Re: Allow root to telnet

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead
It's probably easier to set up ssh, and access as a normal user and the
su.

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On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Michael Watts wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am having trouble with a few services and want to allow root to telnet
> to a Debian 2.2r5 system for testing purposes, but can not find the way
> to allow this to happen.
>
> I have had a look through the man pages, and looked into /etc/securetty
> but get stuck there. Do I have to add an entry for telnet to securetty
> to allow root to login that way? Or is it done elsewhere??
>
> Also, how would I allow telnet to accessed on more than one port at a
> time. I may need to allow it on port 23 and (omniback backup
> software port), but can only seem to allow one or the other, not both.
> How can I allow both 23 and  to accept telnet?
>
> Any answers would be better than none.
> Thanks
> Mike W
>
>
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Re: mutt and my email address

2002-04-18 Thread Mike Thompson

at the end of /etc/exim/exim.conf write

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Ffr

or similar.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:09:28PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> Greetings,
>   Okay, so I'm trying to transition off of pine and Microsoft Outlook and
> move to mutt.  I've got most things tweaked the way I like them, but the I
> can't seem to find a configuration that works for changing my 'from' email
> address.  I use a dyndns.org hostname for my machine, but I want people to
> see my address to be from another domain (that I have pointed at the same
> box).  According to the man page, it uses the EMAIL environment variable,
> but setting/changing it seems to make no difference.  I've also put "set
> use_domain=yes" and "set hostname = domainthatiwant.org" in my .muttrc, but
> those don't seem to help either.  What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brooks
> 
> 
> 
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xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Kahle
I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months.  This is installed
on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.

I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a lightweight
window manager.  I managed to get everything working fine, but when I
launch XConsole it won't let me put any input into the xconsole window.
 When I'm root I get a blank window and when selected I try and type
and just get beeps every time a key is pressed.  When I am logged in
as my user account, I still get the beeps but the window says, "Couldn't
Open Console".  Any ideas?

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conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread Zain Halai
Hey,
I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?
Thank you in advance.

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Re: view output of process while

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead
And there is always vncserver.

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On 17 Apr 2002, Dave Carrigan wrote:

> Rory Campbell-Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Is it possible to log back into a machine over ssh and 'attach' to a
> > running process so that one can see the output of, say, a kernel
> > compile?
>
> If you find that you often need to reattach to processes between ssh
> sessions, look into running screen. It lets you detach and reattach to
> any number of long-lived processes.
>
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Re: Mouse problem

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead
Thanks to everyone who responded regarding the mouse problem.  I fixed the
problem by changing XF86Config as follows, along with a new link from
/dev/mouse and - killing gpm.  I don't use any program that run it, and
don't know what programs do, and missed the fact that it was installed by
default.

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol"PS/2"
   Device  "/dev/mouse"
#   BaudRate1200
#   Emulate3Timeout 50
#   Resolution  100
   Buttons 3
#   Emulate3Buttons
EndSection



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On 17 Apr 2002, John Hasler wrote:

> Andy writes:
> > That is correct and mentioned on the Debian website - potato is no longer
> > being actively maintained.
>
> Potato _is_ being actively maintained, and will continue to be until Woody
> is released.  It is just not having new packages or new versions of old
> packages added.  Security fixes and other critical fixes are being
> backported.
>


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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Michael Kahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months.  This is installed
> on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.
> 
> I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a lightweight
> window manager.  I managed to get everything working fine, but when I
> launch XConsole it won't let me put any input into the xconsole window.
>  When I'm root I get a blank window and when selected I try and type
> and just get beeps every time a key is pressed.  When I am logged in
> as my user account, I still get the beeps but the window says, "Couldn't
> Open Console".  Any ideas?

Well, 'man xconsole' says that xconsole is there to monitor messages
which would usually go to /dev/console.  Why are you trying to type
input into it then?

It also says that the option -exitOnFail means that it will die
immediately if it couldn't open the console - is this inability to
open the console what the message, 'Couldn't open console' is also
referring to?  If so, then I would say that it can't open the console,
probably because only root has the privileges to do so on your system.

What are you trying to use xconsole for?  Why do you need it?  If you
want a terminal then you are looking for xterm, or rxvt, or
gnome-terminal, or konsole, or eterm, or rxvt-xterm, or wterm, or any
of a host of others.

HTH
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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 18-Apr-2002 Michael Kahle wrote:
> I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months.  This is installed
> on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.
> 
> I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a lightweight
> window manager.  I managed to get everything working fine, but when I
> launch XConsole it won't let me put any input into the xconsole window.
>  When I'm root I get a blank window and when selected I try and type
> and just get beeps every time a key is pressed.  When I am logged in
> as my user account, I still get the beeps but the window says, "Couldn't
> Open Console".  Any ideas?
> 

xconsole is not an input program it is meant for output.  It reads logs or
other input files and displays them.


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Re: [update] Re: CUPS: now pdf files don't print

2002-04-18 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:58:44PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:48:32PM -0500, DvB wrote:
>  
> | Apparently, it's just one pdf file in particular that refuses to print
> | and all others work (or at least all others that I've tested).
> 
> I found one of those too.  (I think the one I found didn't even
> display right even in acroread)
> 
> | This is pretty weird, but at least not as serious as I thought at first.
> 
> Got a lose^H^H^H^Hwin machine available?  Try acroread on there.  It
> "solved" it for me =p.

I've gotten more than one PDF file generated/served via some kind of web
bot that had trailing or leading garbage (seems to be MS ware related).  
Trimming the junk in vim, made ghostscript a happy camper.  Perhaps this
is one of those embrace extend tacticts?  Maybe, just sloppy
programming...

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Re: conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Zain Halai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
> I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
> header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
> as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
> way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?
> Thank you in advance.

I don't recall exactly what conio.h has in it, but if it is 'console
io', which is what it sounds like, then curses or ncurses is probably
worth a look.

Tom
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Re: conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:26AM -0400, Zain Halai wrote:
> Hey,
> I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
> header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
> as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
> way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?
> Thank you in advance.

libncurses-dev.  I seem to recall hearing about a conio wrapper for ncurses,
but I don't remember much about it.  There will be some differences, but
curses is sorta/mostly a standard in the *nix world for console
interfaces.

BTW: please don't post new questions as follow-ups to other threads.

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login.defs

2002-04-18 Thread Priit Kivisoo
Hi,

Just wanted to know, why I can't use

LOGIN_STRING "%s's password: "

in login.defs.

The default password string (Password: ) won't change.
I've tried it on several Linuxes (RH, Slack, SuSE) and
it worker perfectly.

Thanks in advantage...

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magicfilter and HP Deskjet 720c

2002-04-18 Thread Erik van der Meulen
Hi List - I have been using magicfilter with my HP LaserJet 4L for quite
some time no. Works fine!
No I have acquired an HP DeskJet 720c and I would like to add that to my
config. Unfortunately, magicfilter does not seem to have an input filter
for this particular deskjet. It has:

 dj500c, 550c, 630c, 690c, 690c-best 690c-low

Now my questions are:

- Is there any resource for additional input filters (I did do a Google
  search and also Debian archives, did not find it)?

- If not, can I use one of the above filters as an alternative?

Much appreciated!

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Re: view output of process while

2002-04-18 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:22:18PM +, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> Is it possible to log back into a machine over ssh and 'attach' to a
> running process so that one can see the output of, say, a kernel
> compile?

Take a look at the ``screen'' package.

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Re: conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead
I've used the slang package that has all the raw functions that makes it
easy to write wrappers for text screen operations.  Ncurses used to have
lots of bugs but that was several years ago when I chose slang instead and
probably the ncurses bugs have been fixed.

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On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Tom Cook wrote:

> On  0, Zain Halai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
> > header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
> > as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
> > way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?
> > Thank you in advance.
>
> I don't recall exactly what conio.h has in it, but if it is 'console
> io', which is what it sounds like, then curses or ncurses is probably
> worth a look.
>
> Tom
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Re: xscreensaver

2002-04-18 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:48:38PM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote:
> Related question: On a dual display system not using xinerama (e.g.,
> different xserver on :0.0 and :0.1, can you get the screensaver to run
> on just one display?

You can cause xscreensaver to run on any number of displays, but it takes
over all screens it finds on that display.

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Re: Emacs' main menu font

2002-04-18 Thread Oki DZ
On 04/17 14:47 Glyn Millington wrote:
> Probably best in ~/.Xdefaults
> 
> eg
> 
>Emacs.default.attributeFont:-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1

That is 12-point font, right...?

BTW, I have some more questions...
- Would it be possible to set the editor's font (ie: the editing area)
without altering the mini-buffer's? I'd like to try some multi-byte fonts,
but I want to have the minibuffer uses the default font (as what it is
now).
- I'd like to have some of the keboard keys generate two or more
characters; say, if I pressed "a", then Emacs would get it as "a[". Or
better yet, to generate some (a pair of?) hex values of the multi-byte
characters. I've been reading the manual of Emacs in www.gnu.org, but to
no avail. I have tried to set the keyboard-translate, but it seems that
the translation is one-to-one.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Emacs advice,what to install?

2002-04-18 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Wendell Cochran wrote:

> [...] 
> Flaming vi vs emacs is for script kiddies.

There *are* arguments for Emacs:

- You don't have to think about which mode you are currently in, just hack
your stuff in there (something which is rather difficult with vi since you
need to be careful whether you are in command mode or in insert or
whatever mode).

- vi does not have its own programming language so it can't be customized
as much as emacs (ok, you can define new keyboards macros and syntax
highlighting in vi, but that's it). With Emacs, you can have specialized
development environments for Java (JDEE) and LaTeX (AucTeX, yaTeX), just
to mention a few.

The only *real* arguments against Emacs is that it uses a lot of memory
and that some of the keybindings may be a bit hard to get used to in the
beginning (under X, you can just conveniently use the menu to learn these 
keybindings).

So, there is no need to flame. I think it's justified to come up with good
arguments on a mailing list.

