Re: virus detection

[Matthew Dalton]

Zac Epkes wrote:
> 
> I was unable to see who said there where no Viruses for UNIX based systems, i 
> jsut
> wanted to tell anyone and everyone, im sure there are Virueses for ALL 
> systems of
> anykind, even that old TANDY or whatever you can pull out of your closet/attic
> (hehe im only 17 here) im sure there is a virus SOMEWHERE for it...

Sure, there are viruses for most systems, including Linux.

But when something is wrong with your Linux system, checking it for
viruses is the very last task on the investigation list. Hell, it isn't
even on my list.

The original poster of this thread reported some unusual things
happening to his system, and immediately assumed it must be a virus. I
don't know why he thought that -- maybe he's been using Windows his
whole life and has used his Windows skillz to (mis)diagnose his Linux
system. A common trap amongst newbies.

You see, it all comes down to statistics and chance. How many viruses
are there for Linux? Three? Four? Searching the f-secure site
(www.f-secure.com) brings up two real Linux viruses (Bliss and Stoag)
and some other random junk. On the Stoag page it says that this virus is
not known to be in the wild. Then there's the recent Ramen Worm, which
in my opinion is not a virus at all, but simply a scripted script kiddie
(ie. it is easily stopped if you've managed to keep up with security
alerts and have upgraded your software, or just simply stopped running
services you don't need). Contrast that to how many viruses exist for
Windows. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Quite possibly. So what are
the chances that your Linux system has been hit with a virus? I've
certainly never heard of it happening (except with the Ramen Worm... but
you already know my opinion about that).

There are virus scanners for Linux... but they scan windows files for
windows viruses! Seems there's no need for a linux-virus scanning virus
scanner.

I'd guess that the original poster's machine was hacked (possibly by
JRRTolkien?).


> Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> > However, there is no such word as 'virii'.  There is one virus and two 
> > viruses.
> >  The word virus is like the english work fish.

Well this is just getting pedantic... for a start, the plural of 'fish'
is 'fish', so virus is not at all like it. I've used 'viruses' in this
email, but personally I prefer 'virii' because it sounds better. People
call their computers 'boxen', so why not 'virii'?

Matthew

ps. Yes, I know what the differences are between viruses, worms and
trojan horses. Most people these days seem to just sum all of them up as
viruses. This seems to be a source of confusion in this thread as well.

Re: mouse -> clicks heard on speaker

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

Hello,

This is interesting since I have a box on my lan that has
the same exact thing. Very irritating I agree! I seen a suggestion
that you move the card further from the cpu, I may just try that 
and see if it helps. BTW, this box (p166) is dualboot win98/debian
testing and the noise is on both OS's! So, maybe when the new memory
arrives, I'll just move the card in the same time.

Good luck

On Tuesday 06 February 2001 16:52, will trillich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 05:26:50PM -0600, ktb wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 03:26:40PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > > 
> > > whenever i move my mouse -- for every single pixel (or every
> > > mouse pointer redraw) -- i hear a small 'click' through my
> > > speakers. this happens on both console (alt-ctl-f[1-6]) and in X
> > > displays...
> > >
> > > any ideas? what further information could i provide?
> > > 
> >
> > Are you using a window manager that supports sounds for various
> > actions?  Does the sound persist when you change to a different window
> > manager such as fvwm?  Since it happens in console it probably doesn't
> > matter but that is what popped into my head.  Does it happen with all
> > buttons on your mouse?  Does shutting off the bell with "xset" or
> > "set bell-style none" have any effect?  Just a few thoughts...
>
> i'm pretty sure the window manageris irrelevant, as i can switch
> to a console (ctl-alt-f2) and via the gpm cursor gadget, i still
> get the click (more like a buzz when moving the mouse over a long
> distance). i can wait until the screen saver takes over on X, and
> the console mouse-move 'buzz' is still there.
>
> but in case it matters i'm using kde on potato.
> in the control center (for preferences) there's a "sounds" area
> with three subitems: midi, sound server, system bell. i can test
> the system bell which seems to work properly; plus, when kde
> starts or shuts down i get the fancy-pants music/chord, too.
>
> there's no 'clang when closing a window' or 'boing on maximize'
> sound setup (from what i can tell). plus, the mouse-move
> buzz/click affects the consoles, as well.
>
> but if i'm playing an audio cd, it's irritating to have the mouse
> buzz interfere with taste of honey, lujon or concerto in f...
> got s'more ideas why moving the mouse one pixel would 'tick' at
> my speakers? electromagnetic induction? anything?
>
> --
>
> by the way... how do you change from kde to another window
> manager?

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compiling with two processors

[John L . Fjellstad]

I'm trying to compile some of the new application using the 'Debian'
method.

If I had the source, I would just do a make -j3, but with debian,
there is this rules thingie. Is there a way to make the system
compile using both processors by passing a parameter or something
or do I have to hack the rules file?

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Re: Software Mestizo Manifesto (fwd)

[Roberto Diaz]

Forget it and my apologies.. I only wanted to make a manifesto no another
license.. just to advice.. just to give freedom to authors to say "please
dont use my software to drop a nuclear weapon if possible".. 

I am not a lawyer.. only very stupid I see.. if somebody wants to kill
millions using free software go ahead.. we cant say "please dont do
that" is very risky legally..

Sorry truly. sorry for the off-topic.. please dont reply this message
anymore.. thank you for your patient.

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 * Manifesto meaning it has been developed with the help of many diverse 
 * individuals worldwide; no matter their racial or cultural origin, they 
 * all work together in peace and harmony in the belief of humankind 
 * fraternity.  Using this software with the purpose of harming these 
 * principles is to harm the software itself.
 *
 * We advice to use it only in the context of these principles or refrain 
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Re: ssh-problems

[Philipp Schulte]

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:01:21PM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote: 

> i think your /etc/hosts.deny (or allow/both) may be too strict. i would
> reccomend installing an identd server on 192.168.0.50 and setup reverse
> dns for that zone 192.168.0.50 for optimal results. the system is just
> paranoid to let you in because the usual checks to verify the system
> that
> is connecting are not working.

Thanks for your suggestion, it helped to point me in the right
direction. My /etc/hosts.deny and .allow were correct but I just added
an entry in /etc/hosts for this machine and now everything seems to
work fine.
Phil

unstable problems

[Renai]

Hi,

I have just installed potato from cd-rom, and then dist-upgraded to
unstable afterwards. However, during the configuration process for the new
unstable packages, the process crashed, and would not install 8 packages,
all of them with a 'netbase' dependency. When I try to install netbase with
dpkg, it gives me the following error:

/bin/sh: /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure: no such file or dir
E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure -- apt returned an error code (127)

can someone help? What's going on?

thanks,

Renai

Re: forcing a module in

[Warren Turkal]

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On Sunday 04 February 2001 11:57, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> Hey people. I'm trying to set up the latest tulip driver with kernel
> 2.2.18pre21, and as usual, insmod complains that it can't find the kernel
> version. I'm told that you can force the module in anyway, but I've tried
> the -f option and it still complained. Is there a way to force the module
> in and ignore the error? A friend told me that he did that and it worked.
>
> Or, is there a fix for this? It works perfectly with the 2.2.12 kernel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

Install the 2.4.0 and compile it.  The 2.2.18pre21 is very problematic.
- --Warren

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How to make a boot/root floppy?

[Krzys Majewski]

I've been trying to roll my own boot/root floppy with syslinux. So far
I've  managed to put  a kernel  on one  floppy, a  root fs  on another
floppy, boot the kernel, mount the  root fs. The snag I've run into is
that the root floppy isn't  big enough for libc, /bin/sh, and whatever
stuff I'd like to have (networking). I've put busybox on it,
which is a very small implementation of basic unix programs (including
a budget  version of /bin/sh). But that's  all I can do,  and it's not
even enough to get a login shell.

Now,  I  can easily fit  on one  floppy  a  gzipped filesystem  image
containing libc, /bin/sh,  and busybox. But I don't  know how to mount
this image  as the root  fs! I've tried  the initrd= option,  but this
seems to  only work as  an "interim" root  fs used presumably  only to
hold kernel modules which may be needed to mount the *real* root fs. This is
not my case. I want the initrd file to *be* the real root fs. How can 
I accomplish this? If I can't  accomplish this, how can I mount a root
fs  from more  than one  floppy  (e.g. busybox  on floppy  #1, libc  &
/bin/sh on floppy #2)? 

cheers,
chris

Re: Password problems

[Warren Turkal]

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Try checking your PAM config.  Did you change config files while upgrading?  
If so there is a good chance that md5 passwords were enabled but now are not.

- --Warren 


On Saturday 03 February 2001 21:37, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 10:02:23PM -0500, Keith & Cecile Schooley wrote:
> > This is going to sound like an asinine problem, but here goes ...
> >
> > My machine seems to have forgotten my password.
> >
> > Yes, I said my machine.  Not me.  I've had it burned into my
> > consciousness, through booting up about a hundred times (successfully)
> > today.
> >
> > I finally got a problem with getting my video card recognized, but when I
> > tried to log back in, I couldn't get in either by my user name or as
> > root.
> >
> > Any suggestions on why this would happen?
> >
> > Is there any possible way to deal with this, other than to reinstall the
> > whole system?
> >
> > Grace and peace,
>
> I've had that happen with xdm before, and it was fine after a reboot.
> Is it xdm? Can you get into a virtual terminal?
>
> Mike

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Re: KDE Sound Problem

[Warren Turkal]

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You must use alsa.  Install alsa-source and follow the directions in 
/usr/doc/alsa-source/*

- --Warren 

On Saturday 03 February 2001 17:34, Dale Morris wrote:
> KDE doesn't initialize it's sound module when I start it up. I have sound
> configured in the kernel (2.4.0) using the Ensonic 1371 sound card
> settings. When I check the 'info' KDE isn't recognizing any sound card.
> I am able to get sound by executing gmixer. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> thanks

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RE: virus detection

[Joris Lambrecht]

In dutch we call this MUGGENZIFTEN wich translates as Sifting mosquito's.

