Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who
to hide the args of your command, there are several tricks
aside from the 'overhaul the kernel' approach--
1) write a script to do the deed & supply the args, and call it
as your command; then your command-line will only be the script name.
set (restrict) permissions as needed on the script file.
2) use variables (not very secure) or aliases (even less secure):
% set cmd='mysql -umyself -ptryagain db'
...
% $cmd
3) if the command has a dotfile option (as in ~/.mysqlrc) then put
your sensitive stuff there and restrict privileges on that file.
... there are probably other ways as well, each with its own
pitfalls. tinker around, scan the manpages, see what you come
up with.
problem is, linux/unix was designed with information sharing--not
information barricaded in a subterranean hermetically-sealed vault--as
a primary goal. unfortunately it's a bit against our nature, just
yet, to be open as linux is. ("*my* user list! mine! mine!")
maybe someday...
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Their is five errers in this sentance.
PCI 128...
Okay, so I continue to try to get my PCI128 working. I ran make menuconfig (kernel 2.2.14) and this time, i checked OSS. And then a lot of new options appeared, and I checked my old card (SB16). And after a reboot, cat /dev/sndstat started working and I could send midifiles to my synth using the SB16 midi port. However, cat /dev/sndstat only tells me about my SB16 card and nothing about the PCI 128 (which I - through lspci - found out was a 1370 and not a 1371, which was what I guessed). The PCI 128 seems not to be a part of OSS, but some kernel stuff. But if playmidi uses OSS and my PCI 128 doesn't, how do I use the PCI 128 midi port? Btw playmidi begins by telling my synth to turn itself into GM mode, which it really shouldn't. / David
RE: Samba
Anybody have an idea? -Original Message- From: Olaf Meeuwissen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:23 PM To: Jay Kelly Subject: Re: Samba Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I Run the command "nmblookup -B SERVER __SAMBA__". I get Sending > queries to 0.0.0.0 . How do I change it to point back to me server? Don't know, ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
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Re: Samba Setup
Hi Jay, Well, to install nmap do `apt-get install nmap` Might as well get it, it as a good tool. But from that lynx error it sounds like there is something wrong with SWAT. What version of Debian are you using? Perhaps `apt-get remove samba` then `apt-get update` then `apt-get install samba` will help, there is a possibility that there was a bug in a samba package built at one time... this will make sure you are installing the newest version of samba for your Debian version... Rob On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 01:02:07PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: > Ok, When I run lynx localhost:901 I get errorAlert! Unexpected network read > error; connection aborted. Alert! Unable to access document. > > And if I try nmap I get command not found. > So what do you think I need to do?
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:44:38PM -0700, David Lynn wrote: > I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all > assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date > (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only major > drawback I've found to Debian. I don't find this to be true. If you need the latest bleeding edge program, go with the unstable tree which has historically proven to be more stable than Red Hat Releases. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
ispell-question
Is there a way to remove a word from a ispell-hash file? I was so far unable to find something in the documentation about it. All I could find was how to remove a word from a word list that exists in the hash file, but I want to do it the other way round. Johann -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live." John 11:25
problems with iptables
I am using kernel 2.3.99-pre8 and when I try to start iptables, I get an error about not being able to start 'filter' and I got the following from my logs: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= May 17 05:08:17 lilypad insmod: /lib/modules/2.3.99-pre8/ipv4/iptable_filter.o: insmod iptable_filter failed May 17 05:08:17 lilypad insmod: /lib/modules/2.3.99-pre8/ipv4/iptable_nat.o: insmod iptable_nat failed Any ideas what is wrong? thanks -- Andrew
Configuration
Hello All, Im working on getting Samba to run and I came across: To ensure that the server is run as a daemon whenever the machine is started, and to ensure that it runs as root so that it can serve multiple clients, you will need to modify the system startup files. Wherever appropriate (for example, in /etc/rc), insert the following line, substituting port number, log file location, configuration file location and debug level as desired: /usr/local/samba/bin/smbd -D -l /var/adm/smblogs/log -s /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf Where should I place this new line at? What file do I add to or do I create a new file. Im confused... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jay
Re: ip traffic control
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi ! > > Is there a tool which can handle the maximum limit of kilobites > what a user can use ? I want to restrict the usage of bandwith for > every people. Example the online editor could use the bandwith > upto 20kb-s but the secretary only could use 3 kbits maximum. So > she could start to download the big avis and mp3-s but couldn't eat > all of the bandwith with 5 simoultanous download. > Thanks, > Ago HI Ago, You can use Traffic Shaper (kernel option and package) but pay attention on how to set it since it has some limitation on how to manage bandwith. I read document long time ago and i remember it can handle from 9.600 bps to 256Kbps per each connectiontake a look if it's your situation -- _ ___ ____ ___ ___ _ __ _ _ __ _ |_ _|| _|| | | _|| _|| _ || \/ | | ||_ _|| _ || | | || _ | | | | _|| |_ | _|| |_ | _ || \/ | | | | | | _ || |_ | || _ | |_| |___||___||___||___||___||_||_| |_| |_| |_| |_||___||_||_| |_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] - South European @ccess Back Bone -- http://www.seabone.net/ --- Fabio Massimo Di Nitto | Debian GNU/Linux Woody 2.2.15 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | running on mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Laptop AMD K6-2 400Mhz 64Mb
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:43:20PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: > At 07:29 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: > >Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) > > This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a > > lot of mass installs. > > For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, > and copy over the OS. Or you could even make a disk image and dd it > onto the hard drive. That assumes you have the same hard drive in all > the machines. You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :) But > even if you have 4 or 5 different hard drives in your organization, > using disk images will still save you tons of time. even better, you can make a tar.gz image of your "standard install", stick it on an nfs server and then create a boot floppy with nfs support. when building a new box, boot with the floppy, partition the disk (scriptable using sfdisk), mount the nfs drive, untar the archive, and then run a script which customises whatever needs to be customised (e.g. hostname, IP address, etc). then run lilo to make it bootable from the hard disk. alternatively, put it on a CD-ROM and make that CD bootable - just insert the CD and reboot for a fully-automated install. say 10 meg or so for boot kernel & utilities, leaves you up to around 640MB of compressed tar.gz containing your standard install file-system image. btw, this tar.gz idea is how the debian base system is installed on a machine in the first place. the only significant difference is that you're installing your own tar.gz system image rather than the standard base.tar.gz. automating debian installs is pretty easy - IF you have a good understanding of how debian works. craig -- craig sanders
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:44:18PM -0700, David Lynn wrote: > I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's > all assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to > date (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only > major drawback I've found to Debian. depends if you use stable or unstable. if you use stable, then many packages will be old versions. if you use unstable, then most packages will be the latest up-to-date versions. craig -- craig sanders
R: Rename Workgroup,etc.
see man 5 smb.conf Marco Frattola (S3 - Sviluppo Software e Sistemi) - Cubecom S.p.A. Via de Marini,1 3 piano Torre WTC 16149 GENOVA tel. 010 6591184 > -Messaggio originale- > Da: ktb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: martedì 16 maggio 2000 23.01 > A: Debian-User-Mailing-List > Oggetto: Re: Rename Workgroup,etc. > > > Jay Kelly wrote: > > > > Where do I change my computer Name > > In /etc/hostname > > There is a program 'hostname' you can use but if I remember right to > make it stick you need to sometimes change the file. > > >, Workgroup > > Try "apropos group" there are several programs listed such as > "groupadd" to add a group and "groupmod" to modify a group. > Look at the > man pages for those programs and see which works for you. > > and how do I rename the Samba > > Server? > > Samba? I don't know. > hth, > kent > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: PCI 128...
Once upon a time, I heard David Henningsson say > Okay, so I continue to try to get my PCI128 working. > I ran make menuconfig (kernel 2.2.14) and this time, i checked OSS. And then > a lot of new options appeared, and I checked my old card (SB16). And after a > reboot, cat /dev/sndstat started working and I could send midifiles to my > synth using the SB16 midi port. Interesting! > > However, cat /dev/sndstat only tells me about my SB16 card and nothing about > the PCI 128 (which I - through lspci - found out was a 1370 and not a 1371, > which was what I guessed). > The PCI 128 seems not to be a part of OSS, but some kernel stuff. But if > playmidi uses OSS and my PCI 128 doesn't, how do I use the PCI 128 midi port? > apt-get install timidity, I use it with ESS Maestro chip. Chanop -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GE d? s+: a- C++ UL++ P+ L+++ E- W++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M+ V-- PS PE++ Y PGP++ t+ 5++ X+ R tv+++ b++ DI+ D- G e+++ h* r+ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- pgp6iFTqR2AIF.pgp Description: PGP signature
virtual news server
Hello, I have configured a Debian Linux server, to make IP-masquerating for a private network. This Debian box has also a second network card with an official IP, and connected to ADSL. Everythink works well. But we have a news-server (DNews) in the private network, and I heard about the possibility of configuring the Linux box so that news-quering/delievering on the Linux box comes in fact on the news-server of the private network. Does anybody know how to do this ?? thanks, Philippe -- - Philippe MICHEL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Penser ne suffit pas : il faut penser à quelque chose." Jules Renard => Dispensé de Politesse envers la PUB Sauvage !!! -Pour répondre, supprimer eventuellement "no_spam_" de mon adresse. -Wenn Sie antworten, bitte "no_spam_" von der Adresse löschen. -If you respond to my mail, please remove the eventual "no_spam_".
