Re: Mutt and html

[Dave Ewart]

On Tuesday, 06.09.2005 at 06:51 +0200, David Jardine wrote:

> It's just that people on the list sometimes complain that someone has
> posted in html when it comes through as normal text for me, whereas I
> sometimes do get html attachments.

Some clients will send *both* plain text and HTML: Mutt will choose to
display the text version, in this case, unless you go via 'v' to
explicitly select the HTML version.

Other MUAs, when presented with a plain text and HTML message, may
choose instead to display the HTML.

Dave.
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Re: uncomprehension in apt-cache

[Cedric BRINER]

>Try changing "sid" to "unstable" in your sources (this really is a last 
> ditch attempt)
mmmh not.

was just to replace deb-src by deb.
I thought that kernel-source will in the deb-src???

so :
   # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
   
   #
   # sid
   deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main
   
   # apt-cache search kernel-source-2.6.11
   kernel-patch-debian-2.6.11 - Debian patches to Linux 2.6.11
   kernel-source-2.6.11 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Debian 
patches


anyway.. thanks for your help.

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apt configuration

[Cedric BRINER]

hello,

I'm maintaining a parc of 20 stations. All of them are sarge. But time to time, 
I need to install an other package (eg: from sid, from postgresql..).

So I was wondering how do you do, guys, to achieve such things.

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Re: Hard links to directories

[Maximillian Murphy]

Sorry Michael - I seem to have replied to you only.  Here goes to the list...
---
Support for multiple links to a directory has been in place in the
past, I'm sure, I've used it.

I'll have a look in a kernel book and see where this is implemented.

At the moment I navigate using several fancy mechanisms.  For example
if I'm in a directory I can type "mark" and it is marked as a
(temporary) favourite.  The favourites define a subtree and I have mls
(equivalent to ls) mcd and unmark commands.  I've also set up some
scripts that ensure that if I delete a file, it isn't actually deleted
until some backup hard links automatically expire 24 hours later, time
enough to recover from disasters.  Some of these mechanisms use
scripts and soft links, others use hard links.  I'm loth to lose the
hard link capability or to have it reduced to files only.

I can see that performance issues are important but capability is important too.

Regards, Max

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Re: question for sources.list

[roberto]

On 9/2/05, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> roberto wrote:
> > Hello, i was using sarge-testing for my laptop but now that sarge is
> > stable should i modify my sources.list substituting "testing" with
> > "stable"??
> >
> > Here is my sources.list
> >
> > # Official Debian mirror
> > deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main contrib 
> > non-free
> > deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main
> > contrib non-free
> > deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> > deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main
> > contrib non-free
> > deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
> > non-free contrib
> >
> ><<< munch >>>
> 
> yes you need to put
> 
> deb http://ftp./debian/ stable main...
> deb-src http:///debian/ stable main ...
> 
> sources.list tells apt where to find the packages.
> 
> but you also need to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
> and change the
> 
> APT::DefaultRelease line to
> 
> APT::DefaultRelease "stable"; [or "sarge"]
> 
> this tells apt which release to use.
> 
ok, thank you and i'll try to modify sources.list but i did not find
any /etc/apt/apt.conf only a directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ with a
file "70debconf"


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Re: Sony Memory Stick Pro and Debian

[Piotr Kopszak]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:53:58AM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:

> $ dmesg
> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> SCSI subsystem initialized
> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
> USB Mass Storage support registered.
> usb-storage: device found at 2
> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
>   Vendor: Sony  Model: Sony DSC  Rev: 5.00
>   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
> usb-storage: device scan complete
> SCSI device sda: 1988608 512-byte hdwr sectors (1018 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
> SCSI device sda: 1988608 512-byte hdwr sectors (1018 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
>  sda: sda1
> Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0

Hello, 

Thank you for all replies, however I'm afraid you are using the memory
which is loaded from the right side (sorry for this not very technical
description) into the CF slot. I am using the slot which is loaded
from the bottom, there is no memory in the CF slot as the original
memory that was there turned out to be defective very quickly,
although I was able to mount it as long as it worked. Here is
the relevant part of dmesg messages that I'm getting

hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 2
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x54c/0x10) is not claimed by any active driver.

Thanks again for your help

Piotr
   

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Help neeed with the 'diskless' package

[Frederic Dernbach]

Hello,

I've installed a diskless client using the 'diskless' package of Debian 
sarge (stable).


I successfully managed to start my diskless client (through PXE and 
recompiled kernel with appropriate options).The root file system is 
mounted as expected  by the client though NFS. On my server, I did not 
chage the defaults proposed by both commands 'diskless-newimage' and 
'diskless-newhost' at installation time:
- the root file system for myclient to NFS mount is : 
/var/lib/diskless/default/root
- the customized '/etc' '/tmp' and '/var' directories for my diskless 
client (with IP adress being 10.1.0.4) are stored in : 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4


However, during the client boot, the cutomized directories ( 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/etc, 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/var and 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/tmp are not mounted as /etc, /var, 
/tmp). I believe they should.


What did I miss ? I cannot see which script does the mouting of those 
customized directories ?


Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Fred


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Re: debconf

[Oliver Lupton]

David R. Litwin wrote:


Use sudo.

   



Hm My sudo is not configured.

 

`su` then. Doesn't matter how you get root privs, you just need to run 
it with them.



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Re: missing gnome menu items

[Markus . Grunwald]

Hello,

Angelo Bertolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02.09.2005 17:27:25:

> Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has experienced missing gnome menu 
> items.

Not much help, but I have the same problem as you...

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Re: debconf

[Cedric BRINER]

use sux instead of sudo.. ti will give you a root terminal with the right to 
use your X
or 
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..
Ced.

> >>Use sudo.
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Hm My sudo is not configured.
> >
> > 
> >
> `su` then. Doesn't matter how you get root privs, you just need to run 
> it with them.
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Re: mutt rocks

[Antonio Rodriguez]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:32:40AM -0500, Steve Block wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:38:07AM +0100, Joe Mc Cool wrote:
> >mutt really is super.  Thanks a lot to everybody involved.
> >
> >And to think it took me all these years to find out. 
> 
> Happy day!
> 
> If you're like many of us your muttrc will grow over time, getting
> longer and longer like a cancer. =D

Would be interesting to see users posting well commented muttrcs.


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Re: Opinions of Sony Vaio VGN-A417S for Debian

[charlie]

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:28:20 +0100
Norton used the keyboard to craft this:

  >|> The 2.6.xx kernels work with the touchpad, but
  >|> certainly not allow it to tap, no matter what way I write the
  >|> XF86config-4 file.
  >|
  >|what do you mean? how do you "click" on it? I got a 1355LC, 15"
screen
  >|size, running sarge and I can tap. I just had to install the
synaptics
  >|package and put this in XF86Config:
  >|
  >|Section "Module"
  >|...
  >|Load"synaptics"
  >|
  >|...
  >|
  >|Section "InputDevice"
  >|Identifier  "Touchpad"
  >|Driver  "synaptics"
  >|Option  "AlwaysCore"
  >|Option  "CorePointer"
  >|Option  "Protocol"  "auto-dev"
  >|Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
  >|Option  "VertScrollDelta"   "100"
  >|Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.0010"
  >|Option  "RightEdge" "5400"
  >|Option  "MaxTapTime""180"
  >|Option  "TopEdge"   "1900"
  >|Option  "SHMConfig" "on"
  >|Option  "FingerLow" "25"
  >|Option  "LeftEdge"  "1900"
  >|Option  "MaxTapMove""220"
  >|Option  "MinSpeed"  "0.02"
  >|Option  "FingerHigh""30"
  >|Option  "MaxSpeed"  "0.18"
  >|Option  "BottomEdge""4000"
  >|Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
  >|EndSection
  >|
  >|...
  >|
  >|Section "ServerLayout"
  >|...
  >|InputDevice "Touchpad"
  >|
  >|
  >|
  >|Norton
  >|

Thanks Norton,

This works for me. It is a bit slow and the touch pad needs a bit more
force to tap, but I should be able to tweak that, I think. Thanks for
that, much appreciated.

Charlie


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Re: Help neeed with the 'diskless' package

[Frederic Dernbach]

One more usefull thing that I just found out :

The client-customized directories are well mounted if the NFS root file 
system is mounted read-only
However, if the NFS root file system is mounted read-write (this is my 
case thanks to my SYSLINUX/PXE boot file), then the customized 
directories are not mounted as expected (as described below).


Any idea why this is ? Is this a 'diskless' bug ?

Fred

Frederic Dernbach a écrit :


Hello,

I've installed a diskless client using the 'diskless' package of 
Debian sarge (stable).


I successfully managed to start my diskless client (through PXE and 
recompiled kernel with appropriate options).The root file system is 
mounted as expected  by the client though NFS. On my server, I did not 
chage the defaults proposed by both commands 'diskless-newimage' and 
'diskless-newhost' at installation time:
- the root file system for myclient to NFS mount is : 
/var/lib/diskless/default/root
- the customized '/etc' '/tmp' and '/var' directories for my diskless 
client (with IP adress being 10.1.0.4) are stored in : 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4


However, during the client boot, the cutomized directories ( 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/etc, 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/var and 
/var/lib/diskless/default/10.1.0.4/tmp are not mounted as /etc, /var, 
/tmp). I believe they should.


What did I miss ? I cannot see which script does the mouting of those 
customized directories ?


Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Fred




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LDAP: SSL support unavailable ?

[F.X. Harry Wardhana]

Dear All,

I'm trying to install phpldapadmin in a new linux box replacing my mandrake 
with debian sarge 3.1 with apache 2. When i open 
http://localhost/phpldapadmin , error message displayed:

Error
Your install of PHP appears to be missing LDAP support. Please install LDAP 
support before using phpLDAPadmin. (Don't forget to restart your web server 
afterwards)

I have already install php4-ldap package.

# tail /var/log/apache2/
[Tue Sep 06 12:42:26 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: Built with OpenLDAP LDAP SDK
[Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: SSL support unavailable

I also had install openssl too. Am i missing something here?
When i try with apache version 1 phpldapadmin run very well.

Need help.. I'm newbee with debian

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Re: mutt rocks

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
Joe Mc Cool told:

> Ye Gods !
> 
> mutt really is super.  Thanks a lot to everybody involved.
> 
> And to think it took me all these years to find out. 

mutt-ng rocks more ;)
apt-get install -t experimental mutt-ng
http://mutt-ng.berlios.de

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Re: question for sources.list

[roberto]

On 9/6/05, Frederic Dernbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> roberto a écrit :
> 
> >On 9/2/05, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>roberto wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello, i was using sarge-testing for my laptop but now that sarge is
> >>>stable should i modify my sources.list substituting "testing" with
> >>>"stable"??
> >>>
> >>>Here is my sources.list
> >>>
> >>># Official Debian mirror
> >>>deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> >>>deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> >>>deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main contrib 
> >>>non-free
> >>>deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main
> >>>contrib non-free
> >>>deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> >>>deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main
> >>>contrib non-free
> >>>deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
> >>>deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
> >>>non-free contrib
> >>>
> >>><<< munch >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>yes you need to put
> >>
> >>deb http://ftp./debian/ stable main...
> >>deb-src http:///debian/ stable main ...
> >>
> >>sources.list tells apt where to find the packages.
> >>
> >>but you also need to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
> >>and change the
> >>
> >>APT::DefaultRelease line to
> >>
> >>APT::DefaultRelease "stable"; [or "sarge"]
> >>
> >>this tells apt which release to use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >ok, thank you and i'll try to modify sources.list but i did not find
> >any /etc/apt/apt.conf only a directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ with a
> >file "70debconf"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> And do not forget to run 'apt-get update' once you have changed your
> /etc/apt/sources.list file .
> 
> Fred
> 
well i tried 
~:#apt-get update

and after some correct download i got the following errors:
###
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 Nosuch file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat(2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 Nosuch file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat(2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.


i think something is still wrong in sources.list which i attach here:
###
# My sources.list file.