Greetings,

Holger



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Re: login.defs

2002-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 18-Apr-2002 Priit Kivisoo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to know, why I can't use
> 
> LOGIN_STRING "%s's password: "
> 
> in login.defs.
> 
> The default password string (Password: ) won't change.
> I've tried it on several Linuxes (RH, Slack, SuSE) and
> it worker perfectly.
> 
> Thanks in advantage...
> 

# 
# Password prompt (%s will be replaced by user name).
# 
# XXX - it doesn't work correctly yet, for now leave it commented out
# to use the default which is just "Password: ".
#LOGIN_STRING   "%s's Password: "

is what my login.defs file says.


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Re: Intermittent System Lockup (long)

2002-04-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:53:10 -0700
> "Karsten M. Self"  wrote:
> 
> > on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> > > >  - CPU -- a continuous kernel-build loop is a pretty good test. 
> > > >  You're  looking for SIG-11 errors.
> > > 
> > > I'll give that a try, how long would you suggest it run before
> > > considering this test to have been passed?
> > 
> > Run through it one or more times.  In some cases there are thermal
> > effects.  Depending on processor speed, you may want to set a continuous
> > loop and run the process for an hour or so.
> 
> Created two copies of the 2.4.16 kernel source and have currently been
> running two endless compiling loops in SSH sessions to the system.  The
> loops have been running for 4+ hours now, planning to let them run over
> night.

Sounds like a negative.

> > You might try mounting your drives 'sync' (synchronous mode), and
> > launching Mozilla under strace, logging stderr.  This may be able to
> > capture the final system calls of the program.
> 
> I'll give this a run tomorrow.  Hopefully I can readily get Mozilla to
> drop the system.

You've largely eliminated memory and CPU.

Another possible HW problem might be a disk corruption in your swap
partition.  I suggest this just because I now that Mozilla tends to
grow, and stress swap.  Though I would tend toward a driver issue.  Not
sure of a good swap tester, anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: Emacs' main menu font

2002-04-18 Thread Glyn Millington
Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 04/17 14:47 Glyn Millington wrote:
>> Probably best in ~/.Xdefaults
>> 
>> eg
>> 
>>Emacs.default.attributeFont:-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
>
> That is 12-point font, right...?

Right!!

Not sure about the other questions, alas.


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kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread James Michael DuPont
Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
I think that I must have done something wrong and
please excuse the stupid question.

In this mail :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
You write apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

Unfortunatly : 
# apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not
known.

#apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
remove and 0 not upgraded.

I dont have the debian cd, but have
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian   potato
main non-free contrib
and
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
potato/non-US main non-free contrib

in my  /etc/apt/sources.list


I am running potato 2.2r3.
My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.

I want to compile a module, 
and need the kernel headers

Here are the options that I have found on the net 
kernel-headers-2.2.19
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb


Please advise,
and please respond to my mail directly if possible.

thanks,

mike


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kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread James Michael DuPont
Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
I think that I must have done something wrong and
please excuse the stupid question.

In this mail :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
You write apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

Unfortunatly : 
# apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not
known.

#apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
remove and 0 not upgraded.

I dont have the debian cd, but have
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian   potato
main non-free contrib
and
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
potato/non-US main non-free contrib

in my  /etc/apt/sources.list


I am running potato 2.2r3.
My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.

I want to compile a module, 
and need the kernel headers

Here are the options that I have found on the net 
kernel-headers-2.2.19
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb


Please advise,
and please respond to my mail directly if possible.

thanks,

mike


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Re: view output of process while

2002-04-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Dave Carrigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rory Campbell-Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Is it possible to log back into a machine over ssh and 'attach' to a
> > running process so that one can see the output of, say, a kernel
> > compile?
> 
> If you find that you often need to reattach to processes between ssh
> sessions, look into running screen. It lets you detach and reattach to
> any number of long-lived processes.

Example:

   $ ssh remotehost
   Enter passphrase for RSA key '/home/karsten/.ssh/identity': 
   [remotehost]$ screen 
   # screen splash screen
   [remotehost]$ top
   
   [detached]
   [remotehost]$ exit
   Connection to remotehost closed.
   $ ssh remotehost
   Enter passphrase for RSA key '/home/karsten/.ssh/identity': 
   [remotehost]$ screen -r
   # Display now continues to show 'top' output.

...Useful key combos.  C-a == -a, so C-a c == -A (single
keystroke) plus 'c'.  'Window' refers to one of the multiplexed shells
under screen.

   C-a c:  'create' new window.  You can spawn a large number, I'm
up to 30 in a test session.
   C-a n:  'next' window.
   C-a n:  'prior' window.
   C-a a:  'alternate' window -- switch to most recent prior.
   C-a :  Switch to window number .
   C-a d:  'detach' -- disconnect from screen session.  Screen (and
   any processes in it) continue to run.
   C-a k:  'kill' current screen window.
   C-a-a:  Send a 'control-a' to the current screen.  Useful if you
   use emacs bash shell editing mode.
   C-a ?:  'help' -- with this and other functions.

From the shell:

   $ screen -ls# List screen sessions
   $ screen -r # Reattach to the detached screen process.
   $ screen -r  # Reattach to a specified screen process.
   $ screen -rd# Reattach, detaching existing session if any.
   $ screen -rx# Reattach, preserving existing session if any (shared).

I'm also attaching two scripts I use to run w3m in screen mode within an
rxvt, with a wrapper that I use to invoke w3m generally.

I put the wrapper in /usr/local/bin (which precedes /usr/bin on my
path).

This gives me w3m in an terminal window, invoked via screen, so I can
multiplex my browsing session.  Note trix with the SHELL variable.
'screen' sees its shell as w3m, so a new w3m session is spawned for each
new window.  w3m resets shell to /bin/bash to allow proper shell escapes
from the browser itself.  I use this for most of my quick-and-dirty
browsing needs.

   - w3m:  w3m wrapper.  Invokes w3m on bookmarks file if no args given.
   - w3m-term:  Invokes w3m within terminal using screen.

Peace.

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#!/bin/bash

# A w3m wrapper to allow no-argument startup.

export SHELL=/bin/bash

PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
realw3m=/usr/bin/w3m# Actually, a wrapper itself 

arg=""  # initialize

# Only subs if no args given and env doesn't say otherwise
if [ $# -eq 0 -a \( -z "$HTTP_HOME" -a -z "$WWW_HOME" \) ]; then

# DEBUG: echo "No args, hunting the wumpus"

for arg in \
$HOME/.w3m/bookmark.html \
$HOME/.netscape/bookmarks.html \
$HOME/.w3m/bookmark.html \
$HOME/.w3m/bookmark.html \
$HOME/.netscape/bookmarks.html \
$HOME/.galeon/bookmarks.xml 

do
if [ -f $arg ]; then
# DEBUG: echo "arg set to: $arg"
break 
fi
done;
else
: # DEBUG: echo "Args: $#"
fi
$realw3m $arg "$@"
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
exec rxvt -e w3m $@ & 


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Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead


http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
(or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.

knuth:~# apt-get install testing
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package testing

Does anyone have the real instructions?

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Re: X

2002-04-18 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:36:25PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:57:49PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:36:27PM -0400, Aravind Vinnakota wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >  Somehow I successfully installed Debian 2.2r6 on my Ultra 5 sparc. But I
>> >having trouble in using X. Whenever I use X, I get the following error
>> >
>> >Fatal server error:
>> >No valid modes found.
>> >
>> >The whole error can be seen at
>> >http://www.csee.wvu.edu/~aravind/error/X_error
>> >
>> Have you run the command Xfree86 -configure?  that should create a
>> working XF86Config for you.
>
>No, actually copy the XFree86 config sample file from
>/usr/doc/xserver-mach64/

Ben was more careful in reading your email as I assume you have a
version3 of X.  My experience is verylimited in this field so his
advice will be better.

BR,

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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Michael Kahle wrote:

> I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a lightweight
> window manager.  I managed to get everything working fine, but when I
> launch XConsole it won't let me put any input into the xconsole window.

This is normal.  It only reads anything you send at /dev/xconsole.  You
can have X start this automatically, with a little tweek (look around in
/etc/X11), and you can get your logs piped to it with a little tweek of
syslog.conf.  The reason why xconsole exists should be clear now.

It sounds like you're looking for a terminal program.  Try xterm, rvxt,
or some other similarly named app and see if that's what you expected.

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Re: Emacs advice,what to install?

2002-04-18 Thread David Smead
There's no such thing as everybody's editor.  Emacs is a lifestyle, so if
you're looking for simpler editors there are lots of choices.

The editor e3 may be have the lowest size per function at about 10K, so if
your want to keep size down and still have a quite functional editor you
should try that for basic script editing.

You can run e3 in the nedit mode.  Nedit under X is a good all around text
editor and does have built in language support.  I prefer to have my
`intergrated development environment' built on my own scripts and
makefiles, so nedit suits that style.

And then there are pico/nano.

In the beginning there is probably vi.  Use it just long enough to get e3
or nano onboard.  Use them if you don't have X, otherwise use nedit.  If
you want to start emacs as part of you log on screen and never want to
exit until you log out it's possible.  And if the boss is listening to all
the keyboarding you're doing using emacs so much the better.