But it is nice to know though ;-) 
Point was that there was one guy asking can i be infected with a virus on my
Linux/i386 box, while another one replied he couldn't because "for linux
there is no such thing", probably works for the government.

As a matter of fact the number of viruses (mostly scripts) for unix/linux is
growing, fortunatly much slower then for MS-W.

Greetings,

Joris

-Original Message-
From: David Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 8:10 PM
To: Zac Epkes
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: virus detection


Quoting Zac Epkes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I was unable to see who said there where no Viruses for UNIX based
systems, i jsut
> wanted to tell anyone and everyone, im sure there are Virueses for ALL
systems of
> anykind, even that old TANDY or whatever you can pull out of your
closet/attic
> (hehe im only 17 here) im sure there is a virus SOMEWHERE for it...

Well, I'd love to see you try to infect, say, an HP9845 with a virus.
The entire OS is contained in ROM. (It isn't unique in that respect.)

Cheers,

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Re: How to delete a file called "-gzip"?

[Warren Turkal]

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You can also try 
rm '-gzip'
the ' are single quotes
- --Warren

On Monday 05 February 2001 16:45, Erik Steffl wrote:
> cls/cs wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:29:39PM +0100, Kerstin Hoef-Emden wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > this is a completely stupid thing I did. I wanted to make a zipped tar
> > > archive of my complete user home account and write it to MOD.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I used the following line:
> > >
> > > tar -cvvf -gzip /mod/name-of-archive folder-name
> > >
> > > Now my home-partition is 100 % full and I don´t know how to delete that
> > > -gzip file! :-(
> > > Gee, why doesn´t tar realize that things starting with "-" are no file
> > > names.
> > >
> > > I tried
> > > rm "-gzip"
> > > rm ´-gzip´
> > > rm \-gzip
> > >
> > > None of these worked.
> > >
> > > What is the trick? (There must be one ...)
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kerstin
> >
> > ...guessing here,  but if you
> >
> > mv -gzip foo (foo being some other name not beginning with "-")
> >
> > and then
> >
> > rm foo
> >
> > does that work?
> >
> > bentley taylor.
> >
> > ps.  i'm too chicken to replicate a -foo file.
>
>   two ways:
>
>   rm ./-gzip
>   rm -- -gzip
>
>   the first one should work everywhere, the second one works with gnu
> rm, I think, not sure though.
>
>   erik

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Re: How to delete a file called "-gzip"?

[Brian May]

> "Warren" == Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Warren> You can also try rm '-gzip' the ' are single quotes
Warren> --Warren

It won't work. The shell will strip the quotes, and the command line
to rm is exactly the same.

eg:

snoopy:~# rm '--help'
Usage: rm [OPTION]... FILE...
Remove (unlink) the FILE(s).

  -d, --directory   unlink directory, even if non-empty (super-user only)
  -f, --force   ignore nonexistent files, never prompt
  -i, --interactive prompt before any removal
  -r, -R, --recursive   remove the contents of directories recursively
  -v, --verbose explain what is being done
  --helpdisplay this help and exit
  --version output version information and exit

Report bugs to .
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Re: How to delete a file called "-gzip"?

[Alexis Roda]

Brian May wrote:
> 
> > "Warren" == Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Warren> You can also try rm '-gzip' the ' are single quotes
> Warren> --Warren
> 
> It won't work. The shell will strip the quotes, and the command line
> to rm is exactly the same.
> 
> eg:
> 
> snoopy:~# rm '--help'
> Usage: rm [OPTION]... FILE...
> Remove (unlink) the FILE(s).
> 
>   -d, --directory   unlink directory, even if non-empty (super-user only)
>   -f, --force   ignore nonexistent files, never prompt
>   -i, --interactive prompt before any removal
>   -r, -R, --recursive   remove the contents of directories recursively
>   -v, --verbose explain what is being done
>   --helpdisplay this help and exit
>   --version output version information and exit

Quoted from the rm man page:

   GNU rm, like every program that uses the  getopt  function
   to  parse  its  arguments,  lets  you use the -- option to
   indicate that all following arguments are non-options.  To
   remove  a  file  called `-f' in the current directory, you
   could type either
  rm -- -f
   or
  rm ./-f


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Re: adding user to dip group doesn't work

[Justin B Rye]

Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> When you add a user to a group, they must log off of the system completely and
> log back in before the changes take affect.

You just need a fresh login - a new xterm won't do it, but su-ing to
yourself will.

>  Run 'groups' as the user to ensure
> they are actually in the right groups.

Or "id"; and there's "members" (in its own package) to tell you
who's in a given group.
-- 
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mbr-package vs lilo in mbr?

[Anders Lennartsson]

Hi

I'm interested in comments on the pros and cons of three alternative
configurations:

1) Keeping the dos mbr and having lilo in a partition boot sector.
   Changing the bootable flags will initiate lilo etc.
   This seems infeasible if the partition where lilo resides starts
beyond 1024 cylinders.

2) Installing the mbr package and having lilo in a partition boot
sector.
   Is it correct that this may work for partitions beyond 1024 cyls?

3) Installing lilo in the mbr directly.
   As I understand lilo>=21.4 finds kernels beyond 1024 cyls in this
config.

I guess the fourth alternative should be using grub, but I'm yet too
unfamiliar with this.

Background:
This discussion came up for a W2K-Debian Woody dual boot Sony Laptop
with 20GB of disk.
I have read that W2K disk manager can be upset by an unrecognized boot
sectors
and some other small problems and I'm hesitating about which way may
cause the
least problem in the future.

Anders

Re: 2.4 kernel

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Harald Thingelstad, 

> > With the proper modutils ( >= 2.4.1), I was able to build it (with
> > kernel-package) with no problems. You'll need some extras if you want to
> > run devfs (devfsd) or reiserfs (reiserfsprogs), but if you don't want to
> > do anything too exciting, it should just work.
> 
> Then again, you can save yourself from all those kinds of potential trouble
> with make-kpkg. It builds debian packages from the kernel source.
> I normally use something like:

Well... While Kernel-package (ie., make-kpkg) is great, and I do use it
all the time, it doesn't obviate the need for these extra packages if
you use those bits of the kernel. Kernel-package won't install the
modutils that you need to use the 2.4 series if you are using potato or
testing (or at least, testing when I did it). It also wont automagically
read your mind that you're compiling in reiserfs and install
reiserfsprogs for you.

> Brand new kernel:
> 
> cd /usr/src
> tar xjf archive/linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2
> bunzip2 -c archive/patch-2.4.1.bz2 |patch -p0
> mv linux kernel-source-2.4.1
> ln kernel-source-2.4.1 linux
> cd linux
> make menuconfig
> sudo make-kpkg --revision computername.0 kernel-image
> cd ..
> sudo dpkg -i kernel-image_2.4.1_computername.0_i386.deb
> (fix up the lilo settings as I don't agree with the defaults, then run lilo.)
> 
> Later reconfiguration:
> 
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make menuconfig
> sudo make-kpkg clean 
> sudo make-kpkg --revision computername.1 kernel-image
> cd /boot
> mmv "*.2.4.1" "#1.2.4.1.0"

I've never done this above step, and never had any problems. Is it
necessary? Anyone?

> cd /lib/modules
> mv 2.4.1 2.4.1.0
> sudo dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image_2.4.1_computername.1_i386.deb
> (fix up the lilo settings as I don't agree with the defaults, then run lilo.)

The lilo behaviour can be fine-tuned in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf. For
example, because I have /boot as its own partition, I have
kernel-package install its symlinks into /boot, rather than /.

cheers,

damon

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Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Joris Lambrecht, 
> you could of course pay for it ...

This is linux - we don't pay for anything... Ask Corel :)

cheers,

damon

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RE: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux

[Joris Lambrecht]

except for cable, dsl, isdn, satellite, cd's, phones ...

cheers,

joris

-Original Message-
From: Damon Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:27 AM
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux


Quoth Joris Lambrecht, 
> you could of course pay for it ...

This is linux - we don't pay for anything... Ask Corel :)

cheers,

damon

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Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

[Damon Muller]

Quoth John Foster, 
> I recently upgraded to a full woody/testing installation. After a few
> hours of reading & experimenting with "xf86configure"  I got the new
> XFree86 4.0  server to work well. I still have 1 problem. The
> resolutions that are accepted on my monitor are "640x480" "800x600"
> "1024x768" "1280x1024" 24bpp . When the server runs XF86Config-4; it
> automatically loads the lower resolution first. I then have to manually
> (CTRL+ALT +/-) change the resolutions. The problem is that when I select

While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself
using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your
problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix.

Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth
that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth'
in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of
the line, and Bob's your uncle.

cheers,

damon

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debconf under unstable

[Renai]

This afternoon I've been trying to get an unstable installation to work -
and debconf keeps baulking. Understandably, 13 or so packages won't install
without debconf being installed.

It's giving compilation errors in perl files or something like that -
pretty complicated. Could someone have a look and see if they can apt-get
debconf - and if it installs ok?

Is this just something that's temporary?

sorry about the lack of detail!

thanks,

Renai

Re: Network device (eth0)

[Lukas]

"Danilo C. M. Marques" wrote:
> ? I loaded the correct module to my eth0 device (ne.o because I have a
> NE2000 ISA PnP network card), with the correct options (IO=0x300 IRQ=3).
> 

Are you sure of that IRQ ? I'm afraid this belongs to one of the serial
ports (COM2 probably). Maybe there is a conflict between IRQs.

Greetings,
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Urgent : Linux Certification

[Joris Lambrecht]

I'm looking for a 
linux certification course wich someone has to start teaching rather soon 
(buisiness as usual)
What organistation 
should i look to for such courses ? I'm currently looking at www.lpi.org but seem to remember there's a lot of 
criticism about this ?
 
Anyone 
?
 
Thank 
You,
 
Joris

Networking, /etc/network/interfaces, mapping, iface, and multiple configurations

[kmself]

Question regarding use of /etc/network/interfaces to allow autmajick
detection and configuration of eth0 on a laptop that wanders widely.

What I'd like is for the beast to configure itself to:

  - Standalone operation
  - Static assignment (home)
  - Other arbitrary static assignment (TBD)
  - DHCP (various)

...but I can't quite get the swing of it.

