Re: why linux?
Your replies are a tad hard to follow, but here's some tips that should help make things more readable: http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices S C wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > That rant was nothing; you should have seen the hoops I had to jump > through to restore files when I deleted the wrong one. You might consider installing a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. This will go a long way in making things a bit more comforatable on the transition (my preference is for KDE, since new users can basically just click through "Make it look and feel like Windows" and end up at a starting point where they're already familiar with the basics and can start exploring without doing too much damage). > As mentione, I need a jumping off place and a > methodology to follow and a way to know that the > information I am getting is current or applies to 2.8 > or something worse. > > It'll come. I used to program IBM mainframes; in many > ways that was worse. If you don't believe me, try > reading IBM documentation. I keep an IBM JCL manual around as a reminder that the previous generation was at least as severely brain damaged as a whole as mine is. It gives me some solace that the Beavis and Butthead Generation has some precedent. > What I should do is ignore those who ignore me; simply > don't return. That's not necessarily the best solution. Silence doesn't necessarily mean spite, it could also mean "I don't know", "Your question isn't interesting", "You obviously aren't even trying to ask a smart question", or "I'm not even at my keyboard and forgot to log out." If you're really expecting to get help out of #debian, you need to play by thier rules. I strongly suggest looking through this before the next time you /join #debian. Odds are if you're getting ignored in #debian, it's because you're way outside the guidelines and people don't want to play Twenty Questions for free. http://wiki.debian.org/PoundDebianGuidelines -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 20:57:31 -0400 "Patrick Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Patrick, > I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has > this irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". > I'm reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems > likely, but I'd love to add a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? As well as the suggestions already made, which might be a bit "homebrew" for you, try; http://www.cheeplinux.com/index.php?cPath=43&osCsid=36ebe066c2028cb6008b8e920e12d13c The badges cost £1.00 or approx $2.00 US. Cheeplinux are UK based, so if you're elsewhere (difficult to know, with a gmail addy), shipping costs might add a fair bit on. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break It's Yer Money - Wonder Stuff signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Query on adding a USB hdd
On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:12:36 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 17:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > After all the stories about laptops full of sensitive data being > > stolen, and tapes full of sensitive data being lost, you still have > > to ask why someone wants to encrypt private data? > > It comes to mind; why all this data is on a "portable device" in the > first place? That's like asking, why lock your apartment in the first place if all the lock does is merely slow down the burglar? We're not talking about well-equipped secret services or dedicated hackers cracking encrypted portable disks. We're talking about stopping nosy thieves or finders of lost stuff from poking their nose in private email or photos. A properly encrypted disk is a guarantee that such data will remain private in the vast majority of cases. In fact, to those that really want to get at the data, a properly encrypted (as in: unguessable passphrase, long enough key) laptop will make any other approach than directly attacking the laptop more feasible. --D. pgpCcAxYNCJzK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: UTF encoding when mounting USB stick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 01:16, Artur G. Sibagatullin wrote: > Hi! >> I don't do Hal. What happens if you just use mount? With type vfat, >> you can just use the option utf8. > If I use mount command it work fine. > If HAL mounts it #mount gives: > /dev/sdb1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat > (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,shortname=winnt,uid=1035) > and #ls: > ??? ?? > ??? ?? ?? Skoda Felicia LX 1.6. 20070316 > ??? ?? ?? Skoda Felicia LX 1.6. 20070409 > If I manually mount it by: > sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,uid=1035 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp/ > #mount gives: > /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/tmp type vfat (rw,iocharset=utf8,uid=1035) > and #ls: > Для статьи > Расходы на автомобиль Skoda Felicia LX 1.6. 20070316 > Расходы на автомобиль Skoda Felicia LX 1.6. 20070409 > How to say HAL to use iocharset option??? I'm sure there's a udev option to change that behavior. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVULUS9HxQb37XmcRAo1cAKDF8TN20FEpIKnU/FPkMM/ovWLiWwCcCHIC BxYs584g6+rJ7WK/zDmlrPc= =hEHr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Query on adding a USB hdd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 02:30, Dan H wrote: [snip] > > In fact, to those that really want to get at the data, a properly > encrypted (as in: unguessable passphrase, long enough key) laptop will > make any other approach than directly attacking the laptop more > feasible. Maybe it's just too late and I'm too tired, but I don't understand what you mean. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVUNTS9HxQb37XmcRAu0OAKC52u3b2I7R4AG9ul2yadbAoFqx/QCbBOop U48gJEi7HacJNxeCtuYFl60= =6jtK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Query on adding a USB hdd
On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:17:50 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I gpg a tarball today with whatever algorithm is current, in 10 > years that algorithm may be long cracked. Will the gpg authors keep > support for it? Perhaps. Just yesterday I had a similar problem which pretty much combined all the troubles mentioned in this thread. It turnmed out I got lucky seven times in a row. Here goes the story: I tried to fire up my ancient parallel-port Iomega ZIP drive to rescue some data from old disks. I was happy to discover that I had been far-sighted enough to store the drive together with the disks in a plastic bag (1). Luckily, the current 2.6. kernels still have the ppa driver (2), and luckily modern desktop PCs still have parallel printer ports (3). The first problem was to get a reliable electrical connection through the dust-ridden ancient connectors. After unplugging and re-plugging the cable several times I got it to work (4). The next problem was to make the ZIP recognize the disks. I remember from back when I used it regularly the drive had started to play funny and make a lot of clicking noises, probably due to dirty heads. Obviously this hadn't gotten better during the past five years. It took me several minutes of kicking the drive and loading and unloading kernel drivers to get each disk to mount (5). Having finally mounted the disks, I discovered that they contained PGP-encrypted tarballs. When I tried to decrypt them, GPG told me that they were encrypted using IDEA which wasn't supported any more due to patent issues. Fortunately I was able to download an IDEA module from a Danish server that ran fine with GPG (6). One more problem I would have had is that I might have forgotten my old passphrase. Fortunately I've been using one and the same passphrase for over 10 years now, which in itself isn't so good, so I could finally decrypt all my data, re-encrypt it with GPG and commit it to my current backup scheme (7). --D. pgpJ72i24YVv4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why linux?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:45:32 -0400 (EDT) S C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, and this you could > not possibly know, irreplaceable pictures digital pictures are on the > hard drive and I will not jeopardize their existence for any reason. > That means no installing anything new, at leat until I know a lot > more about what I am doing. That is stupid in itself. If you don't keep (multiple) backups of "irreplaceable" data you might as well delete the data right now. I mean the hard disk might crash on you tomorrow and then what? Independently of the question whether you want to muck around with your system at all, do make backups. --D. pgpgTqvgVk42I.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why linux?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:10:02 -0400 (EDT) S C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for responding. Responses (rationalizations?) are in relevant > sections of your text. Please learn how to quote properly (like I did above), or get a mail reader that does it automatically (which one doesn't, anyway?). Your posts are hard to follow otherwise. --D. pgp7TaKmPAr47.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
On 23 May 2007, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >Hi: >I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this >irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". I'm >reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, >but I'd love to add a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? >Patrick You can remove the sticker carefully with a razor blade or something similar. The stickiness will then come off with something like Dabitoff (a clothes cleaner in the UK). Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Semi-OT] Retrieving those old passphrases (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 02:50, Dan H wrote: [snip] > > One more problem I would have had is that I might have forgotten my old > passphrase. Fortunately I've been using one and the same passphrase for > over 10 years now, which in itself isn't so good, so I could > finally decrypt all my data, re-encrypt it with GPG and commit it to my > current backup scheme (7). That's the REALLY big issue, especially for organizations. There needs to be a key escrow process so that 8 years later when the person who did the encrypting is long gone, the data can still be retrieved. My idea is to: 1. print the passphrase plus relevant info, 2. put it in an envelope well-marked with such vitals as key bit length and cypher used) and seal it, 3. sign your name and timestamp across the edge of the seal, so that it will be obvious if someone opens it and reseals it, 4. put packing tape all around it, 5. send it to Iron Mountain or a bank deposit box. Then impress upon Important People that this is Important Stuff that needs fiduciary care. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVUivS9HxQb37XmcRAtZ7AJ99+l5tUED5zvD1ftzHrFOzP6JojgCeJGpb yF1Jg5ipZRGp4T+UAmjuaME= =7aSq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heimdal kerberos on debian?