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On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Holger Rauch wrote:

> Hi!
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Wendell Cochran wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > Flaming vi vs emacs is for script kiddies.
>
> There *are* arguments for Emacs:
>
> - You don't have to think about which mode you are currently in, just hack
> your stuff in there (something which is rather difficult with vi since you
> need to be careful whether you are in command mode or in insert or
> whatever mode).
>
> - vi does not have its own programming language so it can't be customized
> as much as emacs (ok, you can define new keyboards macros and syntax
> highlighting in vi, but that's it). With Emacs, you can have specialized
> development environments for Java (JDEE) and LaTeX (AucTeX, yaTeX), just
> to mention a few.
>
> The only *real* arguments against Emacs is that it uses a lot of memory
> and that some of the keybindings may be a bit hard to get used to in the
> beginning (under X, you can just conveniently use the menu to learn these
> keybindings).
>
> So, there is no need to flame. I think it's justified to come up with good
> arguments on a mailing list.
>
> Greetings,
>
>   Holger
>
>
>
>


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broken apt upgrade

2002-04-18 Thread Andrew Pritchard
Ran my morning apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade, and now netsaint is playing 
up. Can someone tell me where I've gone wrong, and how I should fix it!

djelibyebi:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libpgsql2.1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libpgsql2
1 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/99.8kB of archives. After unpacking 53.2kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 24795 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace netsaint-plugins-pgsql 1.2.9.4-18 (using .../netsaint-
plugins-pgsql_1.2.9.4-18.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement netsaint-plugins-pgsql ...
Reloading netsaint configuration files.
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
Reloading netsaint configuration files.
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/netsaint-plugins-pgsql_1.2.9.4-
18.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Reloading netsaint configuration files.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/netsaint-plugins-pgsql_1.2.9.4-18.1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
djelibyebi:~#

Thanks,

Andrew

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Re: check for root kit

2002-04-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 02:31:46AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html

How do you come up with these URL?  Do you have some trick to do it
quickly?  I know messages are stored at l.d.o site but ...

Wondering...

Osamu
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Re: IPCop on Debian

2002-04-18 Thread Pat Colbeck
IPcop so far as I know is its own custom distribution. I.E you dont
install it ontop of Debian or RedHat or whatever it installs on a
blank hard drive itself. In essence its a custome kernel with ipchains
and everything removed not necessary to run firewalling and snort with
a HTML front end chucked on there to manage it. Nice product, no
reason why you couldn't do the same thing with Debian but he whole
point of IPcop is that its quick and easy to setup even if you know
nothing at all about Linux.

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whereis iptables LOG

2002-04-18 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello,

I use this rule to redirect the outgoing smtp connection under NAT.
Where are the log messages? I just can't find any log begging with
"SMTP_LOG" under /var/log/. Idea?

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p TCP -s 192.168.10.0/24 ! -d
111.222.333.444 --dport 25 -j LOG --log-prefix SMTP_LOG:

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problem with syslog log rotation

2002-04-18 Thread José
Hi all,

recently i added this to my potato 2.2r3 logrotate.conf

/var/log/syslog {
monthly
rotate 1
}

after this, i noticed that nothing have changed ! the rotation is still done 
weekly with rotation 5 !
any idea ?
thx




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Doc problem related to mkrboot package

2002-04-18 Thread Jean-Francois Leveque
 
I recently got the 2.2r6 i386 CDs for an offsite install.
 
I read the doc and found that the file boot.bat
mentionned in the CD doc equivalent of
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot#s-install-cd
cannot be found on the CD (as far as I can tell).
 
This file is also mentionned in
http://www.debian.org/CD/releases/


The install.bat file which provides (as far as I can
tell from the mailing lists archives) the same use
as the boot.bat is both on the CD and in the doc.
 
The install.bat file is in the mbrboot package,
so maybe more can be found in this package history.
 
I think we have a good candidate for a doc update.
Couldn't find the package this doc is included
in so I post on the list instead of submitting
a bug.


Best regards,
Jean-Francois Leveque



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Unable to mount cd-rom

2002-04-18 Thread Sam Varghese
I recently moved my Debian install over to a new hard disk and after
this I find that I cannot mount my cd-rom.
 
My /etc/fstab reads as under:
 
/dev/hda2 /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
1
/dev/hda5   noneswapsw  00
proc/proc   procdefaults 0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/cdrom/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0
0
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2 rw 0   2
/dev/sr0/cdburner   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
 
Other relevant info:
 
sammo:~# ls -la /dev/cdrom  
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Apr  9 18:58 /dev/cdrom ->
hdc
 
sammo:~# ls -la /dev/hdc
brw-rw-rw-1 root cdrom 22,   0 Jul  6  2000 /dev/hdc
 
I can play an audio cd using the cd-rom in question.

When I try to mount a cd, the whole machine freezes up. I have to
reset and then fsck the root partition before I can use it.
 
Just to test out the cd-rom itself, I installed Mandrake on another
partition and checked that there is nothing wrong with it.
 
I tried deleting and recreating the device file but that did not make
any difference.

Any hints to get out of this would be appreciated.

Sam
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Re: Allow root to telnet

2002-04-18 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Michael Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am having trouble with a few services and want to allow root to telnet
> to a Debian 2.2r5 system for testing purposes, but can not find the way
> to allow this to happen.

That is because it is one of the worse ideas around.  If you allow
root to telnet to your box then you are transmitting your root
password across a network in plain text.  If I was *certain* that the
box is not connected to a network outside the building (eg the
internet), I still wouldn't do it.  Use ssh instead, and even then it
is better to ssh in as another user and then su to root.

[snip]
> Also, how would I allow telnet to accessed on more than one port at a
> time. I may need to allow it on port 23 and (omniback backup
> software port), but can only seem to allow one or the other, not both.
> How can I allow both 23 and  to accept telnet?

Assuming that your telnetd is run from inetd, add a line like this in
/etc/inetd.conf:

stream  tcp nowait  telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd 
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd

HTH

Tom
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Re: Swapfiles

2002-04-18 Thread Joe Bouchard
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:34:54PM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> "Oki" == Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Oki> Hi, On a 128Mbytes machine, how much swap space can it
> Oki> handle? Would it be all right to assign it 384Mbytes?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I typically assign twice as much swap as RAM, I no longer remember the
> rationale behind it, but there's nothing wrong with 384Mb either ;-)

I think the original rationale has to do with core dumps.  I read
somewhere that to get a successful core dump swap must be >= 2 * ram.
That said, when was the last time you read into a core dump?  When was
that last time you dumped core???

It's just one of those laws of the universe that you don't want to
violate lest you will fly off the surface of the earth at a constant
velocity tangent to a point on the curve.  

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Unidentified subject!

2002-04-18 Thread dscpubl
Hello there 

  - Pleae also cc: me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], because my normal
listserver address goes to what *was* my potato box.  Now it is 
woody-not-yet-workin box, so please cc: me here.

  I just got woody Compact and went to install it -- when what to my
wondering eyes should appear but ne2k, but -pci nowhere near.

  I tried the RTL- NIC configuration, and that didn't go either.

  As popular as the el-cheapo spec of ne2k-pci is, why isn't it
included?  Can I use something from my Potato CD set?

-Mike


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debian-user@lists.debian.org

2002-04-18 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 22:02 pm, Christian Jaeger wrote:
> At 21:39 Uhr -0500 17.04.2002, Bud Rogers wrote:
> >I ran gnus in Xemacs for a long time and loved it.  As I remember, gnus
> >can be built for either Xemacs or Emacs but cannot be compatible with 
both
> >at the same time.  You might want to rebuild/reinstall your gnus with 
the
> >version of emacsen you intend to use it with.
> 
> Doesn't the debian package take care of this? When installing emacs 
> packages like gnus, it takes a long time for byte-compiling for all 
> emacsen on the system.

Yes, I believe the gnus deb takes care of that.  I got the impression from 
your first post that you had installed it yourself.  My mistake.

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debian-user@lists.debian.org

2002-04-18 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> With a change back to nnml, the 'Wrong type argument' piece went away
> and really, I have now a listing of the mails I've always downloaded
> from emacs. But...: 'Window height 0 too small (after splitting)', I
> can't open the individual mails. Argh.

I always got this error message when trying to switch over to one of
the Gnome variants of XEmacs; when I went back to xemacs21-[no]mule
(without Gnome), gnus worked flawlessly.

I have given up the Gnome variants completely now.

Greetings,
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Re: Intermittent System Lockup (long)

2002-04-18 Thread ben
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 11:58 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:53:10 -0700
> >
> > "Karsten M. Self"  wrote:
> > > on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >  - CPU -- a continuous kernel-build loop is a pretty good test.
> > > > >  You're  looking for SIG-11 errors.
> > > >
> > > > I'll give that a try, how long would you suggest it run before
> > > > considering this test to have been passed?
> > >
> > > Run through it one or more times.  In some cases there are thermal
> > > effects.  Depending on processor speed, you may want to set a
> > > continuous loop and run the process for an hour or so.
> >
> > Created two copies of the 2.4.16 kernel source and have currently been
> > running two endless compiling loops in SSH sessions to the system.  The
> > loops have been running for 4+ hours now, planning to let them run over
> > night.
>
> Sounds like a negative.
>
> > > You might try mounting your drives 'sync' (synchronous mode), and
> > > launching Mozilla under strace, logging stderr.  This may be able to
> > > capture the final system calls of the program.
> >
> > I'll give this a run tomorrow.  Hopefully I can readily get Mozilla to
> > drop the system.
>
> You've largely eliminated memory and CPU.
>
> Another possible HW problem might be a disk corruption in your swap
> partition.  I suggest this just because I now that Mozilla tends to
> grow, and stress swap.  Though I would tend toward a driver issue.  Not
> sure of a good swap tester, anyone have any suggestions?
>

as far as i can trace back, i can't see any precise description of the 
archtiecture on which this is happening to you. i've  got an amd k6 chip 
where the same symptoms happened with damn near every kernel iteration 
between 2.2.19 up until the current 2.4.17. i traced my problem back to one 
point in the kernel source, namely at slab.c:1248, caused by, as far as my 
investigation could determine, an attempted allocation of a non-allocatable 
memory address. i tried to contact the author of that piece of the kernel 
code but ended up with an undeliverable message about a week later. 
contacting amd got a response that they did not have the resources to 
investigate linux-related bugs. in any case, since running 2.4.17 for about 
six months, now, the problem has never re-occured. in fact, i've been so 
relieved to have a crash free configuration that i've postponed the effort to 
test any kernel beyond the one that works. 

the symptoms were exactly the same: random system freezes, often within 
booting, regularly on running x, but always infrequent with no discernable 
pattern involved, and with nothing registered in dmesg or any of the 
appropriate x logs. i eventually found the clue in kern.log. the absence of 
the same begins with the very date that i compiled the 2.4.17 kernel from 
source from kernel.org, which was also actually the first kernel i compiled 
in the non-debian way. maybe that matters.

in the event that this same issue is the cause of your grief, sorry i didn't 
file a bug report, back then. i guess i could be more sociable but i kind of 
lose myself in the task of curing the problem, and tend to forget that part 
of the allegiance to linux.

ben


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Kühlschrank uaf

2002-04-18 Thread ntf_Ariane


  

  
  
  

  
  
  

  
Der Mini Kühlschrank aus der
  Fernsehwerbung.
  


