iwlwifi, and I don't know why a different Linux would make a difference all other things held constant. Any wisdoms will be much appreciated. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:23:10PM EST, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:49, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am upgrading to a larger HD on my laptop. > > > > Since I will have a bit more space, I plan to copy my existing Sarge and > > Etch systems to the new drive and install something more current as well. > > > > I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. > > > > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > > install at a later date without having to reinstall? > > If you list Lenny instead of Testing in sources.list, your install will > follow Lenny from testing straight to stable. Or you could do it the > complicated way and switch sources.list from testing to stable > just before the release, and then hold off on any updates until the > release. OK. Now I remember.. you need to remember changing your sources.lists.. ran into this before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please send me a lifeline
On 11/22/08 13:19, Jesse Taylor wrote: I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do You'll have to learn... But with practice, distinct lack of panic, and a desire to learn, you will succeed. to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed instruction on what I need to do I could try. Please help. I am a lone voice in my area for Debian and need help. Thank you, Jesse Taylor (Are you subscribed to the list? If so, them please reply directly to it.) What exact problems are you having? If you can't describe it, then you'll have to try from the command line. We can guide you on that. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WPA connexion problem with Debian EeePC on model 701
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 22:48:06 +0100, Jeremie Le Hen wrote:
> Hi list!
>
> (Please Cc: me when replying, as I'm not subscribed.)
>
> As you've already guessed, I've installed Debian EeePC on my Asus EeePC
> 701. It works pretty well, though it's slower than the original, crappy
> and deprecated Xandros clone provided out of the box.
>
> Unfortunately, I can't connect to my WPA network at home, I don't
> understand why. This worked like a charm at a friend's home on his
> own AP, but not with mine.
Can you clarify this statement, please: Do you mean that this
configuration worked on your friend's hardware or do you mean that
you could connect with your own EeePC to your friend's AP?
> Here is the wpa_supplicant.conf:
> % network={
> % ssid="tipiupiuropiupiu"
> % scan_ssid=1
> % key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
> % auth_alg=OPEN
> % #proto=WPA
> % #pairwise=TKIP
> % #group=TKIP
> % psk="...";
> % }
>
> Note that I've also tried with the commented line, it doesn't change
> anything..
>
> I've attached my wpa_supplicant.ath0.log with debugging turned on.
> Any clue would be welcome!
Can you see your own AP if you run as root:
iwlist ath0 scan
?
If you can see your AP, post the output here. (Remember to replace
confidential data with a generic placeholder.)
Most likely you will have to explicitly specify the correct pairwise and
group setting. So far I have always been successful by simply copying
exactly what is in the output of the above iwlis command. (I do not have
any experience with your specific hardware, so there might be additional
caveats, but starting from the iwlist information should be a good
strategy in any case.)
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Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:59:52PM EST, lee wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > and install something more current as well. > > > > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > > install at a later date without having to reinstall? > > You can install stable, testing or unstable. You can upgrade from > stable to testing or unstable or experimental or to the next release. > > "Stable" is a frozen [testing|unstable|experimental], depending on > from what point in time you see it. Are you trying to confuse me or something? > If you want to stay current all the time and not become frozen, use > [testing|unstable|experimental]. > > You might want to take a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/. I think I'm going to install both lenny and sid and then copy over my sarge and etch partitions ending up with 4 debian systems.. sounds like more fun than reading the docs. :-) Just kidding.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 20:44:35, Teemu Likonen wrote: > 1. Tell people to press the "Reply" button and configure mailing > list software to add Reply-To header which points to the list > address. This goes against the standards (and you probably know it). One thing I like about Debian is that it sticks to the standards even if it is in minority. Of the open-source mailers I know only Thunderbird/Icedove doesn't support Reply-To-List by default. Claws-Mail even has a smart Reply button that does Reply-To-List by default if it detects a list. Now it's time for the webmails to implement it. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On 11/22/08 14:48, Chris Jones wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:59:52PM EST, lee wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: and install something more current as well. Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny install at a later date without having to reinstall? You can install stable, testing or unstable. You can upgrade from stable to testing or unstable or experimental or to the next release. "Stable" is a frozen [testing|unstable|experimental], depending on from what point in time you see it. Are you trying to confuse me or something? Probably not. For many people on this list, English is not their first language, so confusing grammar must be tolerate, and politely asked for clarification. If you want to stay current all the time and not become frozen, use [testing|unstable|experimental]. You might want to take a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/. I think I'm going to install both lenny and sid and then copy over my sarge and etch partitions ending up with 4 debian systems.. sounds like more fun than reading the docs. :-) Just kidding.. Hmmm. Anyway, what is your ultimate goal? To have a *work* station or server that *needs* to be relatively stable (in which case I'd choose Lenny), or a *home* desktop? The fact that you mention "4 debian systems" leads me to think that this is for your home. In which case just install Sid and be done with all the angst. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian DVD media check
On Sat,22.Nov.08, 14:44:53, Bhasker C V wrote: > Hi all, > > I usually end up having downloaded debian DVDs which I do not know if they > downloaded properly. The MD5 sums I do not download (when i use jigdo). As far as I know jigdo does some additional checks so you should be fine. > Is there a method so that the DVD does a self-test so that i am sure that > the DVD is in a good state ? ( sort of a media check ? ) I know Knoppix used to have this, but don't recall about the Debian iso's (and don't have one handy to check). Did you read through the files on the disk? > OR > > is there a method to get the MD5 of a DVD which I have with me ? md5sum /dev/dvd > I know that i can get the DVD info from the .disk/info file in the > DVD. > > thanks > > PS: Please copy me on replies since I am not sure if i am continuing to > receive the list mails Done Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Any textual web browser handling javascript?