# Official Debian mirror
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
non-free contrib

# Security updates
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

# JDK
deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian/ ./
deb-src http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian/ ./

# DRI
deb http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./


:(
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Newsgroups for Debian

[Scott Schreiber]

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It is.

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Exim + relay + auth

[Klaus Schmidt]

I've been trying to find some information all over the web now, and I can't 
find any solution to my problem (getting nuts!). I want to run a mailserver 
with IMAP-support, and I've installed the exim4 package (using monolithic 
file option) together with courier. The problem is that I can't figure out 
how to force smtp auth as well as relay mails from any host (for the 
authenticated users only). I don't want to use any encryption for auth 
either.


I would need a step-by-step description on how to make this because none of 
the other user's posts have given straightforward instructions that could 
help me.


I feel that I've tried everything now, but without any success so any help 
is highly appreciated!


If possible, feel free to contribute with a config file that would solve 
this as well.


Thanks!

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Help!

[George Boyce]

Just downloaded 
and installed Debian 3.1.very easy to install! I want to learn the OS as I 
believe it is the future.
The only issue so 
far is that after I log in with my user-name, it asks me for my password. I 
enter the password, but it brings me to:   "username"@Debian1: ~ $  (my username 
is my name - no space and Debian1 is my domain - for now)
 
I'm not sure what 
to do from here! I typed in ENTER - no good. I tried LOGONstill no 
good! Keeps
bringing me 
to  "username"@Debian1: ~$
 
Any help would be 
greatly appreciated!

George 
BoyceOwnerGB Plus PC Repair & 
ConsultationStony Brook, 
NY  

 
 


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LSI SATA RAID (again)

[Hans du Plooy]

Hi guys,

This is getting weirder.  First, I found that one can disable "fast 
initialization" in the card's firmware.  I did this, let the discs 
initialize properly (which took about a day), tried again - no improvement.


I replaced the card with my cheap-o 2-port Sil_3112a card, tested 
writing to the discs independantly, and in kernel based raid, both 
raid-0 and raid-1.  Single disk and raid-0 both gave me between 25mb/s 
and 30mb/s, raid-1 gave me about 20mb/s.


Then I tested single disc on the LSI card, port by port.  Guess what I 
found?  Ports 0, 2 and 4 are dogs, can barely manage 10mb/s.  Ports 1, 
3, and 5 do around 25mb/s.  To confirm this, when I initialized the 
discs, the ones on ports 0 and 2 (I didn't have any on 4) took about 
four times as long as the others.   Anybody know why this is?


Then I decided, OK, let's make a raid5 (in the card's firmware), with 
only three discs on ports 1, 3 and 5 (the "fast" ports).  Again, I 
struggle to reach 10mb/s.  While this copy is in progress, I see my 
system load shooting to over 8.0


So, my theory:  This card relies on the megaraid driver to do the heavy 
lifting.  The CPU on the board is the older P4 based Celeron 2ghz (128k 
cache), and absolute dog in it's own right.  Maybe this machine just 
isn't strong enough for this type of raid?


000:00:07.0 RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID (rev 
01)
 Subsystem: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-6 RAID 
Controller

 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
 Memory at ef00 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

Any insights would be appreciated.

Thanks
Hans


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Re: Help!

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:48:53AM -0400, George Boyce wrote:
> I'm not sure what to do from here! I typed in ENTER - no good. I
> tried LOGONstill no good! Keeps
> bringing me to  "username"@Debian1: ~$

Good news: it's doing *almost* exactly what it should.
When you get '[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$', that's called the
"command line." It's a very powerful way of interacting with
your computer.

However, for new users, I think it's a better idea for them
to be using a "graphical desktop." Debian comes with a few
graphical desktops; "GNOME" and "KDE" are two popular ones.
Just to give you some idea, here's a screenshot of what my
graphical desktop (GNOME, with some KDE apps) looks like:

http://laniels.org/img/graphical_desktop.png

Debian should, by default, install a graphical desktop on
your machine. It's a tiny bit complicated to explain how to
get a graphical desktop installed now that you've completed
the installation. You'll need to install a number of Debian
packages -- among them the gnome package -- but I don't know
which ones to tell you offhand. I assume others do.

Good luck.

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Re: debconf

[Derek \"The Monkey\" Wueppelmann]

On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 23:38 -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> I have set debconf to use gtk by accident: I want it to be displayed
> with KDE's Qt. When I try to do dpkg-reconfigure debconf, it either
> says I do not have permission, or it says: # dpkg-reconfigure debconf
> Xlib: connection to ": 0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
> dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0. How can I fix it so
> that A: It uses Qt. B: I can do this from a Console (and still have it
> displayed in Qt)? 
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance.

It looks like your X session isn't allowing root to open a window. This
can be solved easily by executing:

xhost +

before you SU into a root session. This command allows any user to open
up applications in your x session. On most desktop systems this isn't a
problem as you only have one user on the system at a time. There are
other options you can pass to xhost that will allow only specific users
access to the display, but I usually end up just allowing everybody.

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[Joerg Lange]

Hi,
 
I'm having a hard time getting cyrus (debian packages cyrus21-*) to run together with exim and procmail.
 
I have configured the system that mails are passed to procmail by exim, and then to cyrdeliver by the .procmailrc. However, cyrus gives me the error message: "Message contains invalid header". I cant figure out what exactly is wrong on the header and what cyrdeliver is expecting.

 
When I start cyrdeliver manually with a very simple testmail, I get the same message:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo testmail.txt | /usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -e -a mailtest -m user.mailtest+user.mailtest: Message contains invalid header

 

testmail.txt:
-=-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Return-path: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Test123

Hi,This is a small testmail!
-=-
 
 
I am lost. This mail is so simple, why does cyrus complain?
 
Before cyrus21, I had the old packaged (cyrus-common, cyrus-imapd) installed. With them, I got the same error but I solved it by getting rid of the line "From xxx" (note that there is no colon after the word "From"). But in the above example, I have a line "From:", with colon. It should work

 
By the way I'm using debian stable (sarge).
 
Many thanks for any help!!!
Joerg
 

Re: Help!

[Clive Menzies]

> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:48:53AM -0400, George Boyce wrote:
> > I'm not sure what to do from here! I typed in ENTER - no good. I
> > tried LOGONstill no good! Keeps
> > bringing me to  "username"@Debian1: ~$

There are a number of GUI environments to choose from but KDE
is probably a good starting place: 

$ su
(enter root passwaord)

# aptitude update

# aptitude install x-window-system-core, kdm, kdebase

Once the install is complete, press Ctl-D to log out as the root (super)
user.  Then type:

$ startx

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Howard Eisenberger]

On 2005-09-06, Marc Wilson wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 08:56:48PM -0400, Adam wrote:
>> Are the linux.debian newsgroups offical? Also, are they mailing list
>> copies?
>
> No and yes (mostly).  But the gateway is used to be one-way, where what you
> posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML.  I have no idea if that's still
> the case.

Let's see. I'm posting this to the newsgroup, and I am subscribed
to linux-gate at lists.bofh.it .

Regards,

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Re: Help!

[David Goodenough]

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 13:14, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:48:53AM -0400, George Boyce wrote:
> > I'm not sure what to do from here! I typed in ENTER - no good. I
> > tried LOGONstill no good! Keeps
> > bringing me to  "username"@Debian1: ~$
>
> Good news: it's doing *almost* exactly what it should.
> When you get '[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$', that's called the
> "command line." It's a very powerful way of interacting with
> your computer.
>
> However, for new users, I think it's a better idea for them
> to be using a "graphical desktop." Debian comes with a few
> graphical desktops; "GNOME" and "KDE" are two popular ones.
> Just to give you some idea, here's a screenshot of what my
> graphical desktop (GNOME, with some KDE apps) looks like:
>
> http://laniels.org/img/graphical_desktop.png
>
> Debian should, by default, install a graphical desktop on
> your machine. It's a tiny bit complicated to explain how to
> get a graphical desktop installed now that you've completed
> the installation. You'll need to install a number of Debian
> packages -- among them the gnome package -- but I don't know
> which ones to tell you offhand. I assume others do.
>
> Good luck.
You need to install X-Windows, and either (or both) or KDE and
GNOME.  Personally I use KDE, but the choice is yours.

You need to switch to the root user, and issue the following
command (for KDE, I am not sure for GNOME):-

apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm

This will install a whole bunch of stuff and after installing it all
you may find it starts the graphical logon (kdm) automatically
but if it does not it can be started either by rebooting or by
issuing (again as root):-

/etc/init.d/kdm restart

If the install of X-Windows does not go smoothly (and this will
depend on your graphics card) then you might need to come 
back for some more help;

David


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OT: perlcc problems

[Markus . Grunwald]

Hello,

When trying to compile a perl program with perlcc, the compiled program 
dies with an error, while the original is ok:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] >./foomatic-rip-c 
Modification of a read-only value attempted at foomatic-rip line 8.

I googled for this error but got nothing helpfull. It seems error existed 
back in perl 5.8.3 and should have been fixed...
Can anybody give me some hints how to get this working ?

[ btw: i need a foomatic-rip binary because my embedded device has no 
perl... ]


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Re: mutt rocks

[Dave Ewart]

On Tuesday, 06.09.2005 at 05:48 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:32:40AM -0500, Steve Block wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:38:07AM +0100, Joe Mc Cool wrote:
> > >mutt really is super.  Thanks a lot to everybody involved.
> > >
> > >And to think it took me all these years to find out. 
> > 
> > Happy day!
> > 
> > If you're like many of us your muttrc will grow over time, getting
> > longer and longer like a cancer. =D
> 
> Would be interesting to see users posting well commented muttrcs.

Try here for starters: http://www.dotfiles.com/index.php3?app_id=27

I personally found Sven Guckes examples very helpful when setting up
Mutt, but the link appears to be 404 now ...

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Re: Help!

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:00:25PM +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
> You need to switch to the root user, and issue the following
> command (for KDE, I am not sure for GNOME):-
> 
> apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm

Two things:

1) It's been a while since I've installed Debian. Are new
users added automatically to the sudoers file? If so, I'd
recommend sudoing the apt-get command above, rather than
doing it as root.

2) This new user's experience suggests that the Debian
installer isn't very good for new users. I might suggest
that users get a three-option prompt at their first screen:
"I am a beginning user", "I am an intermediate user", or "I
am an advanced user." Beginning users wouldn't have to type
anything else, except their desired username and password.
All other questions would get default answers.

How close does the Sarge installer get to this?

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Re: apt configuration

[James Vahn]

Cedric BRINER wrote:
> I'm maintaining a parc of 20 stations. All of them are sarge. But time
> to time, I need to install an other package (eg: from sid, from
> postgresql..).
> 
> So I was wondering how do you do, guys, to achieve such things.

examples:
~$ wajig update
~$ wajig install mysql
~$ wajig install/unstable postgresql


---/etc/apt/sources.list--
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free


---/etc/apt/preferences---
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 50

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 990



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building source packages with custom options?

[Dick Davies]

I've just found out I can use 'apt-get source'/'dpkg-buildpackage' to
roll my own packages from source, which is great for an old BSD boy
like myself?

But how do I specify a --configure option? I scoured a few manpages
and saw nothing obivous...

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Re: Desperation with Hylafax and AVM Fritz ISDN Card PCI on a debian system

[Andreas Moser]

Hello Almut,

after changing the rights for the capi20 device, there was no difference in the 
delivery of the facsimile.
Any other ideas?