  

  


  

  
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  auf jeder Party und jedem Campingaufenthalt.
  
  
Er stellt gerade das In-Geschenk für jeden
  Geburtstag dar, ist trendy, angesagt und voll hip.
  
  
Die Stromversorgung paßt an jeden Zigarettenanzünder
  im Auto oder Steckdose.
  
  
Überraschen sie Ihre Freunde doch mal anders,
  als nur mit lauter Musik im Auto, wie wärs mitnem kalten Getränk
  

  


  
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Re: magicfilter and HP Deskjet 720c

2002-04-18 Thread Travis Crump
It uses pnm2ppa as the input filter which is available as a seperate 
package.


Erik van der Meulen wrote:

Hi List - I have been using magicfilter with my HP LaserJet 4L for quite
some time no. Works fine!
No I have acquired an HP DeskJet 720c and I would like to add that to my
config. Unfortunately, magicfilter does not seem to have an input filter
for this particular deskjet. It has:

 dj500c, 550c, 630c, 690c, 690c-best 690c-low

Now my questions are:

- Is there any resource for additional input filters (I did do a Google
  search and also Debian archives, did not find it)?

- If not, can I use one of the above filters as an alternative?

Much appreciated!

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RE: Swapfiles

2002-04-18 Thread Smith, Brian N.



>John Hasler wrote
>I wrote:
>> Executables, being read-only, are mapped directly from disk and never
>> use any swap at all.  Only data gets mapped to swap.

>Karsten writes:
>> Is this a GNU/Linux thing or a more general Unix/POSIX thing?

>Neither.  It's a virtual-memory thing.  It's the obvious thing to do as
>soon as you have vm.

>> Recent development or long-time feature.

>VMS had it from day one, I believe, and Berkeley introduced it into Unix
>when they ported it to the VAX.

I am a little puzzled by the comment "executables do not use swap" and I
have to admit computer design is not my forte. However let me dive in :-)
  I was under the impression the swap process did not care what the memory
was doing, in fact the user process or data did not know it was in ram or on
disk, but ran in the virtual memory.  If there was a request from part of
the program running in this virtual memory (hence obviously in ram space
talking to the processor) and the instruction pointed to an area in virtual
memory that was not in ram space the MMU would generate an exception to
kernal space and the swap would occur.  The trick is to guess what parts of
the virtual memory should be kept in ram space. (Hence all the design in the
kernal world)   As well there are some means to request that parts of your
program remain in RAM space (this used to be a function of the sticky bit I
think)  but I am not a programmer so I really cannot comment too much on
this.


Brian

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Re: IDE-SCSI, CD-RW, ZIP drive weirdness

2002-04-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:14:54PM -0600, Troy Telford wrote:
> I have an ATAPI CD-RW installed as the second slave (/dev/hdd).
> 
> According to the documentation I've read, to use the CD-RW in Linux, I 
> have to use IDE-SCSI (kernel) and have 'hdd=scsi' in the boot parameters.
> 
> I've done this, and I have no problems using the drive, but I have 
> discovered somthing... odd.
> 
> I have an ATAPI ZIP-100 on /dev/hdb (first slave).  I am not telling the 
> kernel to use IDE-SCSI for it (boot parameters), yet IDE-SCSI takes 
> control of the ZIP-100.
> 
> And, the ZIP-100 works great under the IDE-SCSI driver.  (Since I run 
> DevFS, it's interesting to note that this gets rid of any problems I've 
> had and read about when using the ZIP-100 and DevFs).
> 
> My only beef is that I don't believe I configured Linux to do this 
> (although it was a pleasent surprise), and am wondering if this is a bug 
> of some kind to be reported.  (Or, if this is a little unknown 
> workaround for ZIP drives & DevFS).

I have this exact same 'issue' with almost the same hardware.  As far
as I can tell, when the ide-scsi module is loaded, it takes control of
all non-harddisk IDE devices on the system.  I think there's a work
around, but I can't for the life of me remember it.  If it doesn't
bother you, I'd just leave it.

Oh yeah, there were a couple of other things, (all good:):
* You can use tools like jazip (for your zip drive) that only
  understand SCSI.
* Apparently some cd-rom drives can perform DAE (digital audio
  extraction, ie rip) cds quicker with ide-scsi enabled!

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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread Sami Dalouche
change your /etc/apt/sources.list to something like
deb ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/ testing main
deb ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/debian/ testing contrib
deb ftp://ftp.ee.debian.org/debian/ testing non-free

deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing non-US/main
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free

deb-src ftp://ftp.ee.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing non-US/main
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free

then,
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and you're done ;)

sam
- Original Message -
From: "David Smead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Upgrade to woody


>
>
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
> testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
> (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.
>
> knuth:~# apt-get install testing
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package testing
>
> Does anyone have the real instructions?
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> David Smead
> http://www.amplepower.com.
>
>
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netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread John Habermann
Hi

Do support for a community group that recycles computers installs debian and 
gives them to low income people. One of the recipients is issues with 
Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape is entered 
into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error".
Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our 
early recipients and has just bought a new computer 1.4 ghz athlon 256 ddr 
memory and has got debian unstable with kde as the desktop environment, bit 
different to potato with gnome as our desktop which is what he started with.

Thanks for any help

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Re: net connect problem, sleep?

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Wördehoff
Hello again, Ron Johnson, Jr. !

Last night i didn't  remember from where APM ist used, but hoped you could 
find something about in the Kernel-Doku ( or simply reading the 
config-informations with 'menuconfig' ).  
Additionally here is one more piece about that ( but there may be more 
instances to check ). It's my /etc/XF86Config-4 :

>>>

# Global Options:
Section "ServerFlags"   
Option  "AllowMouseOpenFail"
Option  "BlankTime" "5"
Option  "StandbyTime"   "10"
EndSection

#...APM-Options need to be enabled in Section Monitor:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
VendorName  "Iiyama"
ModelName   "S900MT1"
HorizSync   30-95
VertRefresh 50-160
# Power Management:
Option  "DPMS"

>>>

Though I don't see how Monitor-Options can affect your network-connection.
Usually, you could specify 'reanimating' actions for the down-powered system 
in the BIOS, like Mouse, Keyboard, HD-Activity - perhaps there's an advanced 
option for your network-port ?

It needs some Sekonds for the HD to get ready again - this may demand 
increasing 'out-time'.

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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Kahle
Baloo, Shaelh, and David,

Thank you all for your answers.  I asked this question to the list late
last night after I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get a terminal.
 Shortly after I posted I installed xterm and I was all set.  As you
all pointed out, this is not the program I was looking for.  If I would
have checked the man pages I could have avoided this noise to the list!
 Thanks again.  I am self imposing a 30 minute delay to the send button
on all my posts!  As I seem to figure things out after I send the question.
 :)

Michael

 "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 18-Apr-2002 Michael Kahle wrote:
> > I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months.  This is installed
> > on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.
> > 
> > I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a
> lightweight
> > window manager.  I managed to get everything working fine, but when
> I
> > launch XConsole it won't let me put any input into the xconsole window.
> >  When I'm root I get a blank window and when selected I try and type
> > and just get beeps every time a key is pressed.  When I am logged
> in
> > as my user account, I still get the beeps but the window says, "Couldn't
> > Open Console".  Any ideas?
> > 
> 
> xconsole is not an input program it is meant for output.  It reads
> logs or
> other input files and displays them.
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Re: cut-n-pasting links

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:54:48PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> 
> > How can I cut-n-paste something that shows as a link in Mozilla
> > and/or the gnome terminal? Every key combination I've tried seems to
> > activate the link instead of putting the text in the buffer.
> 
> Highlight the text.

*That's* the problem! Point the cursor at the first character within a
link that has some characters you want to cut-n-paste, press the left
mouse button and *try* to highlight the characters you want. YOU CAN'T
DO IT! Clicking *anywhere* within the link selects the entire link.

> This copies.

Not for a *link*.

> Middle click where you want it.  This pastes.

Only if you've managed to get what you want into the buffer.

> Two button mice it'll vary if you both-click or right-click to paste.
> Occasionally, you'll have to hold shift to copy from a terminal, it
> depends on if the program also caputures mouse input, IIRC.

The question was very specific. I didn't ask how cut-n-paste works
*generally*. I *know* how to do that. Been doing it for years.

Sorry for venting but why don't people *read* what's actually written?
It just might prevent useless non-answers.

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Re: Intermittent System Lockup (long)

2002-04-18 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:58:41 -0700
"Karsten M. Self"  wrote:

> on Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> > Created two copies of the 2.4.16 kernel source and have currently been
> > running two endless compiling loops in SSH sessions to the system. 
> > The loops have been running for 4+ hours now, planning to let them run
> > over night.
> 
> Sounds like a negative.

Yea, ran through all night long (~10 hours) until I stopped it and
remounted all the partitions sync'd for the strace on Mozilla.

> > > You might try mounting your drives 'sync' (synchronous mode), and
> > > launching Mozilla under strace, logging stderr.  This may be able to
> > > capture the final system calls of the program.
> > 
> > I'll give this a run tomorrow.  Hopefully I can readily get Mozilla to
> > drop the system.
> 
> You've largely eliminated memory and CPU.

Well, running the system with sync'd mounts and strace for Mozilla was
extremely slow, but I did manage to get the system to drop while using
Mozilla (during an attempted opening of freshmeat.net).  I ran strace with
'-ff -F -o moz.log' options and now have several trace output files.  It
appears to have managed to follow a good number of threads from Mozilla.