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:30:20PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I creayed a test throwaway account: >> >> go to www.libero.it; >> click on Mail; >> insert the address [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and the password `test' >> >> then you are inside the account. I wish there exist a textual brwoser able >> to enter there. >> >> Please let me know if you managed. David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I got into the account with lynx. I got one of the two messages that > were there. It was a blank screen, and looking at the source I found > just a (long) javascript script - lynx doesn't do javascript. > > Are you any the wiser? No, that's the same I do and I know. So there's no hope to access that account with a textual browser? Thanks for your help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please send me a lifeline
Hi Jesse, Hopefully we'll be able to help. First step is to get a bit more information. When you say that you cannot get online media to play -- what kinds of media files are you referring to? I'm guessing you mean flash mostly; are you trying to do streaming audio or video in any other formats? Can you give an example of what websites you're trying to access? What web browser are you using to access the online media? You said: > everything is set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. Okay. How did you set this up, what steps have you done to make it ready? That will help us know what you need to do next. Hang in there. It certainly is possible to get Debian to play online media, it's just a matter of doing some fixing, and you'll hopefully learn a lot by doing it, too. best, Jeff On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Jesse Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I > have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and > have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is > set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. > I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do > to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed > instruction on what I need to do I could try. > Please help. I am a lone voice in my area for Debian and need help. > Thank you, Jesse Taylor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please send me a lifeline
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:19:58PM -0700, Jesse Taylor wrote: > I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I > have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and > have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is > set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. > I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do > to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed > instruction on what I need to do I could try. > Please help. I am a lone voice in my area for Debian and need help. > Thank you, Jesse Taylor Pick one issue and give us all the gorry details, i.e. online media or flash, tell us what type of Etch system (amd64 or i386), give us your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Tell us what application you are trying to use to do what you are trying to do. What non-debian package are you needing? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 03:48:26PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:59:52PM EST, lee wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > > and install something more current as well. > > > > > > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > > > install at a later date without having to reinstall? > > > > You can install stable, testing or unstable. You can upgrade from > > stable to testing or unstable or experimental or to the next release. > > > > "Stable" is a frozen [testing|unstable|experimental], depending on > > from what point in time you see it. > > Are you trying to confuse me or something? No, I was only trying to explain what you can do and to give you another way of understanding what "stable" means. Basically, you need to decide how recent you want the software to be and weigh that against to what degree you want the software to be free of bugs. It's not a matter of reinstalling (because you can update) and not a matter of waiting for something (because development always continues). If in doubt, install testing and keep it up to date. It's the most stable release that doesn't require you to make the leap from one stable release to another, and it is usually sufficiently recent. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Audio very bad after kernel upgrade
I went from 2.6.18-6-k7 today to 2.6.26-1-686, and now the audio that was formerly working is very poor. When I have any audio playing, there's a high-pitched whine, that seems to track my mouse movements. Once the audio stops playing (and in some cases the parent app/window closed), the audio shuts off with an audible "blip", and the whine goes away. This is true in both KDE and ICEWM. I'm unsure how to go about diagnosing/fixing this problem other than dropping back to my previous kernel. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio very bad after kernel upgrade