What's really blowing it for me is trying to figure out what the
'script' part of the networking configuration does.  What I'd like are
some pointers to some solid docs on this, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown
examples don't quite do the trick.

Thanks.


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Re: Networking, /etc/network/interfaces, mapping, iface, and multiple configurations

[Bud Rogers]

On Wednesday 07 February 2001 05:43, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Question regarding use of /etc/network/interfaces to allow autmajick
> detection and configuration of eth0 on a laptop that wanders widely.

If your laptop has a pcmcia network card, have you looked at 
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts?  That's how I handle roaming configurations.  
It's not quite automagic, but close enough for me. 

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Potato and kernel 2.4

[Morten Bo Johansen]

I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link
explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4
kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages
(e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system..



Thanks

-- 
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Re: XMMS, esd, and 2.4 kernel?

[Richard Black]

I haven't been able to get a sound out of anything that uses esd (e.g. with
xmms) since I upgraded to 2.4.0.  I can play sound from xmms directly to alsa
(at least, I think that is what I'm doing :-)) when I am root, but that is it.

Please let me know if you have more success!  Cheers

Richard


Rob Rati wrote:

> I upgraded to 2.4 and the esd output plugin for XMMS doesn't seem to
> work anymore.  I can get sound if I use the OSS output plugin, but the
> ESD one would play anything.  Well, it does but it's for litterally 1
> second and it repeats that 1 second and slows down my machine.  Do I
> need a new version of libesd or something to work with the 2.4 kernel?
>
> Rob
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Re: Gnome 1.2 and potato

[Moritz Schulte]

Rob Rati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are there Gnome 1.2 packages available for potato anywhere?

Yes, Ximian (http://www.ximian.com/) is packaging GNOME for several
GNU/Linux distributions, including Debian Potato. If you want to give
it a try, add the following line to you /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main

and do apt-get update && apt-get install task-helix-core (which
installs the core elements of the Ximian GNOME
desktop). task-helix-gnome will install much more...

moritz
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Oracle 8i ProC and Debian Potato

[Stan Brown]

I have jsut set up a Debian Potato system and installed Oracle 81 on it.

All of this went well.

Now I went back inot the Oracle installer and added Proc, shich I need in
order to compile the Perl Oracle BDB. I decided to test the install ny
compiling a sample program.

bad news, _Lot's_ of erors. The firs one is failing to find stddef.h, tehn
stdarg.h ... and so on.

What am I doing wrong here?

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XF86v4: mouse and fonts

[kmself]

I've upgraded my laptop from stable to testing.  In the process, I seem
to have versioned up to XFree86v4.  Currently:

  - X display managers don't allow a session to start (see attached
error output).  This is annoying, but not a biggie.  startx works
fine.  But I have been beating my head against the wall trying to
figure out what wdm's startup sequence is.

  - Mouse:  how do you configure three-button emulation for a two-button
touchpad with V4?  This is driving me nuts.

  - Fonts.  I've got truetype fonts and had been using xfstt.
Currently, if I add the line

xset fp+ unix/:7101

...to my /etc/X11/Xsession or ~/.xinitrc file, X fails to launch any
rxvts and crashes when I attempt to launch them manually after a
couple of attempts.


Copy of /var/log/XFree86.0.log:

use: X [:] [option]
-a #   mouse acceleration (pixels)
-acdisable access control restrictions
-audit int set audit trail level
-auth file select authorization file
bc enable bug compatibility
+bsenable any backing store support
-bsdisable any backing store support
-c turns off key-click
c #key-click volume (0-100)
-cc intdefault color visual class
-co file   color database file
-core  generate core dump on fatal error
-dpi int   screen resolution in dots per inch
dpms   enables VESA DPMS monitor control
-dpms  disables VESA DPMS monitor control
-deferglyphs [none|all|16] defer loading of [no|all|16-bit] glyphs
-f #   bell base (0-100)
-fc string cursor font
-fn string default font name
-fp string default font path
-help  prints message with these options
-I ignore all remaining arguments
-ld intlimit data space to N Kb
-lf intlimit number of open files to N
-ls intlimit stack space to N Kb
-nolockdisable the locking mechanism
-logo  enable logo in screen saver
nologo disable logo in screen saver
-nolisten string   don't listen on protocol
-p #   screen-saver pattern duration (minutes)
-pnaccept failure to listen on all ports
-nopn  reject failure to listen on all ports
-r turns off auto-repeat
r  turns on auto-repeat 
-s #   screen-saver timeout (minutes)
-sp file   security policy file
-sudisable any save under support
-t #   mouse threshold (pixels)
-terminate terminate at server reset
-to #  connection time out
-tst   disable testing extensions
ttyxx  server started from init on /dev/ttyxx
v  video blanking for screen-saver
-v screen-saver without video blanking
-wmWhenMapped default backing-store
-x string  loads named extension at init time 
+xinerama  Enable XINERAMA extension
-xinerama  Disable XINERAMA extension
-query host-name   contact named host for XDMCP
-broadcast broadcast for XDMCP
-indirect host-namecontact named host for indirect XDMCP
-port port-num UDP port number to send messages to
-from local-addressspecify the local address to connect from
-once  Terminate server after one session
-class display-class   specify display class to send in manage
-cookie xdm-auth-bits  specify the magic cookie for XDMCP
-displayID display-id  manufacturer display ID for request
The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments:
-kbdisable the X Keyboard Extension
+kbenable the X Keyboard Extension
[+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
   enable/disable accessx key sequences
-ar1   set XKB autorepeat delay
-ar2   set XKB autorepeat interval
-noloadxkb don't load XKB keymap description
-xkbcomp   default keymap compiler
-xkbdb file that contains default XKB keymaps
-xkbmapXKB keyboard description to load on startup


Device Dependent Usage
-xf86config file   specify a configuration file
-modulepath paths  specify the module search path
-logfile file  specify a log file name
-configure probe for devices and write an XF86Config
-probeonly probe for devices, then exit
-scanpci   execute the scanpci module and exit
-verbose [n]   verbose startup messages
-logverbose [n]verbose log messages
-quiet   

Re: compiling with two processors

[Moritz Schulte]

"John L . Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If I had the source, I would just do a make -j3, but with debian,
> there is this rules thingie.

debian/rules contains the rules for building the package. There's a
target 'build', which builds the application. See, which targets are
called by 'build'. There should be a call to '$(MAKE)' - here you
could add additional arguments to make.

hth,
moritz
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Re: Networking, /etc/network/interfaces, mapping, iface, and multiple configurations

[kmself]

on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 06:03:46AM -0600, Bud Rogers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 February 2001 05:43, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > Question regarding use of /etc/network/interfaces to allow autmajick
> > detection and configuration of eth0 on a laptop that wanders widely.
> 
> If your laptop has a pcmcia network card, have you looked at 
> /etc/pcmcia/network.opts?  That's how I handle roaming configurations.  
> It's not quite automagic, but close enough for me. 

No, it's onboard ethernet.  I've got a PCMCIA modem, but don't have that
working yet either.

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Re: Potato and kernel 2.4

[Moritz Schulte]

Morten Bo Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link
> explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4
> kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages
> (e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system..

linux/Documentation/Changes says which packages need to be upgraded.
You could compile the source packages from Debian Woody/Sid on your
Potato system, to get newer versions. Should work...

hth,
moritz
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Re: Urgent : Linux Certification

[Shawn Kelley]

I HIGHLY recommend the Sair/Gnu Linux LCA certification.  It's not 
distribution specific, thereby allowing you a broader base of knowledge.


Shawn Kelley
LCP



From: Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'debian-user@lists.debian.org'" 
Subject: Urgent : Linux Certification
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:39:57 +0100

I'm looking for a linux certification course wich someone has to start
teaching rather soon (buisiness as usual)
What organistation should i look to for such courses ? I'm currently 
looking

at www.lpi.org   but seem to remember there's a lot of
criticism about this ?

Anyone ?

Thank You,

Joris


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Re: Potato and kernel 2.4

[Moritz Schulte]

Oh, btw:

From: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Packages for using kernel 2.4.x with potato
To:  
cc:  
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:49:26 +0100 (CET)


Since it seems noone has already done this: I'll set up an apt-able
archive with _all_ the packages someone might need when upgrading the
kernel to 2.4.x .  I hope I'll have it ready till Tuesday. I plan to
include:

Upgraded packages:
- modutils
- util-linux
- e2fsprogs
- ppp
- pcmcia-cs

New packages:
- kernel sources and perhaps images
- devfsd
- iptables
- reiserfsprogs
- usbview and usbutils
- some ISDN packages
- perhaps linux-ntfs


I'll start with i386. I can also do this for other architectures if
requested.


cu,
Adrian

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cool. :)

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Re: compiling with two processors

[Colin Watson]

Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"John L . Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> If I had the source, I would just do a make -j3, but with debian,
>> there is this rules thingie.
>
>debian/rules contains the rules for building the package. There's a
>target 'build', which builds the application. See, which targets are
>called by 'build'. There should be a call to '$(MAKE)' - here you
>could add additional arguments to make.

If it really does '$(MAKE)', then you can just do 'make -j3 -f
debian/rules build; fakeroot debian/rules binary' and the make flags
will be passed down. Setting MAKEFLAGS might also work, and then you can
use dpkg-buildpackage or debuild and avoid having to call the build and
binary targets separately.

If it just does 'make', file a bug report. :)

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Antwort: Potato and kernel 2.4

["Martin_Tanzer"]

Get the sources 2.4.1 from a Mirror of www.kernel.org and follow the
kernel-howto from LDP, which is very good. If you don't know about all featuers,
then its likely you will compile more than once ;-)
Just run make xconfig; make dep, make clean, make bzdisk (!) - you can try your
new kerlnel from the floppy, before you install it. Before you run make modules
modules_install.
And you need modutils - package from testing. On my system 2.4.1 runs perfect,

If you do it the way I suggest (and the HOWTO;-), you don't need to be arfaid to
harm the system. And you'll learn a lot of Linux by compiling your own kernel.

martin




Morten Bo Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07.02.2001 13:42:21

An: Debian Users 
Kopie:   (Blindkopie: Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE)
Blindkopie:Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE
Thema:  Potato and kernel 2.4





I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link
explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4
kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages
(e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system..