Re: virtual news server
> But we have a news-server (DNews) in the private network, and I heard > about the possibility of configuring the Linux box so that > news-quering/delievering on the Linux box comes in fact on the > news-server of the private network. > it seems to me, that this is the most FAQ regarding masquerading. :) last time we had this question two days ago. look at the ipmasqadm man page and at the mailing list archives for more info. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who
> 1) write a script to do the deed & supply the args, and call it >as your command; then your command-line will only be the script name. >set (restrict) permissions as needed on the script file. > huuh? does this make sense? the script will eventually call/exec the main program, which will have the password in clear text on it's command line, too. > 2) use variables (not very secure) or aliases (even less secure): >% set cmd='mysql -umyself -ptryagain db' >... >% $cmd > same for this. this is expanded by the shell, so ps shows all sensitive data. > 3) if the command has a dotfile option (as in ~/.mysqlrc) then put >your sensitive stuff there and restrict privileges on that file. > that's the way to go. unfortunately, not all programs offer this feature. note: there is a way for the called prgram to clobber it's own command line. so the program would read it's parameters and then destroy them. the few milliseconds, until it has done so, the command line would be readable, of course. however, this method requires changing the source of the target program. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: hypenation in tetex
I may be wrong, bu it seems to me, that there are no russian hyphenation patterns in /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen. Rather they are stored in /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/ruhyphen. From there you must select one, depending on the encoding you use and copy it to hyphen/ruhyphen.tex. Regards Radim On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:47:33PM +0200, Igor Mozetic wrote: > > How does one change hypenation in potato tetex ?? I've run > texconfig and changed the /etc/texmf/language.dat - no effect. When > I run Latex I still get the original hypenation: > > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) (avt.tex LaTeX2e > <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns > for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article > 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size12.clo)) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty beta test version > (koi8-r.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/russianb.ldf > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def) > > Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for > (babel)the language `Russian' (babel) > I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead. > > -Igor Mozetic
Sendmail
Hi there, and first off thanks to anyone who has helped me with this cron job- thing showing the refused connects... Now I am planning to build the new version of sendmail on our Debian 2.1-system (Kernel : 2.2.15 running) here but stumble over the points four and six of the INSTALL-file : Which .mc-file fits my environment best ? I have wiped away the old version of sendmail by the way. Point six is - as you may know - "install config.cf as /etc/mail/sendmail.cf and install the sendmail-binary" - how do I do this ? Any help is - as always - appreciated very well ! Thanks in advance ! --- Mit freundlichem Gruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oliver Schoenknecht Join us at http://www.kapa.de KOSTENLOS! Online-Auktion bei KAPA! Teilnahme unter: http://www.flohmarkt.kapa.de
Re: mmap- what is it?
> ** Must have working mmap. > > I never had this problem with this machine, so I suspect my mmap got lost > somehow. > mmap is no program, but a system function. if you use a stable kernel and a working libc, then you have this for sure. so there are two possibilities: 1) the configure script is broken somehow 2) you lost some include files (/usr/include/unistd.h or /usr/include/sys/mman.h says the mmap man page) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Doublesided printing using apsfilter
I'm probably not asking on the right list, but anyway: I've installed the apsfilter and everything works fine except of one thing. The filter prints automatically doublesided on our LJ 4000N, which is nothing wrong about, just that the second side is shifted several centimenters to the right and the rightmost part of the text is even out of the paper. I have not find a way ti change this. Maybe there must be some PCL sequence sent before the print, I do not know. Does anyone experience a similar problem? Radim
Re: Jserv segfault on Debian
I use it without a problem. I use the following packages: jserv: 1.1-2 ibm-jdk1.1-installer: 1.1.8-3 (with the latest version of IBM JDK 1.1.8 (there was no segfault problem at our machines with versions after 1999 october)) we are also using gnujsp with it without any major problems. Regards, Robert Varga On Tue, 16 May 2000, Ferenc Kiraly wrote: > Hi! > > Has anyone got Jserv running on Debian? I installed all the > required packages for Jserv, but when I run it it immediately > segfaults. Any ideas? > > feri. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: bashrc
> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > Their is five errers in this sentance. > > Took me a while to find the fifth, then my brain briefly rebelled. > the error could be, that there are only four (orthographical) errors. but as it says, that there are five errors, which is correct, we have only four errors. so we again have five ... *completely perplex* i have the impression, that this has something to do with a thing, which my math teacher called "russels antinomy". or did i miss the point? could someone enlighten me? -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
NIS+? Alternatives?
Some of you probably have seem me asking about this in #debian: I'm trying to setup NIS+ on Debian.. I have a number of machines which I would like to use NIS+ for authentication and also for autofs mapping.. Has anyone actually succeeded in using NIS+ with Debian? I've currently taken nis-utils.tar.gz from ftp.kernel.org and hacked into it a bit. It's half-working.. it asks for the password twice on login, and autofs doesn't see the auto_master table on NIS+.. Also, if NIS+ is just plainly out of the question, are there any good alternatives to NIS+? Keep in mind that it should provide security like NIS+ (column & row permissions), and work with sun and linux clients.. Michael Janssen - Jamuraa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating magicfilter
At the risk of telling you something you already know, keep in mind that while there may not be a magicfilter (I've never tried apsfilter) that matches your exact printer by model #, there may still be one that works. For example I have an Epson SC 660 and use the SC 600 filters. At work I have a Cannon inkjet with a similar situation. Both printers work very well in Linux using magicfilter. This page may help you determine what you need to do for any given printer. It helped me: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi Tom John Anderson wrote: > > Is there anyway to update he print filter selections in magicfilter to > support more and newer printer models. If there is a way to update > magicfilter, what kind of filter can I add (from which program)? > > I tried switching to apsfilter, but found it harder to setup than > magicfilter. Especially trying to setup multiple printers on one > computer. > > > John Kerr Anderson > Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 > >
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:24:50PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:44:38PM -0700, David Lynn wrote: > > I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all > > assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date > > (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only major > > drawback I've found to Debian. > > I don't find this to be true. If you need the latest bleeding edge > program, go with the unstable tree which has historically proven to be more > stable than Red Hat Releases. I can not comment on the stability, but it is not always the case that unstable has the "latest bleeding edge" programs. I am using wxpython (or python-wxwin in Debian language) and while version 2.1.15 has been in used by a lot developers for a few weeks, the unstable version of Debian is still 2.1.11. In the past I had to install rpm-packages to get my hands on newer versions. I am not blaming the Debian developer. He has helped me in the past to try and eliminate some problems with the package. I know that Debian development comes from volunteers and if I had some more time and knowledge on this subject I would like to help with the development. Johann. -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live." John 11:25
Re: Samba
Do you have the 'interfaces=x.x.x.x/xx' set correctly in your /etc/samba/smb.conf ? Be sure that you have an interface that can access the IP address/netmask you substitute for x.x.x.x/xx .. Rob ( Namodn ) On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:22:09PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: > Anybody have an idea? > > -Original Message- > From: Olaf Meeuwissen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:23 PM > To: Jay Kelly > Subject: Re: Samba > > > Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > When I Run the command "nmblookup -B SERVER __SAMBA__". I get Sending > > queries to 0.0.0.0 . How do I change it to point back to me server? > > Don't know, ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: xntp
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : | john writes: | > After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too | > complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater | > accuracy than I need. | | Michel Verdier writes: | > I felt like yourself :) | | Try chrony. The debian package works with dialup straight out of the box. Hum, my English is quite poor : I was meaning "long time ago I felt confused with all these docs, but now all is well and synchronized :)" -- o-o [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Verdier) http://www.chez.com/mverdier
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : | On Wed, 17 May 2000, Matthew Dalton wrote: | > I beleive it is possible to install a Debian system, configure/customise | > it, and then repackage the deb packages using the customised files on | > the system instead of the original default ones, using some provided | > tools. | > | > Can anyone confirm this? I have not tried it myself, but I vaguely | > remember reading it somewhere in the Slink documentation. | | You are thinking of "dpkg-repack", it should also be possible to add and | remove files to/from the customized package. And to complete the trip, it is easy to build a debian packages repository, with dpkg-scanpackages, containing those customized packages. APT can then install them through local net. -- o-o [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Verdier) http://www.chez.com/mverdier
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:28:54PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:43:20PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: > > At 07:29 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: > > >Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) > > > This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a > > > lot of mass installs. > > > > For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, > > and copy over the OS. Or you could even make a disk image and dd it > > onto the hard drive. That assumes you have the same hard drive in all > > the machines. You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :) But > > even if you have 4 or 5 different hard drives in your organization, > > using disk images will still save you tons of time. > > even better, you can make a tar.gz image of your "standard install", > stick it on an nfs server and then create a boot floppy with nfs > support. > > when building a new box, boot with the floppy, partition the disk > (scriptable using sfdisk), mount the nfs drive, untar the archive, and > then run a script which customises whatever needs to be customised (e.g. > hostname, IP address, etc). then run lilo to make it bootable from the > hard disk. This is what I did at BNL for maintaining the 'black wall' of 150 VALinux boxes. I built 1 box like I wanted, and made a tarball of it and put it out on a NFS server. Then I created a kernel with nfsroot and bootp support. As long as I know the MAC of the NIC in the maachine, you can boot, get all the network stuff assigned by the bootp server, and it nfs mounts a small root partition with a hacked up rcS script. This script partitions the disk using sfdisk, formats the partitions, mounts them, then nfs mounts the old image, untars it, then fiddles with the config files, runs lilo, and reboots. On the 350MB install, this takes about 5 minutes for the whole procedure. Now, with the bootp kernel, we never have to touch the machines again. If we update the image, we run a command on each box via ssh that copies the bootp kernel over the normal one, runs lilo, and reboots, and the whole thing runs by itself. We only have to touch the machine 1 time, to get it to boot off the floppy for the initial install. Tim -- >< >> Tim Sailer (at home) >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 671 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Ridge, NY 11961 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 476-3031 << ><
Help: my /var/log/lastlog's as big as Canarsie!