Project pages are at: http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/ and manual at: http://www.h5l.se/manual/heimdal-0-7-branch/info/heimdal.html and you can install it too. Heimdal communicates with LDAP trough unix sockets and I believe that there is still a problem that heimdal expects it to be in /var/run/ldapi and slapd actually creates /var/run/slapd/ldapi, but you can fix it trough appropriate start option for slapd (in /etc/default/slapd) I am not sure if debian ships with appropriate schema for heimdal, but it is included in heimdal source, sou you can download it and use it (no need to compile it). Otherwise it runs fine with debian. Little trickier is to build smbk5pwd overlay on debian if you really need it. 2007/5/23, Martin Marcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello, does anyone have a link to a howto for heimdal kerberos (even basic)? i couldn't find anything for debian+heimdal(+openldap - heimdal can store it's data in ldap). I found this: http://www.openinput.com/auth-howto/index.html which seems to be somewhat the reference of heimdal kerberos howtos (just about every link chain i found leads there). Since I'm doing this right now I mailed the author if he could provide me with the source for his howto so that I could generate a debian howto for a situation similiar to the one described there. The packages as aptitude search shows are there, i just wonder why nobody seems to use it, are there major reasons to stay away from heimdal or is it just the absence of howtos? -- Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mycorners.com https://www.xing.com/profile/Martin_Marcher http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinmarcher http://www.studivz.net/profile.php?ids=9f83ea8c5996b8ec http://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3KDAGCL2NKOIM/ref=reg_hu-wl_goto-registry/302-4432803-5146435?ie=UTF8&sort=date-added -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate)
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:37:02 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT ewetel DOT net wrote: > - Nachricht von Florian Kulzer - > Datum: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:01:00 +0200 >Betreff: Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate) > An: debian-user AT lists DOT debian DOT org > >> On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 20:12:49 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT >> ewetel DOT net wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a big problem sincen the update on Monday evening, 21.5. >>> I use an aspire laptop with sid and kernel 2.6.20. >>> >>> When I tried to login at kdm after the update, after giving the user and >>> pass, the kde welcome-screen comes up. The start window with the symbols >>> showing what loads at the moment stopped at the second one (I think >>> "devices") for 30 seconds. After that I got my backround image (without >>> desktop icons) and a grey bottom-bar (where normally the kde-taskbar is) >>> and a moveable mouse cursor. Nothing more! No interaction possible. I >>> installed fvwm to use my programs. >>> >>> I tried it several times, sometimes it hangs completely at the second >>> symbol, blinking but nothing more. >>> >>> Is the reason a broken KDE, I have no explanation. >>> >>> The /var/log/kdm.log gave no help. [...] > We have the same problem now, > > I tested KDE with a new user but it was the same. Then I listed my 3.5.7 > packages, I got a long list with allmost all kde packages I have. The only > 3.5.6 packages are: > > kde-i18n-de 4:3.5.6-1 > ksync 4:3.5.6.dfsg.1-2 > > The german language package, could that be the problem? I think a localization package should not have such a dramatic effect, especially since we are not dealing with a major KDE upgrade, just a change in the "third digit" of the version. I would first try to make sure that you really did a complete upgrade of all available package. (The "aptitude search" command I gave in my other mail is OK to get an overview, but it might miss some more subtle issues related to libraries.) I would do the following on a text terminal (as root or with sudo): invoke-rc.d kdm stop aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade invoke-rc.d kdm start (You can use apt-get, wajig, etc. instead of aptitude if you prefer, of course, but make sure you do "dist-upgrade" and not just "upgrade".) If it does not work after that then you might still have processes that use old versions of upgraded libraries. The easiest way to rule that out is to reboot and try again. No luck? Check ~/.xsession-errors after KDE hangs. (I hope you can still use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to a terminal when that happens.) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Query on adding a USB hdd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 03:09, Dan H wrote: > On Thu, 24 May 2007 02:48:35 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 05/24/07 02:30, Dan H wrote: >>> In fact, to those that really want to get at the data, a properly >>> encrypted (as in: unguessable passphrase, long enough key) laptop >>> will make any other approach than directly attacking the laptop more >>> feasible. >> Maybe it's just too late and I'm too tired, but I don't understand >> what you mean. > > Physically breaking into the building of whoever is being spied on for > written notes or printouts. Getting a mole into the target organization. > Analyzing EM emissions from target. Intercepting IP traffic. Obtaining > passwords from target by bribe, extortion or torture. Any of those > promise more (and faster) success than attacking a well-encrypted disk, > and all of them are employed by truly interested parties. Ah, gotcha. Black bag ops, TEMPEST, CARNIVORE, social engineering & rubber hose cryptography. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVUrfS9HxQb37XmcRArx/AJ9bAVmwnYKPxHvjOxVZGgLZ+EvvdQCfQqPK CnCUsgGcNn2KDDVmsIFN89Q= =6nyU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Query on adding a USB hdd
On Thu, 24 May 2007 02:48:35 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 05/24/07 02:30, Dan H wrote: > > In fact, to those that really want to get at the data, a properly > > encrypted (as in: unguessable passphrase, long enough key) laptop > > will make any other approach than directly attacking the laptop more > > feasible. > > Maybe it's just too late and I'm too tired, but I don't understand > what you mean. Physically breaking into the building of whoever is being spied on for written notes or printouts. Getting a mole into the target organization. Analyzing EM emissions from target. Intercepting IP traffic. Obtaining passwords from target by bribe, extortion or torture. Any of those promise more (and faster) success than attacking a well-encrypted disk, and all of them are employed by truly interested parties. --D. pgpoxRl6d4Vv6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric A. Bonney wrote: > Ken Hu wrote: >> Dear All: >> >> I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem >> "really" can work on both Linux and Mac OSx >> >> I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read >> ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. >> >> The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can >> plug it to mac and linux box. >> >> Does anyone have any successful experience ? >> >> Ken >> >> >> > I might be off here, but I thought that Samba would work. Of course I > am still trying to figure out how to get Samba to work with my WinXP Pro > network in my house also. :D But samba is not a file system, is it? vfat might be a filesystem accessible for both (I don't know about Mac). Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVV3aC1NzPRl9qEURArr1AJ43OjJrBMRe8O/2zVOvKc6fgBmeMgCff/IA fSFqbNIkA5cHs0Pz+N/5o/4= =pmcc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 23 May 2007, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >>Hi: >>I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this >>irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". I'm >>reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, >>but I'd love to add a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? >>Patrick > > You can remove the sticker carefully with a razor blade or something > similar. The stickiness will then come off with something like Dabitoff > (a clothes cleaner in the UK). I have removed several of those stickers successfully by slightly warming the area and just carefully tearing those off. It depends on the composition of the surface it's attached to, of course. If there should remain a stickyness, you could try a soft detergent or propane alcohol etc. That doesn't stop you from adding a debian button, however. ;-) YMMV, etc. Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVWAmC1NzPRl9qEURAk+tAJ9o2K9PkdNNYMjc8XCBofoK6aHuTgCfcWrh TVEjhDUcNGnJc5Xk2JAItyU= =fcQW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Offline TexLive Installation
This stuff takes at least 600m and is not used every day. Is it possible to install it offline, i.e. to a CD or DVD, and then insert this when I am using Tex with these language/font options? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 08:57:31PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Hi: > > I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this > irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". I'm reluctant > to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, but I'd love to add > a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? Something like this? http://www.linuxiso.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=198 -- Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://karl.jorgensen.com Today's fortune: Even a hawk is an eagle among crows. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mailclient behind proxy
thanigai rajan schrieb: > Hi all, > In my SQUID on ETCH configuration, > My LAN has 192.168.0.0/24, and isp router has 192.168.1.254 > there is no problem with browsing. > while i configuring the mail client(Thunder bird, evolution etc) it says > the > error as "213.34.24.45 network not reachable " Squid is neither an SMTP Proxy nor a POP3 Proxy. Use NAT for that. Willi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble building glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2
On 5/23/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/07 03:43, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 5/21/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 05/21/07 05:32, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm trying to upgrade my system from glibc-2.3 to 2.5 and gcc-4.1.1 to >> > 4.1.2. >> > I did "wajig build glibc" but this results in a request for gcc-4.1.2. >> > However, doing "wajig build gcc-4.1" complains about absence of >> > glibc-2.5. How should I proceed? >> >> What branch are you running? Testing/lenny? > > It's a whole mess actually. There's much that remains from Etch and > I've most recently been building Sid stuff successfully (including > Linux 2.6.21), until glibc and gcc suffer recursive dependencies. I'll > go check out the more exact story (for there's also gcj-4.1 and > gcc-multilib involved), but provide some pointers now if you can. A combo of Etch & Sid? Yech. Definite recipe for trouble. Are you trying to build Sid source debs on Etch? That *might* work, but why not then just move to Sid? I'm trying to, but via the way of the source. I don't have binary packages available. I'll proceed with the question again after a while. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm fonts - problem solved and able to replicate
Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was trying some bigger fonts to use with xterm but adding them and > then starting xterm would make xterm size very large, more than the > screen size. So I edited .Xresources and added a xterm*geometry option > to a reasonable geometry size. http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#tiny_menus -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UTF encoding when mounting USB stick
> I'm sure there's a udev option to change that behavior. I tried to add fdi file with my options true true but HAL doesn't load them -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
routing table setup
Hi all, I have got some problem setting up the routing table. Currently, the table is, ,[ netstat -nr ] | 10.1.1.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp1 | 166.111.210.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 | 0.0.0.0 166.111.210.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 ` eth1 is in a local network, i have to first connect eth1, then i can connect ppp1. And via ppp1(a vpn network), i can go out of the local network. The problem is that within current table, the default gateway has fallen into eth1, but i can't go outside through eth1. While, if i make ppp1 be the default gateway, i can go nowhere, since ppp1 depends on eth1. How i can solve this problem? (one workaround i'm using is by adding host/network based routing enty one by one..e.g., , | sudo route add -net 209.85.139.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp1 ` ) William -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
On 5/24/07, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". I'm reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, but I'd love to add a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? I remember, Richard Stallman usually have a roll of "GNU & Linux - the dynamic duo" stickers, and is giving them away at meetings/conferences. So, just find closest meeting and go there to get one ;) Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: > > Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way > > to mount HFS on Linux. > > > > Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my > > usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. > > The hfs & hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by > default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. Installing hfsplus and hfsutils should do it... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: UTF encoding when mounting USB stick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 06:33, Artur G. Sibagatullin wrote: >> I'm sure there's a udev option to change that behavior. > I tried to add fdi file with my options > >bool="true"> > > type="bool">true > type="bool">true > > > > but HAL doesn't load them Did you log out/log in? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVY38S9HxQb37XmcRAtquAJ9aGoLOlWrO1rWanCtPqTDd7c3SzQCglpeb prz3F0ThyvatJJ1EAhF68yo= =1B6W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Offline TexLive Installation
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:42:35PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > This stuff takes at least 600m and is not used every day. > > Is it possible to install it offline, i.e. to a CD or DVD, and then insert > this when I am using Tex with these language/font options? > Considering the hassle that would be involved in that, I'd say it is not worth it. Your accesses would also be terribly slow. Have you considered just getting a new bigger hard drive? Drives are dirt cheap now, even for 100+ GB drives. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 07:05, Owen Heisler wrote: > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: >>> Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way >>> to mount HFS on Linux. >>> >>> Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my >>> usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. >> The hfs & hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by >> default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. > > Installing hfsplus and hfsutils should do it... Those utilities haven't been updated since 1998. http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/version.html I'd go with the kernel drivers. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVZAsS9HxQb37XmcRAtZZAJ0fuaQxnssITXfTes3lFKqG3xItJQCZAQP8 o4g+MUAOYgIfPTpLr8YqNss= =cyV8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 04:41, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Eric A. Bonney wrote: >> Ken Hu wrote: >>> Dear All: >>> >>> I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem >>> "really" can work on both Linux and Mac OSx >>> >>> I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read >>> ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. >>> >>> The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can >>> plug it to mac and linux box. >>> >>> Does anyone have any successful experience ? >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >> I might be off here, but I thought that Samba would work. Of course I >> am still trying to figure out how to get Samba to work with my WinXP Pro >> network in my house also. :D > > But samba is not a file system, is it? > > vfat might be a filesystem accessible for both (I don't know about Mac). Correct. SMB is a file- & print-server network protocol. http://us1.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVZFVS9HxQb37XmcRAt2pAKCJ/zIwkdeEOGWi2vBxd0pq1nmMPQCgk1hX pzsQEz8zn/NV5gemEmAOxnw= =03jz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/23/07 20:33, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > >> > >>> At least it's related to Linux :) > >>> > >>> To make it short here is the link: > >>> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html > >>> > >>> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign. > >> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for > >> their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of > >> other vendors games instead? > > > > Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine > > enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW > > has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it > > change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their > > eyes) > > > > WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO. > > > > Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and > > banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet > > only about 15 users used it (me being one). > > Wasn't that ~6 months ago? No, try 6 years ago. Of course they could have done another since then. I haven't played any "games" since since Unreal Tournament and UT2003/2004. Then when my two licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I stopped playing twitch games all together. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Read OpenXML Excel file in OpenOffice.org?