Best regards
Andreas

Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 05.09.05 21:34:16:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 08:53:27PM +0200, Andreas Moser wrote:
> > (...)
> > Seems so that my controller is working.
> > Now I had to check whether the group dialout can access on /dev/capi20 
> > and the user "uucp" is member in this group too.
> > 
> > alpha:/dev# ls -l capi20
> > crw--- 1 uucp dialout 68, 0 2005-09-01 14:14 capi20
> 
> I have to admit I haven't read your entire problem description (so I
> might be missing something essential), but to me this looks like group
> dialout does _not_ have read/write permission on /dev/capi20. In other
> words, you, as a member of that group, also do not have access (only
> user uucp has)...  You probably want to "chmod g+rw" on the device.
> 
> Good luck,
> Almut
> 
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ns2 for sarge

[roberto]

hello
i did not find the package corresponding to ns2 network simulator
in :

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.en-gb.html#search_packages

is there any available version for sarge?
or i have to download the tar.gz

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Re: building source packages with custom options?

[Jacob S]

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:15:34 +0100
Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've just found out I can use 'apt-get source'/'dpkg-buildpackage' to
> roll my own packages from source, which is great for an old BSD boy
> like myself?
> 
> But how do I specify a --configure option? I scoured a few manpages
> and saw nothing obivous...

That would normally be found in /debian/rules.

HTH,
Jacob


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Freeze with Debian Sarge

[michael bailey]

 Running Debian Sarge on an Intel P3 machine, twice in
the past two weeks the screen has frozen completely
and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock green lights have
started flashing rapidly. The mouse and keyboard then
both don't work and you can't move anything on the
screen.

Trying Crtl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work
either. It's therefore not possible to reboot from the
screen.

The only way to remove this hanging is to reboot
completely from the Power ON/OFF button which does
then bring back the login window.

Nothing special is happening during these freezes -
there are some xterms open and a couple of Mozilla
windows. There are no programs running and the
websites in the Mozilla browsers are basic, such as
cnn.com, nothing with any complicated movies or
anything like that.

Can anyone please see if a cause can be determined for
this problem? 










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Re: Help!

[Brian Chase]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:


On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:00:25PM +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
 


You need to switch to the root user, and issue the following
command (for KDE, I am not sure for GNOME):-

apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm
   



Two things:

1) It's been a while since I've installed Debian. Are new
users added automatically to the sudoers file? If so, I'd
recommend sudoing the apt-get command above, rather than
doing it as root.

2) This new user's experience suggests that the Debian
installer isn't very good for new users. I might suggest
that users get a three-option prompt at their first screen:
"I am a beginning user", "I am an intermediate user", or "I
am an advanced user." Beginning users wouldn't have to type
anything else, except their desired username and password.
All other questions would get default answers.

How close does the Sarge installer get to this?

 

Sarge get pretty close, but even though I took the beginner X 
configuration options at install, I still had to do some manual editing 
of the Xconfig file to enable greater resolution.  It's a show stopper 
until you dig it out in Google, but once you do, most things are quite 
easy for the intermediate user.  A straight debian install is not what 
I'd recommend for very new users.  I'd point those users to Ubuntu, 
which, with the help of the Unofficial Unbuntu guide, can get you fully 
functional with a streamlined, updated debian system in short order.


best of luck.

Brian


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Re: Is it safe to dist-upgrade kde* now?

[garaged]

On 9/6/05, Kim Adil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject says it all I think.  I and many others had to roll back, and I
> was advised to hold back. How will I know when to proceed?

It's possible, but sinces you are using an unstable tree, don't expect
to get everething perfect, I have it and some packages are missing,
but nothing important, I can work perfectly fine without them.

having said that, go ahead if you can handle little problems (which I
haven't had).

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Re: Is it safe to dist-upgrade kde* now?

[Roby]

Kim Adil wrote:

> Subject says it all I think.  I and many others had to roll back, and I
> was advised to hold back. How will I know when to proceed?
> 
> 
> Kim
That will depend on what parts of KDE you have installed and your tolerance
for temporarily missing pieces.  I run apt-get update to snapshot
repository status and the apt-get dist-upgrade to see what would be
removed/held/replaced *if* I said Y(es).  So far, I've declined and settled
for an apt-get upgrade instead ... but it's getting close.

I'll back up my linux partition before downloading and installing this huge
bunch of goodies.

Roby


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apt 0.6 not recognizing local repository

[hacker (of golf)]

I created a local repository using apt-move on another partition to
make space for all the dist-upgrades.  I used 'apt-get clean' to
empty /var/cache/apt/archives.  I added the file: into my sources
list.  Now, when I do 'apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update', I
get these error messages:

Ign file: unstable Release.gpg
Ign file: unstable/local Packages
Get:1 file: unstable Release [1186B]
Ign file: unstable/main Packages
Ign file: unstable/contrib Packages
Ign file: unstable/non-free Packages

and when I do 'apt-get --allow-unauthenticated -d dist-upgrade', it
starts downloading all the files in my local repository again.

I read the man pages for apt-move and realize without a gpg key that
apt-move is supposed to have unzipped Packages files, and did this.

And, I'm using the --allow-unauthenticed option with my apt-get commands.

What am I missing?

golfbuf

Re: building source packages with custom options?

[Dick Davies]

Thanks, worked a treat!

Can you point me at TFM? I'll be sure to R it next time :)


On 06/09/05, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:15:34 +0100
> Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've just found out I can use 'apt-get source'/'dpkg-buildpackage' to
> > roll my own packages from source, which is great for an old BSD boy
> > like myself?
> >
> > But how do I specify a --configure option? I scoured a few manpages
> > and saw nothing obivous...
> 
> That would normally be found in /debian/rules.
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob
> 
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Re: Compiling Kernel for Bootsplash: The Whole Seven Metres.

[mess-mate]

Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| "David R. Litwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 
| > Before I go any further, yes, I need bootsplash: My computer is dual-boot 
and
| > the other user insists on A: Using Windows and B: Shutting Down every 
Evening.
| > In addition, I shall be getting a lap-top soon. (By the bye, why doesn't
| > Debian have Bootsplash as a standard?)
| >
| > I know I need to compile a kernel (which I can do with synaptic and
| > kernel-package) and then patch it.
| >
| > I do not know how.
| >
| > I have skimmed through a HOWTO or three. However, they aren't quite 
answering
| > my questions. So, allow me to elaborate, if you will.
| >
| > Firstly, I need to get linux-source-2.6.12 from the Debian archives (with
| > Synaptic, in my case). Do I need linux-patch-debian-2.6.12 or
| > linux-tree-2.6.12?
| 
| I find it easiest to just grab the vanilla sources straight from
| kernel.org.  The Debian ones tend to be crippled and patched, which
| makes it a pain to apply new patches.
| 
| Basically, the steps are:
| 
| 1. Download the kernel source
| 
| 2. Extract it to /usr/src, or wherever you'd prefer
| 
| 3. Download the bootsplash patch from http://www.bootsplash.de/files/
| 
| 4. 'cd' into the extracted kernel source directory and run 'patch -p1
|/path/to/bootsplash.diff'
| 
| 5. Run 'make menuconfig', customize as needed, and be sure to set
|CONFIG_BOOTSPLASH=y
| 
| 6. Run 'make-kpkg kernel_image'.  See /usr/share/doc/kernel-packages for
|lots more info.
| 
| 7. Use 'dpkg -i' to install the newly build kernel package
| 
| > Next, I need use kernel-package. How do I do this? What of menuconfig or 
some
| > such thing? Must I 'do' this as well?
| >
| > There is also the matter of Patching. When and how do I do this so that I 
will
| > have Bootsplash? There is an entry for Sources.list, so I can acquire that
| > which I need from the Bootsplash web-site. But, what do I need? How do I
| > implement this?
| 
| Add to the /etc/apt/sources.list:
| 
|   deb http://debian.bootsplash.de unstable main
| 
| And then install:
| 
| bootsplash
| bootsplash-theme-whatever
| 
| And probably sysv-rc-bootsplash if you want a working progress bar.
| It looks like they also have some packages for apply the kernel patch,
| but I've never bothered with those.
| 
| I think that's about it...
| 
| -- 
Thanks for the tut..
But after downloading a vanilla linux-2.6.12.6 kernel,
the  patch -p1 --verbose bootsplash-3.1.6-2.6.12.diff 
don't work. (nothing happen)
Have to ^c to stop it after 30min.


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Re: Help!

[Kent West]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:

>1) It's been a while since I've installed Debian. Are new
>users added automatically to the sudoers file?
>  
>
No.

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unable to initialize modem (Siemes MC35)

[Marc Brünink]

Hi List,

I'm trying to get a Siemens MC35 Modem up and running.
wvdialconf found the modem but everytime wvdial tried to initialize the 
modem I got a "CME Error: 3" which stands for "Operation not allowed". 
Every other AT command results in a 258: "phone is busy".
I connected to the serial port with minicom and got a 258 twice. After 
I waited long enough eventually I got a cpas: 0 (without doing 
anything!) which means the modem is ready. After this I was able to 
connect to the internet with minicom and wvdial.


I'm stuck. Does someone have a clue how to fix this issue? Or just an 
idea where to look next?


Many Thanks!
Marc


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Re: question for sources.list

[Oliver Lupton]

roberto wrote:


On 9/6/05, Frederic Dernbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


roberto a écrit :

   


On 9/2/05, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


roberto wrote:


   


Hello, i was using sarge-testing for my laptop but now that sarge is
stable should i modify my sources.list substituting "testing" with
"stable"??

Here is my sources.list

# Official Debian mirror
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
non-free contrib

<<< munch >>>


 


yes you need to put

deb http://ftp./debian/ stable main...
deb-src http:///debian/ stable main ...

sources.list tells apt where to find the packages.

but you also need to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
and change the

APT::DefaultRelease line to

APT::DefaultRelease "stable"; [or "sarge"]

this tells apt which release to use.



   


ok, thank you and i'll try to modify sources.list but i did not find
any /etc/apt/apt.conf only a directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ with a
file "70debconf"




 


And do not forget to run 'apt-get update' once you have changed your
/etc/apt/sources.list file .

Fred

   

well i tried 
~:#apt-get update


and after some correct download i got the following errors:
###
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 Nosuch file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat(2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 Nosuch file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat(2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.it.debian.org
stable/non-US/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.


i think something is still wrong in sources.list which i attach here:
###
# My sources.list file.

# Official Debian mirror
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/stable main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
non-free contrib

# Security updates
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

# JDK
deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian/ ./
deb-src http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian/ ./

# DRI
deb http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./


:(
thank you

 

I don't know exactly what the issues are and what's happened with it, 
but this is in in #debian topic:


"NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main"

And as the ones failing are the non-us ones...

Cheers, Oliver


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Re: Not able to print page footer or header.

[Simo Kauppi]

On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:40:51PM -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> > The upper-left corner of the "page content" slightly overwrites the
> > upper-left header field. Do I need to "tweak" things just a bit more?
> > Would I use a value less than or greater than 0.25?
> 
> 
> Honestly, I have no idea. It works for me (for now). Feel free to tweak and 
> report your findings. Myabe I've done some thing worng. 
> 
> Also, there is a bit more "space" below the footer than above the header.
> > Maybe something is wrong with my printer?
> 
> 
> I would say there is no thing wrong with the Hard-Ware. In my (limited) 
> experience, it is gnerally human-error (or some such thing). keep Tweaking 
> and I'm sure it will work. 
> 
> -- 
> ???A watched bread-crumb never boils.
> ???My hover-craft is full of eels.
> ?? <--You've just been Interrobanged.
> ???[...]and that's the he and the she of it.

I printed a test page with CUPS (from the CUPS admin page in
localhost:631) which gave me a nice border showing the printable area.
From that I got the values to use in firefox Print->Properties...
dialog.

I think the values in the Page setup... dialog adjust the placement of
the actual content of the web page so those values should be a little
bigger than the values in the Print->Properties... dialog. Not sure
though :)

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Re: uncomprehension in apt-cache

[Bob Proulx]

Cedric BRINER wrote:
> was just to replace deb-src by deb.
> I thought that kernel-source will in the deb-src???

The kernel is one of the "special" packages in Debian.  The package
does not use the normal Debian rules for building.  At one time there
was a *HUGE* discussion about converting it to a normal Debian
package but it met with stiff resistance.