Hi, Has anyone else encountered this situation? I was looking at my /var/log directory and this popped out at me -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 18692964 May 17 04:19 lastlog I'm still tweaking a recent upgrade from Slink to Potato, so I guess I do a lot of su - logins, but still isn't that an enormous file for its purpose? 'man lastlog' does have a cautionary statement about wide gaps in uid #'s slowing down the time it takes for lastlog to print to screen when a user logs in. And, as a consequence of having qmail installed I do have huge gaps in uid's because Debian requires the 7 qmail uid's to be 64010 to 64016. Could this have any bearing on the huge size of the log file? Also, I did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' earlier in the day and got broken 'libpam0g-0.72-7', 'libpam-modules-0.72-7' and 'libpam-runtime-0.72-7' packages. Later I did a successful 'apt-get upgrade' on those 3 packages which were by then upgraded to version '0.72-8'. I do know the libpam upgrades affected files related to '/var/log/lastlog' such as 'login' and 'passwd'. Could that have any bearing on its huge size? Even so, is there some command I can issue to flush the log so I can keep it in proportion? Or will some regular process eventually reduce the size of /var/log/lastlog and free up that disk space? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, montefin
RES: debian.org.br registered
Ok, Are there some intentions for new registration like some kind of public forum or non-profit purpose, refined and free distribuition?! I hope indeed there are no "status" or special power reason for this atitude! By this way, congratulations. I cheer you, let's enjoy it. If you are in the other hand... screw you, debian is 100% suck free! Regards, Márcio Rezende -Mensagem original- De: Eduardo Marcel Macan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: terça-feira, 16 de maio de 2000 09:58 Para: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: debian.org.br registered Hello, I just wanted to announce that I've registered the domain debian.org.br in Brazil to protect it somehow. There is a Free Software Comitee working here to spread the word and since only truly stablished organizations are able to register under .org.br I asked them to register debian.org.br. I've set www.debian.org.br and ftp.debian.org.br to point to our local official primary mirror of the project. Any comments on this? --macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RES: debian.org.br registered
Hehe, maybe it's so if Network Solutions decides it wants debian.org back for itself(going by a recent issue on slashdot), then we've all got something to fall back on. Pete. Marcio Rezende wrote: > > Ok, > > Are there some intentions for new registration like some kind of public > forum or non-profit purpose, refined and free distribuition?! > > I hope indeed there are no "status" or special power reason for this > atitude! > > By this way, congratulations. I cheer you, let's enjoy it. > > If you are in the other hand... screw you, debian is 100% suck free! > -- In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea. *** *Peter GoodEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Pete's Internet Services Sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *http://www.petesinternet.net Phone: 0401 283 482* *Morayfield QLD Australia * ***
Re: RES: debian.org.br registered
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:23:05AM -0300, Marcio Rezende wrote: > Ok, > > Are there some intentions for new registration like some kind of public > forum or non-profit purpose, refined and free distribuition?! Nope, This domain was initially registered and assigned to debian.org , if we start a consistent group to develop in Brazil we may use it, just like debian.org.jp does. Why not? Unfortunately this group does not exist (yet). > I hope indeed there are no "status" or special power reason for this > atitude! Well, the only status reason behind this is that I am a debian developer, indeed the only brazilian one nowadays and I feel that I am doing the best thing for debian by taking care of debian.org.br, unfortunately I could not do the same to debian.com.br on time. Take a look at it. > By this way, congratulations. I cheer you, let's enjoy it. Yeah! Thank you! :) > > If you are in the other hand... screw you, debian is 100% suck free! Yeah, you know, I've been using and contributing to debian (in one way or another) since early 1997, and using only free software since 1994. I don't think I suck at all :) > Regards, > Márcio Rezende Mas porque estamos falando em alemão? --macan
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Previously Chris Wagner wrote: > RPM is a piece of crap compared to dpkg, and now we have apt (advanced > package tool). Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm is not a piece of crap. Wichert. -- _ / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | pgpbY5dy1XEYm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:44:15AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > I don't find this to be true. If you need the latest bleeding edge > > program, go with the unstable tree which has historically proven to be more > > stable than Red Hat Releases. > (or python-wxwin in Debian language) and while version 2.1.15 has been > in used by a lot developers for a few weeks, the unstable version > of Debian is still 2.1.11. In the past I had to install rpm-packages > to get my hands on newer versions. Noe my use of the word "need" instead of the word "want." Most people who run Linux want the latest version for pretty much no other reason than the bragging rights. OTOH, most people who run linux rarely /need/ the latest version. The only time I've personally seen someone /need/ the latest version of a program where the matter of a few weeks was not acceptable was when the FS code in FreeBSD had a massive bug in it that caused the kernel to panic on an ISP's main FTP server. They /needed/ the latest snapshot to see if it fixed their problem. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:55:33PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is > better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm > is not a piece of crap. OK, in the light of trying to say something positive about rpm might I suggest to henceforth call it a "piece of manure" so at least people might think it is worthwhile in helping something grow... like having a growing respect for apt? :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Lost E-mail
Usually I pick up my e-mail by a cron job (Slink, sendmail) but I happend to be on-line doing something and I noticed 3 e-mails coming in. There are notes in the log files but the messages have gone missing. I do export /var/spool/mail. Nothing in /var/spool/mail or mqueue Anybody have any ideas what could have gone wrong? NFS problem? -- Regards from Chris
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:17:14AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:55:33PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is > > better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm > > is not a piece of crap. > > OK, in the light of trying to say something positive about rpm might I > suggest to henceforth call it a "piece of manure" so at least people might > think it is worthwhile in helping something grow... like having a growing > respect for apt? :) ROFL that would make a nice .sig if it weren't so long ;-) its quite true too, i had to go though a session with rpm after switching to debian and boy did it cause alot of swearing ;-) my respect for apt/dpkg certianly grew quite a bit. i then blew away that redhat based dist from my powerpc and installed potato... seriously though i think Wichert is just asking that we be a bit more professional when expressing our dislike for rpm, i suppose it is better if we don't look too much like raving lunatics (sp?) (even if we are :P) afterall its going to take alot of `professionalism' to get that silly LSB to stop `standardizing' on things like rpm... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp31G1taVXib.pgp Description: PGP signature
pine
i'd like to use pine as I know it a little, but I downloaded the pine source deb and the .diff file, but I have no idea what to do with them. Any help? Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:35:20AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > that would make a nice .sig if it weren't so long ;-) What? It is under 4 lines long. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Help: my /var/log/lastlog's as big as Canarsie!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, montefin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Has anyone else encountered this situation? Yes, almost everyone. >I was looking at my /var/log directory and this popped out at me >-rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 18692964 May 17 04:19 lastlog > >I'm still tweaking a recent upgrade from Slink to Potato, so I guess I >do a lot of su - logins, but still isn't that an enormous file for its >purpose? No. Do a "du /var/log/lastlog" - you'll see that it's just a few K. >'man lastlog' does have a cautionary statement about wide gaps in uid >#'s slowing down the time it takes for lastlog to print to screen when a >user logs in. That isn't quite what the manual page says, the manpage is confusing and incomplete though. >And, as a consequence of having qmail installed I do have huge gaps in >uid's because Debian requires the 7 qmail uid's to be 64010 to 64016. >Could this have any bearing on the huge size of the log file? It isn't huge - it just has enormous holes in it. And holes do not take up real disk space. This is a feature of Unix called "sparse files". >Even so, is there some command I can issue to flush the log so I can >keep it in proportion? Or will some regular process eventually reduce >the size of /var/log/lastlog and free up that disk space? Not needed. Try the "du /var/log/lastlog" command to see how much space it _actually_ uses and be amazed ;) Someone should fix/update the manpage though: - mention that the effect under CAVEATS only happens when lastlog is called without -u - explain how the lastlog file works, and why it appears to be bigger than it is. Or just point to lastlog(5) which should then ofcourse be written Mike.
Transfer data between two comps without network
Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak
Re: pine
have you installed the debs? if not, do so with dpkg -i whatever.deb. That will create a directory in /usr/local/src called `pine` I believe. In that directory there is a readme or something which takes you step by step though installing it. -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote: > i'd like to use pine as I know it a little, but I downloaded the pine source > deb and the .diff file, but I have no idea what to do with them. Any help? > > Chris Mason > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 > USA Fax (561) 382-7771 > Take a virtual tour of the island > http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide > Find out more about NetConcepts > www.netconcepts.ai > bwz*mq > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
RE: Transfer data between two comps without network
what about a Sony AIT tape drive. Kind of expensive. Not sure about the linux support. We have two of them and they are great and fast. Ben MCSE, CNA -Original Message- From: Dariush Pietrzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:38 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Transfer data between two comps without network Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man --> info?