Thanks

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Mouse

[Ales Jerman]

Hello!
I have one question. 
How to set mouse as serial device and not as PS/2 device?
Because on the startup it shows that mouse is connected to PS/2, but it is
not. So, where to change it?
Bye,
Ales Jerman
from Slovenia

Re: Mouse

[Hanno Böttcher]

What distribution do you use?
There are several tools for doing this or you can look at /etc/gpm.conf
(i think that's the config file if you use gpm what's the standard)

Hanno


- Original Message -
From: Ales Jerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: Mouse


> Hello!
> I have one question.
> How to set mouse as serial device and not as PS/2 device?
> Because on the startup it shows that mouse is connected to PS/2, but it is
> not. So, where to change it?
> Bye,
> Ales Jerman
> from Slovenia
>
>
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Re: Mouse

[Ales Jerman]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Hanno Böttcher wrote:

> What distribution do you use?
Debian, of course!

> There are several tools for doing this or you can look at /etc/gpm.conf
There is no file with this name.
Bye,

Ales Jerman
from Slovenia

Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

[John Foster]

Damon Muller wrote:
> While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself
> using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your
> problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix.
> 
> Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth
> that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth'
> in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of
> the line, and Bob's your uncle.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> damon

Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use
1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about
40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that
resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120.
Other ideas?
-- 

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HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[virtanen]

1)
Has anyone succesfully used 

HP cd-writer 9100i (IDE) 
xcdroast
Debian 2.2. (potato)

combined to burn cds?

My brand new machine has got the above combination and I cannot setup
xcdroast.
xcdroast setup doesn't seem to see the cdwriter as a writer at all. 

On the kernel there are installed ide-sci and sg modules 
Any clue, where the problem is?
___

2)
How to use instead cdrecord program (if xcdroast doesn't work) to copy
cds?

My burner is /dev/hdc and there is another cddriver at /dev/hdd
 
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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[Hall Stevenson]

> 1)
> Has anyone succesfully used
>
> HP cd-writer 9100i (IDE)

I have the 9150i model... probably close enough.


> xcdroast
> Debian 2.2. (potato)
>
> combined to burn cds?
>
> My brand new machine has got the above combination
> and I cannot setup xcdroast. xcdroast setup doesn't
> seem to see the cdwriter as a writer at all.
>
> On the kernel there are installed ide-sci and sg modules
> Any clue, where the problem is?
> ___
>
> 2) How to use instead cdrecord program (if xcdroast
> doesn't work) to copy cds?
>
> My burner is /dev/hdc and there is another cddriver
> at /dev/hdd

Sounds like it's a scsi-emulation problem. There's likely nothing wrong
with your cd-writer or the software you're using. xcdroast, I believe,
uses cdrecord on the back-end, so if xcdroast doesn't work, cdrecord
probably won't either.

This link, http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/faq-a8.html#2, may help you
out.

Regards
Hall

Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

[David Wright]

I think I misunderstood your previous posting where you said "In
the past I have been able to correct this" so I assumed you were
trying to do something that was possible in V3. In fact, you didn't
correct it, you just lived with it.

> Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use
> 1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about
> 40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that
> resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120.
> Other ideas?

AFAICT the virtual screen has always been the same size. It slides
around so that you can access all points on it. I don't think that
has changed between V3 and V4.

Viewport just sets the size of the virtual screen, with 0 0 copying
the values from the maximum resolution. Have you tried messing with
those values (e.g. setting them smaller than max res.); not that I'm
saying this works.

Cheers,

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Re: debian & poster

[Brian McGroarty]

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:34:19PM -0600, Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) wrote:
> In Allan Andersen's email, 07-02-2001:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Right now I have a poster with Corel Linux (better than nothing
> > I think) hanging on my door. But I don't use the Corel Linux
> > disto - so I thought if there were anyone out there who have a
> > good quality of the debian logo which could be used to make a 
> > poster.
> > 
> > I thought about these logo's but anything (almost) have
> > interest:
> > 
> > http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-25.jpg
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > http://www.debian.org/logos/banner_64.gif
> 
> I made a big debian poster using the open use logo GIMP file available
> from http://dusknet.dhs.org/~deek/debian/ -- it works quite nicely. 

I'd love to see these offered commercially - not all of us are lucky
enough to have poster printers. :)

Re: Mouse

[Hanno Böttcher]

Under Debian the command is named "gpmconfig".

Hanno
- Original Message -
From: Ales Jerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: Mouse


> Hello!
> I have one question.
> How to set mouse as serial device and not as PS/2 device?
> Because on the startup it shows that mouse is connected to PS/2, but it is
> not. So, where to change it?
> Bye,
> Ales Jerman
> from Slovenia
>
>
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Dual boot stable & testing on 1 hard disk?

[Ross Smith]

I'd like to set up the following on hda:

(potato)
/boot (hda1, 5M)
/   (hda6, 4G)

(woody)
/boot (hda5, 5M)
/   (hda7, 4G)

(shared)
/home   (hda8, 20G)
(swap)(hda9, 256M)

and dual-boot between them.

Is this possible?  If so, how?

Is this the smartest way to accomplish the objective of toying with woody
(pun intended) without buying a new HD, or running VMWare?

Thanks,

Ross

ISDN Documentation

[Hanno Böttcher]

Hi
 
I'm preparing for helping a friend with his ISDN 
Router. I'm looking for a Web Documentation for ISDN Drivers under Kernel 2.4.1 
and a howto for installing ISDN Dial Up under Debian, does anyone know an URL 
where I can find that?
 
Normaly I would look in the ISDN Documentation of 
my Potato Installation, but I'm at work so I have no Linux here, that's why I 
need a web Documentation I can print out.
 
 
Thanx for help
 
Hanno

2.4.1 kernel and Debian

[waynes]

Tonite I'm going to install a fresh Debian on my Computer and then Upgrade to 
the 2.4.1 kernel.  First of all, wish me luck.  Next, can anyone give me a 
status on some of the problems that I will be facing.  I've also heard that 
2.4.1 compiles better on unstable rather that stable.  Is this true?  Shoud I 
use unstable?  To give more info on the machine, it is a clone, AMD Thunderbird 
800mhz, 128 meg of ram, 7gig IDE HD, Sound Blaster sound card, Nvida TNT2 w/16 
meg, Voodoo2, 2 USB, 3C905B-TX nic.  I also plan on installing KDE 2.0, I've 
also heard of problems with KDE 2.0 and 2.4.1, can anyone comment on this?
Also any sugestions on the install would be greatly accepted, for instance, 
should I use the Sound Blaster modual or should I use ALSA?

Thanks for any help

Wayne

Re: 2.4.1 kernel and Debian

[San Segkhoonthod]

One problem I found is that ReiserFS option does not
appear in my woody.  I'm not sure whether it will
appear in unstable or it may be because of wrong
version of modutils and others.

san
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tonite I'm going to install a fresh Debian on my
> Computer and then Upgrade to the 2.4.1 kernel. 
> First of all, wish me luck.  Next, can anyone give
> me a status on some of the problems that I will be
> facing.  I've also heard that 2.4.1 compiles better
> on unstable rather that stable.  Is this true? 
> Shoud I use unstable?  To give more info on the
> machine, it is a clone, AMD Thunderbird 800mhz, 128
> meg of ram, 7gig IDE HD, Sound Blaster sound card,
> Nvida TNT2 w/16 meg, Voodoo2, 2 USB, 3C905B-TX nic. 
> I also plan on installing KDE 2.0, I've also heard
> of problems with KDE 2.0 and 2.4.1, can anyone
> comment on this?
> Also any sugestions on the install would be greatly
> accepted, for instance, should I use the Sound
> Blaster modual or should I use ALSA?
> 
> Thanks for any help
> 
> Wayne


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Antwort: 2.4.1 kernel and Debian

["Martin_Tanzer"]

Use testing. Testing provides xfree 4.0.2 and the modutils you need for 2.4.1.
KDE installes fine and runs without problems. The only problem I have: kwintv
refuses to show a tv-picture with xfree 4.0.2. For sound try the modules from
2.4.1. I have a similar system like you - the installation went smooth.

martin




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Thema:  2.4.1 kernel and Debian




Tonite I'm going to install a fresh Debian on my Computer and then Upgrade to
the 2.4.1 kernel.  First of all, wish me luck.  Next, can anyone give me a
status on some of the problems that I will be facing.  I've also heard that
2.4.1 compiles better on unstable rather that stable.  Is this true?  Shoud I
use unstable?  To give more info on the machine, it is a clone, AMD Thunderbird
800mhz, 128 meg of ram, 7gig IDE HD, Sound Blaster sound card, Nvida TNT2 w/16
meg, Voodoo2, 2 USB, 3C905B-TX nic.  I also plan on installing KDE 2.0, I've
also heard of problems with KDE 2.0 and 2.4.1, can anyone comment on this?
Also any sugestions on the install would be greatly accepted, for instance,
should I use the Sound Blaster modual or should I use ALSA?

Thanks for any help

Wayne


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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[virtanen]

Didn't find any clue yet, what to do.
Still nothing happens. 
For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
answering:

'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.' 
(Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.) 

>From dmesg:
___

hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=3737/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
scsi:  Detection failed (no card)
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support present -> Aborting.
megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999)
aec671x_detect:
3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:

___

/etc/modules is as follows: 

eepro100
3c59x
3c59x
parport
parport_pc
parport_probe
sg
ide-scsi

___

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote:

> > 1)
> > Has anyone succesfully used
> >
> > HP cd-writer 9100i (IDE)
> 
> I have the 9150i model... probably close enough.
> 
> 
> > xcdroast
> > Debian 2.2. (potato)
> >
> > combined to burn cds?
> >
> > My brand new machine has got the above combination
> > and I cannot setup xcdroast. xcdroast setup doesn't
> > seem to see the cdwriter as a writer at all.
> >
> > On the kernel there are installed ide-sci and sg modules
> > Any clue, where the problem is?
> > ___
> >
> > 2) How to use instead cdrecord program (if xcdroast
> > doesn't work) to copy cds?
> >
> > My burner is /dev/hdc and there is another cddriver
> > at /dev/hdd
> 
> Sounds like it's a scsi-emulation problem. There's likely nothing wrong
> with your cd-writer or the software you're using. xcdroast, I believe,
> uses cdrecord on the back-end, so if xcdroast doesn't work, cdrecord
> probably won't either.
> 
> This link, http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/faq-a8.html#2, may help you
> out.
> 
> Regards
> Hall

Fw: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[Hall Stevenson]

- Original Message -
From: "virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hall Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian User List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?