The kernel-source is a binary package created at package build time
and is distributed like a binary package.  So it is in the 'deb' area
and not the 'deb-src' area.

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Re: Compiling Kernel for Bootsplash: The Whole Seven Metres.

[Bob Proulx]

Brian Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
> >> I find it easiest to just grab the vanilla sources straight from
> >> kernel.org.  The Debian ones tend to be crippled and patched, which
> >> makes it a pain to apply new patches.
> >
> > I always find it easier to use the Debian stock kernels.  They have
> > all of the toys preconfigured and patches can be easily applied.
> >
> > (Just to make a counter case because I think using both Debian patched
> > kernel source an using upstream kernel.org source are valid.  But I
> > don't think the Debian source is crippled in any way.  If you think it
> > is then please file a bug in the BTS about it.)
> 
> The kernel packagers remove drivers that have embedded firmware blobs
> due to lack of source for the blobs.  See for example:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/239952

I will try to avoid the whole non-DFSG and legal question debate
(again) here because it usually goes on forever and just acknowledge
your point.  The only reason I was dragged in was that I fell for your
troll.

Bob


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Re: sendmail trouble

[Bob Proulx]

James Vahn wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > I think you will get at least ten responses suggesting that you should
> > move away from sendmail.  Half will be to postfix.  Half will be to
> > exim. 
> 
> Any idea why? I've never understood why Debian moved to Exim as the
> default MTA. Longtime sendmail user, 10-11 years.
> ...
> But your statement is one that I've often wondered about...
> Any feedback? What am I missing? thanks!

I also ran Sendmail for years.  It was a good mailer in its day and
has set the standard.  But unfortunately it has had a long history of
security vulnerabilities.  Mostly this one thing is what has driven
people away from it.

The classic unix paradigm is to have many small programs that are
specific and targeted.  Each program does one thing and does it well.
Smaller programs are combined to form more powerful programs.  This is
the basis of the cat, grep, sed type of paradigm.

Sendmail violates this classic unix philosophy.  It is one huge
monolithic program.  Worse it is one huge monolithic program that runs
as root.  Therefore almost the entire program is available to find a
security whole.  And the history of security holes is very long in
Sendmail.  It is just a hard thing to secure.

Additionally sendmail's configuration syntax is complex in its
simplicity.  It has a very low level configuration language that makes
doing high level tasks tedious.  And being so very flexible it is
itself a vector of attack.  Of course now most people use the m4
macros to make this much easier.  But being macros you are really not
getting away from the underlying language and for many things you will
still need to work with the low level sendmail language.

To counter the problems in Sendmail programs like Postfix and Exim are
a fresh rewrite.  They benefit from the experience gained from
Sendmail.  But for example Postfix follows the unix paradigm and has
many smaller programs that do targeted tasks.  Very few of the
programs run with elevated privilege.  A non-root user is used for
tasks that allow this.  This isolation makes auditing the code much
easier because smaller sections of it are vulnerable to attack.
Historically Postfix and Exim have had significantly fewer
vulnerabilities and they were found were usually of lessor consequence
than Sendmail.

Personally I like Postfix because it is very powerful, fast and yet
simple to configure because it is almost entirely table driven.  I
don't know as much about Exim but through association it also seems to
be a capable mailer.

I hope this helps,
Bob


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Re: ALSA setup fails for user

[Haines Brown]

 
> On 9/5/05, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AFAIK, the interface being used is ALSA.  :)  I don't think ALSA
> cares about anything in /dev.

Interesting. Where would that interface be located?

> So if you reboot, sound doesn't work, but if you then reconfigure
> ALSA, it does work?

Yes, I just re-verified that. I compared lsmod before and after
reconfiguration, and I believe all modules get with boot.

I had some others loaded before rebooting - snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi,
snd_seq_midievent, snd_seq), but that may have been effect of my
fiddling. Right now (after doing alsaconf), aplay works without
them. 

> You need to create an ~/.asoundrc file.  The ALSA site has tons of
> (almost too) detailed information on that.  :) You can also find
> sample config files with Google.

I created the ~/.asoundrc file and put into it a simple configuration,
which seems to be just to redefine defaults. However, not knowing
where my problem lies, I don't know what I'd need to define here.

> That may be all it is, although the stock ALSA setup should at least
> work.  Does it work properly after you run alsaconf?

Yes, but only after running alsaconf. If you refer to xmms, no.

-

Re. XMMS

> > And no sound. In ~/.xmms/config I have:
> > 
> > pcm_device=default
> > mixer_card=0
> > mixer_device=PCM
> > 
> If you haven't already, you should install XMMS's ALSA output
> module.  I think it's in apt, unless it's included with XMMS's base
> package, in which case you just need to choose it in XMMS's
> preferences.

You've lost me. In base package, dpkg -L lists a lot of libraries,
such as /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so. In xmms, options,
preferences, under audio O/0 plugins, I have a list of input plugins
that includes Wave Player (livwav.so). If I select it, the Enable
plugin get checked, but when I restart xmms, it is no longer
enabled. As for output plugin, I have selected ALSA output plugin
(libALSA.so). 

When I start xmms I get:

  Message: device: default

and when I try to play a .wav file, appended is:

  Message: alsa mixer timed out  

But lsmod does not list libALSA. And #insmod libALSA.so reports it
can't be found. And # insmod /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA reports that 
"no such file", even though it's there.

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Re: ALSA setup fails for user

[Haines Brown]

 
> On 9/5/05, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AFAIK, the interface being used is ALSA.  :)  I don't think ALSA
> cares about anything in /dev.

Interesting. Where would that interface be located?

> So if you reboot, sound doesn't work, but if you then reconfigure
> ALSA, it does work?

Yes, I just re-verified that. I compared lsmod before and after
reconfiguration, and I believe all modules get with boot.

I had some others loaded before rebooting - snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi,
snd_seq_midievent, snd_seq), but that may have been effect of my
fiddling. Right now (after doing alsaconf), aplay works without
them. 

> You need to create an ~/.asoundrc file.  The ALSA site has tons of
> (almost too) detailed information on that.  :) You can also find
> sample config files with Google.

I created the ~/.asoundrc file and put into it a simple configuration,
which seems to be just to redefine defaults. However, not knowing
where my problem lies, I don't know what I'd need to define here.

> That may be all it is, although the stock ALSA setup should at least
> work.  Does it work properly after you run alsaconf?

Yes, but only after running alsaconf. If you refer to xmms, no.

-

Re. XMMS

> > And no sound. In ~/.xmms/config I have:
> > 
> > pcm_device=default
> > mixer_card=0
> > mixer_device=PCM
> > 
> If you haven't already, you should install XMMS's ALSA output
> module.  I think it's in apt, unless it's included with XMMS's base
> package, in which case you just need to choose it in XMMS's
> preferences.

You've lost me. In base package, dpkg -L lists a lot of libraries,
such as /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so. In xmms, options,
preferences, under audio O/0 plugins, I have a list of input plugins
that includes Wave Player (livwav.so). If I select it, the Enable
plugin get checked, but when I restart xmms, it is no longer
enabled. As for output plugin, I have selected ALSA output plugin
(libALSA.so). 

When I start xmms I get:

  Message: device: default

and when I try to play a .wav file, appended is:

  Message: alsa mixer timed out  

But lsmod does not list libALSA. And #insmod libALSA.so reports it
can't be found. And # insmod /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA reports that 
"no such file", even though it's there.

Haines Brown 


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Re: KDE on Sid

[[KS]]

David Baron wrote:
> Looks like nearing completion. With libtq3-mt around, finally getting there. 
> Still wants to remove too much stuff to do the upgrade, though. Most all 
> attempted upgrades have been tedious and tenuous for a while.
> 
> Hope Sid gets straightened out soon :-)
> 
> 

Yes, it seems that the kde-core is almost done and I was reading
somewhere yesterday that the Debian qt/KDE maintainers have asked other
KDE application maintainers to start uploading their versions for 3.4.2

An apt-get -s install kde-core gives me a pretty good picture with not a
single package being removed without installing a newer version. But I
will still wait for a signal from the maintainers team.

/KS


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Re: KDE on Sid

[Rick Friedman]

On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, [KS] wrote:
> Yes, it seems that the kde-core is almost done and I was reading
> somewhere yesterday that the Debian qt/KDE maintainers have asked other
> KDE application maintainers to start uploading their versions for 3.4.2
> 
> An apt-get -s install kde-core gives me a pretty good picture with not a
> single package being removed without installing a newer version. But I
> will still wait for a signal from the maintainers team.
> 

Hmmm... I just tried apt-get -s install kde-core and got:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
kde-core is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 231 not upgraded.

I have version 5:44 of kde-core installed. Do you see a newer version in
the sid repositories that I don't see? 

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Re: KDE on Sid

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Rick Friedman wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, [KS] wrote:
> 
>>Yes, it seems that the kde-core is almost done and I was reading
>>somewhere yesterday that the Debian qt/KDE maintainers have asked other
>>KDE application maintainers to start uploading their versions for 3.4.2
>>
>>An apt-get -s install kde-core gives me a pretty good picture with not a
>>single package being removed without installing a newer version. But I
>>will still wait for a signal from the maintainers team.
>>
> 
> 
> Hmmm... I just tried apt-get -s install kde-core and got:
> 
>   Reading package lists... Done
>   Building dependency tree... Done
>   kde-core is already the newest version.
>   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 231 not upgraded.
> 
> I have version 5:44 of kde-core installed. Do you see a newer version in
> the sid repositories that I don't see? 
> 
> Rick

Inst kde-core (5:44 Debian:unstable)

PS: I only have arts 1.3.2-4, libartsc0 1.4.2-4, kdebase-data 3.4.2-2
and kdelibs-data 3.4.2-3 installed on my system. So effectively I don't
have KDE installed (due to a system reinstall in July). I have been
waiting for the ABI transition and the 3.4 upgrade for along time :)


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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Bill Wohler]

antgel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Scott Schreiber wrote:
>> Marc Wilson wrote:
>> 
>> 
No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.
>> 
>> 
>> It is.
>
> It isn't.

Posted via gmane.linux.debian.user. If you got this via the mailing
list, that should answer your question.

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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

[jeroen]

Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what he's  
talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one of  
2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available for for  
users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its completely  
different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along difficulties in  
respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting 2.4.27 kernel is  
available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync - 
vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The full- 
width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even this  
one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3 whites the  
screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the modeline entry  
helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently (corrupts the screen and  
mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:

Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:



I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.






#gdm
returns a "command not found"


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:




jeroen wrote:




I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).




Take a look at "/etc/network/interfaces" (also "man interfaces" for
examples). Once configured, a simple "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get your
network up.





It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something  
of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for  
pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!






Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)




These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?





When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.






What other minor changes did you make?





My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/Option"XkbLayout""uk"to
-Option"XkbLayout""gb"
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/Identifier"Configured Mouse"
/Option"Emulate3Button""true"
/Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5" to
-Identifier"Configured Mouse"
-Option"Buttons""5"
-Option"ZAxisMapping""5 4"
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  "320x240" "640x480")






Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.





Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...





With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager




I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
("aptitude install icewm", etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
installed

("aptitude install xterm") and then put "icewm or "xterm" in the file
"~/.xinitrc" (you'll probably have to create the file), and then run
"startx". If you put "icewm" in "~/.initrc", Icewm should start  
up; if
you put "xterm", you should get an xterm (with no window controls;  
you

can type "exit" to shut down X in such a case).





Tried this, with both suggested wms (and both .xinitrc and .initrc  
- was this a typo or are they indeed different?), they produce the  
same white screen.

You where right that i had to create both files.
I renamed them so there never was both a .xinitrc and and .initrc  
in my ~/.





Remember that USB disk you mentioned? I bet it works with USB fobs  
as well.