> Another possible HW problem might be a disk corruption in your swap
> partition.  I suggest this just because I now that Mozilla tends to
> grow, and stress swap.  Though I would tend toward a driver issue.  Not
> sure of a good swap tester, anyone have any suggestions?

This could be more or less ruled out by turning swap off during one of the
tests, right?  I know it wouldn't prove that the swap was good, but if the
system drops without the swap enabled, then we know something else is to
blame (swap could still be bad).  However, if the system won't drop with
the swap disabled, then I would tend to think the swap was the culprit,
right?

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Re: [update] Re: CUPS: now pdf files don't print

2002-04-18 Thread DvB
dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:48:32PM -0500, DvB wrote:
>  
> | Apparently, it's just one pdf file in particular that refuses to print
> | and all others work (or at least all others that I've tested).
> 
> I found one of those too.  (I think the one I found didn't even
> display right even in acroread)
> 
> | This is pretty weird, but at least not as serious as I thought at first.
> 
> Got a lose^H^H^H^Hwin machine available?  Try acroread on there.  It
> "solved" it for me =p.


Someone else suggested I run pdf2ps on it, the result of which printed
with no trouple via lp with no need to reboot. Although rebooting
might've been a good idea to keep me from forgetting my NT password and
having to re-install like I did a couple weeks ago ;-)


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Re: cut-n-pasting links

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:53:05AM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:42:42AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> | How can I cut-n-paste something that shows as a link in Mozilla and/or 
> | the gnome terminal? Every key combination I've tried seems to activate
> | the link instead of putting the text in the buffer.
> 
> In galeon (and I presume mozilla) if you right-click on the link there
> is a menu item "Copy Link Location".

Not what I want.

Suppose "Copy Link Location" was a link that pointed to
http://www.foo.com/copylink.htm. I want to cut-n-paste the
words "Link Location". What you suggest puts the
"http://www.foo.com/copylink.htm"; in the buffer.

> The way I usually do it in gnome-terminal is to select too much.  This
> way I click outside the link and select a bit of leading/trailing text
> along with the link. 

That works but is a cludgy work-around that requires additional editing
thus nullifying the benefits of cut-n-paste.

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Re: conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread dman
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:26AM -0400, Zain Halai wrote:
| Hey,
| I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
| header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
| as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
| way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?

IIRC conio is not part of ANSI C but is a vendor-specific extension.
Others have already pointed you to ncurses for console applications.

-D

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Re: [update] Re: CUPS: now pdf files don't print

2002-04-18 Thread DvB
"Eric G. Miller"  writes:



> I've gotten more than one PDF file generated/served via some kind of web
> bot that had trailing or leading garbage (seems to be MS ware related).  
> Trimming the junk in vim, made ghostscript a happy camper.  Perhaps this
> is one of those embrace extend tacticts?  Maybe, just sloppy
> programming...

I got it from Penn State's web site... I s'pose it's conceivable that
some of their less academically oriented departments are generating
faulty pdf files.


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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread dman
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:32:35AM -0700, David Smead wrote:
 
| http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
| testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
| (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.
| 
| knuth:~# apt-get install testing
| Reading Package Lists... Done
| Building Dependency Tree... Done
| E: Couldn't find package testing
| 
| Does anyone have the real instructions?

First, that's a really old announcement.  It has nothing to do with
the woody freeze, but rather the creation of "testing" in the first
place.  (there used to be only "stable" and "unstable")

Second, "point apt" doesn't mean "install package".  Pointing apt
somewhere means editing /etc/apt/sources.list to contain the proper
entries.  (and those instructions weren't targeted for those new to
debian)

If you want to track testing (which is also called "woody" right now),
these lines in sources.list will work :

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib 
non-free

HTH,
-D

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Icewm still being maintained

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
Looking at http://www.icewm.org today, I see that - contrary to posts on
this list and elsewhere - icewm is still being actively maintained and
a beta release of 1.2.0 is due out this month.  Good news!

Anthony


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Re: debian for embedded...original playstation

2002-04-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, java guru wrote:
> 
> want Linux on that hardware, you're likely going to have to do all the
> gruntwork yourself.  Good luck!
> 
> -- 
> Baloo
> 

Sony's official port is available in Japan already.  US kit starts
shipping May 22.

It's not Debian, but it is Linux, and with that hardware, it oughta be
possible to port Debian.


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Re: kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread Bob Thibodeau
-i is the dkpg switch for install
you want apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

It's in the help text

Bob

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:09:26AM -0700, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
> I think that I must have done something wrong and
> please excuse the stupid question.
> 
> In this mail :
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
> You write apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> 
> Unfortunatly : 
> # apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not
> known.
> 
> #apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
> remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 
> I dont have the debian cd, but have
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian   potato
> main non-free contrib
> and
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> potato/non-US main non-free contrib
> 
> in my  /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> 
> I am running potato 2.2r3.
> My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.
> 
> I want to compile a module, 
> and need the kernel headers
> 
> Here are the options that I have found on the net 
> kernel-headers-2.2.19
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> 
> 
> Please advise,
> and please respond to my mail directly if possible.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> =
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netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread John Habermann

Hi

Do some support for a community group that recycles computers, installs 
debian and then gives them to low income people. One of the recipients has 
issues with Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape 
is entered into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error".
Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our 
early recipients and has just bought a new computer with money he received 
from an accident claim. It is a 1.4 ghz athlon 256 ddr memory and has got 
debian unstable with kde as the desktop environment, bit different to potato 
with gnome as the desktop, which is what he started with. I am really 
impressed that he has stuck with linux, shows you what happens when people 
start learning computers on linux.

Thanks for any help

John Habermann


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Woody not ready, methinks

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Rudmin
I was hoping to get Baltic fonts, and I had just
installed, and I read that Debian is advising new
installers to install Woody instead of Potato.  So I
figured why not reinstall.

First, let me preface by naming my system.  800 Mhz
PII, *slow* permanent web link, everything else
normal.
Also, my weblink often drops connections, resulting in
crashed downloads. I can tell by the size whether it
is successful or not.

I decided to download the disk images.  

Attempt 1- Downloaded 20 images.  Took a few retries,
but that's what a slow permanent link is good for.
Installed them on my hard disk on a vfat partition. 
Went to install.  Whoops!  There is no provision for
using disk images from the hard disk.  Have either
tarball it or RAWRITE it.  [*That*, IMHO, should
change.)

Attempt 2-RAWrote the disks.  Went to install.  Got to
Disk 11 -- it was no good.  Had to bomb out and try
again.  

Attempt 3-ReRawrote Disk 11.  Went back to install
again.  Got through the entire loading procedure. 
Computer created Tar ball out of disks, went to
validate it, and discovered -- invalid Tarball.

Attempt 4-trying the impossible: downloading a Tarball
over Windoze and my slow line.  

It looks to me like Woody is not quite ready for
install.  

P.S.  If you reply to this cc: me over at Mike_Rudmin
"at" yahoo.com, or I won't see it.  Not that I have
to.  [@ sign was spelled out to jinx spammers].







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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:01:52AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Michael Kahle wrote:
>
>This is normal.  It only reads anything you send at /dev/xconsole.  You
>can have X start this automatically, with a little tweek (look around in
>/etc/X11), and you can get your logs piped to it with a little tweek of
>syslog.conf.  The reason why xconsole exists should be clear now.

I really wish I could stop that xconsole loading but I can't dind it
anywhere no matter how mcu grepping /etc/X11 I do.  How does one stop
it appearing?

Patrick


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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread Jerome Lacoste \(Work\)
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 09:32, David Smead wrote:
> 
> 
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
> testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
> (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.
> 
> knuth:~# apt-get install testing
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package testing
> 
> Does anyone have the real instructions?

I don't even know why I answer this question. It is obvious that you
didn't make an effort to search the answer.

The instructions are in the documentation. E.g.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-woody.en.html#s5.2
Even with a simple Google search you should find it. E.g. 
http://www.debianhelp.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1538




> 
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> 
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Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!

2002-04-18 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Patrick Kirk wrote:

> I really wish I could stop that xconsole loading but I can't dind it
> anywhere no matter how mcu grepping /etc/X11 I do.  How does one stop
> it appearing?

It seems to be started by /etc/X11/Xsetup in sid.  I swear there was a
way to shut it off in a config, but it looks like you're going to edit a
script.

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Re: mutt and my email address

2002-04-18 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Mike Thompson wrote:
> 
> at the end of /etc/exim/exim.conf write
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Ffr
> 
> or similar.
> 
Also, look at the really nice rewriting rule that is commented out at
the end of the default exim.conf provided in the Debian package.  It
uses /etc/email-addresses so that you can set up other-domained aliases
for any local users.  Then exim will automatically change the headers
accordingly as your mail goes out.

Advantage of this is that, like Mike's suggestion, it still works if you
change mail clients (MUAs), say, from mutt to sylpheed.

Of course, doesn't work if you don't use exim...


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Suggestions for multi-platform game development library?

2002-04-18 Thread marshal
Hi all!

I'm looking for something, I guess a library would be probably what
I'm looking for, that will allow me to write a game (RPG), but that is
supported on many platforms.  I'm looking specifically for *nix,
Windows, and, also preferably, MacOS (9 or X.  X should be fairly
easy.)  I want a write once, compile 3 times sort of deal.  Don't have
to fiddle with the source (too much) to make it compile on other
platforms.

Any suggestions?  I'd prefer opinions with experiences.  I know of
allegro, SDL, and libgengameng (but I don't do C++, ... yet.) just from
a quick scan through dselect.

I guess what I'm looking for is something to manage to graphics (no 3D
required, yet...), sound, and perhaps sound input/processing, but
don't worry too much about the last one yet.  Oh, and multilanguage
support (input/output) is a must. 

I'm also up for suggested programming languages.

If this sounds very vague, it's because I haven't quite got all the
specifics down in my head yet.  It's still a sketch, but I'd like to
get something going.