> Didn't find any clue yet, what to do.
> Still nothing happens.
> For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
> answering:
>
> 'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.'
> (Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.)
>
> From dmesg:
> ___
>
> hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=3737/255/63
> hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
> hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
> scsi:  Detection failed (no card)
> NCR53c406a: no available ports found
> sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
> Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
> IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support present -> Aborting.
> megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999)
> aec671x_detect:
> 3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.
> Partition check:
>
> ___
>
> /etc/modules is as follows:
>
> eepro100
> 3c59x
> 3c59x
> parport
> parport_pc
> parport_probe
> sg
> ide-scsi
>
> ___
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote:
>
> > > 1)
> > > Has anyone succesfully used
> > >
> > > HP cd-writer 9100i (IDE)
> >
> > I have the 9150i model... probably close enough.
> >
> >
> > > xcdroast
> > > Debian 2.2. (potato)
> > >
> > > combined to burn cds?
> > >
> > > My brand new machine has got the above combination
> > > and I cannot setup xcdroast. xcdroast setup doesn't
> > > seem to see the cdwriter as a writer at all.
> > >
> > > On the kernel there are installed ide-sci and sg modules
> > > Any clue, where the problem is?
> > > ___
> > >
> > > 2) How to use instead cdrecord program (if xcdroast
> > > doesn't work) to copy cds?
> > >
> > > My burner is /dev/hdc and there is another cddriver
> > > at /dev/hdd
> >
> > Sounds like it's a scsi-emulation problem. There's likely nothing
wrong
> > with your cd-writer or the software you're using. xcdroast, I
believe,
> > uses cdrecord on the back-end, so if xcdroast doesn't work, cdrecord
> > probably won't either.
> >
> > This link, http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/faq-a8.html#2, may help
you
> > out.
> >
> > Regards
> > Hall
>
>

AT&T Korn shell for Debina (potato) ?

[Stan Brown]

Where can I find this? Preferably a .deb

I't OpenSource now, isn't it?

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Re: ISDN Documentation

[garyjones]

At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:41:34 - , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hanno_B=F6ttcher?= <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>I'm looking for =
>a Web Documentation for ISDN Drivers under Kernel 2.4.1 and a howto for =
>installing ISDN Dial Up under Debian, does anyone know an URL where I =
>can find that?

http://www.isdn4linux.de ? :-)

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Re: Any experience with new NVIDIA drivers?

[Dietmar Schultz]

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 01:50:50AM -0600, Dr. Aldo Medina wrote:

[...]
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Chipset: "RIVA TNT"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[...]
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1600)
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1600x1200": 202.5 MHz, 93.8 kHz, 75.0 Hz
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Applying EDID constraints on remaining valid modes.
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual Screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200
> (++) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 100)
[...]

I remember, my brother has a Diamond card based on Riva-TNT chip. He
also uses a resloution of 1600x1200 at 32bpp, he don't use 3D things,
not even GL-screensavers. But I had tried that and it was painfully
slow. Switching back to 1024x786 and 16bpp and speed was fine. I
thought 3D on this high resolution and colour depth was to much to
handle for this card.

Btw, the screensavers running in a small window were fine, tuxracer in
a window of 640x480 was playable, too. About 16-20 fps, iirc. The
larger the tuxracer window was, the poorer the speed was.

Me, having a Geforce2, don't see such problems. Unless I turn full
screen antialiasing on...

-- 
Bye,
Dietmar

Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[Hall Stevenson]

> Didn't find any clue yet, what to do.
> Still nothing happens.
> For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
> answering:
>
> 'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.'

That's your problem ^^^

> (Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.)

You're telling them to be loaded, but they aren't...


> From dmesg:
> ___
>
> hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=3737/255/63
> hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
> hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
> scsi:  Detection failed (no card)
> NCR53c406a: no available ports found
> sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
> Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
> IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support present -> Aborting.
> megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999)
> aec671x_detect:
> 3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.
> Partition check:

See, no SCSI emulation or SCSI cd-rom devices mentioned.

Run "cdrecord -scanbus" and post it's output here.

> /etc/modules is as follows:
>

> sg
> ide-scsi

I *think* you need to add an "append" line to your /etc/lilo.conf file.
You need to tell the kernel  that your /dev/hdc device is a "scsi"
device now and let the scsi-emulation module control. This link,
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1, explains it
more. I have scsi emulation compiled directly into my kernel so I don't
need this setting.

Regards
Hall

X4 problems

[Tiarnan O'Corrain]

Hello all,
I am having problems with XFree86 4, downloaded
as part of a dist-upgrade from potato to woody.

When I try to start the X server with 'startx'
the server spits that it cannot stat /etc/X11/X
and aborts with signal 2.

Neither xf86cfg nor XFree86 -configure work: they
both give me a wavy grey screen with an immoveable
mouse cursor at the centre.

What am I not doing?

Help much appreciated

Tiarnan

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Re: 2.4.1 kernel and Debian

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

Hi,

I'm running unstable/testing (don't really know howmuch of which, I've
some how gotten really confused with branch naming lately..)

2.4.1 is working well for me for the past 2 weeks or so.  One bug I've
run into is with my cs4232 sound card.  The module won't load on it's
own, using isapnp (which I didn't use previously, but at that time I
compiled in sound support) the module will try and load and cause a
system lockup.  Probably something I'm doing wrong.  Sound's not very
important to me, so I've not fully explored why this is happening.

reiserfs and devfs are functioning properly, though if you go in for
devfs make damned sure you know what you're ding as it's very easy to
get a nonbootable system if you don't have user space configured
properly.

I've not tried 2.4.1 on stable as I don't consider it well enough
tested for a production environment yet, though it seems good so far.

my $0.02,
-Jon

Re: XF86v4: mouse and fonts

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:28:44AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> I've upgraded my laptop from stable to testing.  In the process, I seem
> to have versioned up to XFree86v4.  Currently:
> 
>   - X display managers don't allow a session to start (see attached
> error output).  This is annoying, but not a biggie.  startx works
> fine.  But I have been beating my head against the wall trying to
> figure out what wdm's startup sequence is.

Check the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config.  In it there is a line which
should read

  allowed_users=console

but by default reads

  allowed_users=root

 
>   - Mouse:  how do you configure three-button emulation for a two-button
> touchpad with V4?  This is driving me nuts.

dunno ... are you using dexter to configure?
 
>   - Fonts.  I've got truetype fonts and had been using xfstt.
> Currently, if I add the line
> 
>   xset fp+ unix/:7101
> 
> ...to my /etc/X11/Xsession or ~/.xinitrc file, X fails to launch any
> rxvts and crashes when I attempt to launch them manually after a
> couple of attempts.

Same here ... apparently X4 supports truetype out of the box so xfstt
isn't needed.  I haven't had time to play with this yet but there were
at least two threads about this topic last week.  I'll send you the
messages if you need them.

Good luck,

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Re: AT&T Korn shell for Debina (potato) ?

[Moritz Schulte]

There's a public domain version of the Korn shell packaged as 'pdksh'.

moritz
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Re: Infinite sevens: MBR problems

[Peter Howell]

At 03:09 PM 2/6/01 -0800, Joey Hess wrote:

Peter Howell wrote:
> MBR
>
> L 07  07  07  07  07 .

>From lilo's manual:


Disk error codes
- - - - - - - -

If the BIOS signals an error when LILO is trying to load a boot image, the
respective error code is displayed. The following BIOS error codes are
known:

...

   0x07   "Invalid initialization". The BIOS failed to properly initialize
the disk controller. You should control the BIOS setup parameters. A
warm boot might help too.


Now I'm a little confused.  I ruled out BIOS problems because MBR 
was coming up.  Presumably, the system is finding the drive and running the 
MBR program on the MBR.  Is MBR synonymous with the part of LILO put in the 
MBR?  Could the BIOS successfully find the MBR, but then fail to find the 
drive on subsiquent redirection?


On a side note, I went into the bios and altered the boot 
order.  Now when I boot, it just prints:


LI

and then stops.  From what I've been able to find, this has to do 
with problems in the mapping of the drive.   I edited /etc/lilo.conf and 
commented out the LBA switch, since this is only a 260MB drive.   I then 
ran lilo and rebooted.  Unfortunately, that didn't fix it.


Whenever I run lilo I get the warning that hdc is not the first 
drive.  Could this be my problem?  The BIOS allows me to boot off it in DOS.


Peter

Re: AT&T Korn shell for Debina (potato) ?

[Dave Sherohman]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 06:15:42PM +0100, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> There's a public domain version of the Korn shell packaged as 'pdksh'.

I suspect that, like me, the person who originally asked about the AT&T ksh
has just read the slashdot interview with David Korn.  In it, Dr. Korn
repeatedly points out that pdksh is based on ksh88 and, therefore, lacks a
number of the advaced features (including what he claims to be a perl-level
scripting capability) which are present in ksh93.

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Lilo problems after a debian installation...

[Rogelio E. Castillo Haro,,,]

Hi,
I've two disks
Primary master (hda) with Debian, just installed las weekend
Secondary master (hdc) with Win98 already installed and working...(sic)
Well I install Debian on my primary disk and tell lilo to install at the 
MBR (unsafe I know)

Now when I select to boot win98 it appears:
Loading win
L?
And stays there...so what can I do to repair the boot loader and start 
Windows?

I read the lilo doc but isn't appear this exactly message...