Doh! Thanks for that. It's the only floppy drive i have so i have  
to plug it in and out, it works, that's most important.
I do have a problem with copying my XFree86.0.log, It gives a "-36"  
error 

Re: Desperation with Hylafax and AVM Fritz ISDN Card PCI on a debian system

[Almut Behrens]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:17:17PM +0200, Andreas Moser wrote:
> Hello Almut,
> 
> after changing the rights for the capi20 device, there was no
> difference in the delivery of the facsimile.
> Any other ideas?

Not really ;) -- well, ok, next thing I would try is to manually call
c2faxsend from the commandline.  This should help to narrow down on
which step is failing.  Try something like:

  c2faxsend -vL -C /path/to/config.faxCAPI -d DestNumber -f TIFF test.tif

(it's probably a good idea to use the example TIFF file "fritz_pic.tif"
that comes with the original package
ftp://ftp.avm.de/tools/capi4hylafax.linux/capi4hylafax-01.03.00.tar.gz
because that's guaranteed to be the correct format...)

What seems a little weird is that you don't get any messages in the
syslog about dialing out to the FAX destination number etc., in between
"CMD START /usr/local/bin/c2faxsend ..." and "CMD DONE: exit status 0".
Also, I wouldn't expect a return status of 0 (normally means OK), when
things apparently are going wrong...

Well, before we try to form any hypotheses about why that is, it might
help to know whether manually faxing out with the above command works,
in principle.  See what you get in /var/spool/hylafax/log/capi4hylafax.

Almut


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Re: Help!

[Jon Dowland]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:48:53AM -0400, George Boyce wrote:
> I'm not sure what to do from here! I typed in ENTER - no good. I tried
> LOGONstill no good! Keeps
> bringing me to  "username"@Debian1: ~$

Sorry, this reply doesn't answer your question (the others do):

We've had a lot of these queries recently. Does that suggest the
installation process needs to be adjusted slightly, to combat the
assumption a GUI environment is installed by default? Or should we be
pushing for people to read the installation docs before going ahead with
it?

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Re: mutt rocks

[Jochen Schulz]

Dave Ewart:
> On Tuesday, 06.09.2005 at 05:48 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> > Would be interesting to see users posting well commented muttrcs.
> 
> Try here for starters: http://www.dotfiles.com/index.php3?app_id=27
> 
> I personally found Sven Guckes examples very helpful when setting up
> Mutt, but the link appears to be 404 now ...

Sven has deliberately stopped to support mutt (and its users) because he
wants to enforce the development of an alternative mail reader. Anyway,
you can have a look at my mutt configuration. I set it up based on
Sven's files and I didn'ttouch most if his comments:
http://well-adjusted.de/cfg/mutt/

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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

[jeroen]

This is starting to look like a blog ;)

I installed the kernel found on the previously mentioned page (http:// 
gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html).
It doesn't look really nice. Full screen console is built in but is  
shifted (not placed correctly, with white band down the screen).  
Startx (with fvwm) works fine. That means i get to see the graphical  
login screen now... the screen itself doesn't really look nice, with  
stripes all over the place.


As mentioned in the above page the problems with the white screen  
allegedly happen with Xfree86 4.3. I'm now looking into removing the  
version i have running now and replace it with a previous version. If  
i get this to work with the standard default kernel i will be a happy  
man.


kernel compiling is a bit over the top for me right now i think.  
Maybe next week ;D


Cheers,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 20:35, jeroen wrote:

Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what he's  
talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one of  
2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available for  
for users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its completely  
different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along difficulties in  
respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting 2.4.27 kernel is  
available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync -vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The full- 
width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even this  
one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3 whites the  
screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the modeline  
entry helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently (corrupts the  
screen and mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:


Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:




I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager, I  
think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.







#gdm
returns a "command not found"


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:





jeroen wrote:





I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).





Take a look at "/etc/network/interfaces" (also "man interfaces" for
examples). Once configured, a simple "/etc/init.d/networking  
restart"
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get  
your

network up.






It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting something  
of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many thanks for  
pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!







Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)





These images look like your video settings are not suitable for your
hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?






When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.







What other minor changes did you make?






My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/Option"XkbLayout""uk"to
-Option"XkbLayout""gb"
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/Identifier"Configured Mouse"
/Option"Emulate3Button""true"
/Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5" to
-Identifier"Configured Mouse"
-Option"Buttons""5"
-Option"ZAxisMapping""5 4"
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  "320x240" "640x480")







Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.






Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...






With my limited knowledge i though i could have forgotten to add a
window manager





I don't think so; this looks like a video sync -type issue.

You can double-check this possibility by installing another wm
("aptitude install icewm", etc), or make sure you've got xterm  
in

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Re: Help!

[Glenn English]

On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 18:43 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:

> We've had a lot of these queries recently. Does that suggest the
> installation process needs to be adjusted slightly, to combat the
> assumption a GUI environment is installed by default? Or should we be
> pushing for people to read the installation docs before going ahead with
> it?

I say leave the installation process defaults as they are. 

Or maybe insert one new 'window' in the installer that says nothing
except "Do you want a graphic desktop?" And a line at the top of the
tasksel step that says "NO GRAPHIC DESKTOP" until something is selected
that installs one.

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Re: starting X makes the screen go white (newb - new install)

[jeroen]

continuing blog

i installed the x-server from woody, x starts up fine now, jeej!
i guess this issue is closed, unless this was a bad idea.

Thx for reading my ramblings,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 21:06, jeroen wrote:


This is starting to look like a blog ;)

I installed the kernel found on the previously mentioned page  
(http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html).
It doesn't look really nice. Full screen console is built in but is  
shifted (not placed correctly, with white band down the screen).  
Startx (with fvwm) works fine. That means i get to see the  
graphical login screen now... the screen itself doesn't really look  
nice, with stripes all over the place.


As mentioned in the above page the problems with the white screen  
allegedly happen with Xfree86 4.3. I'm now looking into removing  
the version i have running now and replace it with a previous  
version. If i get this to work with the standard default kernel i  
will be a happy man.


kernel compiling is a bit over the top for me right now i think.  
Maybe next week ;D


Cheers,
Jeroen

On 06 Sep 2005, at 20:35, jeroen wrote:


Could have found what's causing the issue. I have no idea what  
he's talking about though...

Looking in to it now, but any help is appreciated.

Jeroen

--- start quote ---

Framebuffer/X notes

New - I managed to replace the atyfb code of 2.4.27 with the one  
of 2.4.16. This means there are dozens of new drivers available  
for for users which need the framebuffer-patch. Due to its  
completely different design, 2.6.8.x kernels still bring along  
difficulties in respect of forward porting. Anyway, the resulting  
2.4.27 kernel is available as a deb-package.


Using kernel 2.4.16 with or without full-width console patch works  
fine with X. Mind that the following modeline is required:


ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 - 
hsync -vsync


The atyfb of 2.4.18 and later seems to have changed a lot. The  
full-width console patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore - not even  
this one. If framebuffer support is compiled in, Xfree86 4.3  
whites the screen slowly which doesn't look healthy. Not even the  
modeline entry helps. Xserver-mach64 works insufficiently  
(corrupts the screen and mouse-input is translated horribly).


I'm trying to insert the 2.4.16 atyfb code into higher kernels  
(probably 2.6.8). Results will be published here upon success.


--- end quote ---

from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/c1ve-general.html


On 06 Sep 2005, at 00:54, jeroen wrote:



Sorry if this came in double, the resend i did might have tricked  
your mail rules (it did trick mine)

Jeroen

On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:19, Oliver Lupton wrote:





I'm a newbie too, but try running 'gdm' (GNOME Display Manager,  
I think) instead of 'startx' and see how that works.








#gdm
returns a "command not found"


On 05 Sep 2005, at 22:25, Kent West wrote:






jeroen wrote:






I used apt to get me the files i needed during the installation (i
did have to do an 'ifup -a' to get the network up - and still  
have to

after every reboot - but that's slightly OT here).






Take a look at "/etc/network/interfaces" (also "man interfaces" for
examples). Once configured, a simple "/etc/init.d/networking  
restart"
(or reboot, which will run this script during bootup) should get  
your

network up.







It's getting late now, and my primary concern is getting  
something of a GUI, ifup isn't that hard to type ;). But many  
thanks for pointing me to the solution. Greatly appreciated!








Some pictures i took during this  happening can be found here:
http://www.yuru.be/debian/startx_1.jpg  (going from 1 to 6)





These images look like your video settings are not suitable for  
your

hardware; what happens if you remove that ModeLine you added?







When i comment out the modeline (and un-comment out the HorizSync  
and VertRefresh) i get the same white screen.








What other minor changes did you make?







My complete config can now be found @
http://www.yuru.be/debian/XF86Config-4

other changes i made are:

/Option"XkbLayout""uk"to
-Option"XkbLayout""gb"
Probably nothing serious or X killing, just changed it to the  
working config i found on the cam.ac.uk site


/Identifier"Configured Mouse"
/Option"Emulate3Button""true"
/Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5" to
-Identifier"Configured Mouse"
-Option"Buttons""5"
-Option"ZAxisMapping""5 4"
Same here, just copied it, hoping it would work like a charm.

Other changes are:
Adding the modeline and commenting out the HorizSync and  
VertRefresh.
The last thing i changed where all resolutions in the Display  
Subsections of the Screen Section (was  "320x240" "640x480")








Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill it from within X.







Hey cool, thanks! I was trying to do that with Ctrl-Alt-Delete...







With my limited knowledge i though i 

X won't start after kernel compile

[Bruno Buys]

I managed to compile a new 2.6.12 kernel using this howto: 
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/202.
The kernel boots ok and I have a prompt. But X won't start, with error 
'no core pointer' or something like that.
I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but the same error 
goes for every mouse option in there.
When configuring the new kernel, I tried to be economic, and removed 
lots of things that were enabled. Maybe I removed support for the 
device. The problem is, I'm having a hard time figuring which one is.

Here's the relevant part of .config:

(by the way, I have a ps2 mouse).

# Userland interfaces
#
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m
# CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768
# CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m
CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG=m

#
# Input Device Drivers
#
CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y
CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m
CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m
CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=y
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ANALOG=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_A3D=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ADI=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_COBRA=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GF2K=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP_MP=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GUILLEMOT=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_INTERACT=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SIDEWINDER=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TMDC=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_USB=y
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_232=y
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_WARRIOR=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_MAGELLAN=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEORB=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEBALL=m
CONFIG_JOYSTICK_STINGER=m
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TWIDJOY is not set
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK_JOYDUMP is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN=y
CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_GUNZE=m
# CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ELO is not set
# CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MTOUCH is not set
# CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MK712 is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_MISC=y
CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR=m
CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m

I'm using debian sarge. The 2.6.12-5 package was linux-source from 
debian unstable.


thanks!


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Re: LDAP: SSL support unavailable ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:48:18PM +0700, F.X. Harry Wardhana wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm trying to install phpldapadmin in a new linux box replacing my mandrake 
> with debian sarge 3.1 with apache 2. When i open 
> http://localhost/phpldapadmin , error message displayed:
> 
> Error
> Your install of PHP appears to be missing LDAP support. Please install LDAP 
> support before using phpLDAPadmin. (Don't forget to restart your web server 
> afterwards)
> 
> I have already install php4-ldap package.
> 
> # tail /var/log/apache2/
> [Tue Sep 06 12:42:26 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
> [Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: Built with OpenLDAP LDAP SDK
> [Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: SSL support unavailable
> 
> I also had install openssl too. Am i missing something here?
> When i try with apache version 1 phpldapadmin run very well.
> 
> Need help.. I'm newbee with debian
> 

I recently installed phpldapadmin and eneded up just using regular ldap
(non-SSL) since it is all on the local box anyways.  Couldn't figure out
how to get phpldapadmin to speak SSL.

-Roberto
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Re: LDAP: SSL support unavailable ?

[Dick Davies]

That's a message from mod_auth_ldap - it means you haven't given it a valid
CA certificate to authenticate the LDAP servers certificate against.