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 22:02 -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > On 5/23/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dusty Wilson wrote in Article > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > > I have data that was exported from MySQL > > Query Browser to what appears > > > to be an OpenXML-formatted Excel document. I can't seem to get > > > OpenOffice.org to open it. Do you guys know how to go about opening > > > this document? > > > > Might try saving it in the traditional Excel format and see if OpenOffice > > can open that. Contrary to the name, OpenXML is not open. Nobody but > > Microsoft supports it, and only in recent versions of MS Office. > > The real problem is that I have files already stored in this > non-binary format and I can't open them. I didn't see a way to export > from MySQL Query Browser to Excel in any other format, but I could be > wrong. But really, that's not the issue. I just wanted to be able to > open these (or any other) files that are formatted in this format. > > Regarding OpenXML's openness, it seems like it should be easier for us > to develop for since we don't (or shouldn't at least!) have to > reverse-engineer it. 6000+ single spaced pages of specifications, plus an additional 3000+ pages of "external reference" and in any case, it does binary encapsulation for "legacy" excel formats. > I'm hoping someone is working to get code into upstream OOo so we can > start reading those files. I refuse to install Novell's "special" > version of OOo, so unless there is a nice way to go about reading > these files, I'll just do without. Then you are out of luck. I am sure there is someone somewhere doing it. In all reality though, it'll probably be YEARS before it'll show up. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OpenGL rendering problem
Thanks for the reply. The output of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo is [EMAIL PROTECTED]:LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo name of display: :0.0 libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.2.0 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:00.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:00.0 libGL error: Can't open configuration file /etc/drirc: No such file or directory. libGL error: Can't open configuration file /home/eftaxiop/.drirc: No such file or directory. display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 1x TCL OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.1 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Linux should and does work fine with HFS+ as I used my iBook G4 the othe rnight in target disk mode and mounted it on my athlon64 (using Mepis), worked flawlessly. Fat32 (vfat) works with Macs, NTFS won't. OS X will get ZFS with v10.5, if they added XFS too it'd make life so much easier! Kelly
Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:49:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/23/07 20:17, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:05:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >>> It would be very nice if there was a universal cross-platform rw + > >>> encrypt filesystem for archives. Something that you could be confident > >>> that you could decrypt and access in 10 years using whatever OS was > >>> current then. > >> tar is cross-platform, as is ASCII CSV. PGP/GPG is also cross-platform. > > I don't know if a generic tarball I make today will be readable by > > whatever OS in 10 years, which is why I store a current install cd. In > > 10 years, hopefully I can find a computer that will boot it. > > You've got bigger problems if you think that a CD-R will keep it's > integrity for 10 years. No. I figure a CD is good for at least a year. Every year, I pull the two netinst cds from the bank, take an SHA hash and compare it with the written notes, then run something like cdck on them. So far, my Woody CDs are fine. Funny enough, so is my woody floppy set (the whole shebang set of 20 floppies) on Maxell floppies; needed for my 486 that doesn't boot from CD or run an installer after woody's. > > Tape (using tar, and a media used by "large data processing shops", > since they are supported for a LONG LONG LONG time, unlike that gee > whiz specialized crap that NASA seems to love) or SCSI hard drives > (in external enclosures so you can spin them up annually) formatted > ext2 or FAT32 are what I would choose. > Would you use tar to make a tarball and put it on a hard drive formatted ext2, copy as is to ext2 (changing ctime in the process), or forgo a filesystem and write tar directly to the raw disk? What tar format would you use: GNU or Posix? > FAT has been around for 26+ years, and ext2 is 14 years old. > Which is more resistant to bad blocks popping up after time in storage? > > If I gpg a tarball today with whatever algorithm is current, in 10 years > > that algorithm may be long cracked. Will the gpg authors keep support > > for it? Perhaps. > > This is FLOSS. Save the source on a separate disk with SHA512 hash > codes. > And text is *the* guaranteed data format. Database backups should > be text format extracts and "Office" documents should be in ODF > format which is just zipped text. Never heard of ODF, or is it specific to *Office programmes? Personally, I save my latex as latex. The origional contents are plainly visible. > > accessible? Perhaps the time capsule would have to include a whole > > computer and not just the archive media. > > Yes. If by computer you also mean "the whole schmeer, including > many tape drives" since it's common on Big Systems to backup a > single database in parallel to multiple tape drive. Computers keep getting smaller. Computer could mean a little brick that has an interface for the archive drive, the archive drive unit, and some kind of user interface. RS-232C has been around for ever; will it be around for evermore? If the backup medium was hard disks, then an interface for the hard drive plus an enclosure for the drives if the brick didn't have the pysical space. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to Dual-Head? [Was: xrandr only shows one video card]
On 5/22/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:17:22PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> I don't really understand all the geek-speak from what I've been able
> to find, but it appears to me that xinerama has been deprecated in
> favor of xrandr. Only thing is, I can't figure out how to get xrandr
> ("X Rotate and Resize" seems to be the meaning of this name) working.
> >From what I've been able to ascertain, running the command "xrandr"
> should list all the video devices connected, but when I run it, all I
> see is the Intel device:
my reading of the manpage tells me that it shows you the X Screens as
opposed to the monitors. And it looks like you can set which "outputs"
to manipulate.
Thanks for the response.
So obviously, I'm clueless about how to get dual-head working now that
xinerama appears to be unusable (with the "i810/intel" driver update
which breaks it). Anyone have any pointers to documentation that might
get my dual-head working again?
Thanks!