Hoi Gregory, ALL! Gregory> Why are man pages abandoned for info? Info requires emacs Gregory> knowledge to navigate, and are text only. Check out pinfo (in doc section), it's a terminal based info-browser and it has a very intuitive interface. -- ignotus
RE: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
Ethan: > to the original poster, reply & change subject != new message > ... > the former screws up threading in mailing list archives and in > MUAs such as mutt. please always create a new message and paste > the list address in instead of using reply as a shortcut, or if > you post often create an alias/address book entry for the list > address. thank you. I always new I was being watched. Pardon my ignorance. I had no idea that any mechanism for tracking threads existed other than the subject line. I'll keep that in mind. Incidentally, how exactly does thread tracking work? I assume there is a header of some kind. Maybe I'll hack it out. Interesting. Well, you learn something new everyday (especially when you don't know much). Thanks. A. Scott White Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy Healthcare Solutions Group Affiliated Computer Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wanted a free library for computational geometry
My calculus instructor showed me a simply fabulous program that I think may be linux driven, called "Net Math", I think. I think it originated out of a Texas university. I don't know how much computational geometry it has, but it looked like fun (assuming you think math is fun, I'm with Barbie when she said, "Math is hard"). BTW, I wrote a C program for searching for a pair of closest points using a divide and conquer kind of thing for a class last fall. You are more than welcome to it (if you don't mind my ugly code). Brooks > -Original Message- > From: Daniele Cruciani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 1:20 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Wanted a free library for computational geometry > > > Hi, > > I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i > need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and > algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need: > LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL > (http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms. > But no one of that are GPLed. > > I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me > so i need to link agaist something other. > I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL. > > > Any suggestion? > > -- > Daniele Cruciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Check my GPG sign at ..??.. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Q: about networking
Does anyone know where I can obtain a documentation on how to setup network on the Potato System? -- The free Corel® LINUX® OS Download is NOW available! Check it out at http://linux.corel.com -- The address in the headers is not the poster's real email address. Do not send private mail to the poster using your mailer's "reply" feature. CC's of mail to mailing lists are OK. Problem reports to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The poster's email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
Apache + PHP3 + MySQL = big mess
Hello,
I am using Debian "Potato" and I use Apache, PHP3 and every modules
containing "php3" and "mysql" and MySQL server and client.
I am going through a tutorial on DevShed (http://www.devshed.com) on
creating a web database. I have checked that PHP3 has been installed
and runs properly. No problems there. I checked the MySQL
configuration and set-up the relevant users and permissions. No
problems there, either. I then had a look at my httpd.conf file, to see
what modules were being loaded. I saw that the libphp3.so and a
mod_auth_mysql.so are uncommented. I then wrote this PHP3 script:
Web Database Sample Index
Data from mytable
";
while ($r = mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
$name = $r["name"];
$phone = $r["phone"];
echo "$name, $phone";
}
echo "";
} else {
echo "No data.";
}
mysql_free_result($result);
?>
Add new entry
Running this script gives me this error:
Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function mysql_connect()
in /var/www/example/index.php3 on line 8
What am I missing ?
Oliver
Re: man --> info?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:50:43AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > Why are man pages abandoned for info? Only FSF do that. Debian _requires_ manpages for all. > Info requires emacs knowledge to navigate, and are text only. Man at least > has xman viewer. ever tryed man -X?? if it's too little, try man -TX100 > Is there any option? Have man pages been html'ed for Debian? I have seen > some INternet sites with man pages online.. Newer groff has a html device which will improve in next version 1.16, not yet released. man -Thtmlwill produce it already. redirect it to a file and read that page from your preferred browser. man source has a not-yet-enabled option -H that does that. Things are moving. Do you wanna help? fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: Rename Workgroup,etc.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:34:44PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: > Where do I change my computer Name, Workgroup and how do I rename the Samba > Server? Samba gets its computer name from /etc/hostname, which is also your "computer name". Workgroup is changed in /etc/smb.conf (or /etc/samba/smb.conf). --Jay Barbee
Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:14:17AM -0500, A. Scott White wrote: > Ethan: > > to the original poster, reply & change subject != new message > > ... > > the former screws up threading in mailing list archives and in > > MUAs such as mutt. please always create a new message and paste > > the list address in instead of using reply as a shortcut, or if > > you post often create an alias/address book entry for the list > > address. thank you. > > I always new I was being watched. :> > Pardon my ignorance. I had no idea that any mechanism for tracking threads > existed other than the subject line. I'll keep that in mind. > > Incidentally, how exactly does thread tracking work? I assume there is a > header of some kind. Maybe I'll hack it out. Interesting. most non-broken mailers include a reference header, i see you use MS Worm+Virus Develop... er Outlook. i am quite impressed they actually bothered to implement this feature correctly... here is the appropriate header in your message: -- In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ^^ that is known as the message id, its essentially @hostname in my case my fake hostname since im on a masqeraded network but thats irrelevant the point is its a reasonably unique string that identifies the message. the other pet peeve of thread lovers is broken clients who don't include that header in which case the thread gets broken... > Well, you learn something new everyday (especially when you don't know > much). > > Thanks. np. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpqcNeMTt6Ki.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Q: about networking
> Does anyone know where I can obtain a documentation on how to setup > network on the Potato System? > yes - everybody who tracked this list for two days relalized the keyword: HOW-TOs they are located in /usr/doc/HOWTO/ (package doc-linux-text). start at Networking-Overview-HOWTO, further look at NET*, IP-*. there you'll mostly find references to other sources on the net, if you need more info. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
XF86, maxima, gnome binaries
Hello to everybody, I have some small question. First 1) I have a Trident card with a mono monitor. If I run XF86_VGA16 I can use 640x480 but with the XF86_SVGA I can run only 640x400, 640x480 gives an image out of the monitor area, no xvidtune worked to solve the problem. Can someone help me ? My monitor can do 31.46 kHz with 50-70 Hz vertical frequency. 2) Has someone got maxima (gnu maxima) compiled ? I could not have it compiled with gcl source package ? Phreaphs someone has a slink binary out there ? 3) Is there a place where I can get gnome application in binary form for slink (guppi, numexp and so on)? I did not tell but I am working with slink and a 2.2.14 kernel. I would like to finish saying that I use Linux from version 0.97 (SLS release, MCC and so on) I have tried most of the release (RH, suse, Mandrake, slackware...) but the best is debian (no holy war please I only find great the update mechanism). The only missing thing is a centralized administration tool. Great work !!! Keep it like that!! Alberto Meroni
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
I highly recommend you check out the Ecra VXA-1. Check out www.ecrix.com. I've got one on order right now. It's also Linux certified (I forget who does that Linux hardware certification thingy but they did it). The specs were more than enough to get me. They have a special offer right now for first-time US buyers (sorry Dariush). Here's the excerpt from my VXAdata newsletter: SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIRST-TIME U.S. BUYERS Now you can evaluate the VXA drive -completely- free for 30 days. And, if you decide to keep it, get big savings. Internal Kit, only $399, External Kit, only $499. Offer good only in the US, until May 31, by going to: http://www.ecrix.com/eval I'm thinking of finally getting a nice tape drive for home. Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > Welcome, > my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) > daily. > And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. > I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the > best way to do that: > i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module > and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module > then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. > That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have > to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation > is unacceptable. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on this? > (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's > what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they > B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) > > regards, > Dariush Pietrzak > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Socket Error
After looking at the smb.log I noticed a error: [2000/05/17 07:37:48, 1] smbd/sever.c:main(628) smbd version 2.0.5a started. [2000/05/17 07:37:48, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are available. [2000/05/17 07:37:49, 0] lib/unit_sock.c:open_socket_in(886) bind failed on port 139 socket_addr=0.0.0.0 (address already in use) What do I need to do to fix this? Thanks again for all you help guys.
Re: bashrc
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:29:58AM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > Their is five errers in this sentance. > > > > Took me a while to find the fifth, then my brain briefly rebelled. > > > the error could be, that there are only four (orthographical) > errors. but as it says, that there are five errors, which is correct, we > have only four errors. so we again have five ... *completely perplex* > > i have the impression, that this has something to do with a thing, which > my math teacher called "russels antinomy". > > or did i miss the point? could someone enlighten me? > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > -- > If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back! As far as I can see, that appears to be the fifth error ... the fact that there is only four errors =) Bit of a bitch ... how did that come into the thread anyway? =P -- __ _ __ _ Justin Megawarne [ Solitude ] Tel: +44 (0)20 8863 0718 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cel: +44 (0)7941 270 136 http://kholmes.dhis.net/ irc.destructor.net && irc.xchat.org - #Linux
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
| Welcome, | my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) | daily. | And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. Umm...how about encrypting it prior to sending it across the network. I've used schemes such as piping data across an SSH process to achieve this without having to encrypt the files on disk. In fact, that's how our Amanda backup installation backs up all of our remote production servers. Another thought, go out and buy yourself a couple of Lucent/Wavelan ORINOCO Gold wireless ethernet cards. They'll do 128-bit encryption between the two cards. Just my $.02. Dave Dave Brookshire Vice President of Information Technology Magnet Interactive Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 (202) 471-5806 voice +1 (202) 471-5807 fax | I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the | best way to do that: | i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module | and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module | then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. | That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have | to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation | is unacceptable. | | Does anyone have any suggestions on this? | (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's | what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they | B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow )
Re: man --> info?
