Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Brent Clark

Sorry, couldnt resist

http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026


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google earth error (opengl error)

2006-06-14 Thread Surachai Locharoen




I run google earth for linux. And found the error below. I read in the internet but not found suitable solution.

Do u have any suggestion?
I use i915 intel chipset.

ERROR!  sizeof(I830DRIRec) does not match passed size from device driver
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No


Thank you in advance.
Kan





Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:
> Sorry, couldnt resist
>
> http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026

After reading this sentence in the above article

"Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done 
this before."

I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If 
someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth 
considering his opinions/rant on a new release.

raju

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Re: price of the 3 debian cds much more expensive than what it is told on the website

2006-06-14 Thread bruno doutriaux
what is the gui of debian sarge ?(graphical user interface)2006/6/13, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[debian-www isn't really the most appropriate list for this type ofquestion; adding debian-user to the Cc list. Please direct replies, if
any, there, removing debian-www from the list]On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:30:52AM +0200, bruno doutriaux wrote:> je pense que j'aurais pu vous parler en français ? n'est-ce pas ?> car vous semblez avoir un nom français.
Perhaps, but then please not on the main Debian lists. Not everyonespeaks french here (there are some french Debian lists).> 2006/6/13, bruno doutriaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:> >> >ok, thanks for the link.> >i will maybe download kubuntu. what is the difference between debian sarge> >and ubuntu or kubuntu ?> >(i know that ubuntu uses gnome and that kubuntu uses kde).
> >what is the gui of debian sarge ? is it multi-gui ?> >thanks.> >bruno doutriauxUbuntu and Kubuntu are not Debian; while based on Debian, they reallyare different distributions, with different goals.
The main differences are the fact that Ubuntu (and its sisters kubuntuand edubuntu) have strict 6-month release cycles, while Debian does not;and the fact that the default Ubuntu installation has a lot more choices
made for you already, whereas a Debian system makes less of those.Both have their advantages and disadvantages; for example, Debian will"release when it's ready", meaning that the release will be delayed if
there are too many bugs still open. While I don't expect that Ubuntuwill ship with many bugs, they are a bit laxer in this. Of course, thatalso means that you can never tell for sure when the release willhappen, and that our release cycles typically take longer (so the
software in the latest release is, on average, older than the one in thelatest Ubuntu release).--Fun will now commence  -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4



dvdrip: transcode failiure

2006-06-14 Thread Vegard L. Rekaa
Hi list, I'm trying to rip my first dvd, with the debian-etch package "dvdrip". Dvdrip uses transcode, wich halts and gives this errormessage upon launch:most relevant excerpt from output---
[...snip...][transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading "/usr/lib/transcode/export_divx4.so" failed[transcode] warning : (encoder.c) loading video export module failed[transcode] warning : failed to init export modules
[transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failedAll sugestions to why this won't work are welcomed with great gratitude. PS! Id the entire outout is of any use, I added it at the bottom of this mail.
System info: Debian GNU/LInux Testing (Etch)Kernel 2.6.15Cheers, Vegard---entire output-Job 'Transcoding video - title #1, pass 1' failed.
Executed command: mkdir -m 0775 -p '/felles/nedlastinger/dvdrip/database/unnamed/tmp' && cd /felles/nedlastinger/dvdrip/database/unnamed/tmp && dr_exec transcode -H 10 -a 0 -T 1,-1,1 -x dvd,null -i /dev/loop0 -w 6000,50 -b 128,0,0 --a52_drc_off -f 25 -Y 4,20,4,12 -B 9,6,8 -R 1 -y divx4,null -o /dev/null --print_status 20 && echo DVDRIP_SUCCESS 
Last output was:transcode v1.0.2 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg(dvd_reader.c) DVD title 1/7: 6 chapter(s), 1 angle(s), title set 1(dvd_reader.c) title playback time: 00:29:
19.00  1760 sec(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 01] 00:00:00.000 , block from 0 to 92660(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 02] 00:08:08.000 , block from 92661 to 169767(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 03] 00:16:02.680 , block from 169768 to 224916
(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 04] 00:20:34.440 , block from 224917 to 285834(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 05] 00:25:23.640 , block from 285835 to 322656(dvd_reader.c) [Chapter 06] 00:28:16.480 , block from 322657 to 337848
tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy[import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null[import_dvd.so] v0.4.0 (2003-10-02) (video) DVD | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM[transcode] warning : /usr/lib/transcode/export_divx4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms[transcode] auto-probing source /dev/loop0 (ok)[transcode] V: import format    | MPEG-2 DVD PAL (V=dvd|A=null)[transcode] V: AV demux/sync    | (1) sync AV at initial MPEG sequence
[transcode] V: import frame | 720x576  1.25:1  encoded @ 4:3[transcode] V: new aspect ratio | 672x504  1.33:1 (-B)[transcode] V: clip frame (->)  | 640x496[transcode] V: bits/pixel   | 0.756
[transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,0[transcode] V: multi-pass   | (mode=1) writing data (pass 1) to divx4.log[transcode] V: Y'CbCr   | YV12/I420[transcode] A: import format    | 0x2000  AC3  [48000,16,2]
[transcode] A: export   | disabled[transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3[transcode] A: language | en[transcode] A: bytes per frame  | 7680 (7680.00)[transcode] A: adjustment   | 
[EMAIL PROTECTED][transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse (sse mmxext mmx asm C)[transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576[transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading "/usr/lib/transcode/export_divx4.so" failed
[transcode] warning : (encoder.c) loading video export module failed[transcode] warning : failed to init export modules[transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed--



Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:30:12 -0400
"Patrick Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/11/06, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:14:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched
> > > from mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up
> > > the wall...
> >
> > Ah, if it were only a rant.  The problem is that the Gnomies
> > actually feel they're in the right.
> >
> 
> I'd noticed recently that file dialogs were stupid in Firefox, but I
> hadn't realised that it was being imposed on me more generally.  I
> don't even USE Gnome, I use Xfce.  And yet now this stupid file
> dialog shows up everywhere.  Who ARE these people who think they can
> dictate what happens on my computer?  Gnomies, huh?  Well they need
> to get a clue.
> 
> Patrick

The new dialog is supplied by GTK, not GNOME, so it will show up in
XFce too. Just an advance warning ;-)

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Re: gdm fails after 3.1r2 desktop install

2006-06-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:43:19 -0500
Phil Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (My first attempt to install any Linux system so bear with me please!)
> 
> I did what appeared to be a clean installation of 3.1r2, but on first 
> startup gdm says:
> 
> GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth 
> /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
> Error: Command could not be executed!
> Please install the X server or edit /etc/gem/gem.conf to point to the 
> right place.
> 
> and then
> 
> I will disable this X server for now.
> Restart GDM when it is configured correctly.
> 
> I seem not to be the only person to have this problem. The suggestion 
> in a few other places has been to install x-window-system and 
> x-server-common and (perhaps) x-window-system-core. But apt won't let 
> me install x-window-system because it depends on a virtual (or dummy) 
> package xprt-xprintorg.
> 
> Is there a way to force an installation of x-window-system even 
> without xprt-xprintorg? Or is that even going in the right direction?
> 
> Thanks in advance-
> PH

x-window-system-core will be enough to get you going. According to

http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x-window-system-core

it does not depend on xprt-xprintorg.

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Re: price of the 3 debian cds much more expensive than what it is told on the website

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* bruno doutriaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 09:18:34 +0200]:

> what is the gui of debian sarge ?
> (graphical user interface)
> 
What do you want? You can have Gnome, KDE, Xfce, Enlightenment, Fluxbox,
Blackbox (to name a few), all of the preceding or none.  By default, if
'desktop environment' is chosen during an install, BOTH KDE and Gnome are
installed, going to a Gnome boot first time around.

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Re: Network Installation

2006-06-14 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 00:39 +0200, Miroslaw Dobrzanski-Neumann wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've tried to install sarge over netowrk but I failed to do it for the
> following reasons
> 
> Infrastructure:
> Internet access via DSL WLAN Router **ONLY WLAN* with WPA,
> The target computer uses successfully ASUS WL 138g PCI WLAN Card
> That implicats that in order to install debian the bootstraping
> process must contain the following
> 1. ndiswrapper
> 2. wpa_supplicant
> 
> None of them is included on the minimal CD. They are neither conatined on
> the first installation CDROM nor on second nor on third nor 
> 
> Because the computer has only CD ROM drive one must get about 12 CDROMS
> to get both tools and be finally able to perform network
> installation (at this stage no more needed)
> 
> I would be very glad if you could place the both tools on both the minimal
> and the first CDROM.

Hi,

Don't know about the cdrom, but there may be another solution. There is
a package "debootstrap" which basically downloads all the repositories,
puts them in a folder (for instance a seperate partition mounted
somewhere) and you can configure what you need to configure. Afterwards,
you boot that system and finish the installation.