On 11/22/08 18:06, Kent West wrote: I went from 2.6.18-6-k7 today to 2.6.26-1-686, and now the audio that was formerly working is very poor. When I have any audio playing, What kind of sound "card"? Could it be an external USB adapter? there's a high-pitched whine, that seems to track my mouse movements. USB mouse? Once the audio stops playing (and in some cases the parent app/window closed), the audio shuts off with an audible "blip", and the whine goes away. That's weird. I use 2.6.25 (self-compiled from linux-source-2.6.25) with no problems. This is true in both KDE and ICEWM. I'm unsure how to go about diagnosing/fixing this problem other than dropping back to my previous kernel. What happens when you play an audio file from the console? This is always a helpful baseline: $ speaker-test -t sine -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:49:18AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: ... > I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. Yes. > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > install at a later date without having to reinstall? Here is the simplest way: Your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* should contain only line relaed to lenny with its codename such as: deb http://cdn.debian.or.jp/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib ... I mean do not use "sid". (Although you do not need to reinstall, you may need to downgrade part of system to make it 100% lenny). You can update system as you wish with: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-update After lenny release, update system to sync completey with released lenny contents with: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-update If I were you, I will also replace etch with squeeze (next testing) or sid (unstable) after you migrate all main activity to your new lenny system. Sid is always the latest :-) See: http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#lifewitheternalupgrades Cheers, Osamu PS: Installing sid works very well now since we are under freeze (I use it). But if you do this, your should expect major package updates of archive right after the release. I usually stay away from upgrades until major packages are stabilized after the release. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch and a half
[re CC'ing debian-laptop and debian-user, so others can help] On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 14:40 -0800, jeffry killen wrote: > On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 11:22 -0800, jeffry killen wrote: > >> I downloaded the netinst and want to install [..] I have static ip > >> address service with my ISP. > > > > IIRC, Debian installer will try DHCP, then offer to configure the > > interface manually. > > O.K., I downloaded the netisntall cd image and burned it to > a disc as data file iso 9660. > I put it in the cd/dvd tray and entered bios setup to tell > the system to boot from cd. > I started with the dhcp connection attempt and failed > saying it did not get any offers. So the system switched > back to the system on the hard drive and boot normally. > This was with the netinstall image. >From what you describe, it seems that your computer is trying to "netboot" (i.e boot from the network), as opposed to trying to boot from the CDROM. What we want is to boot from the CD, start installing the system from the CDROM, then download the extra files from a Debian Mirror. Is your laptop a PC or a Mac? > >> The installer wants to get on the net using dhcp so I change > >> the network interface configuration to use dhcp but I would > >> rather download the business card image. > > > > I don't understand what's your problem here. > > > > > >> The web page in > >> the Debian site has this under the heading for the business > >> card installer: > >> > >> businesscard CD image (generally 20-50 MB) > >> > >> * Available for all architectures. > >> * Needs to be booted with the option 'suite=etch' to install > >> etch-and-a-half. > >> * Will automatically install the 2.6.24 kernel. > >> > >> specifically: > >> Needs to be booted with the option 'suite=etch' to install > >> etch-and-a-half. > >> How do I do this? > > > > When your are at the boot prompt, select the install menu entry, then > > press the "tab" key, then type "suite=etch", so you get something like > > : > > install suite=etch > So, it is 99% certain I am doing something wrong. > What do you think it is? You computer seems to try to boot from the network, not from the CD. > The platform I used to download the cd image files > was Mac OSX and the software I used to burn the > cd was Roxio Toast. I do this because this machine > Mac OSX is the one that is configured with one of > the static ip addresses and is the one I use to > contact the web and do down loads and such. The > other machines I have, including the new one, are > either configured with static private ip address > or public static ip addresses and are web servers. > > So when I tried to use the netinstall cd, I had the > machine connected to the ADSL modem/router > with the interface configured for dhcp. This did not > work. The reported reason that no offer was received. I assume the "No offer" message comes from the BIOS screen (black and white), not from Debian-Installer (blue and red screen) > I believe this is because there is no dhcp server between > the router/modem and the machine. The Modem/Router probably has a DHCP (most of htem have one). However a DHCP isn't enough to allow "PXE netboot". Anyway, what you want to do is to boot from the CD, as mentioned above. > So advertising re- > quests have to go all the way out through the isp's system > to find a dhcp server. My understanding is that at this > stage of the boot process, the machine is trying to find > a boot-p server to boot from. Oh, yes that's correct. We reach the same conclusions. > So it could be bypassing the cd as not bootable. I am not enough of a > computer scientist to get to the bottom of this. You look good enough : > Could I be missing the boot prompt. Things happen > quickly on this machine. What computer brand / model? > I have Debian Etch 4.0 r1 and am told that it does > not support newer hardware (cd/dvd) drivers and > to get Etch and a half, which I am trying to do. You would be able to boot the CD anyway. > Once I get the basic system installed I can use the existing > cd's to install packages. Correct. > I have written a lot. I don't mean to be a pest but this > is what I have to hand at present You can try to ask on #debian irc channel, on irc.debian.org Xchat ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xchat ) is a good irc client that is available on many platform. (It's time to sleep here). Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any textual web browser handling javascript?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:11:43PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > No, that's the same I do and I know. > So there's no hope to access that account with a textual browser? I missed this discussion. As far as Debian archive package discription goes, I do not see one supporting javascript with a textual browser. Google tells me: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Web/console-browser-javascript.html http://www.mandrivaclub.com/xwiki/bin/view/KB/UtilsUbrowse http://links.twibright.com/development.php So it looks like links has/had development code supporting it. Our corresponding package is links2. Unfortunately its changelog states: Mon Apr 16 01:49:07 MET DST 2007 mikulas: Javascript was removed. The reason is that it is very buggy, Martin Pergel doesn't have time to develop it and code is so messy that no one else can understand it. If you use links for special purposes (embedded devices, etc.), you can bring javascript back by copying javascript files from previous release, removing "dnl javascript" lines from configure.in, adding *.c and *.h files to Makefile.am and re-running automake and autoconf. Javascript hooks from main code were not removed --- they just won't be maintained. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chkrootkit Problem/Finding
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:18:54PM +0200, David Baron wrote: > Runs normally until a flood of > /usr/bin/find: `head' terminated by signal 13 > messages. > What does this mean? 13 is signal for PIPE. (See "man kill") I also see bug report as: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505718 It looks like this simple tool is shell script which is not carefully considering large files etc... Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Saturday 22 November 2008 12:49:29 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Of the open-source mailers I know only Thunderbird/Icedove doesn't > support Reply-To-List by default. Claws-Mail even has a smart Reply > button that does Reply-To-List by default if it detects a list. Now it's > time for the webmails to implement it. Squirrelmail supports it with an addon which, unlike TBird's, actually works! In fact it also recognizes the list-unsubscribe header, too. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Saturday 22 November 2008 09:39:12 Ron Johnson wrote: > Wear fewer clothes... Nah, I change underwear once a day. Most days I move from my home machine which is still on TBird to a work VM on which I test KMail. So 3 client changes an average day vs. 1 underwear change. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Saturday 22 November 2008 10:44:35 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Steve Lamb (2008-11-22 04:40 -0800) wrote: > > That is absolute, 100% pure rubbish. This is solvable by technical > > means, right now, today, if email client authors would just implement > > a feature [...] > I think that "being solvable" is not an option. Too many if's in your > message. No, there was one. If they implemented scoring. I went on to explain that it is still possible today through other means. Scoring, however, is one of the most efficient ways of handling a large volume of correspondence in a public forum. I feel that email clients would benefit from letting people score mailing lists. But that isn't a requirement to spot mail to you in a list. > I'd like to remind everybody that email is a distributed > system. Yes, so the axiom of any distributed system applies. *Be CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT YOU SEND, be liberal in what you accept.* Message + CC is not conservative. > We can't control what others do, we can only choose what we do > ourselves and which mail messages we pay attention to. None of the situations you cited are compelling enough to warrant the complete duplication of every message the list server sends out. Not a one. > In short, we don't know how others receive, read and compose their mail, > or who are subscribers of certain mailing list (people join and leave > all the time). Exactly. That is why we provide CCs *when requested* because that is the *conservative* approach on what to send. We're presuming they can take care of the method of reading replies unless otherwise told. The alternative is hardly conservative. > What kind of reply policies and email-client > configurations we should enforce for these varying situations? I think > they would soon became quite complicated. How do we make people to > understand and follow such policies? I have an idea. Provide CCs when requested, draw up a list of acceptable behavior in the list and have people read that before they sign up. Call it a Code of Conduct. Oh... wait... > Then there's the Debian way: Reply-To is not pointing to the list > address and using "Reply to all" is discouraged. Some people like this > policy. Nevertheless, it causes some difficulties: people sometimes > press "Reply" and thus send mail to the author only while expecting it > to go to the list. Sometimes they expect something else. Sometimes > people press "Reply to all" and annoy some other people with > carbon-copies and duplicate messages. So even with the Debian way, > depending on the point of