Thanks for any help!

Marshal


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Re: conio.h

2002-04-18 Thread Wayne Topa
Zain Halai([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hey,
> I'd like to use functions like clrscr() or cprintf on debian 2.1, but the
> header file conio.h does not exist under unix/linux systems (am I wrong?)
> as is in Borland C++ Compiler. Is there an equivalent library or any other
> way I could use the functions that are in conio.h?
> Thank you in advance.

Conio.h is a Borland thingy.  I have found 2 files to use for converting Dos
pgms to Linux.  UConio-1.0.8-PR.tar.gz  and
linux-conio.tgz   not sure of this
URL tho.  I picked these up in 2000 so hope you can google them.

Here is the intro to Uconio

INTRODUCTION:

Do you remember the CONIO.H header from Borland? yeah, in
UNIX we have CURSES.H what is better? obviously CURSES!.
No matters, i start wrote this library in a boreing moment.
I Wanna to port and add some functions to the original CONIO.H library,
all this porting was an idea of GiBa, but i wanna to do the library.
Anyways, i hope you like it, the lib isnt completed yet.


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Re: Intermittent System Lockup (long)

2002-04-18 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Jaye Inabnit ke6sls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Wednesday 17 April 2002 11:29 am, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> >yup, snipped it all<
> 
> Greetings Jamin:
> 
> I built a box for a young friend as a gift.  It is back on my bench now.  
> Seems it has a memory *socket* issue.  Installing DIMMS would cause the 
> mainboard to bend slightly toward the chassis, thus causing the socket to 
> warp.  Sound engineering could have prevented it,  but I can fabricate better 
> mounts myself.  I am going to look it over carefully with a magnifying glass 
> to ensure the traces are solid, then attempt to reshape it.

Hint: buy a can of frozen CO2 from electronics store and spray
the tracks before examining them. Cold will make the tracks 
shrink, and breaks (if any) will be easier to notice.

Dima
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RE: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread Donald R. Spoon

David Smead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
(or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.

knuth:~# apt-get install testing
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package testing

Does anyone have the real instructions?

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David Smead



Note the date on that message at the bottom.  It is NOT recent!

The phrase "Point apt at the new "testing" distribution..." means 
changing your /etc/apt/sources.list file to get it's stuff from the 
Debian "testing" (or currently "Woody"...same thing right now) tree 
rather than the "stable" (or Potato) tree.  The easisest way to do this 
is to edit your sources.list file and change all refereneces to "stable" 
(or Potato) to "testing".


This is the EASIEST, but not necessarily the BEST method.  Apt-Get is a 
very powerful tool, and seems to be getting better as time goes along. 
There are major improvements and additions between "stable" and 
"testing".  With the versions out of "testing" I have been running for 
the last 6-9 months you can set it up to pull packages from different 
Debian file trees at the same time by using the "preferences" option(s). 
 That means that you can mix packages from "unstable" and "testing" or 
any other combination you want.  This is NOT in the version in "stable" 
to the best of my knowledge.


After you have your system looking at the right ftp or http "sources" 
tree, then the command you want depends upon what you want to do.  I 
gather from the above that you want to install the "testing" version on 
a machine probably running "stable".  In this case, the command(s) in 
theory would be:


apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

But since 'testing" is not quite finalized, this may (read "will") 
produce some rough spots for you.  The changes between the two are quite 
significant!  If you are not familiar with the potential problems and 
how to recover from them then you could wind up with a system that is 
un-usable.  It is advisable to peruse these mailing lists and see what 
others have exerienced in this regard.  There is no one single "recipe" 
for doing a "dist-upgrade" from "stable" to "testing" at this point in 
time.  It is even more difficult if you are using an older version of 
Debian, like "slink". It has been my experience that the fastest, 
cleanest, and most trouble-free method of getting testing on your 
computer is to start from scratch and use any of the installation 
methods mentioned in the docs at: 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/doc/. 
 I particularly like the "boot-floppy" method and installing from the 
internet over my Cable Modem connection.  Backup old data/files you want 
to keep of course...  The time spent doing a "clean" install from the 
internet is about the same as doing a "dist-upgrade", and MUCH smoother! 
 You save LOTS of time in de-bugging and correcting install errors.


I suggest you become familiar with with the man pages on these subjects 
before you try to mess around with them.  There are also LOTS of threads 
on these mailing lists on using the "preferences" options as well as 
problems encountered using the "dist-upgrade" option.  Suggested reading:


MAN: apt, apt-get, sources.list + any references listed at the bottom of 
each.


MAILING LISTS:  Debian-User, Debian-Testing

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-




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Re: whereis iptables LOG

2002-04-18 Thread dman
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 04:43:09PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
| Hello,
| 
| I use this rule to redirect the outgoing smtp connection under NAT.
| Where are the log messages? I just can't find any log begging with
| "SMTP_LOG" under /var/log/. Idea?

syslog and/or messages

if you go to a console, you'll see them there too

also, if you run 'xconsole' you'll see the messages there

-D

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Re: whereis iptables LOG

2002-04-18 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:43:09 +0800
"Patrick Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use this rule to redirect the outgoing smtp connection under NAT.
> Where are the log messages? I just can't find any log begging with
> "SMTP_LOG" under /var/log/. Idea?

The log entries will go where ever your syslog.conf (assuming you're using
syslog) tell them to go.  This is most likely going to be
"/var/log/messages" by default.

> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p TCP -s 192.168.10.0/24 ! -d
> 111.222.333.444 --dport 25 -j LOG --log-prefix SMTP_LOG:

The "--log-prefix" sets a small text string that is prepended to the
entries made in the log file.

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how can I setup a network monitoring station

2002-04-18 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
I wish to setup a network monitoring machine to track network traffic
in an office of about 100 users. The main focus of attention is the
traffic passing between our router and the network, as we recently and
inexplicably had most of the bandwidth of our half meg leased line
saturated by network traffic for over a day.

The router is a proprietary network appliance providing NAT/VPN and a
firewall.

I have tested tcpdump at another smaller office where I was able to
trace all the network traffic between the gateway and workstations all
linked on the same small switch. However in the larger office the Bay
450-24T (now Nortel) managed switches we use appear to confound tcpdump
so that only traffic between the localhost and the targeted system
appear, even if I place a mini-hub between the tracing machine and the
switch (which also provides the network connection to the router). 

I get a message from tcpdump saying that eth0 has entered promiscuous
mode so I guess that the capabilities of the ethernet card aren't the
problem.

Is the solution to use the Bay switch port mirroring feature? If this is
the thing to do, would I need another ethernet interface to connect to
the network normally? I would like to run arpwatch on the same machine
(so only one machine in the office is in promiscuous mode) - is that
feasible?

I hope to hold 3 day's tcpdump information on disk, and analyse this
with Ethereal or some similar tool if necessary. I'm hoping not to lose
too much of the information, so I wasn't thinking of filtering much. I'd
be grateful for some expert advice on the suitability of this approach.
The disk of the network monitoring machine has about 15G free.

I'm running Debian woody on i386.

[ps I posted this to the tcpdump workers list, but haven't had any
replies, so I thought I'd try here!]

Thanks for any help
Rory

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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:32:35AM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> 
> 
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
> testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
> (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.
> 
> knuth:~# apt-get install testing
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package testing
> 
> Does anyone have the real instructions?

Well, what it meant was to change your sources.list to point to testing
instead of stable and run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

I'm not sure if the following is currently necessary, but a few months
ago you needed to install the new versions of apt and dpkg before
running the upgrade:

1.  Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use testing instead of stable
packages.

2.  Run 'apt-get update'.

3.  Run 'apt-get install apt dpkg'

4.  Run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

Bob


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Re: Linux Universal Instant Messaging Client?

2002-04-18 Thread Paul F. Pearson
Everybuddy.

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Michael Kahle wrote:

> Once again, I answered my own question.  GAIM seems to now be able to
> do them all!  :)  Lucky me.  But how about a similar program GPLed written
> in Java?
> 
>  "Michael Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there is free software out there that acts as a
> > gateway
> > to AOL IM, ICQ, and MSN IM, etc.?
> > 
> > I know about GAIM, but I would like one program that replaces them
> > all.
> > 
> > Michael 
> > 
> > 
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gdkxft and non iso-1 characters

2002-04-18 Thread Grzegorz Prokopski
Hi!

The short version of my story is:
- I installed gdkxft (on my unstable) and it works quite nicely
- only thing that doesnt work are iso8859-2 characters.

It looks like it displays iso8859-1 chars intead of iso-2.
Locale and the rest of settings (like iso-2 font) are OK.
It works when I disable gdkxft.

Has anyone using non iso-1 chars got gdkxft working?
Where should I ask further?
Any other advice?

Best regards

Grzegorz Prokopski



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Re: Emacs' main menu font

2002-04-18 Thread Henrik Enberg
Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - Would it be possible to set the editor's font (ie: the editing area)
> without altering the mini-buffer's? I'd like to try some multi-byte fonts,
> but I want to have the minibuffer uses the default font (as what it is
> now).

This can't be done.

> - I'd like to have some of the keboard keys generate two or more
> characters; say, if I pressed "a", then Emacs would get it as "a[". Or
> better yet, to generate some (a pair of?) hex values of the multi-byte
> characters. I've been reading the manual of Emacs in www.gnu.org, but to
> no avail. I have tried to set the keyboard-translate, but it seems that
> the translation is one-to-one.

Try either abbrevs or skeleton.el.

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jigdo template for woody-i386-1.raw corrupt?

2002-04-18 Thread Joey Smith
I've been trying for 2-3 days now to get woody-i386-1.raw using
jigdo, but it always fails before it starts fetching packages
with the error:

jigdo-file print-missing: Invalid template data - corrupted file?
Created `woody-i386-1.raw.list'
Merging parts from `file:' URIs, if any...
jigdo-file make-image: Invalid template data - corrupted file?
jigdo-file failed with code 3 - aborting.