Debootstrap needs a running Linux (Debian => maybe knoppix?) but there
are LiveCD's out there that can help you with that.

Just a suggestion

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Re: google earth error (opengl error)

2006-06-14 Thread Kumar Appaiah

On 14/06/06, Surachai Locharoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I run google earth for linux. And found the error below. I read in the
internet but not found suitable solution.

Do u have any suggestion?
I use i915 intel chipset.

ERROR!  sizeof(I830DRIRec) does not match passed size from device driver
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No



Sure. DRI isn't enabled. Check whether your kernel has the i915
module. And check that you are using the i810 Xorg/XFree86 driver,
depending on your distro, X etc.

Also, if you are using Xorg 7.0 on Debian (Etch or Sid), DRI is
broken, and I had to get the latest version at dri.freedesktop.org and
replaced the Debian package's vrsion, but I don't know whether that
bug still exists.

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Re: Setting up email [solved]

2006-06-14 Thread Søren Christensen

Quoting Søren Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


some weeks ago a had a fatal breakdown of my harddisk, I only managed to save
user-data in /home partition.

On a new computer I'm now setting email. During installation I specified
smarthost, but I cannot send mail anyway.

I recall something about entering a list of names in /etc/hosts that connects
local users with their mail-adress


not /etc/hosts
but /etc/mail-adresses

found the answer in my mail-archives.

/severino




Re: google earth error (opengl error)

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Ehn

Kumar Appaiah wrote:


Sure. DRI isn't enabled. Check whether your kernel has the i915
module. And check that you are using the i810 Xorg/XFree86 driver,
depending on your distro, X etc.

Also, if you are using Xorg 7.0 on Debian (Etch or Sid), DRI is
broken, and I had to get the latest version at dri.freedesktop.org and
replaced the Debian package's vrsion, but I don't know whether that
bug still exists.


It does. You can get CVS versions of DRI 6.5 from the experimental 
distribution. The packages you need are libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx 
and libglu1-mesa.


See bug #359328: http://bugs.debian.org/359328

That got DRI working for me on i810. I still can't run Google Earth, 
though, for some reason:


http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/447774/an/0/page/0

Please let us know if you have better luck.

Thanks,
Andreas


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Re: Setting up email

2006-06-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:42:50 +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:
>some weeks ago a had a fatal breakdown of my harddisk, I only managed
>to save user-data in /home partition.
>
>On a new computer I'm now setting email. During installation I
>specified smarthost, but I cannot send mail anyway.
>
>I recall something about entering a list of names in /etc/hosts that
>connects local users with their mail-adress
>
>Mail-adresses are not the same as user-name and this machines name.
>
>I have been  searching the archives, but didn't succeed.

Have you edited /etc/mailname?

/M

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Re: Where does Debian store packages on my local disk drive...

2006-06-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:11:25PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I've been using Debian for a few months now, but for the first time
> I've got a Debian box hooked to an internet connection. So now I can
> finally download Debian packages directly to my work box from the net,
> and software installation is much easier! :]
> 
> I've got another Debian box at home that isn't wired to the net yet.
> I'm wondering if Debian keeps a copy of the packages is autmatically
> downloads from the net during software installation, and if so where I
> would find the packages. I'd like to snag these, burn them to a CD,
> and take them home to my other Debian box. (This will save me the work
> of having to download the packages manually.)
> 
> Does Debian only download the Debs temorarily, or will I find the debs
> for the software installed on my box somewhere in the local file
> system?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott Huey
Hi Scott,
run this script on the debian system that you want to update: 
apt-get -y --print-uris upgrade|awk '{print $1}'|grep deb|cut -d\' -f2 
it will output a list of URLs that can be used in any browser to downloaded the
deb files from any computer and then can be burned to CD.  (change 'upgrade' to
'dist-upgrade' if you wish to dist-upgrade.) 
Then run:
apt-get upgrade 
once the files are transfered to the /var/cache/apt/archive directory.
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Re: Problems with slapd not starting after upgrade

2006-06-14 Thread Clive Menzies
On (13/06/06 20:22), Juliet Kemp wrote:
> I'm running testing on a Sparc box, and have just upgraded slapd to the 
> latest version (2.3.23), only to discover that it now won't start, at 
> all.  The same applies to the version in unstable, & an attempt at 
> downgrading to stable was unproductive (although differently 
> unproductive!) as well.
> 
> The relevant part of the logs are below.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a fix?
> 
> Alternatively, can anyone point me at where I could acquire the .deb of 
> the version that was being used before this one?  I don't have it in my 
> apt cache directory, unfortunately.  This would IIRC have been the last 
> of the 2.2 versions of slapd.  I seem to remember once finding a 
> comprehensive archive of .debs but Google does not seem to be helpful to 
> me on this occasion :-/
> 
> Many thanks for any help anyone can offer!  I've been fighting with this 
> for about 5 hrs now...

Try:

http://snapshot.debian.net/

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2006 #1340

2006-06-14 Thread Andy Beuth
Am Mittwoch, den 14.06.2006, 02:56 -0500 schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> E-Mail-Nachricht-Anlage
> >  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> > 
> > debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2006 : Issue 1340
> > 
> > Today's Topics:
> >   Learn about a hard drive...   [ "Redefined Horizons" 
> >  >   Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs  [ Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: OT: deleting tables from mysql u  [ Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Learn about a hard drive...   [ Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Learn about a hard drive...   [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Learn about a hard drive...   [ Ronny Aasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   MPlayer Wont Work Under Sid-2.6.16-1  [ Leonard Chatagnier <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Learn about a hard drive...   [ Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Learn about a hard drive...   [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Setting up email  [ =?iso-8859-1?b?U/hyZW4=?= 
> > Christens ]
> >   Re: System configuration profile man  [ Roberto Bernetti 
> >  >   Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks[ Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks[ Kamaraju Kusumanchi 
> >  >   google earth error (opengl error) [ Surachai Locharoen <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: price of the 3 debian cds much m  [ "bruno doutriaux" <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED] ]
> E-Mail-Nachricht-Anlage
> >  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> > Von: Redefined Horizons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: debian-user 
> > Betreff: Learn about a hard drive...
> > Datum: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:16:57 -0700
> > 
> > What bash command would I use to list information about the hard
> > drives installed on my computer?
> > 
> > I did what I needed through GNOME's disk management, which was handy,
> > but I'd like to know the old fashioned way to do it.
> > 
> > Scott Huey
> E-Mail-Nachricht-Anlage
> >  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> > Von: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Betreff: Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs
> > Datum: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:18:45 -0500
> > 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Marc Wilson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > >> It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern: For
> > >> the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using GTK-apps or
> > >> QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of premature
> > >> optimisation and such people are missing out on some truly
> > >> great software.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, while there are lots of GTK-based applications
> > > that don't necessarily require Gnome, or can be built to not
> > > require Gnome, the same thing cannot be said for QT-based
> > > applications.  I have never found that QT has wide acceptance
> > > outside the KDE community.  Exceptions are applications like
> > > scribus, but those are few and far between.
> > 
> > And now
> > 
> > $ ldd googleearth-bin | grep q
> > libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xa6d84000)
> > libqui.so.1 => /usr/lib/libqui.so.1 (0xa6d4a000)
> > 
> > It is *such* a cool app.
> > 
> > - --
> > Ron Johnson, Jr.
> > Jefferson LA  USA
> > 
> > Is "common sense" really valid?
> > For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
> > whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
> > are mud people.
> > However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux)
> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> > 
> > iD8DBQFEj5w0S9HxQb37XmcRAiwwAKCsBhhqzwnVuM8TDYgjZ73auwbtsQCfYljl
> > S3Az4b969SyP0B0L0hZ9PJA=
> > =PRjj
> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> E-Mail-Nachricht-Anlage
> >  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> > Von: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: debian users 
> > Betreff: Re: OT: deleting tables from mysql using wildcard
> > Datum: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:21:26 -0500
> > 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Kent West wrote:
> > > I have a lot of tables in a mysql database starting with "phpWeb"; I
> > > want to delete them. I can delete them one-by-one with a command like:
> > > 
> > >drop table phpWebmod_modules;
> > > 
> > > Rather than trying to delete all 20-30 similar tables, a wildcard
> > > command would be really nice hear. I've been googling for the last
> > > couple of hours, and haven't found the solution. Yes, I've tried * and %
> > > and putting the names in single-quotes, as in
> > > 
> > >drop table phpWeb%
> > >drop table phpWeb*
> > >drop table 'phpWeb*'
> > >drop table 'phpWeb%'
> > 
> > Are there compound statements in MySQL?
> > 
> > for :x as each row of
> > select table_name
> > from syscatalog
> > where sysrelation starting with 'phpWeb'
> > do
> > drop table :x.table_name cascad

apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
Hi list,

I am running Debian unstable without x, except that some console apps 
seem to require some of the x infrastructure. Lately my apt-get upgrade, 
dist-upgrade, install, and remove all seem to fail because of a package 
or two that are neither fully installed or removed. I can't seem to find 
A handle on this problem, and hope someone can suggest how to fix it, or 
how to get more info about it. 