--
Kent West
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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Re: printer setuo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm new to linux and have etch installed with gnome and things seem to be ok > but I can't get my printer installed. Welcome to Debian! Try the NewbieDOC wiki [1] - it may help you to get started. [1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Setting_up_a_parallel_printer_using_CUPS -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: >> ¼ Wed 2007-05-23 ¼ 21:25 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty Ð0 >>> What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? >> Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way >> to mount HFS on Linux. > >> Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my >> usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. > > The hfs & hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by > default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. > They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not sure about boot partition, because i don't know if grub supports it. If you need boot partition, i would try lilo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: urlview regexp
* Andrei Popescu (2007-05-23): > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 02:16:31PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: > > My etch urlview doesn't resolve URLs like > > > > http://forum.linkstationwiki.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3075&p=31281&e=31281 > > > > as expected, they work when copied and pasted into my browser. > > Set pipe_decode in mutt. (See README.Debian for more info) Excellent, thank you! -André -- May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb Linux Kernel 2.6/PPC for Linkstation/KuroBox/HG/HS from http://hvkls.dyndns.org pgpBRDvgYuRJT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fetchmail: POP3< -ERR unable to scan $HOME/Maildir
Ron Johnson wrote: I believe this happens after i accidently did something similar to `rm -rf *' in $HOME(it's `rsync --delete'). I just fix Maildir by `maildirmake ~/Maildir', but the problem still exists. Why is POP looking in $HOME/Maildir? ~/Maildir is where emails are deposited after being fetched from the POP server. $HOME/Maildir and ~/Maildir are the same directory. The former is usually more "script friendly"... Yes, I know. It was easier to type "~" than "$HOME" The question still stands: why is the POP server looking in ~/Maildir? I think that is the way that the OP's server admin has the MTA configured. I know that it is an option in qmail and postfix, as to where the messages are deposited... Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Marko Randjelovic wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: ¼ Wed 2007-05-23 ¼ 21:25 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty Ð0 What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs & hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not sure about boot partition, because i don't know if grub supports it. If you need boot partition, i would try lilo. The OP was interested in support for an external USB hard disk, to be shared between a Mac and PC. So, probably not to be used for booting. The modules are hfs.ko and hfsplus.ko. If you want them available all the time, you can add 'hfs' and 'hfsplus' on separate lines in the /etc/modules file. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Offline TexLive Installation
On 2007-05-24, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This stuff takes at least 600m and is not used every day. > > Is it possible to install it offline, i.e. to a CD or DVD, and then insert > this when I am using Tex with these language/font options? > I installed texlive in aptitude - I opened up texlive-full, and rather than select the meta-package, I went through manually selecting only the bits I wanted. To be safe, if I didn't know what something was I installed it. But I did manage to save several hundred MB by not installing various language support packages etc. If I were to install texlive-full now, aptitude reports it will use 678MB of disk space, so I think that's how much space I saved the first time around? I think that's probably accurate, as some of the individual packages that are uninstalled report sizes more than 100MB. HTH, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 08:49, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/23/07 20:33, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > At least it's related to Linux :) > > To make it short here is the link: > http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html > > If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign. Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of other vendors games instead? >>> Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine >>> enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW >>> has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it >>> change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their >>> eyes) >>> >>> WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO. >>> >>> Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and >>> banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet >>> only about 15 users used it (me being one). >> Wasn't that ~6 months ago? > > No, try 6 years ago. > > Of course they could have done another since then. I haven't played any > "games" since since Unreal Tournament and UT2003/2004. Then when my two > licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I stopped playing > twitch games all together. Ok. About 6 months ago there was a MMORPG that banned users that play from Linux/Wine. Some over-aggressive and stupid dweeb at the company thought that these customers were bots. After a few days, the company realized the error of dweeb's ways and restored the accounts. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVcEIS9HxQb37XmcRAn9MAKCfEz0lZ+E1kYXqM8o4Q1sWdtadiACg6Tyt 9g1cWjZJQkdq+3uvBlM4KiM= =M9m0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 05:29:40PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > The hfs & hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by > > default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. > > > > They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root > partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not ext3 is also a module so I guess it works if you include the module in the initrd. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 08:47, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:49:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/23/07 20:17, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:05:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> > It would be very nice if there was a universal cross-platform rw + > encrypt filesystem for archives. Something that you could be confident > that you could decrypt and access in 10 years using whatever OS was > current then. tar is cross-platform, as is ASCII CSV. PGP/GPG is also cross-platform. > >>> I don't know if a generic tarball I make today will be readable by >>> whatever OS in 10 years, which is why I store a current install cd. In >>> 10 years, hopefully I can find a computer that will boot it. >> You've got bigger problems if you think that a CD-R will keep it's >> integrity for 10 years. > > No. I figure a CD is good for at least a year. Every year, I > pull the two netinst cds from the bank, take an SHA hash and compare it > with the written notes, then run something like cdck on them. So far, > my Woody CDs are fine. Funny enough, so is my woody floppy set (the > whole shebang set of 20 floppies) on Maxell floppies; needed for my 486 > that doesn't boot from CD or run an installer after woody's. > >> Tape (using tar, and a media used by "large data processing shops", >> since they are supported for a LONG LONG LONG time, unlike that gee >> whiz specialized crap that NASA seems to love) or SCSI hard drives >> (in external enclosures so you can spin them up annually) formatted >> ext2 or FAT32 are what I would choose. >> > > Would you use tar to make a tarball and put it on a hard drive formatted > ext2, copy as is to ext2 (changing ctime in the process), or forgo a > filesystem and write tar directly to the raw disk? Copy a (possibly compressed) tarball to an ext2 volume. That way, you could have multiple timestamped or "different project" tarballs on the same device. > What tar format > would you use: GNU or Posix? Good question. GNU tar does Posix. I'd have to research the differences between the two formats. >> FAT has been around for 26+ years, and ext2 is 14 years old. >> > > Which is more resistant to bad blocks popping up after time in storage? Are either? Maybe you'd also have to create PAR2 (forward error correction) files. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAR2 >>> If I gpg a tarball today with whatever algorithm is current, in 10 years >>> that algorithm may be long cracked. Will the gpg authors keep support >>> for it? Perhaps. >> This is FLOSS. Save the source on a separate disk with SHA512 hash >> codes. > >> And text is *the* guaranteed data format. Database backups should >> be text format extracts and "Office" documents should be in ODF >> format which is just zipped text. > > Never heard of ODF, or is it specific to *Office programmes? > Personally, I save my latex as latex. The origional contents are > plainly visible. Never heard of ODF It's the OpenOffice.org 2.0 document format, aka OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications, ISO/IEC 26300:2006. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument >>> accessible? Perhaps the time capsule would have to include a whole >>> computer and not just the archive media. >> Yes. If by computer you also mean "the whole schmeer, including >> many tape drives" since it's common on Big Systems to backup a >> single database in parallel to multiple tape drive. > > Computers keep getting smaller. Computer could mean a little brick that > has an interface for the archive drive, the archive drive unit, and some > kind of user interface. RS-232C has been around for ever; will it be > around for evermore? If the backup medium was hard disks, then an > interface for the hard drive plus an enclosure for the drives if the > brick didn't have the pysical space. If you did that in 1990, you'd have put in an ISA controller. Five years ago, it would have been a PATA drive. All these issues just go to show how difficult the subject of digital archiving is. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVcVTS9HxQb37XmcRArS1AJ9tthx04o3J8O/QI2X7jBSVphaWQQCdFFou 6+zW4Gjqbk/m1L3R2ZrBEAQ= =JGee -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
Hi all!!! How about this? http://www.debianart.org/cchost/?ccm=/media/files/si0ux/132 Regards, 2007/5/23, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Wiseman escribió: > Hi: > > I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this > irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP". I'm > reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, but > I'd love to add a counter sticker. Is there such a thing? > > Patrick > Something like this maybe? :) http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Designed+for+Debian?content=44783 - -- ghostbar on Linux/Debian 'sid' i686 - #382503 Weblog: http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - http://linuxtachira.org http://debian.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-ve #debian-devel-es San Cristóbal, Venezuela. http://chaslug.org.ve Fingerprint = 3E7D 4267 AFD5 2407 2A37 20AC 38A0 AD5B CACA B118 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVOUoOKCtW8rKsRgRAgrPAKCsqsGOkqGyN9RPnw4KZPnR/0G6OACgtNx9 77gO/TjItsuuwUhsV3iMep8= =0kFq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andre Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira (si0ux) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *** Orlandia - SP - Brazil "Unix is user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are."
how can i make my package better ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ,... i have started learning how to create Debian packages. using the official http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html and " Debian maintainers' guide " i created my first package. i need to understand how to alter the package that it may be added to Debian official repositories. so if someone could check the package and give his opinions about it (could e he please gives much comment as he can). Thnx in advance... - -- "Hard in the training ,Easy in the battle" - -- - -- - -- Could you at least use man ? Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRlXIAG9p6JnF9I1qAQJH+Q/+KfaRsZA5y1jZYoqYn62fhc7/k0CGL/zf VmhPh2mN5grEK9ch8Umb/pcYIEMex0oUaIjMCLXTMKTXrVjJ8ICQPcOIWJGVxXAh 8tk94nt+bpjFi661zLYuhz1XTl0OLvPBSsaMRUWdcF9dJQD8C9aPIZqz3KpoK9Bj e6dIMr0c/dDNZ2CHdH/Zf9fcqlcLqlymDyy1VVo/p9g+J30bv6pxhnBFv/wShGfB 5Quq9XGMGhpb+mauZXgYKLYOfqeHK2Kir0BH+Enkgrjx/qTmDCydP6Ch6ZfzeqWW OQhcN7a39xKtpz/H92YTRddA4JGTwGOGilIfRarYG8CySgap6YITeVQOOWDgevj3 bifmktnv8Z1koWX1cZATe7NxniSt7RtbaP3DasyKle1aMBitIcdZQX5n5K3lOqro ATREvIA+E2EoNqyZP2iEkue69rk1y2C3e6+gDE2rINQJqriVtwZbIfPi3m0tV1rn Xw6gXwq6Ve1ErGhFhs8sH+p2qBqdjhHsopNKmtaGPWLwmMeCSytv00HCsmDhaeNW wQKG6o7pNl2Ybw/Ie1Epk2bIYVTbHp8vI9YvrqN+r3PrMkkPhWMBCZO8Bt9MigNu Ue1OdviaQF0ktEcvuNQCUa3V2H47Rs1yQoQO8fcaDeKs01YJXZOUP07nFRYwkmN3 jkpJI4wS/CM= =+vrp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
Am 2007-05-19 18:29:53, schrieb Joe Hart: > You're really showing your colors by that statement. Yes, we already > know that you are quite ant-American, but to actually hope for a nuclear > attack? Be real. How can you claim to be so against war by wishing > something like that occurring? But you know, that US-American ICBN's are programmed to hit Europe? This is an open secret since ages. So "THE FRIEND" of Europe are targeting me here in France SINCE WE HAVE NUKS! OK, only 87 but... It is the USA and Israel, which like to play Nuclear-War and heat the situation in the Near-East. So, maybe any Nuclear-Accident can change the voices in Israel and th USA. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
Am 2007-05-18 17:08:42, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: > Really? Would that be why France, Russia and Germany all agreed that > Saddam had WMDs? I mean is it different because they agreed when > Clinton president? I am officier of the french Army and I had not agreed, (I know the truth since I was there) but the f...ing GOV. It was a political decision. Not realy good and fucked up anything! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: securing desktop
Am 2007-05-19 19:47:36, schrieb Mark Grieveson:
> The issue is that one of the residents will create hundreds of new
> "untitled folders" on the desktop. Further, she'll mess around with
> the panels, the shortcuts on the desktops, and sometimes change the
> permissions on the home directory (ie, making the /home/guest directory
> inaccessible, making booting into that user on the computer impossible
How is this possibel?