Now, I thought maybe this was something I was doing wrong, until
I discovered last night that I can generate woody-i386-2.raw using
jigdo, so it looks like maybe it really is a problem with the 
template file...

Where should something like this be reported? Bugs? Here? ...


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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread David Roundy
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:32:35AM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> 
> 
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
> testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
> (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.
> 
> knuth:~# apt-get install testing
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package testing
> 
> Does anyone have the real instructions?

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
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Re: Running Yahoo Messenger??

2002-04-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin  Hall Stevenson quotation:
> 
> FWIW, they automatically provide a "bulk mail" filter that catches most
> unwanted e-mail.

You don't honestly think that they filter out the spam sites to which
they sell your information, do you?


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Weblogic server shutdown

2002-04-18 Thread shyamk
I am new to Weblogic server (the practical side perhaps),
so I do not know how to shutdown the Weblogic server from the
text-console / command prompt.
Please help.

Regards,
Shyam

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Conflicts

2002-04-18 Thread Ted

Hi.
	I am trying to install the gnome games package uning gnome apt but it 
tells me
" The following packages have unmet dependencies libguile9: Conflicts 
libguile6 but 1:1.3.4-2 is installed."

..Any help appreciated.




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Re: Wrong sender address!

2002-04-18 Thread Andreas Grabner
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 12:13:46PM +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
> {$value}fail} bcfrFs
> 
> which rewrites a whole bunch of headers including the sender according
> to information found in /etc/email-addresses. The relevant line in there
> is simply:
> 
> brettp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Brett Parker

SOLVED

Yes that helped! The BIG "F" was missing.
and a line like 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  also helps.

Now im going to learn exim and burn my "Bat Book"

Thanks 

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Re: Upgrade to woody

2002-04-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin  David Smead quotation:
> 
> 
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . .
> testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new "testing" distribution
> (or the old "woody" distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror.

man sources.list

"point apt at the new distribution" doesn't mean "type the word testing
in a randomly-chosen spot on the command line".  It means "configure apt
to point to the new distribution".


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Re: kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread James Michael DuPont
Sorry to bother you all again,
This is what I get out.
I have tried looking everywhere on the net and cannot
find the headers. 
I would recompile my kernel so I have the headers that
fit, but I am not that good. Something keeps the
kernel from booting, maybe it is to big.

>>apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
>>Reading Package Lists... Done
>>Building Dependency Tree... Done
>>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
>>remove and 0 not upgraded.

I have tried to find the package everywhere!


--- Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -i is the dkpg switch for install
> you want apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> 
> It's in the help text
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:09:26AM -0700, James
> Michael DuPont wrote:
> > Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
> > I think that I must have done something wrong and
> > please excuse the stupid question.
> > 
> > In this mail :
> >
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
> > You write apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > 
> > Unfortunatly : 
> > # apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is
> not
> > known.
> > 
> > #apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed,
> 0 to
> > remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > 
> > I dont have the debian cd, but have
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian  
> potato
> > main non-free contrib
> > and
> > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> > potato/non-US main non-free contrib
> > 
> > in my  /etc/apt/sources.list
> > 
> > 
> > I am running potato 2.2r3.
> > My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.
> > 
> > I want to compile a module, 
> > and need the kernel headers
> > 
> > Here are the options that I have found on the net 
> > kernel-headers-2.2.19
> >
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> >
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> > 
> > 
> > Please advise,
> > and please respond to my mail directly if
> possible.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> > 
> > =
> > James Michael DuPont
> > 
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Re: Unable to mount cd-rom

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Juranich
I've got a similar setup.  I don't know if this is your problem but...

When you load the ide-scsi stuff, I think that it emulates EVERYTHING on that 
bus, unless you pass it a couple of boot parameters.  I don't know what these 
boot parameters are, and I haven't bothered to figure it out yet, so both my 
cdrom (actually a dvdrom) and cdrw device are under scsi emulation, since they 
are on the same bus (the dvdrom's the secondary master, and the cdrw's the 
secondary slave).

If /dev/sr0 is pointing to /dev/hdd, and you're not passing the special 
parameters to ide-scsi on boot, then this is most likely your problem.

First of all, make sure that you've got the devices straight.  The fact that
/cdburner points to /dev/sr0 while /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc looks a 
little odd, but I'm certainly no expert.

Next, change your fstab entries so that /dev/cdrom points to /dev/sr1 (or /dev/
sr0, or whatever).  Then you should be able to mount the device normally.

The fact that this is hanging your system is also strange.  Do you actually 
have two separate devices, or a single cdrw that you are trying to pawn off to 
your system as both a cdrom and a cdburner?  That fact might be confusing 
mount and do funny things to your system.

HTH

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Re: Unable to mount cd-rom

2002-04-18 Thread Quenten
Silly question but have you tried many diffrent cd's?  Is it a burned cd it is
locking up on? Or will it lock up on any cd?  You can try changing it to auto
instead of iso9660 and see if that helps any.

Sam Varghese wrote:

> I recently moved my Debian install over to a new hard disk and after
> this I find that I cannot mount my cd-rom.
>
> My /etc/fstab reads as under:
>
> /dev/hda2 /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
> 1
> /dev/hda5   noneswapsw  00
> proc/proc   procdefaults 0   0
> /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto 0   0
> /dev/cdrom/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0
> 0
> /dev/hda1   /boot   ext2 rw 0   2
> /dev/sr0/cdburner   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
>
> Other relevant info:
>
> sammo:~# ls -la /dev/cdrom
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Apr  9 18:58 /dev/cdrom ->
> hdc
>
> sammo:~# ls -la /dev/hdc
> brw-rw-rw-1 root cdrom 22,   0 Jul  6  2000 /dev/hdc
>
> I can play an audio cd using the cd-rom in question.
>
> When I try to mount a cd, the whole machine freezes up. I have to
> reset and then fsck the root partition before I can use it.
>
> Just to test out the cd-rom itself, I installed Mandrake on another
> partition and checked that there is nothing wrong with it.
>
> I tried deleting and recreating the device file but that did not make
> any difference.
>
> Any hints to get out of this would be appreciated.
>
> Sam
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Re: Unable to mount cd-rom

2002-04-18 Thread Martin Zipfel
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:47:48 +1000
Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently moved my Debian install over to a new hard disk and after
> this I find that I cannot mount my cd-rom.
>  
> My /etc/fstab reads as under:
>  
> /dev/hda2 /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
> 1
> /dev/hda5   noneswapsw  00
> proc/proc   procdefaults 0   0
> /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto 0   0
> /dev/cdrom/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0
> 0
> /dev/hda1   /boot   ext2 rw 0   2
> /dev/sr0/cdburner   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
>  

Hi,

i think this is due to your cd-burner,
you should handle your cdrom also like scsi, somethimg like this in
/etc/fstab:

/dev/sr0/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 
/dev/sr1/cdburn iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto

and add a boot parameter for both cd-drives to lilo:

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
append="hdc=ide-scsi hd?=ide-scsi"
depends on which IDE-connector you used for your cdrom and cdburner

This should work. 

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make-kpkg

2002-04-18 Thread dave mallery
hi

i had good luck making a custom 2.2.20 kernel yesterday (following the
newbie instructions)

this morning i made a custom 2.4.18 from the source package.

it is no good.. probably a config omission.


question:  can i simply: dpkg -r kernel-image-2.4.18_custom1.0_i386.deb ??


it needs to be obliterated, since it can't use the monitor.  will the 
above -r also re-arrange my /etc/lilo.conf? or do i have to do that by 
hand?

whatever happens, i don't want the existing 2.4.18_custom1.0 to be a lilo 
boot option.

thank you

dave
  

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Samba Messaging

2002-04-18 Thread Tinus Kotze
Hi

I converted my system to debian a while back and got the following problem. I 
can't receive/send messages while i can pretty much do anything else. I am 
connected to a LAN. My username is "jmak" and i will use a friends win2k 
machine to show some examples who's username is "mindlessdemon"
My system
Debian 3.0(Kernel 2.4.18)
Samba 2.2.3a-6

Here comes the problem.

smbclient -L mindlessdemon ->OK
smbclient -M mindlessdemon -> OK

smbclient -L jmak  -> OK
smbclient -M jmak -> FAIL
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ smbclient -M jmak
>>added interface ip=146.232.176.120 bcast=146.232.179.255 nmask=255.255.252.0
>>message start: ERRSRV - ERRaccess (The requester does not have  the  
>>necessary
>>access  rights  within  the specified  context for the requested function. 
>>The context is defined by the TID or the UID.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

The win machines can't send messages to me either, or I don't receive them 
correctly. I'm not sure about that part yet. I use linpopup on my side for a 
GUI interface for the popping.

Can somebody please help me. This problem is making me mad and has gone on 
t long.

Yours gratefully
Tinus


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Woody Install Problems Rpt.

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Rudmin
Woody installation failure:

I have found that when I use the TARball base system,
the tarball validates fine.  Then it extracts.  Then
it exits with an error (error return code=1).

I also tried the disks install, and that too crashes
at a similar point--during or just after validation.

So it would seem that what is posted out on the debian
site is broken.

It might be nice to know if there is a version
available or a tarball out there that installed okay.

 - Mike Rudmin

PS...  I am not sure where to send TESTING reports,
but if one of you who is in the know could forward it
on, I'd appreciate it.