Below are snapshots of two failed apt-get comands. The first is an 
apt-get dist-upgrade, issued after a normal apt-get update. The second 
is from the apt-get -f install command without specifying any packages.

Snapshot 1: apt-get dist-upgrade

Script started on Wed 14 Jun 2006 04:48:03 AM EDT

Reading package lists... 0%

Reading package lists... 100%

Reading package lists... Done


Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... Done

You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libice6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libsm6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libx11-6: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not installed
  libx11-data: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not installed
  libxau6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxaw7: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0) but it is not installed
  libxext6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxfixes3: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not installed
  libxft2: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not installed
  libxi6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxinerama1: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxmu6: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxpm4: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxrandr2: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxt6: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not installed
  libxv1: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxvmc1: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxxf86dga1: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
  libxxf86vm1: Depends: x11-common but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

Script done on Wed 14 Jun 2006 04:48:04 AM EDT

Snapshot 2: apt-get -f install
Script started on Wed 14 Jun 2006 04:55:13 AM EDT

Reading package lists... 0%

Reading package lists... 100%

Reading package lists... Done


Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... Done

Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  x11-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  x11-common
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/285kB of archives.
After unpacking 598kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y




Reading package fields... 0%

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Reading package status... Done

  
Retrieving bug reports... 0% [0/1]
  
Retrieving bug reports... 0% [0/1]
  
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Preconfiguring packages ...
x11-common failed to preconfigure, with exit status 1
Setting up debconf (1.5.2) ...
dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 debconf

Script done on Wed 14 Jun 2006 04:55:59 AM EDT

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 05:42:43 -0400]:

Try:
apt-get remove --purge X11-common
apt-get dist-upgrade


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Re: Where does Debian store packages on my local disk drive...

2006-06-14 Thread Joris
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 05:18 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:

>> I've got another Debian box at home that isn't wired to the net yet.

> run this script on the debian system that you want to update: 
> apt-get -y --print-uris upgrade|awk '{print $1}'|grep deb|cut -d\' -f2 
> it will output a list of URLs that can be used in any browser to downloaded 
> the
> deb files from any computer and then can be burned to CD.  (change 'upgrade' 
> to
> 'dist-upgrade' if you wish to dist-upgrade.) 
> Then run:
> apt-get upgrade 
> once the files are transfered to the /var/cache/apt/archive directory.

there is only one flaw in your solution: if his home system isn't
connected to the net, it doesn't know about any available updates.

a possible solution would be to run 'apt-get update' on a (net-wired)
system with exactly the same sources.list, burn /var/lib/apt/lists on a
CD and copy those files to the offline system. only after that will
Kevins solution work.

good luck,

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck

Hi Dave,
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:02:30PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> * Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 05:42:43 -0400]:
> 
> Try:
> apt-get remove --purge X11-common
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> 

Here is what happens when I do the remove:

Script started on Wed 14 Jun 2006 06:05:37 AM EDT

Reading package lists... 0%

Reading package lists... 100%

Reading package lists... Done


Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... Done

Package x11-common is not installed, so not removed
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libice6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libsm6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libx11-6: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be 
installed
  libx11-data: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be 
installed
  libxau6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxaw7: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0) but it is not going to be installed
  libxext6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxfixes3: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be 
installed
  libxft2: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be 
installed
  libxi6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxinerama1: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxmu6: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxpm4: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxrandr2: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxt6: PreDepends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but it is not going to be 
installed
  libxv1: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxvmc1: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxxf86dga1: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
  libxxf86vm1: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a 
solution).

Script done on Wed 14 Jun 2006 06:05:37 AM EDT


I just can't get past this point.

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selinux: audit2allow missing module

2006-06-14 Thread Bruno Costacurta


Hello,
audit2allow (from package policycoreutils) returns the following error:
 
 
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/audit2allow", line 27, in ?
import commands, sys, os, pwd, string, getopt, re, selinux
ImportError: No module named selinux
 
 
Where can I grab python module 'selinux' ?
 
Thanks for idea or correction.
Cheers,
Bruno
 

Re: price of the 3 debian cds much more expensive than what it is told on the website

2006-06-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

Ubuntu and Kubuntu are not Debian; while based on Debian, they really
are different distributions, with different goals.

The main differences are the fact that Ubuntu (and its sisters kubuntu
and edubuntu) have strict 6-month release cycles, while Debian does not;
and the fact that the default Ubuntu installation has a lot more choices
made for you already, whereas a Debian system makes less of those.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages; for example, Debian will
"release when it's ready", meaning that the release will be delayed if
there are too many bugs still open. While I don't expect that Ubuntu
will ship with many bugs, they are a bit laxer in this. Of course, that
also means that you can never tell for sure when the release will
happen, and that our release cycles typically take longer (so the
software in the latest release is, on average, older than the one in the
latest Ubuntu release).


That's what debian stable is about. You don't have new versions of 
software packages every half year to get used to.


Every software installation involves a compromise between stability (few 
updates, older, well tested software with few bugs) and fancy new stuff 
(many updates, software not as well tested, system changing often, risk 
of introducing more bugs). On this balance Debian leans more to the 
first, Ubuntu more to the second.


Ubuntu tries to provide more security (= ie, less bugs) by focussing on 
fewer packages (ie. less choice for the users).


Pick whichever suits you better! After all that's what free software is 
about.


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joris Huizer

Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

Package x11-common is not installed, so not removed


Hmm, you could try `dpkg --purge x11-common`

HTH,

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Simone Soldateschi
On 6/14/06, Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dave,On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:02:30PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:> * Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 05:42:43 -0400]:>> Try:
> apt-get remove --purge X11-common> apt-get dist-upgradeI had a similar problem two days ago trying to update 'libwx2.6-dev' from backports.'apt-get' failed package upgrade due to  unmet dependencies and I was unable to fix the problem with 'apt -f install'.
A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering defective packages..  it did the job.Now I'm doubtful: is it safe using backports? why 'apt-get -f install' did not solve the problem?
bye// SS-- "In theory, it shouldn't be that hard, but it just needs to be done"


Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
Ok, it looks like x11-common can't do anything because somethings hosed
with debconf.
Try apt-get -f install debconf, or dpkg-reconfigure debconf, and see what
happens there.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
Hi, Joris


On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:37:17PM +0200, Joris Huizer wrote:
> Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> >Package x11-common is not installed, so not removed
> 
> Hmm, you could try `dpkg --purge x11-common`

Unfortunately I get the same familiar output:

Script started on Wed 14 Jun 2006 06:38:49 AM EDT
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of x11-common:
 libxau6 depends on x11-common.
 libxt6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0).
 libxxf86vm1 depends on x11-common.
 libsm6 depends on x11-common.
 libx11-data depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0).
 libice6 depends on x11-common.
 libx11-6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0).
 libxft2 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0).
 libxaw7 depends on x11-common.
 libxmu6 depends on x11-common.
 libxfixes3 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0).
 libxi6 depends on x11-common.
 libxv1 depends on x11-common.
 libxrandr2 depends on x11-common.
 libxpm4 depends on x11-common.
 libxvmc1 depends on x11-common.
 libxext6 depends on x11-common.
 libxxf86dga1 depends on x11-common.
 libxinerama1 depends on x11-common.
 libxdmcp6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0).
dpkg: error processing x11-common (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 x11-common

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:39:07PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> Ok, it looks like x11-common can't do anything because somethings hosed
> with debconf.
> Try apt-get -f install debconf, or dpkg-reconfigure debconf, and see what
> happens there.


The apt-get -f install debconf gives me the same complaint, and the 
dpkg-reconfigure debconf says this:

hq:~# dpkg-reconfigure debconf
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: debconf is broken or not fully installed


Do I dare try to remove debconf? I better do a backup first, this is 
getting serious 


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Simone Soldateschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:36:47 +0200]:


> A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering
> defective packages..  it did the job.

Sorry.  Here, he can't do that because he isn't even running X, only some
components of it are needed for his console.  So Synaptic won't work in
this situation.

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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:


Sorry, couldnt resist

http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026



After reading this sentence in the above article

"Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done 
this before."


I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If 
someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth 
considering his opinions/rant on a new release.


Of course, you are right.

On the other hand, on updating my debian system from old-stable to 
new-stable, I also would take the approach of Jason Norwood-Young, ie. 
on a non-production system, I would just hit aptitude update; aptitude 
dist-upgrade and expect that works _without_ having to read all of the 
110-pages Installation Guide (for Debian Sarge i386).


Well, everyone knows that they should read the manual first, but who 
actually does? Especially, if one just wants to try a new release.