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Re: Infinite sevens: MBR problems

[brian moore]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:18:59PM -0500, Peter Howell wrote:
>  On a side note, I went into the bios and altered the boot 
> order.  Now when I boot, it just prints:
> 
> LI
> 
>  and then stops.  From what I've been able to find, this has to do 
> with problems in the mapping of the drive.   I edited /etc/lilo.conf and 
> commented out the LBA switch, since this is only a 260MB drive.   I then 
> ran lilo and rebooted.  Unfortunately, that didn't fix it.
> 
> Whenever I run lilo I get the warning that hdc is not the first 
> drive.  Could this be my problem?  The BIOS allows me to boot off it
> in DOS.

Yes.  That very well could be the problem.

LILO complains about the same thing for me on one of my home machines
(which has a nice fast SCSI for 'real' stuff and huge IDE drives for
mp3's and other piggy stuff where size matters more than speed... :)).
The way SCSI inserts itself into the boot chain annoys LILO (and hurts
my head anyway... it's REALLY bizarre trying to convince the bios to
boot a bootable CD on a scsi drive...)

What happens on my home system if I ignore the warnings is that the BIOS
will gladly load the LILO mbr off the hard drive, but when that mbr
tries to read the kernel, it ends up looking at the IDE drive... which
doesn't have it.

Anyway, there are some little-used options in LILO to get around this
and to convince the BIOS what to do.  Look specifically at the 'disk='
section of the lilo.conf man page.  You'll probably need to convince
LILO of the actual ordering of devices by the BIOS.

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Network Printer

[Francois Fayard]

Hi,

I want to configure my potato with some network printers.
My computer is hooked on the network through dhcp
Do you know if there is a tool under Potato to configure
the printers (Something in ncources or even in plain text) ?

Thanks
Francois

Re: mouse -> clicks heard on speaker

[Rob VanFleet]

Another thing to try is muting your cd sound channel.  I've noticed that
most sound interference is usually caused byt the oftentimes poorly
shielded cable that runs from the sound card to the cdrom.

-Rob

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 10:05:28PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is interesting since I have a box on my lan that has
> the same exact thing. Very irritating I agree! I seen a suggestion
> that you move the card further from the cpu, I may just try that 
> and see if it helps. BTW, this box (p166) is dualboot win98/debian
> testing and the noise is on both OS's! So, maybe when the new memory
> arrives, I'll just move the card in the same time.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> On Tuesday 06 February 2001 16:52, will trillich wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 05:26:50PM -0600, ktb wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 03:26:40PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > whenever i move my mouse -- for every single pixel (or every
> > > > mouse pointer redraw) -- i hear a small 'click' through my
> > > > speakers. this happens on both console (alt-ctl-f[1-6]) and in X
> > > > displays...
> > > >
> > > > any ideas? what further information could i provide?
> > > > 
> > >
> > > Are you using a window manager that supports sounds for various
> > > actions?  Does the sound persist when you change to a different window
> > > manager such as fvwm?  Since it happens in console it probably doesn't
> > > matter but that is what popped into my head.  Does it happen with all
> > > buttons on your mouse?  Does shutting off the bell with "xset" or
> > > "set bell-style none" have any effect?  Just a few thoughts...
> >
> > i'm pretty sure the window manageris irrelevant, as i can switch
> > to a console (ctl-alt-f2) and via the gpm cursor gadget, i still
> > get the click (more like a buzz when moving the mouse over a long
> > distance). i can wait until the screen saver takes over on X, and
> > the console mouse-move 'buzz' is still there.
> >
> > but in case it matters i'm using kde on potato.
> > in the control center (for preferences) there's a "sounds" area
> > with three subitems: midi, sound server, system bell. i can test
> > the system bell which seems to work properly; plus, when kde
> > starts or shuts down i get the fancy-pants music/chord, too.
> >
> > there's no 'clang when closing a window' or 'boing on maximize'
> > sound setup (from what i can tell). plus, the mouse-move
> > buzz/click affects the consoles, as well.
> >
> > but if i'm playing an audio cd, it's irritating to have the mouse
> > buzz interfere with taste of honey, lujon or concerto in f...
> > got s'more ideas why moving the mouse one pixel would 'tick' at
> > my speakers? electromagnetic induction? anything?
> >
> > --
> >
> > by the way... how do you change from kde to another window
> > manager?
> 
> -- 
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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[virtanen]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote:

> > Didn't find any clue yet, what to do.
> > Still nothing happens.
> > For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
> > answering:
> >
> > 'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.'
> 
> That's your problem ^^^
> 
> > (Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.)
> 
> You're telling them to be loaded, but they aren't...
> 
> 
> See, no SCSI emulation or SCSI cd-rom devices mentioned.
> 
> Run "cdrecord -scanbus" and post it's output here.

It is here:

fr420:/etc# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are
root.
fr420:/etc#



> 
> I *think* you need to add an "append" line to your /etc/lilo.conf file.
> You need to tell the kernel  that your /dev/hdc device is a "scsi"
> device now and let the scsi-emulation module control. This link,
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1, explains it
> more. I have scsi emulation compiled directly into my kernel so I don't
> need this setting.

I haven't looked at above yet. 


> 
> Regards
> Hall

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RE: Infinite sevens: MBR problems

[Holp, John Mr.]

My documentation indicates that if you see LI at the prompt and then the
process hangs, the second stage boot loader was loaded properly but can't be
executed.  

Try adding the word "linear" to the global portion of the /etc/lilo.conf
file. 

Re-run LILO -->  /sbin/lilo 

Then reboot


This is interesting, let us know what works

John



-Original Message-
From: brian moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:38 PM
To: Debian-User@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Infinite sevens: MBR problems


On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:18:59PM -0500, Peter Howell wrote:
>  On a side note, I went into the bios and altered the boot 
> order.  Now when I boot, it just prints:
> 
> LI
> 
>  and then stops.  From what I've been able to find, this has to do

> with problems in the mapping of the drive.   I edited /etc/lilo.conf and 
> commented out the LBA switch, since this is only a 260MB drive.   I then 
> ran lilo and rebooted.  Unfortunately, that didn't fix it.
> 
> Whenever I run lilo I get the warning that hdc is not the first 
> drive.  Could this be my problem?  The BIOS allows me to boot off it
> in DOS.

Yes.  That very well could be the problem.

LILO complains about the same thing for me on one of my home machines
(which has a nice fast SCSI for 'real' stuff and huge IDE drives for
mp3's and other piggy stuff where size matters more than speed... :)).
The way SCSI inserts itself into the boot chain annoys LILO (and hurts
my head anyway... it's REALLY bizarre trying to convince the bios to
boot a bootable CD on a scsi drive...)

What happens on my home system if I ignore the warnings is that the BIOS
will gladly load the LILO mbr off the hard drive, but when that mbr
tries to read the kernel, it ends up looking at the IDE drive... which
doesn't have it.

Anyway, there are some little-used options in LILO to get around this
and to convince the BIOS what to do.  Look specifically at the 'disk='
section of the lilo.conf man page.  You'll probably need to convince
LILO of the actual ordering of devices by the BIOS.

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Re: postgresql 7.0.3 -- but NO plperl ?

[will trillich]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 10:09:48PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> >
> > well that makes a difference... i'm sure :(
> 
> sorry, brain fart.
> 
> > % locate plperl
> > /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl
> > /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl/README
> 
> $ dpkg -S plperl.so
> postgresql: /usr/lib/postgresql/lib/plperl.so
> $ dpkg -l postgresql
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> |
> Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
> uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name   Version  Description
> +++-==--==
> ii  postgresql 7.0.3-4  Object-relational SQL database

aha. you're on 7.0.3-4.

i'm using potato, so i had to go to samfundet.no/~tfheen for
my sources.list to get a postgresql with embedded perl...

% dpkg -l postgres\*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   Description
+++-=-=-=
un  postgres95(no description available)
un  postgres95-dev(no description available)
ii  postgresql7.0.3-0potato1Object-relational SQL
database, descended from POSTGRES.
ii  postgresql-client 7.0.3-0potato1Front-end programs for PostgreSQL
ii  postgresql-contrib7.0.3-0potato1Additional facilities for PostgreSQL
ii  postgresql-dev7.0.3-0potato1Header files for libpq
(postgresql library)
ii  postgresql-doc7.0.3-0potato1Documentation for the
PostgreSQL database.
ii  postgresql-pl 7.0.3-0potato1A procedural language for PostgreSQL
in  postgresql-slink  (no description available)

% dpkg -S plperl
postgresql-doc: /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl/README
postgresql-doc: /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl

so apparently there's no plperl.so in the 7.0.3-0potato1 version?
i hafta wait a bit, i guess... (i'm trying to connect right now,
and several mirrors seem to be down or constipated at the moment)

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Re: Urgent : Linux Certification

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Joris Lambrecht (on Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:39:57PM +0100):
> What organistation should i look to for such courses ? I'm currently looking 
> at
> www.lpi.org but seem to remember there's a lot of criticism about this ?

mh. well, i am affiliated with lpi so i can't argue for them, but i
don't recall critcism. sure, lpi probably isn't renowned as much as
the RHCE, but who would want to use redhat anyway? for debian, lpi
seems to me to be clearly the cert of choice.

martin

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network problem

[Chris Parker]

Stats: running 2.2.12 on p133 w/48ram
Kingston pci model kne100tx using tulip module
on cablemodem surfboard4100
 
I can ping self but when i ping anywhere else it says that the 
network is unreachable.  Get siocaddr invalid.  How to fix so I can 
get online?  It also says when running lynx host is unreachable./can't find 
host or no dns?
Thanks in advance to anyone that helps.
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XFree 4.0 and MS Natural Keyboard--problem

[Jeff Beaird]

Just upgraded from potato to woody, with X upgrade to 4.0 included, and
now my MS Natural keyboard not working correctly.

I've set "XkbModel" as "microsoft" in XF86Config-4, but /var/log/XFree86
tells me "Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"

Thanks for your help!
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Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

[judd]

On  7 Feb, John Foster wrote:
> Damon Muller wrote:
>> While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself
>> using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your
>> problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix.
>> 
>> Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth
>> that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth'
>> in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of
>> the line, and Bob's your uncle.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> damon
> 
> Thanks. I already did that. I'm a perfectionist and prefer to use
> 1024x768 but the virtual screen is larger than the viewing area by about
> 40%. In 1280x1024 they match but my eyesight is too poor for that
> resolution without oversizing everything ...fonts @48, icons @ 120x120.
> Other ideas?