You can not change the permission of ${HOME} if you are NOT root.
> until I'm there to change it back). gdm is set up to automatically
> boot into the guest user, without requiring a password. There is just
> the one user for everyone (and root for me, when necessary).
Write a script which is executed after logout.
This script should:
1) rm -rf /home/guest
2) tar -xzf home_guest.tar.gz
and you are done. The archive home_guest.tar.gz should
be the configured /home/guest directory which will be
restored after each logout.
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
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Re: why linux?
Am 2007-05-21 02:57:09, schrieb S C: > For months now I have been trying to make Debian behave like a real Why trying? -- It just works! > OS. However, I still cannot print, format/initialize a new cd or use Hmmm, "cups" installed? I use Xcdroast with my Teac CD-R55S to burn CD's > one to back up files, get the sound working, watch a movie or read xmms is working from scratch if you load the right kernel-module for your soundcard Movies are another thing, but I use VLC and it just works. > images from my digital camera. With Windows all this was simple. I I use GTkam with libgphoto and it just works... > downloaded the relevant program, set it up and it worked. Windows is Do you have payed the Software or downloaded some cracks? (Like the most Winsuck users do) > supposed to be devilspawn and doomed, and maybe it is. It does, > however, have one saving grace; it works. It works without expecting > me to become a systems engineer. If it works better, thenb Pay for it. M$ Windows Viasco 389 Euro M$ Office 769 Euro Burn-Software69 Euro ... > When I go to someplace like freenode/#debian I am ignored. Maybe I Do you have asked or are you whining? > should say to Hell with Linux and sell my story to Microsoft. Accept, but please send us the link, where M$ publish the storry. We want laught too! > Obviously I don't really want to, but how much longer should I put up > with a partial OS? I don't mind telling you I'm damned sick of it. What about using a REALNAME in your E-Mail-Address? And try to ask correctly? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: trouble building glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2
Am 2007-05-21 07:33:42, schrieb Ron Johnson: > On 05/21/07 05:32, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to upgrade my system from glibc-2.3 to 2.5 and gcc-4.1.1 to > > 4.1.2. > > I did "wajig build glibc" but this results in a request for gcc-4.1.2. > > However, doing "wajig build gcc-4.1" complains about absence of > > glibc-2.5. How should I proceed? > > What branch are you running? Testing/lenny? It seems Unstable/Sid I had the same problem with my Devel-Station and my Laptop to get glibc 2.5 running. It took me over 2 days to get all dependencies in the right order. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: why linux?
Am 2007-05-21 13:54:42, schrieb David A. Parker: > George N. White III wrote: > >If you don't want to be ignored, you could try a commercial distribution. > >Debian is mainly supported by the user community -- nobody gets fired > >for ignoring complaints. > > Have you tried Ubuntu? Why? Did they get fired? :-(=) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Re: sed fails to upgrade on debian sid; file date of 1969?
Am 2007-05-22 10:47:15, schrieb Nyizsnyik Ferenc: > On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:57:52 -0400 > nick lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thinkpad:/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES# ls -alt sed.mo > > c---rwxrwx 5389 2484475149 353247318 247, 62 Dec 31 1969 sed.mo > > So sed is one of the oldest Unix commands... ;-) ...and the Computer must have MANY users. :-(=) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: The previous nonsense
Am 2007-05-21 19:02:17, schrieb S C: > The following packages have unmet dependencies: >k3b: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.5-1) but it is not installable > Depends: libdbus-qt-1-1c2 (>= 0.62.git.20060814) but it is not > installable > Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge3 is > installed but it is kept back. >Depends: libk3b2 ( >= 0.12.17) but it is not installable >Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.7) but it is not installable >Depends: libxinerama1 but it is not installable I think, you should install Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Etch from scratch, since your installation is messed up with the OldStable Sarge. > deb http://mirror.peer1.net/debian etch main non-free contrib And you want definitivle Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Etch. > The computer, a Toshiba Satellite A30 with 1.2 gig ram and a 40 gig > hard drive was originally dual boot MS-Debian 3.1. Windows quit. Who > knows why. Debian has been upgraded to 4.1. I think. It is Release 4.0 and the dist-upgrade was not complete. > Printer: HP officejet 4110 all-in-one - cupsys installed and set up > according to the information I found but still non-functional. > However, it will copy and send faxes. This printer should work. > Applications: OpenOffice.org and GIMP. I also have Koffice and > Abiword, but I prefer OOo. Noatun. Realplayer. Luckily, Firefox > works. OK > Speaker is dead. It does work using the live Kubuntu disc, but before > I screw with the hard disk there are some pictures of my wife, who > recently died, on it that I would like to back up because I have no > other copies. See about cdrom above. First of all, you can not remove the system securely because you have important contnt on it, so, try following to get things right: apt-get clean apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade and mayby apt-get will tell you to run apt-get -f install and then again: apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade Now you should install apt-get install k3b and burn your Images onto the CD. hanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > I have removed several of those stickers successfully by slightly > warming the area and just carefully tearing those off. It depends on the > composition of the surface it's attached to, of course. If there should > remain a stickyness, you could try a soft detergent or propane alcohol etc. New MS sticker are really cheap, and tend to wear out. They may also partly unstick, especially if they catch some moisture. So removing them preemptively is not that bad of an idea. :) While you will hardly be able to remove all the glue along with the sticker, it is usually not that hard to get rid of. If the glue used is a "rubber" glue, you can simply rub it off with your finger. If it is more aggressive, you can try rubbing it off with a piece of bandage (or similar cloth). Another trick is to apply a small amount of flour (yes, that stuff that bread is made of) to the glue, and then rub it off. Flour will mix with the glue forming a sort of gum, causing it to be less sticky and easier to remove. Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain plastics. I would recommend against using any sort of non-alcohol cleaning fluid, because usually it will only spread the stains, and make them harder to remove. If you are concerned that removing the sticker will remove a certain amount value, in case you would like to sell your machine in the future, do not be. Nobody cares about the thing, as it does not mean anything. They even put those things on machines that cannot even install generic XP SP2. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVc8WztOe9mov/y4RAoNYAJ9DQ5emPOHSU8uZRXxb3niIitvRPQCgsxON hM7m2J1M7ZcU0PL1XhRxPz4= =9Jhs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, On Thu May 24, 2007 at 20:35:21 +0300, David Baron wrote: > This is a test so please ignore. Yes, you will be ignored now by lists.debian.org. Greetings Martin Debian Listmaster of the Day. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:15 +0800 Ken Hu wrote:
> I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem
> "really" can work on both Linux and Mac OSx
>
> The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can
> plug it to mac and linux box.
1.
Mac OSX uses the HFS+ filesystem.
You can use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the HFS+
('HFS extended') filesystem on it.
In Linux, as root do
modprobe hfsplus
and the usb disk can be mounted like any other disk.
If it works then put the line
hfsplus
into /etc/modules, so you will never have to 'modprobe' again.
Usually, the device used is /dev/sda2, so I have this line
in /etc/fstab:
/dev/sda2 /media/hfsplus auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
2.
As you may have noticed when e-mailing a mac file or putting it on a
different filesystem, the so-called resource fork gets lost. This
affects Mac fonts in the first place; they become totally unusable.
To deal with this, you could install the 'hfsplus' package, which
allows you to transform the mac file into a MacBin file or a BinHex
file (the latter being the Mac equivalent of Base64), so no information
will be lost when transforming it back.
It will also transform Mac text files to Unix text files, including the
encoding (so special characters remain correct), and vice versa. But
'recode' can do this as well.
3.
Mac OSX will also work with the (older) HFS filesystem.
You can use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the HFS
filesystem on it. In Linux, as root do 'modprobe hfs' or add the line
'hfs' (without the quotes) to /etc/modules.
'hfsutils' for HFS does the same as 'hfsplus' for HFS+.
There is a graphical version of hfsutils called xhfs, part of
hfsutils-tcltk. It works in Sarge, but alas, not in Etch and Lenny any
more, probably because the new glibc version clashes with it. I hope it
will be solved some time.
See this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=421457
4.
You could use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the
'DOS filesystem' on it, or use Linux to make it a vfat filesystem.
Both Mac and Linux will be able to access it, although it does not
address the problem with the 'resource fork' mentioned above.
However, there is a way to keep the Mac files undamaged using the vfat
filesystem: use Darwin's X-Terminal to 'tar' your stuff:
tar cf mydir.tar mydir
Every compressed form, such as .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz, will also do.
When putting the .tar.* files back to the Mac later on, and untarring
them, which can be done by simply doubleclicking them, they will appear
to be undamaged.
5.
As a last remark, the Mac Disk Utility can put the UFS or 'Unix File
System' on the disk. Odd enough, I never could make Linux recognize it.
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Re: how can i make my package better ?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:14:40PM +0300, Jabka Atu wrote:
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> Hello ,...
> i have started learning how to create Debian packages.
> using the official
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html and "
> Debian maintainers' guide " i created my first package.
>
> i need to understand how to alter the package that it may be added to
> Debian official repositories.
> so if someone could check the package and give his opinions about it
> (could e he please gives much comment as he can).
>
>
> Thnx in advance...
There is the debian-mentors.net and debian-women sites
they have mailing list and irc channels
To get a package into the debian archive, there are 2 ways:
have a sponsored upload or become a debian developer.