At 05:19 PM 05/17/2000 +0300, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:50:43AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > Why are man pages abandoned for info? Only FSF do that. Debian _requires_ manpages for all. -- but many man pages say "not maintained, use info." so it is not just formatting them, but getting the relevant info. BUGS The GNU folks, in general, abhor man pages, and create info documents instead. The maintainer of tar falls into this category. This man page is neither complete, nor current, and was included in the Debian Linux packaging of tar entirely to reduce the frequency with which the lack of a man page gets reported as a bug in our defect track ing system. If you really want to understand tar, then you should run info and read the tar info pages, or use the info mode in emacs. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: man --> info?
At 09:27 PM 05/16/2000 +0200, Richard Klinda wrote:
Hoi Gregory, ALL!
Gregory> Why are man pages abandoned for info? Info requires emacs
Gregory> knowledge to navigate, and are text only.
Check out pinfo (in doc section), it's a terminal based info-browser
and it has a very intuitive interface.
-- Thanks a lot; but:
alpha{root}.135: man pinfo
No manual entry for pinfo
alpha{root}.136: apt-get install pinfo
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package pinfo
??
Dr. Gregory Guthrie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103
Computer Science Department
College of Science and Technology
Maharishi University of Management
(Maharishi International University 1971-1995)
http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
russell's antimony, was RE: bashrc
> From: Justin Megawarne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:29:58AM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > Their is five errers in this sentance. > > > > > > Took me a while to find the fifth, then my brain briefly rebelled. > > > > > the error could be, that there are only four (orthographical) > > errors. but as it says, that there are five errors, which > is correct, we > > have only four errors. so we again have five ... > *completely perplex* > > > > i have the impression, that this has something to do with a > thing, which > > my math teacher called "russels antinomy". > > > > or did i miss the point? could someone enlighten me? > > > > -- > > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > > -- > > If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back! > > As far as I can see, that appears to be the fifth error ... > the fact that > there is only four errors =) > > Bit of a bitch ... how did that come into the thread anyway? =P > -- yeah, but: if the fifth error is that there are only four errors, then there aren't only four errors, there are five. so the fifth error isn't an error, because there are five errors. and if the fifth error isn't an error, then there are only four errors. but if the fifth error is that there are only four errors, then there aren't only four errors, there are five. so the fifth error isn't an error, because there are five errors. and if the fifth error isn't an error, then there are only four errors. but if the fifth error is that there are only four errors, then there aren't only four errors, there are five. so the fifth error isn't an error, because there are five errors. and if the fifth error isn't an error, then there are only four errors. etc etc etc etc etc Dominic Blythe -- I used to be an advocate of Anything But Microsoft until I discovered Debian GNU/Linux.
Re: Apache + PHP3 + MySQL = big mess
You are probably missing the php3-mysql package. I
had similar problems with getting imap to work until I
installed the php3-imap package. Give that a shot
Dustin
--- Oliver Hingst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello,
> I am using Debian "Potato" and I use Apache, PHP3
> and every modules
> containing "php3" and "mysql" and MySQL server and
> client.
> I am going through a tutorial on DevShed
> (http://www.devshed.com) on
> creating a web database. I have checked that PHP3
> has been installed
> and runs properly. No problems there. I checked
> the MySQL
> configuration and set-up the relevant users and
> permissions. No
> problems there, either. I then had a look at my
> httpd.conf file, to see
> what modules were being loaded. I saw that the
> libphp3.so and a
> mod_auth_mysql.so are uncommented. I then wrote
> this PHP3 script:
>
>
> Web Database Sample Index
>
>
>
>Data from mytable
> mysql_connect("localhost", "webuser", "");
> $query = "SELECT name, phone FROM mytable";
> $result = mysql_db_query("example", $query);
>
> if ($result) {
>echo "Found these entries in the
> database:";
>while ($r = mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
> $name = $r["name"];
> $phone = $r["phone"];
> echo "$name, $phone";
> }
>echo "";
> } else {
>echo "No data.";
> }
>mysql_free_result($result);
>?>
>
> Add new entry
>
>
>
> Running this script gives me this error:
> Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined
> function mysql_connect()
> in /var/www/example/index.php3 on line 8
>
> What am I missing ?
>
> Oliver
>
>
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Re: GRACIAS SI ES POSIBLE!!! (translation)
Here is a translation for you anglophones: > Estimados Amiggoos Esteemed friends > Soy un usuario fiel de Linux y me gustria Recibir una I am a faithful user of Linux, and it would please me to receive a > camiseta de Regalo si es posible. yo vivo en T-shirt as a gift if it possible. I live in > Cali-Colombia > Calle 2c # 65b25 b/ El Refugio [No translation necessary, as this is an address.] > Gracias.. [Thanks...] > Att: Freddy Andres Mera Freddy, es posible obtener mejor respuesta si eras un usuario fiel de Debian... ;-) (Freddy, it is possible to obtain a better response if you are a faithful user of Debian.)
Re: Apache + PHP3 + MySQL = big mess
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:16:20PM +0100, Oliver Hingst wrote
> Hello,
> I am using Debian "Potato" and I use Apache, PHP3 and every modules
> containing "php3" and "mysql" and MySQL server and client.
> I am going through a tutorial on DevShed (http://www.devshed.com) on
> creating a web database. I have checked that PHP3 has been installed
> and runs properly. No problems there. I checked the MySQL
> configuration and set-up the relevant users and permissions. No
> problems there, either. I then had a look at my httpd.conf file, to see
> what modules were being loaded. I saw that the libphp3.so and a
> mod_auth_mysql.so are uncommented. I then wrote this PHP3 script:
>
You need the php3, mysql-server and php3-mysql packages, which
from what you say are probably installed.
Most likely, you didn't check that the line
extension=mysql.so
appears in /etc/php3/{apache,cgi}/php3.ini
HTH,
John P.
--
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Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
How far are the machines apart? If not to far, what about a dedicated connection between them? Matth On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: > I highly recommend you check out the Ecra VXA-1. Check out www.ecrix.com. > I've got one > on order right now. It's also Linux certified (I forget who does that Linux > hardware > certification thingy but they did it). The specs were more than enough to get > me. They > have a special offer right now for first-time US buyers (sorry Dariush). > Here's the > excerpt from my VXAdata newsletter: > > SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIRST-TIME U.S. BUYERS > > Now you can evaluate the VXA drive -completely- free for > 30 days. And, if you decide to keep it, get big savings. > Internal Kit, only $399, External Kit, only $499. Offer > good only in the US, until May 31, by going to: > http://www.ecrix.com/eval > > I'm thinking of finally getting a nice tape drive for home. > > Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > > > Welcome, > > my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) > > daily. > > And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. > > I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the > > best way to do that: > > i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module > > and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module > > then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. > > That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have > > to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation > > is unacceptable. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions on this? > > (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's > > what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they > > B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) > > > > regards, > > Dariush Pietrzak > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Jens B. Jorgensen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: grep with actual date ?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 01:41:00PM +0100, Oliver Schoenknecht wrote: > Hi there, > > I am planning to do a daily system check with refused connects by > placing them in a cron job. So far, so good. But - and that's the > problem - does anyone know how to tell the "grep"-command to > filter just the refused connects of today and not all those which are > two weeks old ? This should happen each day frequently so any > help would be appreciated very well... I use a homebrew toy for such things. (Swatch liked to mailbomb me for each 'interesting' line in the logs, and I didn't see any other log thingies I liked.) See http://www.cmc.net/~bem/isp/watcher, which is sort of cool because not only is its own man page (gotta love perl), it's also PGP clearsigned. (Okay, so I was bored.) Basically, I run it out of cron, and it mails me 'interesting' (or 'unknown', since unknown may be something I -should- be watching but never saw before) items from the logs. It probably needs work -- there are things I wish it could do, but it does do 99.999% of what I need, so it's pretty low priority for me to futz with. If you wanna mess with it, it's GPL.. as long as you share, I don't care what you do with it. :) -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: xntp
Hoi John! John> I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's John> timeserver. This box is a stand-alone one, and I connect using John> a modem. John> After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs John> far too complex to fully understand, and the program aims for John> far greater accuracy than I need. Check out rdate. With one (two?) simple command, you can adjust your clock. My /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/time_adjust script: #!/bin/sh su root -c "rdate -a makosteszta.sote.hu > /dev/tty9" su root -c "hwclock --systohc" # (The value of readjustment each time echoed on tty9.) -- ignotus
Re: PCI 128...
Hi David, you do not need OSS. Use 1370, only
Hmm... what gives with that mail??