Johannes


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck

Hi Simone,
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:36:47PM +0200, Simone Soldateschi wrote:
> 
> I had a similar problem two days ago trying to update 'libwx2.6-dev' from
> backports.
> 'apt-get' failed package upgrade due to  unmet dependencies and I was unable
> to fix the problem with 'apt -f install'.
> A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering
> defective packages..  it did the job.
> 


I do not have synaptic installed, and can no longer install anything 
until I get this thing fixed. Catch 22! I'll keep that in mind though.

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Re: windows in xen on intel core-duo?

2006-06-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
> qemu ? yes, but not raw, you need a disc-image

Both QEMU and VMware emulate an entire computer which has its own
hardware. This means that once you boot Windows from within QEMU (it can
boot from real disks), it will need to reconfigure itself to run on
emulated hardware. And, as we all know, Windows is not really good at that.

Your best bet would be to create a disk image and install Windows there.
Sure, it will not be lightning fast, but QEMU can be quite fast if you
use the accelerator module (you will have to download and compile it
yourself).

If you are not familiar with QEMU command line options, there at least
three GUI front-ends that you might want to give a try (none of them are
in Debian):

for KDE (never tried it):
 http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kqemu/kqemu-0.3Alpha.tgz?download

for Java (needs Sun Java):
 http://exprofesso.com/jqemu/
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jqemu/jqemu-1.1.0.zip?download

for GTK (yes, that is my name on it):
 https://gna.org/projects/qemulaunch
 http://svn.gna.org/daily/qemulaunch-snapshot.tar.gz

> vmware ? probably..

It may run a little faster than QEMU, but I simply cannot recommend it,
because it is, you know, evil...

> xen ? no, there were license-issues with M$-Windows & xen

Form Xen FAQ:

 1.4. Does Xen support Microsoft Windows?

  The paravirtualized approach we use to get such high performance has
  not been usable directly for Windows to date. However Xen 3.0 added
  Intel VT-x support to enable the running of unmodified guest operating
  systems, including Windows XP & 2003 Server, using hardware
  virtualization technology. We are working on implementing support for
  the equivalent AMD Pacifica technology.

So it seems it is somewhat possible if you have the right hardware. Not
that I know how to do it...


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joris Huizer

Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

Hi, Joris


On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:37:17PM +0200, Joris Huizer wrote:


Charles Hallenbeck wrote:


Package x11-common is not installed, so not removed


Hmm, you could try `dpkg --purge x11-common`



Unfortunately I get the same familiar output:

Script started on Wed 14 Jun 2006 06:38:49 AM EDT
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of x11-common:


Now I remember, dpkg has --force-* options; try with the --force-depends 
flag, or (a bit more risky) the --force-all flag


HTH,

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Re: windows in xen on intel core-duo?

2006-06-14 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 01:56:37PM +0300, Linas Žvirblis wrote:
>  1.4. Does Xen support Microsoft Windows?
> 
>   The paravirtualized approach we use to get such high performance has
>   not been usable directly for Windows to date. However Xen 3.0 added
>   Intel VT-x support to enable the running of unmodified guest operating
>   systems, including Windows XP & 2003 Server, using hardware
>   virtualization technology. We are working on implementing support for
>   the equivalent AMD Pacifica technology.
> 
> So it seems it is somewhat possible if you have the right hardware. Not
> that I know how to do it...

As far as I know though, this would have no ability to use the
system's graphics card and thus your only way to use Windows
graphically would be by VNC or similar approach, so forget about
playing graphics-intensive games and the like.  But I could be
wrong, as I have never looked into running Windows myself.

You would be better asking these questions on the xen-users list:
http://lists.xensource.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xen-users

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 06:50:32 -0400]:

 
> 
> Do I dare try to remove debconf? I better do a backup first, this is 
> getting serious 

'Eek!' said I, and yes, do a backup.

Then, yank it out.

Then, pull debconf from the testing
repository manually and install with dpkg -i (full packagename.deb) from the
directory you put it in. 

Or, do this: add the testing repository to you /etc/apt/sources.list

apt-get update

apt-get remove --purge debconf

apt-get -t testing install debconf

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
Hi Joris,

When I add either the --force-depends or the --force-all option to the 
dpkg --purge x11-common command, they also fail to remove the package. 
When I then do an apt-get -f install, I get the same familiar failure as 
I reported earlier.

I may have to save what I can and reinstall my system, although there 
has GOT to be a better way. I am beginning to think like a Windows user, 
and I have never been one! 

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Re: gdm fails after 3.1r2 desktop install

2006-06-14 Thread Dmitri Minaev

On 6/14/06, Phil Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please install the X server or edit /etc/gem/gem.conf to point to the
right place.


I wonder, why it is gem.conf instead of gdm.conf... What if you link
/etc/gdm to /etc/gem?

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
Dave,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 06:12:29PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> * Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 06:50:32 -0400]:
> 
>  
> 'Eek!' said I, and yes, do a backup.
> 
> Then, yank it out.


Yeah, but I can't yank it out! It is not fully installed, and nothing in 
my arsenal can yank it out.
> 
> Then, pull debconf from the testing
> repository manually and install with dpkg -i (full packagename.deb) from the
> directory you put it in. 
> 
> Or, do this: add the testing repository to you /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> apt-get update
> 
> apt-get remove --purge debconf

I wish that command would work, but it will not.

> 

Ditto.

The real trouble with abandoning the problem by reinstalling my system 
from scratch is, since I don't know what caused it, I might just run 
into it again. I think I will rummage around some more before pulling 
the plug.



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Re: selinux: audit2allow missing module

2006-06-14 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
Þann 2006-06-14, 12:22:27 (+0200) skrifaði Bruno Costacurta:
> Hello,
> audit2allow (from package policycoreutils) returns the following error:
> 
>  
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/audit2allow", line 27, in ?
> import commands, sys, os, pwd, string, getopt, re, selinux
> ImportError: No module named selinux
>  
>  
> Where can I grab python module 'selinux' ?

A simple apt-cache search selinux on my machine (unstable version)
showed the following package which I suppose is what you want:

python2.4-selinux

if you are running stable or testing instead then you might get
another version number then 2.4

HTH

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joris Huizer
just thinking aloud, maybe `apt-get --reinstall install debconf` could 
help out on debconf, and then also on x11-common... I hope?


HTH,

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joris Huizer
one more note, in case you have aptitude installed, you may try using 
that, too, as it is known to be handle conflicts and brakage slightly 
different from apt-get; The interactive interface can show what is 
broken and such

(just calling out a few suggestions now)

HTH,

Joris


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Printing IRC channel

2006-06-14 Thread Roger Leigh
For anyone wanting help with setting up or using printing-related
stuff on Debian, or for help with problems, I've created a
#debian-printing IRC channel on irc.debian.org.  This might also be
useful for development.

This isn't intended to be a substitute for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or for the bug tracking system, but
it might find its own niche.  I thought it might be useful, so I'll
see how it pans out over the next month or so.

If you have any printing expertise, please join and help!


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:40:03AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> The new dialog is supplied by GTK, not GNOME, so it will show up in
> XFce too. Just an advance warning ;-)

Ah, but who do you think controls GTK now?  Hint... it ain't the GIMP
people.

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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Juergen Erhard
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 03:27:38AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:
> > Sorry, couldnt resist
> >
> > http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026
> 
> After reading this sentence in the above article
> 
> "Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done 
> this before."
> 
> I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If 
> someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth 
> considering his opinions/rant on a new release.

I disagree.  It all depends on the target audience.  If you target those of
little technical inclination, then an upgrade path that requires reading
upgrade notes for *important* things, is not really a good idea.

And generally, here's hoping DD's don't treat bug reports the same way
(sadly, some do).

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gnome upgrade

2006-06-14 Thread Paras pradhan
hi all:I have a desktop system in which gnome 2.10 is running absoultely fine. I have installed it using etch repoistory around 4 months back. Now i see there is gnome 2.14 in etch. I want to know how do i upgrade only gnome core files from my 
2.10 to 2.14 without upgrading my other applications. is apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment is the right solution or there is another way.ThanksParas.


Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 13:58:57 +0200]:

> one more note, in case you have aptitude installed, you may try using 
> that, too, as it is known to be handle conflicts and brakage slightly 
> different from apt-get; The interactive interface can show what is 
> broken and such

Good idea - aptitude's installed by default in most systems...

My wife's calling...

back in a bit.
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SOLVED(sort of): OT: deleting tables from mysql using wildcard

2006-06-14 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> >> I have a lot of tables in a mysql database starting with "phpWeb"; I
> >> want to delete them. I can delete them one-by-one with a command like:
> >>
> >>drop table phpWebmod_modules;
> >>
> >> Rather than trying to delete all 20-30 similar tables, a wildcard
> >> command would be really nice hear. I've been googling for the last
> >> couple of hours, and haven't found the solution. Yes, I've tried *
> and %
> >> and putting the names in single-quotes, as in
> >>
> >>drop table phpWeb%
> >>drop table phpWeb*
> >>drop table 'phpWeb*'
> >>drop table 'phpWeb%'
>
> Are there compound statements in MySQL?
>
> for :x as each row of
> select table_name
> from syscatalog
> where sysrelation starting with 'phpWeb'
> do
> drop table :x.table_name cascade;
> end for;

I'm not a MySQL person; this is my first semi-significant foray into it.
So I'm unsure about the compound statements.