To become a debian developer, you join the new-maintainers queue and
fullfill those tasks which take about 1 year. The other option is to
seek a debian developer to sponsor your package. This means that they
examine it for policy compliance, bugs, code quality, etc. and if they
think its ok for Debian, they will upload it into the debian archive for
inclusion in 'unstable' where it will join the other 16,000 packages on
it happy little journey to 'stable'. The debian-mentors.net {website|irc
channel|mailing list} is the best way to get help as well as the info on
the debian-womens site.
Also, try to use linda and lintian to check your package.
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Re: securing desktop
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:46PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
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> How is this possibel?
> You can not change the permission of ${HOME} if you are NOT root.
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You certainly can change the permissions on $HOME if you are not root:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home$ ll -d roberto
drwxr-x--- 12 roberto roberto 4096 May 22 01:12 roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home$ chmod o+rx roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home$ ll -d roberto
drwxr-xr-x 12 roberto roberto 4096 May 22 01:12 roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home$ chmod o-rx roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home$ ll -d roberto
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Re: trouble building glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:53PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > I had the same problem with my Devel-Station and my Laptop to get > glibc 2.5 running. It took me over 2 days to get all dependencies > in the right order. > Why on earth would you update glibc without just upgrading the rest of the system? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Creating a local repos
Hi, I'm trying to create a local repos from the files downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives with apt-move. After installing apt-move and configuring apt-move.conf file, i ran apt-move and it created a local repos in /mirrors/debian dir. Then i added this entry in my /etc/apt/sources.list as the first entry. deb file:///mirrors/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free then apt-get update. Now if i try 2 install/reinstall a package that i know already in my local repos, apt-get again fetches that file from ftp.debian.org whereas it should be fetching that from my local repos and install that instanly. But if I remove ftp.debian.org and the other entries from sources.list, the packages gets installed from my local repos. My question is obvious, am I missing some steps? Regards -- Abu Zaher --- Time heals every wound, but time itself is a wound that never heals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEST
On Thursday 24 May 2007 20:05, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu May 24, 2007 at 20:35:21 +0300, David Baron wrote: > > This is a test so please ignore. > > Yes, you will be ignored now by lists.debian.org. > > Greetings > Martin > > Debian Listmaster of the Day. If you are genuinly Debian Listmaster of the Day, you have just, so it seems made a sarcastic comment to someone sending a test message. Not that I agree with test messages, or out of office ones. A question though. This list is plagued with OT stuff. Religion, politics, you name it, and it can be discussed. Some of what's going on at the moment isn't even labelled as OT, so you havn't a hope in hell of filtering it out. I've just last saturday also subscribed to the Debian-user french list. This is also described as high volume, but all I've seen on that list is strictly technical questions and answers. Again: If you genuinly are listmaster of the day, and this applies to all other listmasters of the day, just why arn't you complaining about all the OT posters on this list, and saying that their posts will be ignored/removed as well? Nigel. Here we now go with another flamewar/ranting session I suppose. I probably should not take the bait here, but having had a few beers, to hell with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEST
also sprach Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.24.2136 +0200]: > If you are genuinly Debian Listmaster of the Day, you have just, > so it seems made a sarcastic comment to someone sending a test > message. I am almost sure it was a joke. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems an egg has the shortest sex-life of all: if gets laid once; it gets eaten once. it also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only person who will sit on its face is its mother. signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
modem and default gw
Hi, on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default gateway. In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw. When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route to this gateway", and I can't go on the Internet. Once Kppp has connected successufully to the provider, ip addr shows that ppp0 has reseived the inet and the ptp address from the remote server but the defgw is not the ptp addr! It still remain the same! How can kppp assign the defgw route after connected? Thanks. Remigio - visit www.sacraspina.it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating a local repos
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:32:50AM +0600, Abu Zaher wrote: > Now if i try 2 install/reinstall a package that i know already in my > local repos, apt-get again fetches that file from ftp.debian.org > whereas it should be fetching that from my local repos and install > that instanly. But if I remove ftp.debian.org and the other entries > from sources.list, the packages gets installed from my local repos. > > My question is obvious, am I missing some steps? The order in sources.list is also important. If that doesn't work try a pin. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate)
- Nachricht von [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:37:02 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT ewetel DOT net wrote: - Nachricht von Florian Kulzer - Datum: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:01:00 +0200 Betreff: Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate) An: debian-user AT lists DOT debian DOT org On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 20:12:49 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT ewetel DOT net wrote: Hi, I have a big problem sincen the update on Monday evening, 21.5. I use an aspire laptop with sid and kernel 2.6.20. When I tried to login at kdm after the update, after giving the user and pass, the kde welcome-screen comes up. The start window with the symbols showing what loads at the moment stopped at the second one (I think "devices") for 30 seconds. After that I got my backround image (without desktop icons) and a grey bottom-bar (where normally the kde-taskbar is) and a moveable mouse cursor. Nothing more! No interaction possible. I installed fvwm to use my programs. I tried it several times, sometimes it hangs completely at the second symbol, blinking but nothing more. Is the reason a broken KDE, I have no explanation. The /var/log/kdm.log gave no help. [...] We have the same problem now, I tested KDE with a new user but it was the same. Then I listed my 3.5.7 packages, I got a long list with allmost all kde packages I have. The only 3.5.6 packages are: kde-i18n-de 4:3.5.6-1 ksync 4:3.5.6.dfsg.1-2 The german language package, could that be the problem? I think a localization package should not have such a dramatic effect, especially since we are not dealing with a major KDE upgrade, just a change in the "third digit" of the version. I would first try to make sure that you really did a complete upgrade of all available package. (The "aptitude search" command I gave in my other mail is OK to get an overview, but it might miss some more subtle issues related to libraries.) I would do the following on a text terminal (as root or with sudo): invoke-rc.d kdm stop aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade invoke-rc.d kdm start (You can use apt-get, wajig, etc. instead of aptitude if you prefer, of course, but make sure you do "dist-upgrade" and not just "upgrade".) If it does not work after that then you might still have processes that use old versions of upgraded libraries. The easiest way to rule that out is to reboot and try again. No luck? Check ~/.xsession-errors after KDE hangs. (I hope you can still use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to a terminal when that happens.) It would be fine, but I had no luck with that. The dist-upgrade runned, but had not to install any new packages. So it did not work after a reboot although. The .xsession-errors gave (me!) no hints at all: Xsession: X session started for kristian at Do 24. Mai 23:28:22 CEST 2007 startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... Should I reinstall the complete kde packages? Thanks Kristian
Re: modem and default gw
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:42:10PM -0700, remigio wrote: > on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal > softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default > gateway. > In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the > nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw. > When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that > the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in > kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route to this gateway", and > I can't go on the Internet. > Once Kppp has connected successufully to the provider, ip addr shows > that ppp0 has reseived the inet and the ptp address from the remote > server but the defgw is not the ptp addr! It still remain the same! > How can kppp assign the defgw route after connected? Are you saying that when not using your modem, you have a route to the internet via the NIC? Why use the modem then. If not, why set a default gateway on the NIC in the first place? Perhaps you need to show us using ascii art your network layout and the routes you want with and without the modem connected. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:03:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Never heard of ODF, or is it specific to *Office programmes? > > Personally, I save my latex as latex. The origional contents are > > plainly visible. > > Never heard of ODF It's the OpenOffice.org 2.0 document format, > aka OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications, ISO/IEC > 26300:2006. I've never used open office, or any other office-type product. The last "word processor" I used was WordPerfect 5.0 for OS/2. Transitioned from that to Lout when I went to Linux. > >> Yes. If by computer you also mean "the whole schmeer, including > >> many tape drives" since it's common on Big Systems to backup a > >> single database in parallel to multiple tape drive. > > > > Computers keep getting smaller. Computer could mean a little brick that > > has an interface for the archive drive, the archive drive unit, and some > > kind of user interface. RS-232C has been around for ever; will it be > > around for evermore? If the backup medium was hard disks, then an > > interface for the hard drive plus an enclosure for the drives if the > > brick didn't have the pysical space. > > If you did that in 1990, you'd have put in an ISA controller. Five > years ago, it would have been a PATA drive. I guess that's my point. Once you choose a data medium, you would need to store at least one drive and a computer to access it. If your backup media was 3.5" IDE drives, then that means storing a computer that has at least IDE port. Best to fill it up with memory SIMMS and other spare parts so that in when the time-capsule is opened, hopefully the machine still boots. Also hopefully you can still connect the computer itself to whatever computers in the future look like to get the data off. Will anyone know what UTP is by then? There is something to be said for casting something in plain text in bronze and gold plating it. Somewhere between the two is a Jolly Psysic, or at least a Happy Medium :) Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating a local repos
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:32:50AM +0600, Abu Zaher wrote: > I'm trying to create a local repos from the files downloaded in > /var/cache/apt/archives with apt-move. After installing apt-move and > deb file:///mirrors/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > Now if i try 2 install/reinstall a package that i know already in my > local repos, apt-get again fetches that file from ftp.debian.org > whereas it should be fetching that from my local repos and install > that instanly. But if I remove ftp.debian.org and the other entries > from sources.list, the packages gets installed from my local repos. > > My question is obvious, am I missing some steps? > I don't know. Just curious, why not use apt-proxy? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:37:27PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:03:49PM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > > > This abowe is in Hungarian. > I have this on my system: > > $ cat /etc/default/locale > # File generated by update-locale > LANG=en_US > > Perhaps you could try running update-locale on your system and then > posting the output again? I edited the /etc/environment file and now I get messages on English, when reconfigure tutos2: sudo tail -f /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-7.4-main.log 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: database system was shut down at 2007-05-24 22:53:21 CEST 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: checkpoint record is at 0/9B1058 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: redo record is at 0/9B1058; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: next transaction ID: 536; next OID: 17142 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: database system is ready 2007-05-24 22:53:22 LOG: incomplete startup packet 2007-05-24 23:05:03 LOG: incomplete startup packet 2007-05-24 23:05:03 LOG: received fast shutdown request 2007-05-24 23:05:03 LOG: shutting down 2007-05-24 23:05:05 LOG: database system is shut down 2007-05-24 23:05:07 LOG: database system was shut down at 2007-05-24 23:05:05 CEST 2007-05-24 23:05:07 LOG: checkpoint record is at 0/9B1098 2007-05-24 23:05:07 LOG: redo record is at 0/9B1098; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE 2007-05-24 23:05:07 LOG: next transaction ID: 546; next OID: 17142 2007-05-24 23:05:07 LOG: database system is ready 2007-05-24 23:05:08 LOG: incomplete startup packet Then I do these: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tutos2 Document `TUTOS' is not installed, cannot remove. Creating the POSTGRES TUTOS database... HOST: localhost PORT: 5432 DBUSER: www-data DBNAME: tutos createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: Connection refused Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432? Database tutos created ! createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: Connection refused Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432? User www-data created ! --- To enable access to the tutos Database add something like this to your [postgreshome]/data/pg_hba.conf file --- host tutos [IP Addr of localhost] 255.255.255.255 trust --- it is recommended to restart the database ! When using the PHP version of TUTOS please ensure that your php/config.pinc files has the following entries $tutos[dbname][0] = "tutos"; $tutos[dbhost][0] = "localhost"; $tutos[dbuser][0] = "www-data"; $tutos[dbpasswd][0] = ""; $tutos[dbtype][0] = 1 ; $tutos[dbalias][0]= "Whatever you want"; $tutos[repository][0] = "the path to the file/document repository"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 restart Restarting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main. I think it is all OK, except that that I cant open in my browser the webpage: localhost/tutos/php/admin/scheme.php My browser wants to run it and not to open it. Why? -- Regards, Paul Csányi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A virus has been detected!!