See mod_auth_ldap docs on httpd.apache.org

 

On 06/09/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:48:18PM +0700, F.X. Harry Wardhana wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I'm trying to install phpldapadmin in a new linux box replacing my mandrake
> > with debian sarge 3.1 with apache 2. When i open
> > http://localhost/phpldapadmin , error message displayed:
> >
> > Error
> > Your install of PHP appears to be missing LDAP support. Please install LDAP
> > support before using phpLDAPadmin. (Don't forget to restart your web server
> > afterwards)
> >
> > I have already install php4-ldap package.
> >
> > # tail /var/log/apache2/
> > [Tue Sep 06 12:42:26 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
> > [Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: Built with OpenLDAP LDAP SDK
> > [Tue Sep 06 12:42:27 2005] [notice] LDAP: SSL support unavailable
> >
> > I also had install openssl too. Am i missing something here?
> > When i try with apache version 1 phpldapadmin run very well.
> >
> > Need help.. I'm newbee with debian
> >
> 
> I recently installed phpldapadmin and eneded up just using regular ldap
> (non-SSL) since it is all on the local box anyways.  Couldn't figure out
> how to get phpldapadmin to speak SSL.
> 
> -Roberto
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> 
> 
> 


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Win 9x Clients FAIL to Connect after upgrade to Sarge!

[Lawrence Houston]

Debian USERS:

After upgrading from Woody to Sarge I find Windows 9x Client are unable to
Browse/Connect to Samba Shares!!!  Windows 2000 and Linux Clients are
working as they had before the Upgrade from Samba 2.2.X to 3.0.X, but the
Windows 9x Clients no longer see anything within their Network
Neighborhoods, fail on searches by Hostname and attempts at Network Drive
Mounts???  The Windows 9x Client are set for SHARE Mode and the Samba
3.0.X Server has Encrypted Passwords Enabled in USER Mode, with both the
Upgrade's "tdbsam" (and the original "smbuser") Backends having been
tried...  It is important my Windows 9x Clients maintain sharing over the
Private LAN, therefore I am NOT looking forward to returning my Router to
Woody unless this issue really can NOT be resolved???

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apache2 vs. apache-perl

[Daniel McBrearty]

Any idea what the essential differences are betwen installing these 2 debian
packages? I have used apache-perl without too many hitches on my home machine,
my new server came with apache2 preinstalled.

I'm wondering whether this will cause me extra work in deploying my project, and
hence whether to go to the trouble of removing 2 and replaicing with perl.


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Re: X won't start after kernel compile

[Simo Kauppi]

Hi,

Are you using the legacy device (/dev/psaux) in your XF86Config-4? If
so, you need to change it to /dev/input/mice, since you don't have the
/dev/psaux in your kernel.

The section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 looks something like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Simo

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 03:45:26PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
> I managed to compile a new 2.6.12 kernel using this howto: 
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/202.
> The kernel boots ok and I have a prompt. But X won't start, with error 
> 'no core pointer' or something like that.
> I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but the same error 
> goes for every mouse option in there.
> When configuring the new kernel, I tried to be economic, and removed 
> lots of things that were enabled. Maybe I removed support for the 
> device. The problem is, I'm having a hard time figuring which one is.
> Here's the relevant part of .config:
> 
> (by the way, I have a ps2 mouse).
> 
> # Userland interfaces
> #
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m
> # CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768
> # CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set
> # CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG=m
> 
> #
> # Input Device Drivers
> #
> CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y
> CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
> CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
> CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m
> CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ANALOG=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_A3D=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ADI=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_COBRA=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GF2K=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP_MP=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GUILLEMOT=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_INTERACT=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SIDEWINDER=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TMDC=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_USB=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_232=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_WARRIOR=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_MAGELLAN=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEORB=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEBALL=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_STINGER=m
> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TWIDJOY is not set
> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_JOYDUMP is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN=y
> CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_GUNZE=m
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ELO is not set
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MTOUCH is not set
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MK712 is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MISC=y
> CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m
> 
> I'm using debian sarge. The 2.6.12-5 package was linux-source from 
> debian unstable.
> 
> thanks!

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Re: changing window managers

[Larry Fletcher]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:10:11AM -0700, Larry Fletcher wrote:
> > After looking around some more I found out the x-session-manager works
> > for startx, but it's not updated when new window managers are
> > installed.  The x-session-manager updates:
> > /etc/alternatives/@x-session-manager

> Why should the session manager symlink be changed by a window manager?

> > The x-window-manager is updated when new window managers are
> > installed, so maybe @x-session-manager should link to
> > @x-window-manager?

> No - x-session-manager should point to a session manager, and
> x-window-manager to a window manager, respectively.

> If you have a ~/.xsession file, you may have specified a window manager
> in it.

I didn't have a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file.

> Otherwise, odds are the symlink from /usr/bin/x-window-manager is
> being used.

Okay.  Now I see there is a difference between a session
manager and a window manager.  Apparently some window managers
have session managers and need them to run properly and some
window managers don't use them.  The problem was I installed
a window manager that didn't install a session manager and
since the old session manager was still installed the new
window manager wouldn't run.

I also found it interesting that ~/.xinitrc takes precedence
over ~/.xsession, and x-session-manager takes precedence over
x-window-manager.  So it doesn't work to use both ~/.xsession
and ~/.xinitrc.  The best option seems to be to put the session
manager in ~/.xsession and not use ~/.xinitrc.  And if there is
no session manager, to put the window manager in ~/.xsession.
Either that or learn how to configure x-session-manager and
x-window-manager.

   Larry


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Re: apache2 vs. apache-perl

[Peter J Ross]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:55:40PM +, Daniel McBrearty wrote:

> Any idea what the essential differences are betwen installing these 2 debian
> packages? I have used apache-perl without too many hitches on my home machine,
> my new server came with apache2 preinstalled.
> 
> I'm wondering whether this will cause me extra work in deploying my project, 
> and
> hence whether to go to the trouble of removing 2 and replaicing with perl.

apache-perl is a version of Apache 1.3.x that includes the Perl module.

apache2 is a version of Apache 2.0.x that doesn't include the Perl
module, which is available separately as apache2-mod-perl2.

So you can either downgrade to Apache 1.3 with Perl, or install the
Perl module.

For more information, read the package descriptions in aptitude or at
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Re: firefox won't download files

[Vegard|drageV]

On 06/09/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 03:10:42AM +0200, Vegard|drageV wrote:
> > When I click on a link to a file  (.iso .pdf .ps  etc.) on the www,
> > firefox will not download or open the file. The file never appears in
> > the "download list". I tried with mozilla browser and it worked. How
> > do I fix firefox??
> >
> > Firefox version: 1.0.4
> > Debian Sarge, kernel 2.4.27-2-686
> >
> Which version of firefox?  1.0.4-2, 1.0.4-2sarge1, 1.0.4-2sarge2, or
> 1.0.4-2sarge3?  If you are not on 1.0.4-2sarge3, then get that one, as
> it backs out some previous bad patches.
> 
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1.0.4-2sarge3 did it, thanks!!!

can't open lp device

[Haines Brown]

I've returned to this problem after struggling with other matters. I'm
running kernel 2.6.8-2-686 with sarge. I've installed lprng.

I plug in the usb cable into a hub I know is working, and find:

in kern.log:

  kernel: usb 2-4.1: new full speed USB device using address 6
  teufel kernel: ehci_hcd :00:02.1: qh f6b1f200 (#0) state 1
  kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer 
dev 6 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x0052

in syslog:

  kernel: usb 2-4.1: new full speed USB device using address 6
  kernel: ehci_hcd :00:02.1: qh f6b1f200 (#0) state 1
  kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer 
dev 6 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x0052
  usb.agent[5644]: usblp: already loaded

in messages:

  kernel: usb 2-4.1: new full speed USB device using address 6
  kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer 
dev 6 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x0052
  usb.agent[5644]:  usblp: already loaded

I check printcap: 

  # checkpc -p
  Warning - lp: cannot open lp device '/dev/lp0' - No such device or
address 

  $ ls -l /dev/lp0
  crw-rw  1 root lp 6, 0 Jul 31 18:54 /dev/lp0

I'm very uncertain about printcap. Any obvious errors here?

  # cat /etc/printcap
  lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:filter=/usr/lib/lprng/filters/lpf:\
:ifhp=model=lexmark_optra_e312:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
:pl#66:\
:pw#80:\
:pc#150:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

  $ cat /etc/group | grep lp
  lp:x:7:brownh

In /var/spool/lpr/lp, the print job sits. The file associated with the
job is:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  attempt=0x2
  C=A
  D=2005-09-06-17:42:19.553
  datafile_count=1
  datafiles=dfA826teufel.hartford-hwp.com 
  error_time=0x0
  file_hostname=teufel.hartford-hwp.com
  filenames=/opt/tmp/test.txt
  H=teufel.hartford-hwp.com
  held=0x0
  hf_name=hfA826
  hfdatafiles=copies=0x1dftransfername=dfA826teufel.hartford-hwp.com \ 
format=fN=/opt/tmp/test.txtsize=5

  hold_class=0x0
  hold_time=0x0
  J=/opt/tmp/test.txt
  job_time=0x431e0d3b
  job_time_usec=0x87cce
  number=826
  P=root
  printable=0x1
  priority=A
  Q=lp
  remotehost=localhost.localdomain
  remoteport=0x0
  server=5837
  size=5
  start_time=0x431e0dd1
  unixsocket=0x1
  update_time=2005-09-06-17:44:49.540
 
  $ lsmod | grep parport_pc 
  parport_pc 36900  0 
  parport41800  2 parport_pc,lp

I worry that in my zeal to block ports in my firewall, I may have
killed the ability of the print server to communicate.

Haines Brown
 


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Re: Is NTFS file system (Win2k) stable and usable with debian sarge?

[Colin Ingram]

Greg Madden wrote:


On Sunday 04 September 2005 10:05 am, J. Grant wrote:
 


[Please include my email address in replies]

I'm dual booting with win2k, I have a small FAT32 partition, which I
mount and transfer files via.  It is ok, but limited to 2GB per file
max.  I understand that NTFS allows me to transfer bigger files.

Is NTFS support at a level where it is usable and stable for me to
copy files etc?  I don't want to corrupt the partition each time I
write something to it etc..

Tips appreciated.

Kind regards
JG

Linux now2g 2.6.8-2-k7 #1 Mon Jan 24 03:29:52 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
   



A different approach, if you need to rw > 2gb files. Don't dual boot, 
run Windows in Vmware or equal and use Samba to transfer the files.
 

Doesn't smbmount limit file transfers to 2GB though?  



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Re: apache2 vs. apache-perl

[Nicos Gollan]

On Tuesday September 6 2005 21:55, Daniel McBrearty wrote:
> I'm wondering whether this will cause me extra work in deploying my
> project, and hence whether to go to the trouble of removing 2 and
> replaicing with perl.

If your project uses mod_perl 1, you will probably run into some difficulties. 
mod_perl 2 uses a different API, so you'll have to change some bits. The 
website at http://perl.apache.org has a migration guide which you should read 
before upgrading.

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Cron runs out of control

[David Harrison]

Hi all,

I've got a Debian sarge machine, and while I've gone through and removed
pretty much everything from :

/etc/crontab
/etc/cron.*
/var/spool/cron/*

if I give cron even a single small job to run, it goes crazy and chews
up all the CPU cycles (and also doesn't respond to being stopped via the
init script - I have to kill it to get rid of it).

I've tried attaching strace to cron, but nothing useful came of it.

Has anyone seen this behaviour before ?

Cheers
Dave


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Re: Is NTFS file system (Win2k) stable and usable with debian sarge?