However, I solved my problem (with way more work than should have been)
by exporting the table list.

I created a text file, "bub.sh":
use joomla_church;
show tables;
quit

I then ran "mysql -p < bub.sh > bub.results". This created a text file
"bub.results" containing my list of tables. I then manually edited (with
some automation - search/replace) taking out  the references to
non-phpWeb tables, etc; the resulting file looked something like:

use joomla_church;
drop table phpWebmod_modules;
drop table phpWeb_blah;
.
. 
.
drop table phpWeb_lastitem;

I then fed that back into mysql with "mysql -p < bub.results". Because I
had a typo (missing semi-colon, etc) here and there, I wound up having
to run this command 5 or 6 times (correcting a bit everytime), but I
eventually cleaned out all my tables.

Not as much work as it could have been; way more than it should have
been. A simple "drop table phpWeb*" would have been SO much easier. Oh,
well, that's a mysql issue, not Debian. I appreciate not getting flamed
for asking an off-topic question here; I only do so 'cause you folks are
the best resource on the web generally.

Thanks!

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Public build servers for Debian/Ubuntu packages?

2006-06-14 Thread Magnus Therning
Does anyone know if there's a service where I can upload my Debian
source packages that will attempt to compile them for other .deb
distros and let me download the results?

Specifically I want to take a few source packages and get Ubuntu
(Breezy/Dapper) packages out. It'd be great to get Sarge packages as
well.

/M

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 07:43:57 -0400]:

 
> Yeah, but I can't yank it out! It is not fully installed, and nothing in 
> my arsenal can yank it out.

Ok,then:
Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.postinst
and see what's in that file-perhaps we can hack a fix from there.  The
postinstall script is what messed it up, and it's a hard hang.

Once we get that sorted out, we'll file a bug report with the maintainer,
but s/he has to know what the problem is...

> I think I will rummage around some more before pulling 
> the plug.
> 
I like rummaging.  I sometimes find pretty girls and free beer that way...
remember, it's only a bug, not a system-wide disaster.
> 
> -- 
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> Get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
>   and remember, INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE!



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Re: SOLVED(sort of): OT: deleting tables from mysql using wildcard

2006-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
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Kent West wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Kent West wrote:
[snip]
> Not as much work as it could have been; way more than it should
> have been. A simple "drop table phpWeb*" would have been SO much
> easier. Oh, well, that's a mysql issue, not Debian. I appreciate
> not getting flamed for asking an off-topic question here; I only
> do so 'cause you folks are the best resource on the web
> generally.

If it were to follow standard globbing rules, then you'd have
DROP TABLE FOO_1 FOO_2 FOO_3 etc etc

Definitely a syntax error...

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deleting rivafb

2006-06-14 Thread hendrik
Trying to set up my AMD64 with the 2.6.15 kernel.
When I compile the nvidia kernel modules, it tells me that
they are incompatible with the rivafb functionality, and I have to 
disable this in the kernel (which is a stock Debian kernel) before I can 
use them.

How do I go about this?  Presumably some entry in some configuration 
file?

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Re: Learn about a hard drive...

2006-06-14 Thread Dimitar Vukman
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:16:57 -0700
"Redefined Horizons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What bash command would I use to list information about the hard
> drives installed on my computer?

What comes to my mind is:

1.
su to become root
fdisk -l 

2. 
cat /etc/fstab

3. 
read other replies :)


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Re: deleting rivafb

2006-06-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
> When I compile the nvidia kernel modules, it tells me that
> they are incompatible with the rivafb functionality, and I have to 
> disable this in the kernel (which is a stock Debian kernel) before I can 
> use them.

If it is built as a module (and I guess it is), that is really easy.

> How do I go about this?  Presumably some entry in some configuration 
> file?

Yes, see "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist". Just add rivafb module to the
list, and reboot. It should not be used anymore.


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CUPS + printer configuration override from clients

2006-06-14 Thread Eugen Wintersberger
Hi there, 
I Debian (testing) on our server together with Windows and Ubuntu
Clients.
Since some time my users cannot change from non-duplex to duplex
printing. If duplex printing is switched on for a certain printer 
on the CUPS server the printer will always print double sided no matter 
if I deactivate duplex printing on the clients printer dialog or not. 
I have to problem on the Windows as well as on the Linux clients. 
It was always possible to override the duplex printing configuration on
the server by the clients printing dialog. 

Has anyone an idea what could cause this problem?

thanks 
  Eugen




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Re: CUPS + printer configuration override from clients

2006-06-14 Thread Roger Leigh
Eugen Wintersberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Since some time my users cannot change from non-duplex to duplex
> printing. If duplex printing is switched on for a certain printer 
> on the CUPS server the printer will always print double sided no matter 
> if I deactivate duplex printing on the clients printer dialog or not. 
> I have to problem on the Windows as well as on the Linux clients. 
> It was always possible to override the duplex printing configuration on
> the server by the clients printing dialog. 
>
> Has anyone an idea what could cause this problem?

You'll need to provide much more detail, such as:

- the make and model of printer
- the PPD for the printer (/etc/cups/ppd/printername)
- check if the duplex option is set in the printer configuration
- set LogLevel to debug in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, reload CUPS and then
  print a job with duplex enabled.  Then look through
  /var/log/cups/error_log (and show it to us; you might need to bzip2
  it).

I've CC'd the printing list for you.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: Public build servers for Debian/Ubuntu packages?

2006-06-14 Thread Bradley Alexander
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 14:39 +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's a service where I can upload my Debian
> source packages that will attempt to compile them for other .deb
> distros and let me download the results?
> 
> Specifically I want to take a few source packages and get Ubuntu
> (Breezy/Dapper) packages out. It'd be great to get Sarge packages as
> well.


I believe I heard that SuSE had something like this. I heard about it on
a podcast...I thought that it was pretty community-minded of them
because they said they were intentionally allowing other distros to use
them too, including Debian.

http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?id=570
http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service

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Re: CUPS + printer configuration override from clients

2006-06-14 Thread Eugen Wintersberger
Sorry 
  I meant 

I have Debian (testing) .

and that 

my users cannot change from duplex to  non-duplex printing.

One should not do five things at the same time.

Eugen

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 16:35 +0200, Eugen Wintersberger wrote:
> Hi there, 
> I Debian (testing) on our server together with Windows and Ubuntu
> Clients.
> Since some time my users cannot change from non-duplex to duplex
> printing. If duplex printing is switched on for a certain printer 
> on the CUPS server the printer will always print double sided no matter 
> if I deactivate duplex printing on the clients printer dialog or not. 
> I have to problem on the Windows as well as on the Linux clients. 
> It was always possible to override the duplex printing configuration on
> the server by the clients printing dialog. 
> 
> Has anyone an idea what could cause this problem?
> 
> thanks 
>   Eugen
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Fwd: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgi

2006-06-14 Thread Rocky Ou
-- Forwarded message --From: Rocky Ou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Jun 6, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgiTo: Jiann-Ming Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 6/6/06, Jiann-Ming Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/5/06, Rocky Ou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
>y machine support the cgi please> ? Any hint will be highly appreciated!>>  Thanks a lot in advance
>Search for "cgi-bin" in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file.--
Jiann-Ming Su, thanks very much  for your hint! I find the line and comment it out as following:

#
# To use CGI scripts outside /cgi-bin/:
#
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
#
Well after that I got the following error:

#
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /~lover/mytest.cgi
on this server.


Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.4.2-1+b1 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at localhost Port 80

Though I've did chmod 777  mytest.cgi.

Can anybody help me please?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Rocky






Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joey Hess
Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Retrieving bug reports... Done
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> x11-common failed to preconfigure, with exit status 1
> Setting up debconf (1.5.2) ...
> dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  debconf

Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.config and
/var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.postinst and add a new line as the second
line of each script:

set -e

Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
what's really wrong.

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Re: System configuration profile manager

2006-06-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

Roberto Bernetti wrote:
Thank for the hint. SCPM can manage printing and video too I wonder if is 
there anything more similar.


I'm not using those tools too heavily, but some of them (laptop-net, 
IIRC) support scripts to run, when a network is 'entered' or 'left'. You 
 can easily script something like


cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-home /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
/etc/init.d/kdm restart

etc. or whatever you use.

One of the nice surprises, when I switched from Suse to debian, was the 
fact that debian's default settings automatically detect all my network 
printers. So this has since been a 'non-configuration' for me.


Johannes


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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Bill Thompson
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:52:06 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, everyone knows that they should read the manual first, but who 
> actually does? Especially, if one just wants to try a new release.

And especially if the Distro you are using is meant to be "User
Friendly". 