Hi *, Take a look at the message below. I have just received it from the debian-user list. There would be nothing strange in it if not for the fact that the person who posted it (apparently from the wcom.com domain as seen in the full logs) appears to have an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] - that is in _my_ domain :)). The problem is that neither no bolan or debian.vip.net.pl exist! Our mailer is not an open relay, the user posted it from the wcom.com domain (see the attached full logs). I wonder whether the other people on the list received posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards, marek - Forwarded message from Bolan Timothy Lewis Meek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:27:11 + From: Bolan Timothy Lewis Meek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GRACIAS SI ES POSIBLE!!! (translation) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a translation for you anglophones: > Estimados Amiggoos Esteemed friends > Soy un usuario fiel de Linux y me gustria Recibir una I am a faithful user of Linux, and it would please me to receive a > camiseta de Regalo si es posible. yo vivo en T-shirt as a gift if it possible. I live in > Cali-Colombia > Calle 2c # 65b25 b/ El Refugio [No translation necessary, as this is an address.] > Gracias.. [Thanks...] > Att: Freddy Andres Mera Freddy, es posible obtener mejor respuesta si eras un usuario fiel de Debian... ;-) (Freddy, it is possible to obtain a better response if you are a faithful user of Debian.) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null - End forwarded message - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 17:50:58 2000 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.vip.net.pl (mail.vip.net.pl [195.216.103.131]) by jester.vip.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF451102F3 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:50:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) by mail.vip.net.pl (Vip-Net Mailer) with SMTP id 50DD53F3E for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 28751 invoked by uid 38); 17 May 2000 15:48:49 - X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 28691 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 15:48:48 - Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (199.249.20.2) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 17 May 2000 15:48:48 - Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:50 + (GMT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.143]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:49 + (GMT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:20 + (GMT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:20 + (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com ([166.37.204.5]) by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:01 + (GMT) Received: from ngndebian1 ([166.35.145.181]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.07.05 118-131) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:47:53 + Received: from bolan by ngndebian1 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12s5j5-fr-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:27:11 + Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:27:11 + From: Bolan Timothy Lewis Meek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GRACIAS SI ES POSIBLE!!! (translation) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92562 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Status: RO Content-Length: 714 Lines: 23 pgpGFnGrrKNIp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help: my /var/log/lastlog's as big as Canarsie!
Holy Canarsie, Miquel! You are absolutely right, 'du /var/log/lastlog' does show the file to be miniscule. Whew! Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > montefin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Has anyone else encountered this situation? > > Yes, almost everyone. > I wonder how come no one in #linux knew about it? Too bad no one in #debian ever speaks (at least to me), surely they would have known? > > >I was looking at my /var/log directory and this popped out at me > >-rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 18692964 May 17 04:19 lastlog > > > No. Do a "du /var/log/lastlog" - you'll see that it's just a few K. > I loaf this country! Where else can 18692964 of anything equal 12000? And /var/log/faillog isn't 1536408 either, it's just 7000. And Alan Greenspan is worried about inflation? Hah! > > That isn't quite what the manual page says, the manpage is confusing > and incomplete though. > Right again, Miquel! The man page says exactly "CAVEATS Large gaps in uid numbers will cause the lastlog program to run longer with no output to the screen (i.e. if mmdf=800 and last uid=170, program will appear to hang as it processes uid 171-799)." Hm, kinda sounds like > >'man lastlog' does have a cautionary statement about wide gaps in uid > >#'s slowing down the time it takes for lastlog to print to screen when a > >user logs in. > > This is a feature of Unix called "sparse files". > This is a feature? Now I am amazed ;) > > Someone should fix/update the manpage though: > > - explain how the lastlog file works, > Mike, please sir, just how does the lastlog file work? Actually, maybe the manual page should be left just they way it is so we can direct newbies like me to it on Halloween. Anyway, I feel much better now...I think. Er...lemme go reread the 'du' manual page, and maybe the 'ls' manual page, too. Kudos, Miquel, and thanks bud, montefin
Re: man --> info?
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> At 09:27 PM 05/16/2000 +0200, Richard Klinda wrote:
> >Hoi Gregory, ALL!
> >
> > Gregory> Why are man pages abandoned for info? Info requires emacs
> > Gregory> knowledge to navigate, and are text only.
> >
> >Check out pinfo (in doc section), it's a terminal based info-browser
> >and it has a very intuitive interface.
> -- Thanks a lot; but:
>
> alpha{root}.135: man pinfo
> No manual entry for pinfo
> alpha{root}.136: apt-get install pinfo
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package pinfo
pinfo is included in potato, not yet in slink.
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Program for both win98/dos and Linux
Since I'm going to use both win98 and Linux for a while, it would be nice to have programs working in both OS's, that is, they share the same data, on perhaps a FAT16 partition. I have a program for fidonet - mypoint works under Linux' DOS-emulator. Word 97 and Staroffice/Linux seems to work well, the little I've tested so far. I don't have two mail programs who work well, any ideas? This is what I miss the most right now. The same goes for ICQ, would be nice to have a common database of message history, and maybe IRC. There is no risk of both programs doing things at the same time, as I either boot one OS or the other. / David
Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:29:55PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > > On Tue, 16 May 2000 11:56:07 PDT, "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" writes: > > >On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see > > >> it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p > > >> passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can > > >> hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which > > >> I can specify my password in command line... > > > > > >don't put your password on the commandline. Even if ps does not show it, > > >it > > >will appear in /proc. > > > > So the real question is: how can you manage so that not everything in /proc > > is world-readable (is that?s possible by design)? > > > > that is just the way it is, there is no way to change that in the > standard kernel. i say standard kernel because there is a security > patch which adds several security options to the kernel config, such > as non-executable stack (which does no good) and tighter permissions > on /proc. i think the way it works is instead of those files being > world readable they are mode 440/550 instead of 444/555, and you can > specify the group as a /proc mount option. this way you could allow > all members of the wheel group to see all processes but everyone else > can only see processes they own not any others. > > this proc patch has been proposed to be installed in the standard > kernel but has always been rejected, i am not sure why it may very > well break things. i think that this should be mount option for proc > personally, if you don't need/want it mount proc normally, otherwise > mount it with -o secure,group=wheel or something. > > -- > Ethan Benson > http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ > But for example,what if I want to write a shell script which will login to the remote server automatically?e.g..for some cgi...etc...
My Debian box is unstable- Why?
Now that I've got your attention, here's the problem I'm having. Whenever I attempt to run x11amp more than once in a single session, it refuses to reopen a second instance of the application. I have also seen it die when opening another application concurrently. When I try to restart then run x11amp from the command line, I get at least 15 repetitions of the following error: Unable to open the audio device Unable to reset audio device As I write this my load monitor is completely in the red and top is telling me that Netscape is using 98% of my cpu. I'm running Debian (potato)using a 2.0.36 kernel on a standalone (Pentium Pro) workstation with 40mb of RAM. Does anybody know what's going on here? Any suggestions as to where to look? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: PCI 128...
>you do not need OSS. Use 1370, only If that goes for midi too, why isn't the midi working? The documentation says (about midi) 'no ioctls supported'. What does that mean? (That alsa is the only option?) / David
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
> Whenever I attempt to run x11amp more than > once in a single session, it refuses to reopen a > second instance of the application. many devices (including the audio devices) can be opened only once at a time. so the second x11amp hangs waiting for the audio device to free up. > I have also seen it die when opening another application concurrently. this kind of an unprecise problem description ... however - x11amp is quite old. try xmms. it's the same, but under a new name. > When I try to restart then run x11amp from the command > line, I get at least 15 repetitions of the following > error: > > Unable to open the audio device > Unable to reset audio device > probably resulting from the first point ... > As I write this my load monitor is completely in the > red and top is telling me that Netscape is using 98% > of my cpu. > netscape? that's nothing new ... kill - restart - feel fine. *g* -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
First of all I would like to say your kernel is qoute ols, my suggestion: compile a new one! Second (more towards your problem) is why you can't open more than 1 x11amp application, my guess is that when you open one, it takes your soundcard (simply because it needs it to function...), when you open a seconds (by the way: Why do you want to???!), it finds out the resource is already taken (thank you x11amp programmers for saying it and not for waiting or it, this in regard to deadlocks), because it's taken it says you can'tuse it (nothing special to me). I guess that's your problem, a bit more to the point: Your soundcard can't be shared OR linux can't share your soundcard. Ron Rademaker On Wed, 17 May 2000, Eric Hagglund wrote: > Now that I've got your attention, here's the problem > I'm having. Whenever I attempt to run x11amp more than > once in a single session, it refuses to reopen a > second instance of the application. I have also seen > it die when opening another application concurrently. > When I try to restart then run x11amp from the command > line, I get at least 15 repetitions of the following > error: > > Unable to open the audio device > Unable to reset audio device > > > > As I write this my load monitor is completely in the > red and top is telling me that Netscape is using 98% > of my cpu. > > I'm running Debian (potato)using a 2.0.36 kernel on a > standalone (Pentium Pro) workstation with 40mb of RAM. > > Does anybody know what's going on here? Any > suggestions as to where to look? > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: Hmm... what gives with that mail??
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:33:04PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > Hi *, > > Take a look at the message below. I have just received it from the > debian-user list. There would be nothing strange in it if not for the fact > that the person who posted it (apparently from the wcom.com domain as seen > in the full logs) appears to have an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] - that > is in _my_ domain :)). The problem is that neither no bolan or > debian.vip.net.pl exist! Our mailer is not an open relay, the user posted it > from the wcom.com domain (see the attached full logs). > I wonder whether the other people on the list received posts from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] They would if they had a host named 'debain.YOUR.DOMAIN.COM'. Sendmail (and probably other smtp servers) tries to canonify names in headers. This is a semi-helpful process, but it usually is correct to do. (See RFC1123, section 5.2.18, which mandates using fqdn's which is why sendmail, trying to be nice, tries to fix partial names it sees.) Sites without a machine named 'debain.whatever.com' (ie 'nslookup debian' fails) will leave it as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Even more obvious of the same thing is people who send mail as just 'username' which gets canonified as [EMAIL PROTECTED] by each recipient. (Spammers do this reasonably often judging from how often our users complain about it.) Looks like the original sender needs to fix their mail setup to use the fqdn. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Looking for a backup tool...