 The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution 
for the display (I think).  In the display section add the line:

 Virtual 1024 768
 
You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however.  See
man XF86Config.

-Chris


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Antwort: Re: Urgent : Linux Certification

["Martin_Tanzer"]

I passed the available LPI tests. Without practice the tests are *very* tricky
and difficoult - if you have practice and are experianced read the objectives
and the related howtos and you will pass.
martin




MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07.02.2001 19:05:44

An: Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kopie:  "'debian-user@lists.debian.org'" 
(Blindkopie: Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE)
Blindkopie:Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE
Thema:  Re: Urgent : Linux Certification




also sprach Joris Lambrecht (on Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:39:57PM +0100):
> What organistation should i look to for such courses ? I'm currently looking
at
> www.lpi.org but seem to remember there's a lot of criticism about this ?

mh. well, i am affiliated with lpi so i can't argue for them, but i
don't recall critcism. sure, lpi probably isn't renowned as much as
the RHCE, but who would want to use redhat anyway? for debian, lpi
seems to me to be clearly the cert of choice.

martin

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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[mike polniak]

virtanen wrote:
> Didn't find any clue yet, what to do.
> Still nothing happens. 
> For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
> answering:
> 
> 'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.' 
> (Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.) 
> 
> >From dmesg:
> ___
> 
> hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
> 
> /etc/modules is as follows: 
> 
> eepro100
> 3c59x
> 3c59x
> parport
> parport_pc
> parport_probe
> sg
> ide-scsi

Make sure you also have module sr_mod (for scsi cdrom) and that scsi
support is set with CONGIG_SCSI.
Then to make sure the scsi modules are loaded in the right order and 
see your CD-RW add the following in /etc/modutils/aliases

options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore hdc
alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd   before ide-scsi

Then run update-modules that's all. Then remove sg and ide-scsi from
/etc/modules.Then as root run cdrecord -scanbus to see the CD-RW as a scsi
device.

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Re: Lilo problems after a debian installation...

[Hall Stevenson]

> Primary master (hda) with Debian, just installed las weekend
> Secondary master (hdc) with Win98 already installed and
working...(sic)
> Well I install Debian on my primary disk and tell lilo to install at
the
> MBR (unsafe I know)
> Now when I select to boot win98 it appears:
> Loading win
> L?
> And stays there...so what can I do to repair the boot loader and start
> Windows?
> I read the lilo doc but isn't appear this exactly message...

Post your /etc/lilo.conf file.

I don't think anything's wrong with lilo other than it possibly pointing
to the wrong place for Windows. Lilo *is* telling Windows to load from
the output you posted.

Regards
Hall

Memory Problems on Compaq Prosignia w/Potato

[Ian Smith]

Hi,

I've just recently installed Potato on a Compaq Prosignia 300 
Server with 64M of RAM.  Checking free, however, shows only 
13M.  The Bios reports the correct amount on startup, and the 
previous OS (NT) also had no problems with the memory.  I tried 
adding an append="mem=64M" line to Lilo.conf, but that has not 
helped.  I thought that the kernel was supposed to autodetect up to 
64M anyway.  Should I just do a clean reinstall, or does anyone 
have an idea of how to fix this?

thanks,

-Ian
Ian W. Smith
Systems Engineer
Systems Integration Group
Fourth Phase New Jersey
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North Bergen, NJ 07047
(201) 758-4315
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Perl OracleDBD for Debian?

[Stan Brown]

Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of Perl's OracleDBD for a Potato
machine?

I have installed the *1 DB, and it works finr. I have installed teh ProC
package, and have yet to even get the sample files to compile (seem to be
mising some standard headers?) So I figure the odds of getting OracleDBD to
compile on it ate slim, and none.


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/dev/ttyS0 permissions changing...

[Hugo van der Merwe]

Hello,

Something on my machine is periodically changing /dev/ttyS0's
permissions to 640, whereas it needs to be 660 to use the modem... I
have now switched back to using ttyS1, but on laptops with only one
serial port this is not an option, so I'm still wondering what it is
that does this. I also want to know out of pure interest. Any ideas?

There's nothing obvious (at least to me at this point in time) in
cron.{d,daily,weekly,monthly}... I suppose I should try and find out 
exactly when this happens, but that will take a couple of days... as it
doesn't happen daily.

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe

Searching for a library...

[jerome Moliere]

Hi all Debian gurus,
I'm searching for a library required for running the java program, it
searches the libstdc++.so , so I tried to find this file in the
debian packages web page...
no success...
Is there a way using apt-get to search the deb package containg a given
file name ? I think so but I'm too young with Debian to know how to do
this...

Bonus question : what are the main libs necessary for running the Java
tarball from Sun ?

Thanks
Cheers
Jerome
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majordomo+exim

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all,
I have a debian slink system with smail and majordomo. Now I installed a
new potato system with exim and majordomo and followed some instructions of
both working.
But majordomo is still not working. See the log:

2001-02-07 16:17:49 14QZA4-0002sw-00 == |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper
archive2.pl -a -m -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/mylist.archive
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=majordomo_aliases defer (-31):
pipe_transport unset in majordomo_aliases driver

Any help is apreciated.
Thanks, PH

Packages on ftp disappearing?

[Sebastiaan]

Hi,

last weekend, I was able to download pptp source from woody. Today I
discovered that it does not longer exists there
(dists/woody/main/source/net).

The only place where I could find it was in the 'pool' directory on
ftp.debian.org.

Why does this happen? Is this package upgrading or something? How can I
link things in a document when packages disappear?

Thanks,
Sebastiaan

Re: Memory Problems on Compaq Prosignia w/Potato

[ktb]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 01:33:17PM -0500, Ian Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just recently installed Potato on a Compaq Prosignia 300 
> Server with 64M of RAM.  Checking free, however, shows only 
> 13M.  The Bios reports the correct amount on startup, and the 
> previous OS (NT) also had no problems with the memory.  I tried 
> adding an append="mem=64M" line to Lilo.conf, but that has not 
> helped.  I thought that the kernel was supposed to autodetect up to 
> 64M anyway.  Should I just do a clean reinstall, or does anyone 
> have an idea of how to fix this?
> 

The append line should work.  Just to make sure did you run lilo after
making the changes in /etc/lilo.conf?  That is the only thing I can
think of.  What does dmesg or /proc/meminfo say in terms of memory?
Maybe there is some possibility of "free" not reporting correctly?   
hth,
kent

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RE: Packages on ftp disappearing?

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 07-Feb-2001 Sebastiaan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> last weekend, I was able to download pptp source from woody. Today I
> discovered that it does not longer exists there
> (dists/woody/main/source/net).
> 
> The only place where I could find it was in the 'pool' directory on
> ftp.debian.org.
> 
> Why does this happen? Is this package upgrading or something? How can I
> link things in a document when packages disappear?
> 

all packages post-potato live in pools.  The old directory structure exists
solely becuase long standing debian practice and software requires it.  To find
a package:

a) look in the Packages.gz for the full path

or 

b) go to pools/ and look alphabetically.

Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[virtanen]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, mike polniak wrote:

> > For most of the time 'xcdroast' command  is
> > answering:
> > 
> > 'No Generic SCSI-Support has been detected.' 
> > (Anyway there are the modules sg and ide-sci emulation installed.) 
> > 
> > >From dmesg:
> > ___
> > 
> > hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CDROM drive
> > hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
> > 
> > /etc/modules is as follows: 
> > 
> > eepro100
> > 3c59x
> > 3c59x
> > parport
> > parport_pc
> > parport_probe
> > sg
> > ide-scsi
>   
>   Make sure you also have module sr_mod (for scsi cdrom) and that scsi
> support is set with CONGIG_SCSI.

Where is that module?

If I'll run 'modconf' I cannot see that module. 

>   Then to make sure the scsi modules are loaded in the right order and 

What is the right order?

> see your CD-RW add the following in /etc/modutils/aliases
> 
> options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore hdc
> alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0
> pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg
> pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod
> pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd   before ide-scsi

There is nothing like that on /etc/modutils/aliases
Should I try writing it with hand?


> 
>   Then run update-modules that's all. Then remove sg and ide-scsi from
> /etc/modules.Then as root run cdrecord -scanbus to see the CD-RW as a scsi
> device.

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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions changing...

[David Wright]

Quoting Hugo van der Merwe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Something on my machine is periodically changing /dev/ttyS0's
> permissions to 640, whereas it needs to be 660 to use the modem... I
> have now switched back to using ttyS1, but on laptops with only one
> serial port this is not an option, so I'm still wondering what it is
> that does this. I also want to know out of pure interest. Any ideas?

Are you using wvdial? It seems to require g+w permission (which is
wrong) and it kills pppd in such a way as to prevent it from
resetting the serial port permissions. (pppd has to stop members
of the dialout group being able to snoop while pppd is running.)

Why not try pppconfig, pon and poff...

Cheers,

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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

[virtanen]

> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, mike polniak wrote:
> > Make sure you also have module sr_mod (for scsi cdrom) and that scsi
> > support is set with CONGIG_SCSI.
> 
> Where is that module?
> 
> If I'll run 'modconf' I cannot see that module. 
> 
> > Then to make sure the scsi modules are loaded in the right order and 
> 
> What is the right order?
> 
> > see your CD-RW add the following in /etc/modutils/aliases
> > 
> > options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore hdc
> > alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0
> > pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg
> > pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod
> > pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd   before ide-scsi
> 
> There is nothing like that on /etc/modutils/aliases
> Should I try writing it with hand?

I wrote it there.
No difference. 

Ahvirtane 

Re: postgresql 7.0.3 -- but NO plperl ?