I don't want to start a flame war, but I've been extremely
disappointed with Kubuntu Dapper. The distro seems to be very buggy
after the upgrade from Breezy, some prorams (k3b in particular) have
reduced functionality from the previous version, and so far the Ubuntu
team does not appear to be addressing bug reports submitted in their
proprietary "Launchpad" service. This version should have kicked Ubuntu
over the top as the premiere Linux distro for end users, but it seems
to have fallen flat.
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logcheck vs postfix/mysql

2006-06-14 Thread Lars
Hi

I'm trying add new rules to logcheck, but as soon as it get dynamic
my new rules fails. For instance whenever postfix checks
user/password in my mysql-table, it's written i the log and i get a
mail. Here i tried to add new rules, but only the static works.

# Extras - Mysql Connection
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
auxprop plugin using mysql engine
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
plugin try and connect to a host
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
plugin trying to open db '[A-Za-z0-9_-]' on host
'[0-9].[0-9].[0-9].[0-9]'
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: begin
transaction
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
plugin create statement from userPassword [A-Za-z0-9_-] smtp.mailfx.dk
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
plugin doing query select [A-Za-z0-9_-] from [A-Za-z_-] where
username='[A-Za-z0-9_-]';
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: sql
plugin create statement from cmusaslsecretCRAM-MD5 [A-Za-z0-9_-]
smtp.mailfx.dk
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ postfix/smtpd\[[0-9]+\]: commit
transaction

And in syslog it's mentioned every DDNS added to the zone-files and
i get a mail.

Jun  6 02:00:50 main dhcpd: if MacMini.utysket.dk. IN TXT
"314f3e7ee90c473da0b3ebb4619f97e60f" rrset exists and
MacMini.utysket.dk. IN A 172.16.0.19 rrset exists delete
MacMini.utysket.dk. IN A 172.16.0.19: success.
Jun  6 02:00:50 main dhcpd: if MacMini.utysket.dk. IN A rrset
doesn't exist delete MacMini.utysket.dk. IN TXT
"314f3e7ee90c473da0b3ebb4619f97e60f": success.
Jun  6 02:00:50 main dhcpd: removed reverse map on
19.0.16.172.in-addr.arpa.

BTW is it regular exprisions that is being used? And what if i want
to add a new service to the "logcheck/ignore.d.server" directory. Do
i just add a new txt-file and it will be included at once? So if
anyone can help me with creating new rules, i would me very happy...

Thanks in advance...


/Lars


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread John Miller
Why not just keep x11-common?  It looks like a whole ton of X libraries
are already installed.  Otherwise, figure out which programs depend on
each individual library, either by dpkg --show , or by
trying to remove each library individually.

Up until a month or two ago (when I gave it away), I ran a console-only
laptop (sarge, however) that ran into these issues from time to time. 
I'm just now checking e-mail and saw the words 'reinstall' float by



Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Hi Joris,
>
> When I add either the --force-depends or the --force-all option to the 
> dpkg --purge x11-common command, they also fail to remove the package. 
> When I then do an apt-get -f install, I get the same familiar failure as 
> I reported earlier.
>
> I may have to save what I can and reinstall my system, although there 
> has GOT to be a better way. I am beginning to think like a Windows user, 
> and I have never been one! 
>
> Chuck
>
>   


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:

:
> 
> set -e
> 
> Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
> what's really wrong.
> 
This will tell you where in the script it's exiting...

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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Gustavo Franco

On 6/14/06, Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry, couldnt resist

http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026



Hi Brent,

Since the author made a lot of wrong points about the Debian project,
release cycle and distribution i wrote this blog entry (as seen on
planet.debian.org):
http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com/2006/06/tectonic-verdict-it-sucks.html#links

regards,
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Message-ID Suffix Change Mozilla Thunderbird

2006-06-14 Thread Anthony Simonelli
I'm using Mozilla-Thunderbird with my MS Exchange IMAP
server at work.  When I send an email to the Internet,
my Postfix MTA gives the following message:

forged name in Message-ID: header: 

and rejects the email.  I've successfully sent email
from Kmail by changing the Message-ID Suffix in the
Composing settings but I can't find a similar setting
with Thunderbird.  Any ideas?  Maybe found in about:config?


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread John Miller
Apologies for not reading the original message closely enough.  I got
stuck on the 'x11-common' part and didn't pay enough attention to the
debconf error.

If debconf is having trouble, that's really weird.  Perhaps doing a dpkg
-r debconf, then doing a clean reinstall of debconf?  Using wget to
download a fresh .deb of debconf and installing with dpkg -i? 
Reinstalling from your /var/cache/apt/archives?  dpkg-reconfigure
debconf?  I know that there is a reinstall option to apt  That's
about all I know at this point.

--John



John Miller wrote:
> Why not just keep x11-common?  It looks like a whole ton of X libraries
> are already installed.  Otherwise, figure out which programs depend on
> each individual library, either by dpkg --show , or by
> trying to remove each library individually.
>
> Up until a month or two ago (when I gave it away), I ran a console-only
> laptop (sarge, however) that ran into these issues from time to time. 
> I'm just now checking e-mail and saw the words 'reinstall' float by
>
>
>
> Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
>   
>> Hi Joris,
>>
>> When I add either the --force-depends or the --force-all option to the 
>> dpkg --purge x11-common command, they also fail to remove the package. 
>> When I then do an apt-get -f install, I get the same familiar failure as 
>> I reported earlier.
>>
>> I may have to save what I can and reinstall my system, although there 
>> has GOT to be a better way. I am beginning to think like a Windows user, 
>> and I have never been one! 
>>
>> Chuck
>>
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>> 
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Re: Fwd: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgi

2006-06-14 Thread John Miller
What do the server logs say?  The /var/log/apache2 directory, for
instance?  What user is your web server running as?  Can you view
regular HTML files placed in the /~lover/mytest.cgi directory?

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>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Rocky Ou* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Date: Jun 6, 2006 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Debian sarge 3.1\apache2 not surpport cgi
> To: Jiann-Ming Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>
>
>
> On 6/6/06, *Jiann-Ming Su* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> On 6/5/06, Rocky Ou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >
> >y machine support the cgi please
> > ? Any hint will be highly appreciated!
> >
> >  Thanks a lot in advance
> >
>
> Search for "cgi-bin" in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file.
>
> --
>
>
> Jiann-Ming Su, thanks very much  for your hint! I find the line and
> comment it out as following:
>
> #
> # To use CGI scripts outside /cgi-bin/:
> #
> AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
> #
> Well after that I got the following error:
>
> #
>
>
>   Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access /~lover/mytest.cgi on this server.
>
> 
> Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.4.2-1+b1
> mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at localhost Port 80
> 
> Though I've did chmod 777  mytest.cgi.
>
> Can anybody help me please?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Rocky
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dvd movie playing

2006-06-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all the debian listers.

In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:

 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/

the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
by hand.
1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
I have Debian Sarge.

Thanks for any reply,
Rodolfo


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Re: dvd movie playing

2006-06-14 Thread Vitaliy Ischenko
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:25:06 +0200
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all the debian listers.
> 
> In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:
> 
>  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/
> 
> the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
> by hand.
> 1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb
if you will see errors about dependency problems run "apt-get -f install"
> 2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
> I have Debian Sarge.
> 
> Thanks for any reply,
> Rodolfo
P.S. debian-marillat has moved to  http://www.debian-multimedia.org
P.P.S. If you want to install packages from debian-multimedia with apt-get add
"deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main"
to file /etc/apt/sources.list
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Re: dvd movie playing

2006-06-14 Thread Wackojacko

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Hi all the debian listers.

In order to play dvd movies, I downloaded from:

 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/

the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb, and want to install it
by hand.
1) How to do so? `apt-get' doesn't do the job.
2) Will that package be enough to play dvd movies (e.g., with totem)?
I have Debian Sarge.

Thanks for any reply,
Rodolfo




dpkg -i  should work, but it would be better to add 
marillat repository to your sources list and use apt-get in order to 
satisfy dependencies.


HTH

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How to find play length of .ogg file using python?

2006-06-14 Thread Marc Shapiro
I am writing a program using pygame to play musical sound cues.  I need 
a way to determine the play length of a sound file.  I can get the 
length of .mp3 files with python-pymad.  I have also installed 
python-pyogg and python-pyvorbis.  It seems that I should be able to get 
the length of .ogg files with one of these packages, but the 
documentation and examples do not show how.


I have googled for these packages and basically have found that 
documentation does not seem to exist, yet.  It was suggesated to check 
the docs for libvorbis, but I haven't been able to find this, either.


The output of VorbisFile.info() seems to be an object with various 
attributes, probably including the play length, but the only attributes 
shown in the example are channels and rate.  The module is a .so file, 
so I can not look at python source to determine the other attributes and 
I would rather not have to download C source code and plow through 
that.  Is there a list of the attributes for this object, somewhere?


Can anyone give me an easy way to find the play length of an .ogg file, 
or point me to where the documentation exists.