view, mail sometimes goes to "wrong" places. But that is not the point. The point isn't to prevent people from sending mail to the "wrong" place as "wrong" varies from message to message. The point is which policy sensibly places the least strain on the greatest number of people. Defaulting to CC to all means everyone has to either delete all duplicate messages or implement MDA/MTA/MUA duplicate filters. Simply put *some* people missing *some* mail *some* of the time or *some* people sending mail to the "wrong" place *some* of the time is less strain on the system as a whole compared to *all* people having to manually or automatically deal with *all* duplicates *all* of the time. > This is the reality and it's pretty complicated. I see it as pretty simple. A person posts. They, now, have dozens of ways to check for replies. There is simply no need for a broad CC-everybody because someone, somewhere, for some reason might be incapable of getting some replies. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian DVD media check
Bhasker, see my comment that is nserted into Andrei's reply On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:04:25PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,22.Nov.08, 14:44:53, Bhasker C V wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I usually end up having downloaded debian DVDs which I do not know if they > > downloaded properly. The MD5 sums I do not download (when i use jigdo). > > As far as I know jigdo does some additional checks so you should be > fine. > > > Is there a method so that the DVD does a self-test so that i am sure that > > the DVD is in a good state ? ( sort of a media check ? ) > > I know Knoppix used to have this, but don't recall about the Debian > iso's (and don't have one handy to check). Did you read through the > files on the disk? > > > OR > > > > is there a method to get the MD5 of a DVD which I have with me ? > > md5sum /dev/dvd This suggestion has worked for me in the past, but recently when installing lenny, it did not. For some reason, when reading a cd more recent kernels do not report a of data until a couple of extra block of blank disk are read. Zeros DO affect an md5 sum so this will not get an md5 sum that matches the one published for the iso image. Instead you should 1)determine the number of 2048 byte blocks in the original iso image 2)use dd with a data count limit to read in just the right length 3)compute the md5 sum on the data read from CD by dd and compare that to the published master value. I don't know why this problem has started happening. With luck, it may not be happening for you. In which case ignore this excess information. But if Andrei's method indicates that the CD is a bad copy, don't try burning another copy. Instead try my method of checking the md5sum. HTH > > > I know that i can get the DVD info from the .disk/info file in the > > DVD. > > > > thanks > > > > PS: Please copy me on replies since I am not sure if i am continuing to > > receive the list mails > > Done > > Regards, > Andrei > -- > If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. > (Albert Einstein) -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel panic with prism wifi card
I have a T23 and a wifi card based on the prism 2.5 chipset. (this card:http://www.teletronics.com/WLCardshigh.html#specs) I installed the lenny-rc1 netinst on this laptop, and rebooted. On reboot, the kernel panicked. Took the card out, rebooted, and it works fine. When I insert the card it panics again. The card works. I can use it in knoppix just fine. So there's a problem with lenny-rc1. How can I get a copy of the error so I can figure out what sort of bug report to file? Thanks. -Hatta -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On 11/22/08 19:47, Steve Lamb wrote: On Saturday 22 November 2008 09:39:12 Ron Johnson wrote: Wear fewer clothes... Nah, I change underwear once a day. Most days I move from my home machine which is still on TBird to a work VM on which I test KMail. So 3 client changes an average day vs. 1 underwear change. :) Don't wear underwear? -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: List Policy
On Saturday 22 November 2008 19:40:14 Ron Johnson wrote: > Don't wear underwear? AKA, the commando geek! Certainly one I would hope is able to filter on in-reply-to. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
On Sat, 2008.11.22, 327, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > 2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always > > fails > > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? > > I've thought so too... I don't remember what I did, but I did try at > one point to patch one of the wireless drivers... but I've since > reinstalled Linux, so that should have overwritten any patches I could > have done, right? Yes, reinstalling Linux most likely replaced anything 'custom' that you did. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
On Sat, 2008.11.22, 327, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > 2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always > > fails > > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? > > Wait, that will fail for me too... Does it work if you first put the > card in monitor mode (airmon-ng start wlan0) and then use the newly > created mon0 interface instead? Hmm, I don't think I have tried that. I will sometime, and it will probably work then. Thanks! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
H.264/AVC/MPEG-4 Part 10
Hello, Do you anybody how to convert avi and mepg and flash file to "H.264/AVC/MPEG-4 Part 10". That format is the support by the iphone/ipod touch. Thank you in advance, Gustavo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Need Help Config'ing a Broadcomm Wireless NIC