Does anyone know of a program that will give you a list of files changed since a certain date? It would be extremely useful for backups, because you could just back up files that were changed since your last backup... I suppose I could write something like this in Perl, but if anyone knows of such a program, I'd like to know. -DGW
Re: Looking for a backup tool...
> Does anyone know of a program that will give you a list of files changed > since a certain date? It would be extremely useful for backups, because you > could just back up files that were changed since your last backup... > find should do the job. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: xntp
Hi , How do I find out a good/valid server to rdate the time? Thanks! Richard Klinda wrote: > > Hoi John! > > John> I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's > John> timeserver. This box is a stand-alone one, and I connect using > John> a modem. > > John> After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs > John> far too complex to fully understand, and the program aims for > John> far greater accuracy than I need. > > Check out rdate. With one (two?) simple command, you can adjust your > clock. > > My /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/time_adjust script: > > #!/bin/sh > su root -c "rdate -a makosteszta.sote.hu > /dev/tty9" > su root -c "hwclock --systohc" > > # (The value of readjustment each time echoed on tty9.) > > -- > ignotus > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Looking for a backup tool...
Oswald Buddenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Does anyone know of a program that will give you a list of files changed > > since a certain date? It would be extremely useful for backups, > > because you could just back up files that were changed since your > > last backup... > > > find should do the job. Better yet, there are quite a few backup utilities that do this type of thing for you automatically. I use afbackup and like it very much, although it's a client/server system so a bit tough to set up. GNU Tar can do this automatically as well using its "--incremental" argument. I'm sure there are at least a couple more available pre-packaged as *.deb files that I'm missing. Go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and search for "backup" in frozen or stable. Gary
Re: Hmm... what gives with that mail??
** On May 17, brian moore scribbled: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:33:04PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > Hi *, > > > > Take a look at the message below. I have just received it from the > > debian-user list. There would be nothing strange in it if not for the fact > > that the person who posted it (apparently from the wcom.com domain as seen > > in the full logs) appears to have an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] - that > > is in _my_ domain :)). The problem is that neither no bolan or > > debian.vip.net.pl exist! Our mailer is not an open relay, the user posted it > > from the wcom.com domain (see the attached full logs). > > I wonder whether the other people on the list received posts from > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > They would if they had a host named 'debain.YOUR.DOMAIN.COM'. The thing is I _don't_ have debian.VIP.NET.PL and still I got the message with such address. > Sendmail (and probably other smtp servers) tries to canonify names in > headers. This is a semi-helpful process, but it usually is correct to > do. (See RFC1123, section 5.2.18, which mandates using fqdn's which is > why sendmail, trying to be nice, tries to fix partial names it sees.) I use postfix and I suppose it does the same. In the situation where the lookup fails I suppose postfix appended my domain name even though the host with such derived name doesn't exist. > Sites without a machine named 'debain.whatever.com' (ie 'nslookup > debian' fails) will leave it as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Not what happened here... > Even more obvious of the same thing is people who send mail as just > 'username' which gets canonified as [EMAIL PROTECTED] by each > recipient. (Spammers do this reasonably often judging from how often > our users complain about it.) The original poster apparently used Exim, which does canonicalize local user names, unless it is misconfigured. > Looks like the original sender needs to fix their mail setup to use the > fqdn. he, or one of the several relays that lie between him and the outer world... marek pgpVqwZmteBOH.pgp Description: PGP signature
x-server for ATI Rage Fury?
Dear Debian, I just purchased and installed Debian and there are no x-servers listed that are compatible with my Rage Fury 32Mb AGP video card. Is it possible to install the compatible x-server from another distribution into debian? If so, how would I go about doing this? Sincerely, Ned -- +---+ | Ned Harkey | Xeran Technologies | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 803/256-8444 | +---+
mailagent configuration problems
Hi, I've been fighting with mailagent to get it configured. I follow the clear instructions in the man-page, and get on to testing. Having set up my .forward as told, I get this sort of entry in the file which takes "error" output from the filter (~/.bak in the setup) 00/05/17 17:22:49 filter[6363]: reading mail 00/05/17 17:22:49 filter[6363]: got mail (875 bytes) 00/05/17 17:30:12 filter[6393]: reading mail 00/05/17 17:30:12 filter[6393]: got mail (875 bytes) 00/05/17 17:30:14 filter[6396]: reading mail 00/05/17 17:30:14 filter[6396]: got mail (1545 bytes) and I get no trace of anything in the logfile, even with verboseness set to 20. Even more worryingly, I can't find the mails that have been "read" anywhere. Another possible symptom - If I run mailagent with -f and point it to my unix mail directory, I get "insecure configuration" and what looks like a hang. All suggestions gatefully received, Tony
Re: Looking for a backup tool...
At 01:33 PM 05/17/2000 -0400, David Grill Watson wrote: Does anyone know of a program that will give you a list of files changed since a certain date? It would be extremely useful for backups, because you could just back up files that were changed since your last backup... -- find place -newer file_of_desired_date Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who
On Wed, 17 May 2000, w trillich wrote:
> to hide the args of your command, there are several tricks
> aside from the 'overhaul the kernel' approach--
>
> 1) write a script to do the deed & supply the args, and call it
>as your command; then your command-line will only be the script name.
>set (restrict) permissions as needed on the script file.
>
I don't think it will work...in ps it will still show the executable
follwed by the argument that thhe shell script executed...
> 2) use variables (not very secure) or aliases (even less secure):
>% set cmd='mysql -umyself -ptryagain db'
>...
>% $cmd
I hanv't tried cmd...but if I use alias the actuall command will be
shown in "ps" too...
>
> 3) if the command has a dotfile option (as in ~/.mysqlrc) then put
>your sensitive stuff there and restrict privileges on that file.
>
this one i havn't tried yet...
> ... there are probably other ways as well, each with its own
> pitfalls. tinker around, scan the manpages, see what you come
> up with.
>
> problem is, linux/unix was designed with information sharing--not
> information barricaded in a subterranean hermetically-sealed vault--as
> a primary goal. unfortunately it's a bit against our nature, just
> yet, to be open as linux is. ("*my* user list! mine! mine!")
>
> maybe someday...
>
...seem the thing won't show is just the binnary code of the
executable
so I need to modify the source code and put my password inside the code
and compile it
dpkg status history...how much is too much?
In the spirit of "Ignorance is the path to wisdom" please bear with me. Discovering the ambiguities in certain file size accountings under Unix/Linux (re: earlier post where du and ls gave vastly different results for both /var/log/lastlog and /var/log/faillog) led me to inspect /var more closely. There seemed to be no ambiguity in the following: # du -h /var/lib/dpkg 5.0M/var/lib/dpkg/info 1.0k/var/lib/dpkg/updates 56k /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives 5.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/disk/www 8.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/disk 2.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/floppy 1.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt 2.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/multicd 2.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/mountable 1.0k/var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp 17k /var/lib/dpkg/methods 15M /var/lib/dpkg I am currently using apt-get and dpkg extensively to build and maintain a workable Potato distro on a box with a smallish HDD (814 Mb). That 15M in /var/lib/dpkg seemed chunky to me. So I did du -k /var/lib/dpkg and got: total 10762 drwxr-xr-x6 root root 1024 May 17 07:40 . drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 1024 May 7 17:51 .. drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 May 15 22:12 alternatives -rw-r--r--1 root root 3518844 May 17 03:04 available -rw-r--r--1 root root 3518844 May 17 03:03 available-old -rw-r--r--1 root root8 May 17 02:47 cmethopt -rw-r--r--1 root root 2128 May 17 03:02 diversions -rw-r--r--1 root root 2020 May 17 03:02 diversions-old drwxr-xr-x2 root root65536 May 17 03:03 info -rw-r-1 root root0 May 17 03:03 lock -rw-rw1 root root0 May 17 02:47 methlock drwxr-xr-x8 root root 1024 Apr 5 02:36 methods -rw-r--r--1 root root 1129 Apr 13 06:19 predep-package -rw-r--r--1 root root 870741 May 17 03:04 status -rw-r--r--1 root root 870740 May 17 03:03 status-old -rw-r--r--1 root root 870741 May 17 03:04 status.yesterday.0 -rw-r--r--1 root root 207236 May 15 23:59 status.yesterday.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 206679 May 14 01:42 status.yesterday.2.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 205638 May 13 20:57 status.yesterday.3.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 205079 May 7 17:53 status.yesterday.4.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 204288 May 7 01:03 status.yesterday.5.gz -rw-r--r--1 root root 203151 May 5 13:18 status.yesterday.6.gz drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 May 17 03:04 updates Does dpkg need all that status history? And if not, must I monitor it myself, or does dpkg have a self-cleansing method that is somehow not being invoked here? This may seem a small problem to some, but it grows in inverse proportion to the size of ones hard disk. I use 'apt-get clean' regularly to keep the overhead down, but I haven't found, or knew that I'd found, anything similar in the dpkg manual page. I hesitate to write a cron job to trim these status files on new processes I'm still in the early stages of learning. Thanks for whatever guidance you can give, and for your patience. montefin
Finding a package name?