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On 9/6/05, Colin Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
>A different approach, if you need to rw > 2gb files. Don't dual boot,>run Windows in Vmware or equal and use Samba to transfer the files.>>Doesn't smbmount limit file transfers to 2GB though?
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Re: X won't start after kernel compile

[Jaime Armendáriz Villalba]

I've just had the same problem today. The solution has been, changing:

# CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set

to is set

You will have to reboot, and there will be your /dev/psaux again

2005/9/6, Simo Kauppi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,Are you using the legacy device (/dev/psaux) in your XF86Config-4? Ifso, you need to change it to /dev/input/mice, since you don't have the/dev/psaux in your kernel.The section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 looks something like this:
Section "InputDevice"Identifier  "Configured Mouse"Driver  "mouse"Option  "CorePointer"Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"Option  "Emulate3Buttons"  
"true"Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4
5"EndSectionSimoOn Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 03:45:26PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:> I managed to compile a new 2.6.12 kernel using this howto:> 
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/202.> The kernel boots ok and I have a prompt. But X won't start, with error> 'no core pointer' or something like that.> I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but the same error
> goes for every mouse option in there.> When configuring the new kernel, I tried to be economic, and removed> lots of things that were enabled. Maybe I removed support for the> device. The problem is, I'm having a hard time figuring which one is.
> Here's the relevant part of .config:>> (by the way, I have a ps2 mouse).>> # Userland interfaces> #> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m> # CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768> # CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set> # CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set> CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m> CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG=m
>> #> # Input Device Drivers> #> CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y> CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y> CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m> CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m> CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m> CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=y> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ANALOG=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_A3D=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ADI=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_COBRA=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GF2K=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP_MP=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GUILLEMOT=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_INTERACT=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SIDEWINDER=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TMDC=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_USB=y> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_232=y> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_WARRIOR=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_MAGELLAN=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEORB=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEBALL=m> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_STINGER=m> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TWIDJOY is not set> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_JOYDUMP is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN=y> CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_GUNZE=m> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ELO is not set> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MTOUCH is not set> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MK712 is not set> CONFIG_INPUT_MISC=y
> CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR=m> CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m>> I'm using debian sarge. The 2.6.12-5 package was linux-source from> debian unstable.>> thanks!--:r ~/.signature
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Re: Cron runs out of control

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have you tried to remove cron an reinstall ?? maybe some file is corrupted.

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PS/2 mouse not working with USB legacy option enabled in Kernel 2.6

[Kushal Koolwal]

Hi,

I have been using Debian 3.1 (Sarge) with kernel 2.6.8-2-386 on my Pentium M 
system. A couple of days ago I noticed that my PS/2 mouse won't work when I 
enable the 'Legacy USB' option in my BIOS setting. If I disable the 'Legacy 
USB' option, my PS/2 mouse works fine along with USB mouse. My USB mouse 
works fine in both the situation i.e. when the 'Legacy USB' is 
enable/disable I have tried the workarounds like:


psmouse.proto=imps and i8042.nomux as kernel boot parameters but it didn;t 
help.


I did a lot of researching over the Internet and then I found that it is 
because in Kernel 2.6 they have moved the drivers into the kernel space from 
the user space. Unfortunately I was not able to find a solution how to get 
the PS/2 mouse working with USB Legacy option enabled in the BIOS.


Also, I have tried the following link but I was not successful.
http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee/fun/psaux/

Also the following links reports that it is a bug but apparently no clear 
solution has been given.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120859
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=137691

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I will be glad to post any diagnostic output like:
cat /proc/bus/input/devices
lspci -xvvv
dmidecode
etc


Kushal Koolwal



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mutt sucks

[Ben Pearre]

Made ya look!  Actually I love Mutt, mostly...

I know this thread is increasingly off-topic, but I'm going to throw
in my one Mutt annoyance and see if anyone has a solution.  I asked on
mutt-user a couple of years ago and got no useful reply...

How do I tell Mutt to PGP-encrypt any message for which all recipients
have keys in my keyring?  I think Kmail does this, so it's really an
embarassment that Mutt doesn't (didn't?)  support it.  Any hints?  Use
the Source, Cuke?  I was starting in on that but got distracted by
research.  D'oh!

Cheers :)
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python-scientific

[Taro Sato]

Hi.  I'm trying to install python-scientific package, but I get a
weird error in the process.  It appears the python package does get
installed but not cleanly.  I'm not sure this is the right place to
post, but I'd appreciate if you could forward this to an appropriate
list or point me to the right direction.

Thanks.

## BEGIN OUTPUT 
poo:~# apt-get install python-scientific
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Suggested packages:
  python-scientific-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-scientific
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/101kB of archives.
After unpacking 598kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package python-scientific.
(Reading database ... 84315 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking python-scientific (from .../python-scientific_2.4.9-2_all.deb) ...
Setting up python-scientific (2.4.9-2) ...
Compiling /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/scipy/stats/__init__.py ...
Sorry: IndentationError: ('expected an indented block',
('/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/scipy/stats/__init__.py', 11, 6,
'except ImportError:\n'))
dpkg: error processing python-scientific (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 python-scientific
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
poo:~#  
## END OUTPUT ##

Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Scott]

antgel wrote:
> Scott Schreiber wrote:
> 
>>Marc Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.
>>
>>
>>It is.
> 
> 
> It isn't.

Well my experience is that my repeated posts to the NG fell on deaf
ears, but when I sent the very same message to the email address, I got
answers to my question.  I thought I read somewhere that it was one-way,
but I can't seem to find anything on it right now.

Scott


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Re: X won't start after kernel compile

[Bruno Buys]

   Hi Jaime and Simo,
   I happen to be more stupid than I previously thought. My mouse is a 
serial. I had disabled serial stuff on .config. Now, recompiled and 
2.12-5 is working ok with X.
   That's actually the first time I try to compile kernels. Funny thing 
to do. Do you guys know any literature that can be recommended for a 
newb on compiling-kernel (debian way)? I don't know exactly how I access 
kernel efficiency. How much of an improvement am I supposed to 
experience by compiling custom kernels? How do I benchmark it?
   What I noticed so far is: the image vmlinuz 2.12 is 1.290.903kb and 
k7 (stock kernel) is 1.151.346kb. Wasn't my custom kernel to be smaller? 
Initrd, on the other side, does differ: 1.560.576kb for the custom and 
4.608.000kb for the stock k7. Custom takes less time to boot, but after 
that, it just seems like any kernel.

Any guidance?
Thanks!



Jaime Armendáriz Villalba wrote:


I've just had the same problem today. The solution has been, changing:

# CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set

to is set

You will have to reboot, and there will be your /dev/psaux again



2005/9/6, Simo Kauppi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:

Hi,

Are you using the legacy device (/dev/psaux) in your XF86Config-4? If
so, you need to change it to /dev/input/mice, since you don't have the
/dev/psaux in your kernel.

The section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 looks something like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Simo

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 03:45:26PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
> I managed to compile a new 2.6.12 kernel using this howto:
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/202.
> The kernel boots ok and I have a prompt. But X won't start, with
error
> 'no core pointer' or something like that.
> I already tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but the
same error
> goes for every mouse option in there.
> When configuring the new kernel, I tried to be economic, and removed
> lots of things that were enabled. Maybe I removed support for the
> device. The problem is, I'm having a hard time figuring which
one is.
> Here's the relevant part of .config:
>
> (by the way, I have a ps2 mouse).
>
> # Userland interfaces
> #
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m
> # CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768
> # CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set
> # CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG=m
>
> #
> # Input Device Drivers
> #
> CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y
> CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set
> # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
> CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
> CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m
> CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ANALOG=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_A3D=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_ADI=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_COBRA=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GF2K=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GRIP_MP=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GUILLEMOT=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_INTERACT=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SIDEWINDER=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TMDC=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_USB=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_IFORCE_232=y
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_WARRIOR=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_MAGELLAN=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEORB=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_SPACEBALL=m
> CONFIG_JOYSTICK_STINGER=m
> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_TWIDJOY is not set
> # CONFIG_JOYSTICK_JOYDUMP is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN=y
> CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_GUNZE=m
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ELO is not set
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MTOUCH is not set
> # CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MK712 is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_MISC=y
> CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR=m
> CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m
>
> I'm using debian sarge. The 2.6.12-5 package was linux-source from
> debian unstable.
>
> thanks!

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Re: missing gnome menu items

[Angelo Bertolli]

Seeker5528 wrote:


On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:20:17 -0400
Angelo Bertolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Thanks, I tried it out, but it still didn't seem to correct the 
problem.  I am still missing gnome sessions and screensaver settings.
   



Usually the next steps I would take would be to check the file system
for errors. I keep a copy of System Rescue CD around for these kinds of
things:

http://www.sysresccd.org/

: check the man page for the fsck that is appropriate for your file
system fsck.ext2, fsck.ext3, reiserfsck, etc...:

man fsck.ext3

: shows you need the -f switch to force the disk to be checked even
if it is marked clean. After checking the disk the next thing would be
to install/reinstall packages that seem like they might be relavant, in
this case doing:

apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl
gnome-control-center

If you are running sarge or etch then add capplets and capplets-data to
that list. If you are running sid add capplets-data and gnome-menus to
the list.

If that still doesn't do it my next temptation would be to purge
capplets-data and which ever other package is appropriate capplets or
gnome-menus and install them again doing something like:

dpkg --purge --force-depends capplets capplets-data

apt-get install capplets capplets-data
 

Thanks.  I tried this, but it didn't help.  Any other ideas?  Where are 
the gnome menus kept?



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Re: Is it safe to dist-upgrade kde* now?

[Brendon Lloyd Higgins]

Kim Adil wrote (Tuesday 06 September 2005 4:56 pm):
> Subject says it all I think.  I and many others had to roll back, and I
> was advised to hold back. How will I know when to proceed?

From my experience, the answer is "nearly" or "almost". Some things still 
haven't been compiled on the new ABI and so will conflict. Most things, 
however, and the majority of the KDE packages, are ready.

A couple of days ago I bit the bullet and upgraded. I had to remove a number 
of packages that hadn't been updated yet, like superkaramba, lyx-qt, koffice, 
and kwin-baghira, among ~50 others. But for me, I think losing them (only 
temporarily, I expect) was worth it.

Most of the functional stuff is there and ready, but not all of it. Unless 
you're really eager to transition, like I was, it's probably best to wait 
until we're given the official "all clear", which, depending on how soon some 
maintainers get the rear into gear, may be a week or more, yet.

Peace,
Brendon

PS: Many cheers to all the maintainers involved in pulling off this, and all 
the other simultaneous transitions so smoothly!


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Re: Mutt and html [was: Compiling Kernel for Bootsplash...]

[Peter J Ross]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 06:44:21AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 05:06:22PM -0700, James Vahn wrote:
> > David Jardine wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:09:31PM +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 16:36 -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> > >> > Any way, have you any advice
> > >> 
> > >> not using HTML...
> > > 
> > > Using mutt, I see no html.  Is this a bug or a feature of mutt?  
> > > (I do often get html attachments - and also quite a lot of html 
> > > source code from spammers.)
> > 
> > I use tin here (localhost fed from gmane) and it seems his message was an
> > encoded blob, which I could only see by hitting ctrl-h to view the raw
> > message and its headers:
> > 
> >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252
> >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >  Content-Disposition: inline
> > 
> >  
> > QmVmb3JlIEkgZ28gYW55IGZ1cnRoZXIsIHllcywgSSBuZWVkIGJvb3RzcGxhc2g6IE15IGNvbXB1
> >  
> > dGVyIGlzIGR1YWwtYm9vdCAKYW5kIHRoZSBvdGhlciB1c2VyIGluc2lzdHMgb24gQTogVXNpbmcg
> >  
> > IEkgc2hhbGwgYmUgZ2V0dGluZyBhIGxhcC10b3Agc29vbi4gKEJ5IHRoZSBieWUsIHdoeSAKZG9l
> > 
> > Mutt probably saw "Content-Disposition: inline" and acted appropriately.
> 
> And "text/plain".  So where did the html idea come from?