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Re: kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread Bob Thibodeau
On my system,

apt-cache search kernel-headers

shows (among others)

kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci

you probably want one of those

Bob

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:27:47AM -0700, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> Sorry to bother you all again,
> This is what I get out.
> I have tried looking everywhere on the net and cannot
> find the headers. 
> I would recompile my kernel so I have the headers that
> fit, but I am not that good. Something keeps the
> kernel from booting, maybe it is to big.
> 
> >>apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> >>Reading Package Lists... Done
> >>Building Dependency Tree... Done
> >>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
> >>remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 
> I have tried to find the package everywhere!
> 
> 
> --- Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -i is the dkpg switch for install
> > you want apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > 
> > It's in the help text
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:09:26AM -0700, James
> > Michael DuPont wrote:
> > > Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
> > > I think that I must have done something wrong and
> > > please excuse the stupid question.
> > > 
> > > In this mail :
> > >
> >
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
> > > You write apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > 
> > > Unfortunatly : 
> > > # apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is
> > not
> > > known.
> > > 
> > > #apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed,
> > 0 to
> > > remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > > 
> > > I dont have the debian cd, but have
> > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian  
> > potato
> > > main non-free contrib
> > > and
> > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> > > potato/non-US main non-free contrib
> > > 
> > > in my  /etc/apt/sources.list
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am running potato 2.2r3.
> > > My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.
> > > 
> > > I want to compile a module, 
> > > and need the kernel headers
> > > 
> > > Here are the options that I have found on the net 
> > > kernel-headers-2.2.19
> > >
> > kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> > >
> > kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please advise,
> > > and please respond to my mail directly if
> > possible.
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > 
> > > mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =
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> > > 
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Re: Swapfiles

2002-04-18 Thread Mark Lanett
> >> Executables, being read-only, are mapped directly from disk and never
> >> use any swap at all.  Only data gets mapped to swap.

> I am a little puzzled by the comment "executables do not use swap" and I
> have to admit computer design is not my forte.

You need swap for data because the computer has run out of RAM and needs
some place to store the data, hence disk space, a.k.a. "swap". Once RAM
becomes available the data is read back in from swap ("paged").

You do NOT need swap space for executables because they can be read back in
from the original executable file. Executables do not change in memory and
therefore are identical to the original file. If you wrote them to swap you
would be wasting disk space and duplicating the executable no disk. So the
computer *does* "page" the RAM, but it does not use swap space. This is an
optimization, nothing more.

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Conflicts

2002-04-18 Thread Ted

Hi.
I am trying to install the gnome games package uning gnome apt but 
it tells me
" The following packages have unmet dependencies libguile9: Conflicts 
libguile6 but 1:1.3.4-2 is installed."

..Any help appreciated.





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vpopmail & qmailadmin guidance!?...

2002-04-18 Thread justin cunningham
hi, I'm trying to get qmailadmin to work and wondered if anyone here had
a quick how-to since the documentation on inter7.com is specific to
compiling & configuring from source and not deb.  Everything is
installed ok, I created the me file manually and vpopmail delivers mail
locally ok but I can't get to http://mail.domain.com/cgi-bin/qmailadmin

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/qmailadmin /usr/lib/qmailadmin/qmailadmin
Alias /images/qmailadmin /usr/share/qmailadmin/images/qmailadmin

Have been added to httpd.conf; so what did I do wrong?


installed are: 

autorespond_1.0.0-1_i386.deb
courier-imap_0.31-vauth.1_i386.deb
ezmlm-idx_0.53-4_i386.deb
libmysqlclient6_3.22.30-4.deb
libvpopmail-dev_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
libvpopmail-freecdb_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
libvpopmail-lmysql_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
libvpopmail-mysql_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
libvpopmail1_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
qmail_1.03-17_i386.deb
qmailadmin_0.45-1_i386.deb
ucspi-tcp_0.84-1_i386.deb
vpopmail-bin_4.9.9-1_i386.deb
vpopmail-doc_4.9.9-1_all.deb 


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Re: kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

2002-04-18 Thread James Michael DuPont
Thanks bob,
I have the exact same installed.

Funny 

my uname -r returns 2.2.19pre17.

 /etc/netlock/nlvcard.o was compiled for kernel
version 2.2.19pre17-compact
while this kernel is version 2.2.19pre17.

Anyway, does anyone have this netlock VPN client for
linux running? Or has used free S/WAN to talk to a
Nortel VPN server, probablly not :(

mike


--- Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my system,
> 
> apt-cache search kernel-headers
> 
> shows (among others)
> 
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci
> 
> you probably want one of those
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:27:47AM -0700, James
> Michael DuPont wrote:
> > Sorry to bother you all again,
> > This is what I get out.
> > I have tried looking everywhere on the net and
> cannot
> > find the headers. 
> > I would recompile my kernel so I have the headers
> that
> > fit, but I am not that good. Something keeps the
> > kernel from booting, maybe it is to big.
> > 
> > >>apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > >>Reading Package Lists... Done
> > >>Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > >>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
> > >>remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > 
> > I have tried to find the package everywhere!
> > 
> > 
> > --- Bob Thibodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -i is the dkpg switch for install
> > > you want apt-get install
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > 
> > > It's in the help text
> > > 
> > > Bob
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:09:26AM -0700, James
> > > Michael DuPont wrote:
> > > > Dear Debian Kernel Hackers.
> > > > I think that I must have done something wrong
> and
> > > > please excuse the stupid question.
> > > > 
> > > > In this mail :
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg02814.html
> > > > You write apt-get -i
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunatly : 
> > > > # apt-get -i kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > > Returns E: Command line option 'i' [from -i]
> is
> > > not
> > > > known.
> > > > 
> > > > #apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> > > > Returns : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly
> installed,
> > > 0 to
> > > > remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > > > 
> > > > I dont have the debian cd, but have
> > > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian  
> > > potato
> > > > main non-free contrib
> > > > and
> > > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> > > > potato/non-US main non-free contrib
> > > > 
> > > > in my  /etc/apt/sources.list
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am running potato 2.2r3.
> > > > My kernel says that it is 2.2.19pre17.
> > > > 
> > > > I want to compile a module, 
> > > > and need the kernel headers
> > > > 
> > > > Here are the options that I have found on the
> net 
> > > > kernel-headers-2.2.19
> > > >
> > >
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> > > >
> > >
> kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact_2.2.19pre17-3.deb
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Please advise,
> > > > and please respond to my mail directly if
> > > possible.
> > > > 
> > > > thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > =
> > > > James Michael DuPont
> > > > 
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Re: cut-n-pasting links

2002-04-18 Thread tom poe
Hi:  I'm clunking along with highlighting, then wander up to the top menu, 
click edit, and select copy.  This usually gets it to the buffer, for the 
desktop apps.  I'm using the Mozilla 0.6 version right now.
hth,
tom



On Thursday 18 April 2002 06:43, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:54:48PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > How can I cut-n-paste something that shows as a link in Mozilla
> > > and/or the gnome terminal? Every key combination I've tried seems to
> > > activate the link instead of putting the text in the buffer.
> >
> > Highlight the text.
>
> *That's* the problem! Point the cursor at the first character within a
> link that has some characters you want to cut-n-paste, press the left
> mouse button and *try* to highlight the characters you want. YOU CAN'T
> DO IT! Clicking *anywhere* within the link selects the entire link.
>
> > This copies.
>
> Not for a *link*.
>
> > Middle click where you want it.  This pastes.
>
> Only if you've managed to get what you want into the buffer.
>
> > Two button mice it'll vary if you both-click or right-click to paste.
> > Occasionally, you'll have to hold shift to copy from a terminal, it
> > depends on if the program also caputures mouse input, IIRC.
>
> The question was very specific. I didn't ask how cut-n-paste works
> *generally*. I *know* how to do that. Been doing it for years.
>
> Sorry for venting but why don't people *read* what's actually written?
> It just might prevent useless non-answers.


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Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 18-Apr-2002 John Habermann wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Do some support for a community group that recycles computers, installs 
> debian and then gives them to low income people. One of the recipients has 
> issues with Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape
> is entered into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error".
> Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our 
> early recipients and has just bought a new computer with money he received 
> from an accident claim. It is a 1.4 ghz athlon 256 ddr memory and has got 
> debian unstable with kde as the desktop environment, bit different to potato 
> with gnome as the desktop, which is what he started with. I am really 
> impressed that he has stuck with linux, shows you what happens when people 
> start learning computers on linux.

Seach this list for netscape and bus error.  Also look at the netscape bugs on
bugs.debian.org.  There have been different issues at different times causing
this. 


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Re: Woody not ready, methinks

2002-04-18 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 16:26, Michael Rudmin wrote:
> It looks to me like Woody is not quite ready for
> install.  
> 
> P.S.  If you reply to this cc: me over at Mike_Rudmin
> "at" yahoo.com, or I won't see it.  Not that I have
> to.  [@ sign was spelled out to jinx spammers].

I've had no problems whatsoever. I'm just installed woody today
and yesterday from various netinst and mini-cd's.

I can really recommend the mini-cd from
http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/

I dl-d it yesterday (when the site was really slow due to being
mentioned in debian-weekly-news. I tested installing it in VMWare (since
that's so easy and risk-free). WOrked like a charm.

Today I saw that a new version was out... dl-in it all again was a bit
too much, but a simple rsync what enough to just get the differences,
and a few MB's later (and not 200... maybe 10-15, i dunno) I had a new
image.

Tested it on vmware again, worked like a charm again, installation in
about 15-20 minutes (including everything, ext3 and reiserfs,
mailserver, ssh, updates)

I've now burned that cd-image to a 3inch cd... very handy to have
around.

I really think woody is very near, and could be released any day now,
the new boot-floppies work perfectly.

I think you should check md5sums of files you download, or maybe use a
better downloading system, like rsync.

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Re: Suggestions for multi-platform game development library?

2002-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> 
> Any suggestions?  I'd prefer opinions with experiences.  I know of
> allegro, SDL, and libgengameng (but I don't do C++, ... yet.) just from
> a quick scan through dselect.
> 
> I guess what I'm looking for is something to manage to graphics (no 3D
> required, yet...), sound, and perhaps sound input/processing, but
> don't worry too much about the last one yet.  Oh, and multilanguage
> support (input/output) is a must. 
> 
> I'm also up for suggested programming languages.
> 
> If this sounds very vague, it's because I haven't quite got all the
> specifics down in my head yet.  It's still a sketch, but I'd like to
> get something going.

The SDL is a good choice.  There are bindings for every major programming and
scripting language.  Hit their website http://www,libsdl.org I believe, if not
a quick freshmeat search should help.


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