TIA

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 23:57 +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:
> 
> :
> > 
> > set -e
> > 
> > Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
> > what's really wrong.
> > 
> This will tell you where in the script it's exiting...

Seeing as Joey Hess has a big hand in debconf and many other critical
packages, he wants to see what is really wrong, because the script may
exit in a completely different area than where the script hits the bad
function/command/typo.

Chuck needs to have a large scrollback and paste it to here for us to
understand the entire functional problem.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
Hi Joey,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:21:32PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> 
> Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.config and
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.postinst and add a new line as the second
> line of each script:
> 
> set -e
> 
> Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
> what's really wrong.
> 

The first of those files, x11-common.config, does not exist, and the 
other one, debconf.postinst, already has set -e on the second line.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 06:55 -0400, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Hi Simone,
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:36:47PM +0200, Simone Soldateschi wrote:
> > 
> > I had a similar problem two days ago trying to update 'libwx2.6-dev' from
> > backports.
> > 'apt-get' failed package upgrade due to  unmet dependencies and I was unable
> > to fix the problem with 'apt -f install'.
> > A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering
> > defective packages..  it did the job.
> > 
> 
> 
> I do not have synaptic installed, and can no longer install anything 
> until I get this thing fixed. Catch 22! I'll keep that in mind though.

There is always dpkg-deb

dpkg-deb -X /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%
3a7.0.20_i386.deb /

That will extract and make certain things usable until you can get the
packages correctly installed. Personally I have saved a couple of
peoples machines this way. One fixing an upgrade from Breezy Badger to
Dapper Duck (being of course Ubuntu)... but I digress.

Use of these commands is exceptionally "use at your own risk of blowing
up your machines config, with no sympathy from anyone". So use caution.

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Re: gnome upgrade

2006-06-14 Thread Vitaliy Ischenko
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:17:22 +0545
"Paras pradhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi all:
> 
> I have a desktop system in which gnome 2.10 is running absoultely fine. I
> have installed it using etch repoistory around 4 months back. Now i see
> there is gnome 2.14 in etch. I want to know how do i upgrade only gnome core
> files from my 2.10 to 2.14 without upgrading my other applications. is
> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment is the right solution or there is
> another way.
> 
> 
> Thanks
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
The strange problem of the "not fully installed or removed" packages I 
have been reporting has been resolved, but I do not understand it.

It seems that a short while ago I have switched shells from bash to zsh 
to explore its new features. I did it gradually, first doing a usermod 
for each of my accounts to make /bin/zsh the login shell, then after 
hammering out an agreeable configuration, changing the symbolic link 
/bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash. 

After looking at those files in /var/lib/dpkg/info mentioned by Dave and 
Joey, I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, re-ran apt-get -f 
install successfully, then ran apt-get upgrade also successfully, and I 
have a resolved system.

But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went 
without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of 
the current problem.

It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think. And I 
am nervous about trying to replicate the problem. So what do I do? give 
up zsh? 

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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 15:16 +0200, Juergen Erhard wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 03:27:38AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote:
> > > Sorry, couldnt resist
> > >
> > > http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026
> > 
> > After reading this sentence in the above article
> > 
> > "Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done 
> > this before."
> > 
> > I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If 
> > someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth 
> > considering his opinions/rant on a new release.
> 
> I disagree.  It all depends on the target audience.  If you target those of
> little technical inclination, then an upgrade path that requires reading
> upgrade notes for *important* things, is not really a good idea.

So, since GNOME in general is targeting Windows Users, you are saying
that Windows Users just Upgrade all willy nilly and never get burn't?

I have some very catastrophic news for, Average Joe Six-pack Windows
users just go ahead and upgrade to newer versions of windows. Many,
Many, Many of them lose everything and have to re-format and re-install.

Then they can;t get it to work because they don't have drivers for that
new fangled Disk controller supplied with Windows. They then bring the
machine to "Best Buy's Geek Squad" and get charged $300 to re-format and
reload Windows. Even if there was software pre-installed on the machine,
they will not get it back with the R&R.

I have to say, your assumption that any upgrade HAS to go perfect even
for important things, is far from what *IS* happening in the Windows
World Right NOW. Sure, Linux would be nice. But in the long run,
technical knowledge or at least the ability to comprehend what a dialog
says will be and fully is needed to successfully upgrade you OS on your
machine.

We can draw the analogy about computers and cars, Where Windows upgrade
on a computer, would be akin to putting a really different and much more
complicated Engine and transmission in the car. Which one would you
expect to read the manual? Me? I'd expect both. But then I'd also expect
to have to fix many cars with "upgrade" problems, just like I fix many
computers with upgrade problems.

> And generally, here's hoping DD's don't treat bug reports the same way
> (sadly, some do).

Some DDs don't even acknowledge/close a fixed bug, 3-4 years after its
been fixed.
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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 6/13/06, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern:
> For the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using
> GTK-apps or QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of
> premature optimisation and such people are missing out on
> some truly great software.

Unfortunately, while there are lots of GTK-based applications that don't
necessarily require Gnome, or can be built to not require Gnome, the same
thing cannot be said for QT-based applications.  I have never found that QT
has wide acceptance outside the KDE community.  Exceptions are applications
like scribus, but those are few and far between.


Don't forget Psi (psi-im.org). Of course I don't know exactly how many people
use it, but it seems to be fairly popular.


Starting a Gnome application ends up starting up gconfd, maybe loading a
comple libraries.  Starting a KDE application leaves you with all sorts of
crap running, that doesn't go away.  Thank you, but I don't need kdeinit
hanging around.


I used to get that problem (kdeinit hanging around), but I don't anymore.
I guess it was fixed in some upgrade.


Finally, I have never seen a KDE app that was worth bothering with.  I'm
sure that someone will throw up k3b, but I'm not about to install all of
KDE just so that I can burn CD's.  I found k3b's cutesy-poo interface
completely off-putting the one time I actually messed with it.


Well, I will mention k3b. And Amarok, Koffice, Quanta+ and Konq
(which is not my main browser or file manager, but still pretty nice).
But to each their own :-)


Of course, there are very few Gnome applications that're worth bothering
with, either.


Evince is the only one I can think of, but I haven't tried F-Spot (I don't
have any photos to speak of), or Epiphany (looks nice, although it
couldn't pull me away from Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Rhythmbox and
Totem seem like they will be good (but not great) if they can fix
the crashing problems they had last time I tried them.

I think both the actual desktops look great, but I get less distracted
when I use boring old Fluxbox (and FB has tabs).

And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.

Cheers,
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Charles Hallenbeck
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 02:26:18PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 23:57 +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
> > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:
> > 
> 
> Chuck needs to have a large scrollback and paste it to here for us to
> understand the entire functional problem.
> 

I have had good luck using "script" to capture as much output as 
necessary. If someone would like to tell me what to run, I'll be happy 
to generate output. But I sure don't want to put my system to risk, now 
that it is resolved.

I have not seen my mail describing the resolution of the problem yet. 
Turns out to be a problem of dueling shells, zsh vs. bash.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Michael Marsh

On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.


Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

2006-06-14 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 10:51, Charles Hallenbeck wrote (edited):
> changing the symbolic link
> /bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash.
>
> I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, [ran apt commands
> successfully 
>
> But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went
> without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of
> the current problem.
>
> It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think. And I
> am nervous about trying to replicate the problem. So what do I do? give
> up zsh?

I believe the issue is that /bin/sh is expected to be a bourne shell, or at 
least closely compatible.  zsh, "most closely resembles ksh but includes many 
enhancements."  ksh has "command language [that is ] is a superset of the 
sh(1) shell language."  While this means, in theory, ksh should do everything 
sh would do, there might be expected behaviors that zsh (which "resembles" 
ksh) does not live up to.

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nvidiia kernel patch with the 2.6.15-486 kernel

2006-06-14 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Hi all,

I think the kernel number in the subject line is the correct one.  
Anyway, it's the kernel for an AMD 64 cpu with the 32 bit version of 
Etch installed.  What I'm looking to do is install the kernel patch with 
module-assistant but it tells me there is no kernel source for any such 
kernel. 

Has anyone done this?  I have used this same kernel on my laptop and an 
ATI video card, but am definitely having problems getting an nVidia card 
to run with this same kernel on a desktop system.


Gary


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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
> file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
> I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
> me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
> and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.

Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.


Oh yeah, I always forget about that because SeaMonkey has a
non-GTK path field for that (you can click on the "Chose" button
and get the GTK picker, but why would you, unless you forgot the
path or the name?). Yeah, the "waiting on /usr/bin isssue" is bad
and needs to be fixed.

Cheers,
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Re: How to find play length of .ogg file using python?