A mail containing a computer virus has been detected. The mail has been intercepted & did not reach the intended recipient. From: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi Virus: Scenarios/Incoming/SpamLogic/SPAMLOGIC_FILTER: The operation completed successfully. Scenarios/Microsoft Class 1 file extensions/AV: A matching file named 'message.scr' has been detected. Scenarios/Sophos Content Scanner/AV: Threat 'W32/MyDoom-O' detected by 'Sophos AV Interface for MIMEsweeper'. Scenarios/Executables/BLOCK: The operation completed successfully. was blocked at Thu, 24 May 2007 23:50:57 +0200 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster
I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped working. The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live. The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike audio. On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I switch on the mixer monitor. I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go. The sound system in the kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa. does anyone knoow a fix? Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 11:39:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 restart > Restarting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main. > > I think it is all OK, except that that I cant open in my browser the > webpage: localhost/tutos/php/admin/scheme.php > > My browser wants to run it and not to open it. Why? How to run this php script? -- Regards, Paul Csányi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Dual-Head? [Was: xrandr only shows one video card]
Kent West napisał(a): On 5/22/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the response. So obviously, I'm clueless about how to get dual-head working now that xinerama appears to be unusable (with the "i810/intel" driver update which breaks it). Anyone have any pointers to documentation that might get my dual-head working again? Thanks! try to find something about mergefb. I recently got it to work with my ati card and it beats xinerama for sure. I'm not sure if it works with intel chipsets thought. I'll try to look it up tomorrow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem and default gw
remigio (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal > softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default > gateway. > In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the > nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw. > When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that > the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in > kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route to this gateway", and > I can't go on the Internet. For security reasons, pppd does not change the default gateway if you already have a default gateway (at least if you use the noauth option, as far as I know). You need to explicitely allow this using the replacedefaultroute option in /etc/ppp/peers/kppp or /etc/ppp/options. regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 16:18, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:03:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >>> Never heard of ODF, or is it specific to *Office programmes? >>> Personally, I save my latex as latex. The origional contents are >>> plainly visible. >> Never heard of ODF It's the OpenOffice.org 2.0 document format, >> aka OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications, ISO/IEC >> 26300:2006. > > I've never used open office, or any other office-type product. The last > "word processor" I used was WordPerfect 5.0 for OS/2. Transitioned from > that to Lout when I went to Linux. Well, at least it's text... Yes. If by computer you also mean "the whole schmeer, including many tape drives" since it's common on Big Systems to backup a single database in parallel to multiple tape drive. >>> Computers keep getting smaller. Computer could mean a little brick that >>> has an interface for the archive drive, the archive drive unit, and some >>> kind of user interface. RS-232C has been around for ever; will it be >>> around for evermore? If the backup medium was hard disks, then an >>> interface for the hard drive plus an enclosure for the drives if the >>> brick didn't have the pysical space. >> If you did that in 1990, you'd have put in an ISA controller. Five >> years ago, it would have been a PATA drive. > > I guess that's my point. Once you choose a data medium, you would need > to store at least one drive and a computer to access it. > > If your backup media was 3.5" IDE drives, then that means storing a > computer that has at least IDE port. Best to fill it up with memory > SIMMS and other spare parts so that in when the time-capsule is opened, > hopefully the machine still boots. Also hopefully you can still connect > the computer itself to whatever computers in the future look like to get > the data off. Will anyone know what UTP is by then? > > There is something to be said for casting something in plain text in > bronze and gold plating it. Buffered lignin-free paper. http://www.ifla.org/IV/ifla64/044-114e.htm http://www.nmnh.si.edu/naa/copar/bulletin14.htm http://www.amigos.org/preservation/faq/preserve.html > Somewhere between the two is a Jolly Psysic, or at least a Happy Medium > :) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVhrlS9HxQb37XmcRAuQ5AJ4mL6flmXhT397bEQuK6cnpLyeYiwCggqLj tT0V8y5v1gtSicl7bF3tbgo= =XwlE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: routing table setup
On 5/24/07, William Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I have got some problem setting up the routing table. Currently, the table is, ,[ netstat -nr ] | 10.1.1.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp1 | 166.111.210.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 | 0.0.0.0 166.111.210.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 ` eth1 is in a local network, i have to first connect eth1, then i can connect ppp1. And via ppp1(a vpn network), i can go out of the local network. The problem is that within current table, the default gateway has fallen into eth1, but i can't go outside through eth1. While, if i make ppp1 be the default gateway, i can go nowhere, since ppp1 depends on eth1. How i can solve this problem? (one workaround i'm using is by adding host/network based routing enty one by one..e.g., , | sudo route add -net 209.85.139.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp1 ` Hello: Does the VPN server have a static IP? If so, you can route the VPN on the eth1 and leave de 0/0 GW to ppp1 (I had something like these at home). -- Atentamente, yo Y sin fumar desde (casi) el '1089515700' http://www.nnss.d7.be Let one walk alone, commit no sin, with few wishes, like an elephant in the forest
need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the verbatim
environment
But I do not know of a way to type the character without switching
from LaTeX mode to text mode.
I have found two work-arounds:
(1) Use query-replace to replace any other character (such as a
space) with " .
(2) Once the document contains an instance of " , copy it and
paste it wherever it is needed.
What I really need is a key combination such as ctrl-" (which currently
is undefined in XEmacs LaTeX mode) to produce the " character, but I
don't know how to define it.
RLH
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libxcb-xlib0
The latest package in unstable (1.0-3) does not seem to have the patch available in the package in the experimental repository (an older version). This patch allows setting the variable LIBXCB_SLOPPY_LOCK and allows program to overcome the following error xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed. Are there any plans of incorporating this patch (workaround) in the unstable version ? -- Waqar A. Malik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem and default gw
remigio wrote: > Hi, > on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal > softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default > gateway. > In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the > nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw. > When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that > the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in > kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route to this gateway", and > I can't go on the Internet. > Once Kppp has connected successufully to the provider, ip addr shows > that ppp0 has reseived the inet and the ptp address from the remote > server but the defgw is not the ptp addr! It still remain the same! > How can kppp assign the defgw route after connected? > Thanks. > > Remigio > > > > - > visit www.sacraspina.it > > Since you use kppp to connect to internet, do you need that NIC gateway at all? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:08:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > There is something to be said for casting something in plain text in > > bronze and gold plating it. > > Buffered lignin-free paper. > Burns. Bronze melts. Pottery breaks. Acid rain eats granite. I guess the bottom line is that information that is not used is eventually lost. It must be taught always to new generations, either people or hardware/software. Hard drives have spare sectors and reassign when sectors become degraded; they 'teach' a new sector the information from an old sector. If the drive is on the shelf, we have to spin it up and get the drive to test all sectors. When enough sectors get bad, SMART tells us so we can "teach" a new drive the old drive's data. Data is never maintenance-free. I know, Ron, I'm preaching to the choir. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
On 5/25/07, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the verbatim
environment
But I do not know of a way to type the character without switching
from LaTeX mode to text mode.
You can use C-q to insert a literal " in your LaTeX document. See the
documentation of the function quoted-insert.
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Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
* Kushal Kumaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070524 19:07]:
> On 5/25/07, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
>> typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the
>> verbatim environment
> You can use C-q to insert a literal " in your LaTeX document. See the
> documentation of the function quoted-insert.
Many thanks for the quick reply, Kushal. This is a great help.
RLH
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Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
On 2007-05-25, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
> typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the verbatim
> environment
>
> But I do not know of a way to type the character without switching
> from LaTeX mode to text mode.