How do you find a packagename that's pretty long?
{0}:iggy:/root>dpkg -l | grep ^r
rc xfonts-biznet-iso-8859- 3.0.0-6 75 dpi BIZNET ISO-8859-2
fonts for X servers.
The package name is too long, and gets truncated, so I can't purge it.
Robert
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Re: Lost E-mail
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:25:57PM +0100, Christopher Clark wrote: > Usually I pick up my e-mail by a cron job (Slink, sendmail) but I happend to > be > on-line doing something and I noticed 3 e-mails coming in. There are notes in > the log files but the messages have gone missing. I do export > /var/spool/mail. Nothing in /var/spool/mail or mqueue Anybody have any ideas Well, where do the log files say the messages went? It's entirely possible that you lost the messages to NFS, but it's hard to say based on the information you've given. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpWbZVP5Fgfl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
>| my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) >| daily. >| And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. > >Umm...how about encrypting it prior to sending it across the network. >I've used schemes such as piping data across an SSH process to achieve >this without having to encrypt the files on disk. In fact, that's how our >Amanda backup installation backs up all of our remote production servers. That should work, and if the client and server machines are fast enough (say PentiumIII-700) and it's switched full-duplex 100baseT then it should be possible to do the transfer in 1-2 hours. Of course if you have to transfer 50G of data between machines daily then you probably have some type of design problem anyway. >Another thought, go out and buy yourself a couple of Lucent/Wavelan >ORINOCO Gold wireless ethernet cards. They'll do 128-bit encryption >between the two cards. Isn't Wavelan 2Mb == 256KB? This means 20 to 50 hours transfer time per day. This makes it unworkable. Also Wavelan emulates regular Ethernet, so the usual IP spoofing tricks will work. If the data is too secret for regular Ethernet then Wavelan is no good. Russell Coker
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Dariush Pietrzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) > daily. > And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. It's a lot of data to be shifting back and forth. Maybe you should try to convince your bosses that end-to-end encryption over a networked medium (even if it's a private network) is safe enough. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life's not fair," I reply. "But the root password helps." - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IuGTPjGH3lNt65URAt7DAJ9uzr22gW1p5UF4PYq0gref4IwkugCeKCts tcuR7DufYR3uc5NI66/ROEo= =M1MC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, "A. Scott White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Incidentally, how exactly does thread tracking work? I assume there is a > header of some kind. Maybe I'll hack it out. Interesting. The In-Reply-To: header field has the message-id of the article you're replying to. Also, some mail readers insert a References: header which has the message-id of previous articles too. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life's not fair," I reply. "But the root password helps." - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IuJIPjGH3lNt65URAnQeAJ4/RI5QDA6ELrkMSAmXLUgaQKIHxwCgtT2M dMwubAhxoJN9Ablm4wZ+y6o= =YDQ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KDE2 in tree or not?
Hello, I'm very confused about KDE2's stance within the Debian tree? One set of people say that it'll definitely be included in there (if so, when?), while another set insist that it won't because of the licensing issues. Can anyone provide a definite answer (with proof? A link to a web site with info on that?)? -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 GigaBee Interactive http://www.gigabee.com PayPal - Securely send money to an e-mail user! https://secure.paypal.com/refer/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailagent configuration problems
Tony writes: > Another possible symptom - If I run mailagent with -f and point it to my > unix mail directory, I get "insecure configuration" and what looks like a > hang. I assume that what you mean is that you point it at one of the files in your mail directory. What are the permissions on that file? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Maxima on debian
> Date: 17 May 2000 16:35:04 -
> From: Alberto Meroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2) Has someone got maxima (gnu maxima) compiled ? I could not have it
> compiled with gcl source package ? Phreaphs someone has a slink binary
> out there ?
I did. It is a little bit tricky, but doable. I compiled it for
potato, so you probably need to compile it yourself for slink
You need to compile gcl first. The problem is, gcl configure uses
emacs in batch mode to determine its directories. however, Debian's
emacs, unlike the regular one produces some diagnostics even with
-batch switch. Because of this, configure gets confused, and
everything goes awry.
Do the following:
1. Unpack the gcl distro in the fresh directory
2. Look at the configure script and find all emacs calls in
it. Substitute them by the values of emacs dirs in your system.
E.g. for me it was the following:
2270,2271c2270,2271
< EMACS_SITE_LISP=unknown
< EMACS_SITE_LISP=`emacs -q -batch -l conftest.el 2>&1 `
---
> EMACS_SITE_LISP=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
> # EMACS_SITE_LISP=`emacs -q -batch -l conftest.el 2>&1 `
2289,2290c2289,2290
< EMACS_DEFAULT_EL=`emacs -q -batch -l conftest.el 2>&1 `
< if test -f "${EMACS_DEFAULT_EL}" ; then true;else
2312,2318c2312,2318
< INFO_DIR=`emacs -q -batch -l conftest.el 2>&1 `
< if test -f "${INFO_DIR}dir" ; then true;else
< if test -f /usr/info/dir ; then
< INFO_DIR=/usr/info/
< else true;
< fi
< fi
---
> #INFO_DIR=`emacs -q -batch -l conftest.el 2>&1 `
> #if test -f "${INFO_DIR}dir" ; then true;else
> #if test -f /usr/info/dir ; then
> INFO_DIR=/usr/local/info/
> #else true;
> #fi
> #fi
3. Then follow READMEs in gcl and maxima distributions.
--
Good luck
-Boris
http://www.plmsc.psu.edu/~boris/
Mirroring
Is there any tool, which could mirror ftp and local directories in both direction? Thanks, Tamas
Motif now Open source (fwd)
This seems appropriate to the KDE in Debain question, and the OpenMotif license thing is bound to come up... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:21:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Motif now Open source On Tue, 16 May 2000, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2000, Iain O'Cain wrote: > > Section 2 of http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ begins by > stating that the terms of the license only apply when OpenMotif is used > with "Open Source" (their definition, from sec.1) operating systems... > > > This certainly seems to me to be in the spirit of many other Open Source > > licenses. > > Ya. I'm not sure how this is different than the GPL not wanting to get > itself bundled with what it considers "non-free" (isn't that the reason > KDE is not in Debian?). No and No. It is close to the spirit of a Open Source license, but not quite there. 8. License Must Not Be Specific to a Product. The rights attached to the program must not depend on the program's being part of a particular software distribution. If the program is extracted from that distribution and used or distributed within the terms of the program's license, all parties to whom the program is redistributed should have the same rights as those that are granted in conjunction with the original software distribution. A similar case is the program "remind" or "reminder". I think it is licensed under the GNU GPL with the exception that it CANNOT be compiled or used on any Microsoft operating systems. With this exception clause, "reminder" is no longer "free" by the "Debian Free Software Guidelines" nor "Open-Source" by the Open Source Definition. You may find "reminder" packaged for Debian, in the "non-free" section, and I suppose Open Motif would go in there too. In the case of KDE and Debian: It is not a problem of bundling; it is a problem of compiling and linking software with incompatible licenses that it would become illegal to distribute KDE v1.x that was linked with qt1.x. I know most other distributions went ahead and packaged KDE v1.x anyway, but the consensus by Debian developers was to play it safe---we could be sued by one or two authors who wrote a GPL'ed software that got included in KDE without their knowledge, and then sue everyone for violating the GPL by linking to qt, yada yada yada. Besides, Debian must uphold the principles of Free Software. :-) The new QPL in qt2.x solves a large part of the problem. Nonetheless, it is still incompatible with GPL, and requires the authors of the original non-KDEized GPL software to add a clause to allow the GPL source to be linked with qt2.x. Some people have already done that, but it is far from complete. Last time I checked the discussion, it seems that some KDE people didn't consider it a problem at all (now that's a problem), and was somewhat lazy and often neglected to contact the upstream authors of such GPL software to add such a clause. There was also some complaints as to why QPL wasn't made GPL-compatible, as it would have saved all these hassles. Anyway, Debian do plan to package KDE2 when it is released, provided the originally GPL code that was included in KDE2 that are linked with qt2.x all have the "Yes, you may link my GPL code with qt2.x" included. It's only a matter of time and getting everyone to cooperate. It will happen eventually. Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: Hmm... what gives with that mail??
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 07:59:01PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] canonicalised to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I use postfix and I suppose it does the same. In the situation where the It does. > lookup fails I suppose postfix appended my domain name even though the host > with such derived name doesn't exist. It's a straight textual substitution. Look at the trivial-rewrite manual page for details. One thing you can do about things like this is to reject unresolvable sender domains (perhaps accepting them from local hosts if you do canonnicalisation or anything for them). > > Even more obvious of the same thing is people who send mail as just > > 'username' which gets canonified as [EMAIL PROTECTED] by each > > recipient. (Spammers do this reasonably often judging from how often > > our users complain about it.) > The original poster apparently used Exim, which does canonicalize local user > names, unless it is misconfigured. Given that his host was called "debian" I strongly suspect that that's all he's got for a hostname. > > Looks like the original sender needs to fix their mail setup to use the > > fqdn. > he, or one of the several relays that lie between him and the outer world... Most of those relays appear to be the same box. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpke8RjPr2eu.pgp Description: PGP signature