Kent wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude search modprobe > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Celejar wrote: > $ dpkg -S modprobe I was pleased to find this trick, but now that I'm actually trying to use it, I find it only works on packages already installed on your system; it doesn't search your repositories, which is the trick I needed. D'oh! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio very bad after kernel upgrade
Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/22/08 18:06, Kent West wrote: I went from 2.6.18-6-k7 today to 2.6.26-1-686, and now the audio that was formerly working is very poor. When I have any audio playing, What kind of sound "card"? Could it be an external USB adapter? Integrated into the mobo: 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11 I/O ports at e000 [size=256] I/O ports at e400 [size=4] I/O ports at e800 [size=4] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: VIA 82xx Audio Kernel modules: snd-via82xx there's a high-pitched whine, that seems to track my mouse movements. USB mouse? Yes. But the noise is there even if I unplug the mouse. Then I notice it when I press keys on my PS/2 keyboard. Once the audio stops playing (and in some cases the parent app/window closed), the audio shuts off with an audible "blip", and the whine goes away. That's weird. I use 2.6.25 (self-compiled from linux-source-2.6.25) with no problems. This is true in both KDE and ICEWM. I'm unsure how to go about diagnosing/fixing this problem other than dropping back to my previous kernel. What happens when you play an audio file from the console? This is always a helpful baseline: $ speaker-test -t sine Killing X and using music123 to play an .ogg file (Glenn Miller had some fine tunes!), I get the same type of noise. (I'm having trouble finding speaker-test to use your specific test.) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Help Config'ing a Broadcomm Wireless NIC
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:24:59 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude search modprobe > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > > Celejar wrote: > > $ dpkg -S modprobe > > I was pleased to find this trick, but now that I'm actually trying to > use it, I find it only works on packages already installed on your > system; it doesn't search your repositories, which is the trick I needed. For that you'll need apt-file, or use the web form at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > Kent Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: Audio very bad after kernel upgrade
Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/22/08 18:06, Kent West wrote: I went from 2.6.18-6-k7 today to 2.6.26-1-686, and now the audio that was formerly working is very poor. When I have any audio playing, As part of my diagnosing, I went back to my older kernel, and without firing up X, used music123 to play the same .ogg file I was testing with. No sound. Hmm. Maybe my mixer is muted. So I typed in "alsamixer", only to find it wasn't installed. Huh. So I installed "alsa-utils", and then ran "alsamixer", and sure enough, everything was muted. So I unmuted and adjusted, and the sound was fine. Then I rebooted back into my new kernel, and everything sounds fine now. I guess my X mixer settings had gotten messed up sometime around the same time I upgraded my kernel, and there was some overdrive picking up ambient electrical noise. Dropping out of X and using the console tool mixer provided the clue I needed. Thanks for the help! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Help Config'ing a Broadcomm Wireless NIC
Celejar wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:24:59 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kent wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude search modprobe > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Celejar wrote: > $ dpkg -S modprobe I was pleased to find this trick, but now that I'm actually trying to use it, I find it only works on packages already installed on your system; it doesn't search your repositories, which is the trick I needed. For that you'll need apt-file, or use the web form at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Ah, "apt-file"! That was the tool I vaguely remembered using in the past (but couldn't think of in the heat of actually needing the tool). Thanks! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of debian should I install at this point in time?
> Since I will have a bit more space, I plan to copy my existing Sarge and > Etch systems to the new drive and install something more current as well. > I have heard that Lenny will soon replace Etch as the stable version. > Should I wait a bit, or is there any way I can "finalize" my Lenny > install at a later date without having to reinstall? If you're like me and find "upgrading" to be an annoyance, I recommend you try to use `testing'. I've installed testing 5 years ago on my latop and since then I haven't had to do any "upgrade". Instead, I micro-upgrade all the time. At this point I can't even remember which one of "lenny/sid/sarge/younameit" is the current "stable" or "testing" and I couldn't care less. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web development on Debian - Etch or Lenny?
Hi, I want to setup a web developing environment with Eclipse, JDK and Tomcat on Debian. I tried on Debian Etch with eclipse 3.2.1-4, sun-java6-jdk and tomcat5, but can't to use them together. Has anybody setup these tools to get a working environment for web development on Debian Etch, or Lenny? What can I do: must I upgrade to Lenny from Etch? Any advices will be appreciated! -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