2006-06-14 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:19:08AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I am writing a program using pygame to play musical sound cues.  I need 
> a way to determine the play length of a sound file.  I can get the 
> length of .mp3 files with python-pymad.  I have also installed 
> python-pyogg and python-pyvorbis.  It seems that I should be able to get 
> the length of .ogg files with one of these packages, but the 
> documentation and examples do not show how.
> 
> I have googled for these packages and basically have found that 
> documentation does not seem to exist, yet.  It was suggesated to check 
> the docs for libvorbis, but I haven't been able to find this, either.
> 
> The output of VorbisFile.info() seems to be an object with various 
> attributes, probably including the play length, but the only attributes 
> shown in the example are channels and rate.  The module is a .so file, 
> so I can not look at python source to determine the other attributes and 
> I would rather not have to download C source code and plow through 
> that.  Is there a list of the attributes for this object, somewhere?
> 
> Can anyone give me an easy way to find the play length of an .ogg file, 
> or point me to where the documentation exists.

I would take a look at the source for the 'ogginfo' command, or if
performance is not important, just parse its output:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/digbyt> ogginfo /home/digbyt/work2/...
  filename=/home/digbyt/work2/localize/testdata/alphabet.ogg
  header_integrity=pass
  stream_integrity=pass
  file_truncated=false
  version=0
  channels=1
  bitrate_upper=-1000
  bitrate_nominal=128000
  bitrate_lower=-1000
  bitrate_average=84458
  length=59.443084
  playtime=0:59


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Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks

2006-06-14 Thread Gustavo Franco

On 6/14/06, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(...)
Some DDs don't even acknowledge/close a fixed bug, 3-4 years after its
been fixed.


It's of course not in the Debian's best practices list and you're
welcome to help us fixing the problem sending a summary to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you've submitted them that's not always
up to the developer close the bug, but to the user really.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Marsh wrote:
> Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
> you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
> /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
> typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
> to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
> laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.

Hmm, on my 1.3 ghz laptop it was under 2 tenths of a second (from dry
cache).

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upgrade only if installed

2006-06-14 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the package is 
not already installed, I would not want it to be installed. Is this possible? 

Currently when I use

apt-get install 

apt-get does not distinguish between whether the package has already been 
installed or not. Is there any other program which distinguishes between the 
two?

thanks
raju

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changing user id for all files in a file system

2006-06-14 Thread Johannes Zellner
Hello,

is there a simple and fast way to change the user id for all files in
the file system, say from 1234 to 5000?

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Toshiro
> > > Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from
> > > mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
> >
> > Ah, if it were only a rant.  The problem is that the Gnomies actually
> > feel they're in the right.
>
> I'd noticed recently that file dialogs were stupid in Firefox, but I hadn't
> realised that it was being imposed on me more generally.  I don't even USE
> Gnome, I use Xfce.  And yet now this stupid file dialog shows up
> everywhere.  Who ARE these people who think they can dictate what happens
> on my computer?  Gnomies, huh?  Well they need to get a clue.

I'm using konqueror since I've found that nasty file dialog (that crap didn't 
even allow me to download in my own home directory, it forced me to use 
Desktop (?) folder).  The only thing I really missed from firefox is 
Tabbrowser extension, hopefully konqueror developers will add some similar 
functionalities in konqueror :)

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Re: upgrade only if installed

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:00:19PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the package is 
> not already installed, I would not want it to be installed. Is this possible? 

There's probably a nice prepackaged way to do it, but you
could first look through the output of
'dpkg --get-selections' for any packages with the specified
name that are installed. So for instance, if you want to
upgrade firefox only if it's installed, you could do

dpkg --get-selections |grep -v 'deinstall\|purge' | cut -f1 |grep '^firefox$'

Using '^firefox$' prevents the command from matching
packages with firefox in their name, like
firefox-gnome-support.

That command will return 0 if it finds anything, 1 if it
doesn't. That should get you on your way.

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Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs

2006-06-14 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:33 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
> > > file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
> > > I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
> > > me much. Of course, I also usually just download to ~/Downloads
> > > and if it needs moved, I move it from the command line.
> >
> > Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
> > you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
> > /usr/bin.  Unless they've fixed that recently.  I really don't like
> > typing "/usr/bin/xine" and then waiting a minute for the "OK" button
> > to become clickable.  Well, perhaps not a full minute, but on a 1GHz
> > laptop it's an excruciatingly long wait nonetheless.
> 
> Oh yeah, I always forget about that because SeaMonkey has a
> non-GTK path field for that (you can click on the "Chose" button
> and get the GTK picker, but why would you, unless you forgot the
> path or the name?). Yeah, the "waiting on /usr/bin isssue" is bad
> and needs to be fixed.
> 

I run Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) here (shame on me :)) and it takes long to
load indeed, but I can select the app and click the "open" button while
the contents are loading. This is in Gnome 2.12.1.

Regards

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote:
> set -e

Of course that should have been -x, the point being to see where the
script is failing.

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Re: changing user id for all files in a file system

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:02:43PM +0200, Johannes Zellner wrote:
> is there a simple and fast way to change the user id for all files in
> the file system, say from 1234 to 5000?

sudo find / -uid [old UID] |xargs -i sudo chown [new UID] '{}'

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Sound with ATI IXP150 AC'97

2006-06-14 Thread Nicolas Sabouret
Hi all,

I use debian etch on my Compaq laptop and I don't understand how the sound
card works. I installer alsa packages, the sound card was detected and
some applications (like gcompris) work perfectly.
However, most other sound application (e.g. esd) don't work. It appears
that the system has no /dev/dsp or /dev/audio device (even after a
MAKEDEV).

I really don't understand what the hell is going on. Can anybody help me
solve this issue or give me any hint ?

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MP3s from an analog signal ?

2006-06-14 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
needs Windoze for.

We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
shell script on his Sarge box.

According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.

But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.

Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
file and turn it into an MP3?
Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.


Cameron



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Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images

2006-06-14 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache
file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4
to 2.6.16 and everything in between.  Aptitude removed
a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could
blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not
there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that
would remove all the linux-images and leave just the
2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone
telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back
int my cache files so I can pick the one I want
instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed.

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Re: MP3s from an analog signal ?

2006-06-14 Thread Wackojacko

Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

A friend of mine uses a "user friendly" Windoze box
to record (with permission) radio shows in background,
on a predetermined schedule.  It's the last thing he still
needs Windoze for.

We'd like to replace that setup with a cron-driven
shell script on his Sarge box.

According to the Linux Sound HOWTO, which seems unmaintained,
I can get raw samples from /dev/dsp0 with dd.  This works
on about half the sound cards/motherboards I've tried.
I suspect the rest have some kind of mixer issue, or
maybe the codecs just aren't wired right on those motherboards.

But once we have that raw samples file, we don't know how
to make a usable MP3 out of it.  Searching with Google,
I find a lot of people asking the same question, and people
barking one-word "answers" at them, that don't lead anywhere.

Is there anything in Debian that can take a raw samples
file and turn it into an MP3?
Has some other form of documentation replaced the collection
of HOWTOs at TLDP.org?  Thanks.


Cameron

LAME will do this, google if you need more info.  I use audacity to edit 
the raw wave first and then export as mp3 providing you have the LAME 
libs installed.


HTH

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Mailman and Postfix in Debian Unstable

2006-06-14 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear Siggy, dear All,

for any strange reason, postfix rejects emails sent from my
yahoo-Account to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist with the
following message:

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
80.254.163.99 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied
Giving up on 80.254.163.99.

I do not understand why!  Until recently, it worked

According to "/etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py", I have
configured my postfix installation with

/etc/postfix/main.cf:
relay_domains = lists.lpr.ch
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport.hash
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1

/etc/postfix/transport.hash:
lists.lpr.ch  mailman:

#> grep lists /etc/bind/db.lpr.ch
lists   IN  MX  5   mail2.lpr.ch.
lists   CNAME   mail2

euphrat:postfix!64> egrep '(MTA|DEB_LISTMASTER)' /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
MTA=None   # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist
DEB_LISTMASTER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
# MTA='Postfix'

I restarted and 'check'ed postfix and mailman several times -- the
same error happens.

Does anybody know what goes wrong?

Thanks for any help!

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Hardware 3D Support

2006-06-14 Thread Max Velasques

Hi,
 I have a laptop with Debian Sid and I would like to activate the
hardware 3D support.

The video chip is the follow:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)

My Xorg.conf has the follow lines:

Section "Module"
.
  Load"dbe"
  Load"ddc"
  Load"dri"
  Load"glx"
.
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier  "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device"
  Driver  "i810"
  BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
  Option  "DPMS"
  Option  "RenderAccel" "TRUE"
  Option  "DRI"
EndSection

Section "dri"
  Mode0666
EndSection


The output of "$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep rendering" is

(II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled

But the output of "$ glxinfo | grep rendering" is:

direct rendering: No

The module "i915" is loaded.
"drm" and "AGPPart" are active.

$ dmesg | grep agp
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel 855 Chipset.
agpgart: Detected 32636K stolen memory.
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe800


$ dmesg | grep drm
[drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
[drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0
[drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 1

I already look on the Internet, but I still could not make this work.
So, if someone could help me, will be great!!

Thanks!!

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