From the text/html part of the multipart message. The poster who saw
the html part is using Evolution, which I've never used, but which
probably has a configuration setting to prefer the text version of a
multipart message.

Drifting further off-topic, I notice that Mozilla Thunderbird defaults
to sending html email. This seems a very odd choice to me, especially
for the Linux version. In the Windows version, I can understand that
the intention is to give users weaned from OE what they're used to,
but it certainly isn't what users of other Linux mail clients are used
to.

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Roel Schroeven]

Scott wrote:


antgel wrote:


Scott Schreiber wrote:



Marc Wilson wrote:





No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.



It is.



It isn't.



Well my experience is that my repeated posts to the NG fell on deaf
ears, but when I sent the very same message to the email address, I got
answers to my question.  I thought I read somewhere that it was one-way,
but I can't seem to find anything on it right now.


I remember a similar discussion from about half a year ago (or maybe 
more). Some people thought the gateway was one-way, others insisted it 
works both ways.


My posts to the newsgroup never appeared on the mailing list, so I stood 
firmly in the camp of the non-believers. Now maybe it's possible that 
the gateway works both ways but that there's something else wrong, such 
as incorrectly configure news servers at ISP's.


Whatever the case, newsgroup to ML doesn't work for many people. I 
started using gmane, which works both ways without problems, and I never 
looked back.


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Re: Is it safe to dist-upgrade kde* now?

[Peter J Ross]

On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:43:39PM +1000, Brendon Lloyd Higgins wrote:

> Kim Adil wrote (Tuesday 06 September 2005 4:56 pm):
> > Subject says it all I think.  I and many others had to roll back, and I
> > was advised to hold back. How will I know when to proceed?
> 
> From my experience, the answer is "nearly" or "almost". Some things still 
> haven't been compiled on the new ABI and so will conflict. Most things, 
> however, and the majority of the KDE packages, are ready.

I assume, rightly or wrongly, that it will be officially considered
ready when the metapackages, such as kde and kdecore, are upgraded to
depend on 3.4.2 instead of 3.3.2.

> A couple of days ago I bit the bullet and upgraded. I had to remove a number 
> of packages that hadn't been updated yet, like superkaramba, lyx-qt, koffice, 
> and kwin-baghira, among ~50 others. But for me, I think losing them (only 
> temporarily, I expect) was worth it.

I now have a KDE 3.4.2 desktop with Konqueror, Konsole, KMail, KNode,
K3B, Kate, KSokoban, KPDF, KGPG and a few other things. The only
program I use regularly that's still unavailable to me is Rosegarden4,
which I expect will take some time yet.

If a package doesn't use the 3.3.2/3.4.2 version system, an easy way
to check whether it can be installed with KDE 3.4.2 is to see if it
still depends on kdelibs4. The upgraded packages depend on kdelibs4c2
instead.

> Most of the functional stuff is there and ready, but not all of it. Unless 
> you're really eager to transition, like I was, it's probably best to wait 
> until we're given the official "all clear", which, depending on how soon some 
> maintainers get the rear into gear, may be a week or more, yet.
> 
> Peace,
> Brendon
> 
> PS: Many cheers to all the maintainers involved in pulling off this, and all 
> the other simultaneous transitions so smoothly!

It's been a pleasure to watch the orderly way in which KDE 3.4.2 has
gone from "totally broken" to "almost completely functional" in just a
few days. Cheers indeed!

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Re: sendmail trouble

[James Vahn]

Bob Proulx wrote:
> I also ran Sendmail for years.  It was a good mailer in its day and
> has set the standard.  But unfortunately it has had a long history of
> security vulnerabilities.  Mostly this one thing is what has driven
> people away from it.

Sendmail/Exim/Postfix/Smail have all had security vulnerabilities
reported as recent as this year.

> Of course now most people use the m4 macros to make this much easier. 
> But being macros you are really not getting away from the underlying
> language and for many things you will still need to work with the low
> level sendmail language.

The examples I can think of are very few. Using m4 macro's is not
complicated.. Exim is complicated.

> But for example Postfix follows the unix paradigm and has
> many smaller programs that do targeted tasks. Very few of the programs
> run with elevated privilege.

I run mailq/runq once in a while, the former is a user command. I'm
unsure why sendmail runs as root if exim/postfix don't.

Well, I'm not exactly convinced that anyone should be saying anything
like "dump sendmail, run postfix or exim" (a poor quote, sorry). Do they
have nice config/setup programs? I don't like sendmail's very much, it
requires manually editing sendmail.conf. Not a particularly difficult
task, but still.. :(

~# dpkg-reconfigure sendmail  ...Doesn't work.



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Can't recover sound

[Victor Munoz]

Hello.

Sometimes I can't hear any sound (xmms, mplayer, play), getting things like
'Device or resource busy'. This happened in woody, now in sarge, sometimes
in sid, and everytime it happens, I do a Google search to try to find a
solution smarter than rebooting, but never find an answer, so I have to
reboot.

So the question is: How can I recover sound in this situation? Yesterday it
happened, for instance. There was no xmms, mplayer, play, skype, realplay or
whatever I could remember involving sound running in the background. I don't
run esd. But still, I could not play any movie or hear any sound from xmms.
I tried removing/reloading sound modules, but everytime I tried, it
complained that the module is being used and cannot be removed. There
doesn't seem to be a rmmod -f option. 

Is there a way to know which program is using the sound modules, so 
I can kill that, or any other way to recover a 'clean sound state' without
rebooting? There should be, but Google has not been my friend, probably for
my inability to make the right question.

Regards,

Victor


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OT: history of science Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:41:52AM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote:

> If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood
> on the shoulders of giants.  -- Isaac Newton

A slam at his dwarfish rival, Hooke, and not modesty.
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Re: sendmail trouble

[Alvin Oga]

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, James Vahn wrote:

> Sendmail/Exim/Postfix/Smail have all had security vulnerabilities
> reported as recent as this year.

yup ... xxx is not usually better than yyy for certain metrics ..
- being better at one thing doesn't mean its "better" in general

- a working system is my "metric" for what works and how long it takes
  to get there, and how many vulnerabilities was in fact exploited
  successfully in the same time period ( last 3 mon, last year )
- people should hopefully learn from grandpa sendmail mistakes

> The examples I can think of are very few. Using m4 macro's is not
> complicated.. Exim is complicated.

m4 is trivially simple, once you figure out what to put where
at least in terms of sendmail macros

editing sendmail.cf directly implies either you're an expert or the 
town [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)  -- and should NOT be the reason why xxx mta is 
better

- i played with postfix/exim/qmail/smail ...
and they all have "config" problems ... most do not work
out of the box by simply installing it but its getting there

- than add messy things like which antispam and antivirus
and you got more config headaches

> Well, I'm not exactly convinced that anyone should be saying anything
> like "dump sendmail, run postfix or exim" (a poor quote, sorry). Do they

yup... unless it addresses a particular problem/feature that the other
mta does nto support

> have nice config/setup programs? 

huh ?? what's that ... :-)

though if one takes a step back.. it should be trivial to make an mta-gui
- you need to know the domain name
- you need to know what the outside world see as your outgoing
  email server ( mail.xxx.com )
- you need to know what other domains this mta supports
- you need to know which rbl you want to use if any
- you need to know which antivirus app you want to use if any
click ok to run ...

> I don't like sendmail's very much, it
> requires manually editing sendmail.conf. Not a particularly difficult
> task, but still.. :(

yup.. but in 1 minutes.. you're completely done w/ antispam

c ya
alvin


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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

[Marc Wilson]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:39:26PM +, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
> On 2005-09-06, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > No and yes (mostly).  But the gateway is used to be one-way, where what you
> > posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML.  I have no idea if that's still
> > the case.
> 
> Let's see. I'm posting this to the newsgroup, and I am subscribed
> to linux-gate at lists.bofh.it .

Well, that seems to answer that... the gateway is bi-directional. :)

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

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Don't forget gmane.org.

Re: missing gnome menu items

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I don't know if this is related, but when I upgraded some GNOME
packages a while back, the menus got changed up a lot.  I think I got
the GNOME 2.10 menu arrangement, while still using other GNOME
packages from 2.8.  So I lost my custom menu entries, and the ability
to edit said menus, but a lot of KDE apps now show up in my GNOME
menus.  I assume when 2.10 makes it into testing that will help.  :)

Re: Is NTFS file system (Win2k) stable and usable with debian sarge?

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Check out Captive, which lets you run the Windows NTFS drivers in
Linux.  It's included in Knoppix and other live CD distros.

Re: ALSA setup fails for user

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On 9/6/05, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 9/5/05, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > AFAIK, the interface being used is ALSA.  :)  I don't think ALSA
> > cares about anything in /dev.
> 
> Interesting. Where would that interface be located?

Um...in the kernel, I think.  :)  I don't know if there's a way to
interact with it via the command line.

> > So if you reboot, sound doesn't work, but if you then reconfigure
> > ALSA, it does work?
> 
> Yes, I just re-verified that. I compared lsmod before and after
> reconfiguration, and I believe all modules get with boot.
> 
> I had some others loaded before rebooting - snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi,
> snd_seq_midievent, snd_seq), but that may have been effect of my
> fiddling. Right now (after doing alsaconf), aplay works without
> them.

What do you mean, "get with boot"?

If aplay works, that's...well, good I guess.  :)  I assume you're
running it as a non-root user, right?
 
> I created the ~/.asoundrc file and put into it a simple configuration,
> which seems to be just to redefine defaults. However, not knowing
> where my problem lies, I don't know what I'd need to define here.

AFAIK, sound should work without a .asoundrc file, unless you have a
(at least slightly) weird setup.

> Re. XMMS
> 
> > > And no sound. In ~/.xmms/config I have:
> > >
> > > pcm_device=default
> > > mixer_card=0
> > > mixer_device=PCM
> > >
> > If you haven't already, you should install XMMS's ALSA output
> > module.  I think it's in apt, unless it's included with XMMS's base
> > package, in which case you just need to choose it in XMMS's
> > preferences.
> 
> You've lost me. In base package, dpkg -L lists a lot of libraries,
> such as /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so. In xmms, options,
> preferences, under audio O/0 plugins, I have a list of input plugins
> that includes Wave Player (livwav.so). If I select it, the Enable
> plugin get checked, but when I restart xmms, it is no longer
> enabled. As for output plugin, I have selected ALSA output plugin
> (libALSA.so).
> 
> When I start xmms I get:
> 
>   Message: device: default
> 
> and when I try to play a .wav file, appended is:
> 
>   Message: alsa mixer timed out
> 
> But lsmod does not list libALSA. And #insmod libALSA.so reports it
> can't be found. And # insmod /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA reports that
> "no such file", even though it's there.

Ok, whoa, whoa.  First thing, those libALSA.so files are for XMMS, not
for the kernel.  They don't need to be inserted into the kernel.  :) 
Second, when you do need to load a kernel module, you should use
modprobe, not insmod.

Have you looked at the settings for the XMMS ALSA output module?  See
what's listed in the "Audio device" box.  Try choosing different
devices; could be that you just have the wrong one chosen.

Have you tried other audio players?  Rhythmbox, amarok, or just a
simple MP3 player besides XMMS?  How about video players?  What about
other apps that play sound, but are not sound-playing apps per se?

Right now I'm guessing it's one of two things:

1. You have the wrong device chosen in XMMS, or
2. There is a problem with how ALSA is working with your sound card. 
You may need to configure it more specifically (.asoundrc, or maybe
amixer?), or you may need to update ALSA itself.  I did notice last
night in the ALSA changelog on the ALSA site that the very latest
version changed something in the detection of one of the Audigy cards;
perhaps you could compile and install ALSA yourself (not something I'd
want to do myself, but if you have no other choice...perhaps you could
use deb-src and have it build it the Debian package maintainer's way
but with the latest sources...but that's getting over my head).

Re: ALSA setup fails for user

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By the way, have you Googled for other people using Linux and your
exact sound card?  Anyone else having problems, or successes?