[Oliver Elphick]

will trillich wrote:
  >> ||/ Name   Version  Description
  >> +++-==--==
  >> ii  postgresql 7.0.3-4  Object-relational SQL database
  >
  >aha. you're on 7.0.3-4.
  >
  >i'm using potato, so i had to go to samfundet.no/~tfheen for
  >my sources.list to get a postgresql with embedded perl...
 ...
  >% dpkg -S plperl
  >postgresql-doc: /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl/README
  >postgresql-doc: /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/src/pl/plperl
  >
  >so apparently there's no plperl.so in the 7.0.3-0potato1 version?
  >i hafta wait a bit, i guess... (i'm trying to connect right now,
  >and several mirrors seem to be down or constipated at the moment)

It's probably quickest for you to build from source.

Get the source from unstable and build it on potato - there should be
no problems, if you check the Build-dependencies before you start.

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Re: Memory Problems on Compaq Prosignia w/Potato

[brian moore]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 01:33:17PM -0500, Ian Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just recently installed Potato on a Compaq Prosignia 300 
> Server with 64M of RAM.  Checking free, however, shows only 
> 13M.  The Bios reports the correct amount on startup, and the 
> previous OS (NT) also had no problems with the memory.  I tried 
> adding an append="mem=64M" line to Lilo.conf, but that has not 
> helped.  I thought that the kernel was supposed to autodetect up to 
> 64M anyway.  Should I just do a clean reinstall, or does anyone 
> have an idea of how to fix this?

Check your BIOS configuration for something like 'Memory hole at 15M' or
similar.  This was needed for some old ISA cards that needed to fit
their memory mapped addresses in without conflicting with system memory.
It's highly unlikely you actually have such cards in your system, so you
should disable that setting.

That, of course, assumes that what you're taking about on 'free' is the
'Mem: total' value.   That should be equal to the size of the kernel +
ram in the system.  If you're taking about 'Mem: free', well, that
depends entirely on what you've been running lately and will usually
work its way down to only a few megs regardless of how much RAM you
have.

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Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux

[Ekkehard Kraemer]

Anthony Campbell wrote:

> Thank you; next question, where do you find it? Is there a .deb file
> available?

http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html, and yes, there are .deb's.

win98 -> Potato -> Internet

[Paul Clark]

I have a network of 2 potato boxen and 1 Win 98.

Can somebody please tell me the name of the service or package I need on Potato 
to enable Win98 computers and perhaps other potato's to connect to the internet 
via one modem on a potato box?

Thanks

Paul Clark 

Re: Gnome 1.2 and potato

[robhr]

> Rob Rati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Are there Gnome 1.2 packages available for potato anywhere?
>
> Yes, Ximian (http://www.ximian.com/) is packaging GNOME for several
> GNU/Linux distributions, including Debian Potato. If you want to
give
> it a try, add the following line to you /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable
main
>
> and do apt-get update && apt-get install task-helix-core (which
> installs the core elements of the Ximian GNOME
> desktop). task-helix-gnome will install much more...
>
>   moritz
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What if I have the debian gnome 1.0 packages installed already?  Will
the Ximian packages recognize that and upgrade them accordingly?  Or
will I have to uninstall 1.0 and install Ximian's 1.2?

Rob

alsaplayer

[Christopher Mosley]

There seems to be no documentation for alsaplayer.
I understand there are less analog <-> digital
conversions to play a CD. However, whatever the
gain in fidelity, it is lost as soon as you interact 
with the program. After opening a window with a mouse
click the sound becomes and remains horrible. This
is for the plain alsaplayer for /dev/dsp that came 
with spud 2.2rev2. Any information on this appreciated.

 
Thank you

RE: Urgent : Linux Certification

[Holp, John Mr.]

Joris,

I am currently studying for the Linux Professional Institute (LPI)
102 "final" exam.  The exams are TOUGH but I like their idea/concept.  LPI
is actually distribution independent for most areas.  They accomplish this
by retreating to the least common denominator - as an example to add a new
user within the LPI philosophy use;

useradd

The reason for this technique is that all Linux distributions
understand useradd.  Now you can go anywhere and function within any Linux
distribution.  My study references go on to say you can edit the /etc/passwd
file and manually enter a new user - wow, now we are down in the weeds.

Not a bad idea at all though, and the things behind the scene you
must remember, create the users home directory - don't forget to set the
ownership to the new user, don't forget to set the password, etc., etc.,
means you understand the interworkings that GUI's articulate for you.  

Now of course when you get to a production environment go ahead and
use the distribution's GUI if they have one.  They are intuitively pleasing
but you have a better understanding having done it manually when first
starting out.  If you learned to drive on a manual shift car, then going to
an automatic is EASY -- the reverse is NOT true.

Note that the 102 exam test on both rpm and (dpkg, dselect, apt,
apt-get).  rpm maps to Red Hat but those last four (4) things map to the
Debian distribution so being an LPI certified person draws you into the
Debian camp.  I run Red Hat 6.2 at my private residence and Debina 2.2.17
here in my office by simply rotating my body 60 degrees to the left to a
Debian dedicate Micron Pentium III machine.  

It is most interesting to contrast the distributions, in Debian it
is /etc/modules.conf where as in Red Hat it is /etc/conf.modules - they both
do the same thing just a different naming convention.  

In a former position I found myself in a Sun Microsystems, Solaris
environment and through a combination of work and study I became a Sun
Microsystems, Solaris 7, Certified Systems Administrator.  This means one
knows Sun's Admin Tool and Soltis Disk Suite, both slick GUI's proprietary
to Sun.

On my next assignment I was buried in a Hewlett Packard, HP-UX
environment, now those slick Sun GUI's don't work there - rather it is
Systems Administration Manager (SAM) in HP-UX parlances.  So I went on to
become a Hewlett Packard, HP-UX, 11.x Certified Systems Administrator too.

I thought about the Red Hat Linux certification and it is reported
to be good.  --- BUT I think LPI has an outstanding idea (a better
mousetrap) as there are so many Linux distributions - I have an old list
that shows 83 flavors of Linux!!  An LPI person can hit the ground within
any Linux distribution and be productive on day one.

John D. Holp

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From: MaD dUCK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Joris Lambrecht
Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: Urgent : Linux Certification


also sprach Joris Lambrecht (on Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:39:57PM +0100):
> What organistation should i look to for such courses ? I'm currently
looking at
> www.lpi.org but seem to remember there's a lot of criticism about this ?

mh. well, i am affiliated with lpi so i can't argue for them, but i
don't recall critcism. sure, lpi probably isn't renowned as much as
the RHCE, but who would want to use redhat anyway? for debian, lpi
seems to me to be clearly the cert of choice.

martin

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RE: debian & poster

[Brooks R. Robinson]

I've asked before, and I'll ask again...  What font is used for the word
'debian'?  Anyone?  Anyone?

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:34 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: debian & poster
>
>
> In Allan Andersen's email, 07-02-2001:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Right now I have a poster with Corel Linux (better than nothing
> > I think) hanging on my door. But I don't use the Corel Linux
> > disto - so I thought if there were anyone out there who have a
> > good quality of the debian logo which could be used to make a
> > poster.
> >
> > I thought about these logo's but anything (almost) have
> > interest:
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-25.jpg
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/logos/banner_64.gif
> >
> > Best regards
> > Allan
>
> I made a big debian poster using the open use logo GIMP file available
> from http://dusknet.dhs.org/~deek/debian/ -- it works quite nicely.
>
> Michael Janssen
>

Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions changing...

[Bob Hilliard]

Hugo van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Something on my machine is periodically changing /dev/ttyS0's
> permissions to 640, whereas it needs to be 660 to use the modem

 ppp changes the permissions to 640 on the device it is using, and
restores them when it exits.  If it exits abnormally (crash, kill -9,
etc) the permissions are not restored.  I have suspected that it does
not always restore them on a normal exit, but haven't been able to
prove that to my satisfaction.

Bob
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Re: 2.4.1 kernel and Debian

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:45:59AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tonite I'm going to install a fresh Debian on my Computer and then Upgrade to 
> the 2.4.1 kernel.  First of all, wish me luck.  Next, can anyone give me a 
> status on some of the problems that I will be facing.  I've also heard that 
> 2.4.1 compiles better on unstable rather that stable.  Is this true?  Shoud I 
> use unstable?  To give more info on the machine, it is a clone, AMD 
> Thunderbird 800mhz, 128 meg of ram, 7gig IDE HD, Sound Blaster sound card, 
> Nvida TNT2 w/16 meg, Voodoo2, 2 USB, 3C905B-TX nic.  I also plan on 
> installing KDE 2.0, I've also heard of problems with KDE 2.0 and 2.4.1, can 
> anyone comment on this?
> Also any sugestions on the install would be greatly accepted, for instance, 
> should I use the Sound Blaster modual or should I use ALSA?

I am running 3 potato systems with 2.4.x and have no problems.  I'm also
running an unstable system with 2.4.1.  Again, no problems.  In order to
run 2.4.x on stable you'll need to upgrade your modutils package.  I've
made an upgraded modutils package available at
http://locust.lcs.mit.edu/~noahm/modutils.

KDE 2.0 does not depend on any kernel stuff, and works just fine with
2.4.x.  I have it installed on my unstable system and it works just
fine.

I can't comment on the kernel driver for your sound card.

noah
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Re: How to delete a file called "-gzip"?

[kmself]

on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:29:39PM +0100, Kerstin Hoef-Emden ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this is a completely stupid thing I did. I wanted to make a zipped tar
> archive of my complete user home account and write it to MOD. 
> 
> Unfortunately I used the following line:
> 
> tar -cvvf -gzip /mod/name-of-archive folder-name
> 
> Now my home-partition is 100 % full and I don´t know how to delete that
> -gzip file! :-(
> Gee, why doesn´t tar realize that things starting with "-" are no file
> names.
> 
> I tried
> rm "-gzip" 
> rm ´-gzip´
> rm \-gzip
> 
> None of these worked.
> 
> What is the trick? (There must be one ...)

As noted, '--' is the argument to many shell commands to tell them to
stop parsing options and start treating things as inputs.  This works in
this case, though for other unprintables, you're still stuck.

Best solution I've found for the general problem is to go directly to
inodes:

$ ls -i | grep  # list files with inode
$ find . -inum  -e do something \;

This is one of many tricks in the O'Reilly _UNIX Power Tools_ book.

Cheers.

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