>
There is another way to do this. It is a closely guarded secret, but
I'll share it with you if you promise not to tell anyone else. Here it
is:
hit the " key
(here's the tricky bit, pay attention!)
hit the " key _a second time_
Magic!
HTH,
Tyler
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Re: how can i make my package better ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jabka Atu escribió: > Hello ,... > i have started learning how to create Debian packages. > using the official > http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html and " > Debian maintainers' guide " i created my first package. > > i need to understand how to alter the package that it may be added to > Debian official repositories. > so if someone could check the package and give his opinions about it > (could e he please gives much comment as he can). Hey! Where's the package? :) - -- ghostbar on Linux/Debian 'sid' i686 - #382503 Weblog: http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - http://linuxtachira.org http://debian.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-ve #debian-devel-es San Cristóbal, Venezuela. http://chaslug.org.ve Fingerprint = 3E7D 4267 AFD5 2407 2A37 20AC 38A0 AD5B CACA B118 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVjKGOKCtW8rKsRgRArC0AJ94fXWwFUUiPdbLMCEzjMst2voSIgCfWDet 5LvEqh4oeZHPYhIJhG8rORw= =F726 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why linux?
Dan H wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:10:02 -0400 (EDT) > S C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks for responding. Responses (rationalizations?) are in relevant >> sections of your text. > > Please learn how to quote properly (like I did above), or get a mail > reader that does it automatically (which one doesn't, anyway?). Mail clients known to reply funky: Outlook, Outlook Express (top posted by default, no viable fix except switching) GMail (breaks threading, any workarounds??). -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
* Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070524 19:49]:
> On 2007-05-25, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
>> typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the verbatim
>> environment
>>
>> But I do not know of a way to type the character without switching
>> from LaTeX mode to text mode.
>
> There is another way to do this. It is a closely guarded secret, but
> I'll share it with you if you promise not to tell anyone else. Here it
> is:
> hit the " key
> hit the " key _a second time_
The XEmacs implementation which I am running appears to differ from
the implementation which you are running.
When in LaTeX mode, the first press of " produces a contiguous pair of
single left-quotes: `` and the second press of " produces a contiguous
pair of single right-quotes: ''
But this is a standard feature of Emacs/XEmacs LaTeX mode which most
of us take for granted, because in most applications printer's quotes
are desired, and pressing " at the beginning and end of the quotation
is easier than pressing ` twice and the beginning and ' twice at the
end.
RLH
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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux
Greg Folkert wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > Then when my two licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I > stopped playing twitch games all together. How'd that happen? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
On 25 May 2007 00:24:04 GMT, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2007-05-25, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While in LaTeX mode in XEmacs, I frequently have need for
> typewriter-style double quotes ("), such as when I am in the verbatim
> environment
>
> But I do not know of a way to type the character without switching
> from LaTeX mode to text mode.
>
There is another way to do this. It is a closely guarded secret, but
I'll share it with you if you promise not to tell anyone else. Here it
is:
hit the " key
(here's the tricky bit, pay attention!)
hit the " key _a second time_
Magic!
I love this list. I learn something new here everyday.
BTW, this is documented in the AUCTeX manual (Frequently Used Commands
-> Quotes), so, to the OP: RTFM! :-)
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Which Kernel for 32bit Debian on ADM64 CPU
Hi, I would like to run 32 bit Debian Testing/Larry on my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ CPU. Which kernel should I choose? I switched from the default 2.6.18-4-486 to 2.6.18-4-amd64 but I am having trouble compiling an Nvidia module. I get: ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386 (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nvidia.o) is not supported TIA, Chaim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Kernel for 32bit Debian on ADM64 CPU
On 5/25/07, Chaim Keren Tzion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I would like to run 32 bit Debian Testing/Larry on my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ CPU. Which kernel should I choose? I switched from the default 2.6.18-4-486 to 2.6.18-4-amd64 but I am having trouble compiling an Nvidia module. I get: ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386 (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nvidia.o) is not supported The -amd64 kernel is a 64-bit kernel. The -486 and -686 are 32-bit kernels. -- Kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux
Greg Folkert wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: >> >> > At least it's related to Linux :) >> > >> > To make it short here is the link: >> > http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html >> > >> > If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign. >> >> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market >> for their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux >> versions of other vendors games instead? > > Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine > enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW > has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it > change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their > eyes) All id titles are Linux native at this point. Most major current Atari franchises for the PC (all the big ones like UT) are on Linux as well. Second Life is also native. Then there's just playing similar open source games instead until Blizzard gets their act together. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Russell L. Harris wrote:
The XEmacs implementation which I am running appears to differ from
the implementation which you are running.
When in LaTeX mode, the first press of " produces a contiguous pair of
single left-quotes: `` and the second press of " produces a contiguous
pair of single right-quotes: ''
Are you not running AucTeX mode? You should be. apt-get install auctex .
But this is a standard feature of Emacs/XEmacs LaTeX mode which most
of us take for granted, because in most applications printer's quotes
are desired, and pressing " at the beginning and end of the quotation
is easier than pressing ` twice and the beginning and ' twice at the
end.
That's why the first press gives you the appropriate typeset quote (`` or
'', respectively). The second press in the same spot changes it to a
typewriter quote ("), again based on AucTeX.
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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 18:58, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:08:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >>> There is something to be said for casting something in plain text in >>> bronze and gold plating it. >> Buffered lignin-free paper. >> > > Burns. > > Bronze melts. > > Pottery breaks. > > Acid rain eats granite. > > I guess the bottom line is that information that is not used is > eventually lost. It must be taught always to new generations, either > people or hardware/software. > > Hard drives have spare sectors and reassign when sectors become > degraded; they 'teach' a new sector the information from an old sector. > If the drive is on the shelf, we have to spin it up and get the drive to > test all sectors. When enough sectors get bad, SMART tells us so we can > "teach" a new drive the old drive's data. > > Data is never maintenance-free. > > I know, Ron, I'm preaching to the choir. A once-a-year spin-up, fsck and "unzip -t" (of compressed tarballs) would be darned useful. Externally-enclosed hard drives won't need to worry about whether they are SATA or IDE, but if USB ever goes away, it's time to migrate to a modern external drive. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVjx2S9HxQb37XmcRAhYkAJ9URAbnSDet7qRGv8b+FXxMrcspHQCeMQHW +pRsYUAUeu7+uwBfFKbvUiU= =NT8n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs
On 2007-05-25, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> There is another way to do this. It is a closely guarded secret, but >> I'll share it with you if you promise not to tell anyone else. Here it >> is: >> hit the " key >> hit the " key _a second time_ > > The XEmacs implementation which I am running appears to differ from > the implementation which you are running. > I think either you are not running the standard version of Auctex, or you did not understand my instructions. And I was so careful to get them just right! Here's what the Auctex manual says on the subject: In TeX, literal double quotes `"like this"' are seldom used, instead two single quotes are used ```like this'''. To help you insert these efficiently, AUCTeX allows you to continue to press `"' to insert two single quotes. To get a literal double quote, press `"' twice. HTH, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Kernel for 32bit Debian on ADM64 CPU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 20:12, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > On 5/25/07, Chaim Keren Tzion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to run 32 bit Debian Testing/Larry on my AMD Athlon(tm) >> 64 X2 >> Dual Core Processor 4400+ CPU. >> >> Which kernel should I choose? I switched from the default 2.6.18-4-486 >> to 2.6.18-4-amd64 but I am having trouble compiling an Nvidia module. >> I get: >> ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386 >> (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64 >> (/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nvidia.o) is not supported >> > > The -amd64 kernel is a 64-bit kernel. The -486 and -686 are 32-bit > kernels. As is -k7, which is targeted to AMD processors. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVkZZS9HxQb37XmcRAjfnAKCbpe6rTbV6Cmio7Aj2SMsHXYxknACfeEDq qCzY/hm8ZF5iVnAVzpxpZpM= =IrxI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why linux?
I tried both using the Debian installation and a live Kubuntu disc but the memory stick I have doesn't seem to want to cooperate. Yet. Eventually, what it "wants" will be immaterial. Thanks, however, for the suggestion Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 01:45:32PM -0400, S C was heard to say: > Using Ubuntu is a good idea too, in fact I have a live cd of Kubuntu and I > also have Suse Linux 10.1 and 10.2. But, and this you could not possibly > know, irreplaceable pictures digital pictures are on the hard drive and I > will not jeopardize their existence for any reason. That means no installing > anything new, at leat until I know a lot more about what I am doing. You've probably already thought about this -- but *just in case*... Could you use a live CD to access your hard drive in read-only mode and copy those digital pictures onto some sort of USB storage? (USB stick, hard drive, pile of burned CDs, etc) If you're just trying to get them off the system before the hard drive gives up the ghost, that would be the quickest and safest route I know. (hey, I just made some assumptions too, cool) Daniel - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: why linux?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:34:54PM -0400, S C wrote: > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at > 01:45:32PM -0400, S C was heard to say: >> I tried both using the Debian installation and a live Kubuntu disc >> but the memory stick I have doesn't seem to want to cooperate. > > Yet. Eventually, what it "wants" will be immaterial. > So this is a jumping-off point on a new problem. You have a USB stick that you can't get to work. What gets added to /var/log/syslog when you plug in the stick? It _should_ get assigned a /dev/sd* device node which you can then mount. Note that I've never used a desktop environment to know how something like hal handles this. When I installed Hal, the computer kept asking me if I wanted to play a game. No. I did want to play a CD. Open the drive bay door Hal. Open the bay door Hal. It also insisted on calling me Dave. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
