Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
OK getting closer.  I ran--

$ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
fetchmail: Authorization failure on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from mail.inebraska.com
fetchmail: Authentication failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was prompted for a password.  I think what is wrong is fkent isn't 
my username for the isp.  So I tried changing this line--
#   username (or user)-- must be followed by a name

in .fetchmailrc

to--

user xyf

but now I get this error--
$ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
fetchmail:/home/fkent/.fetchmailrc:45: parse error at user

I also tried username --xyf
and user "xyf"

Maybe I have the syntax wrong I will keep looking.
Thanks,
kent


Re: fixing netscape's super ugly fonts..how?

2000-04-10 Thread Armin Wegner
Most web sites are designed for Microsoft. To see them like the author would
like you to see them use Windows fonts. So, install the true type font server
and copy the Windows true type fonts to the appropriet directory.
That's fine.


Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread Mike Werner
On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 07:02:30PM -0500, ktb wrote:
> OK getting closer.  I ran--
> 
> $ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
> Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> fetchmail: Authorization failure on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from mail.inebraska.com
> fetchmail: Authentication failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I was prompted for a password.  I think what is wrong is fkent isn't 
> my username for the isp.  So I tried changing this line--
> #   username (or user)-- must be followed by a name
> 
> in .fetchmailrc
> 
> to--
> 
> user xyf

This look right ...

> but now I get this error--
> $ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
> fetchmail:/home/fkent/.fetchmailrc:45: parse error at user

... but apparently isn't.

> I also tried username --xyf
> and user "xyf"
> 
> Maybe I have the syntax wrong I will keep looking.

So it seems.  Here's the relevant section from my .fetchmailrc:

poll mail.earthlink.net protocol POP3:
user reznaeous
password my_password_was_here;

I would guess that somethings just not quite right with yours.
Perhaps a misplaced : or ; somewhere?  If that doesn't do it
send me a copy of your .fetchmailrc and I'll see if I can spot
what's wrong.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD   |  "Where do you want to go today?"
ICQ# 12934898 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
'91 GS500E|
Morgantown WV |  Only dead fish go with the flow.


Re: no wonder...

2000-04-10 Thread Oki DZ


On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Engelen wrote:
> Apt is cool for web-installs and installing something when you exactly know
> what package you want installed.

If you have the CDs and a web server, you can change your sources.list
to point to the server; then you'd get a web-install environment. 
(I don't have the CDs, but I did the same thing with apt-move; it worked
well. Since apt-move "generates" directories that mirror the CDs, I think 
there shouldn't be any problem with CDs.)
 
> Actually I use Slink-with-a-bit potato. 

OT a bit; do you have any problem with ftp? (PAM to be exact.) I did mix
and match on slink and potato, the ftpd wouldn't work. Then I reinstalled
potato (from floppies), then apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, apt-get
install wu-ftpd, voila, the ftp server worked well. 

Oki



 


Re: Voodoo 2 in Linux

2000-04-10 Thread Oki DZ


On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Cameron Matheson wrote:  
> My friend is thinking about buying a Voodoo 2, but I told him I should
> make sure it will work in Linux.  I had heard that the Voodoo 3 is hard
> to set up in X Windows. Will the Voodoo 2 work?

I think the question should be whether a particular card work on Linux or
not; the setup is not a matter of a single click on the mouse.

Oki
ps: :-)




Re: ppp

2000-04-10 Thread Oki DZ


On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Kerstin Hoef-Emden wrote:
> why does pppconfig save the nameserver entries in a separate file
> /etc/ppp/resolv and not as reported in /etc/resolv.conf? 

So that you can have more than one ISP with different DNS servers; and the
connect scripts would set up /etc/resolv.conf correctly for each
connections.

> Will it cause trouble, I delete the file in /etc/ppp/?

All of them? I think _definitely_ so.

Oki



Mounting root on a diskless using NFS

2000-04-10 Thread david . cureton
Hi All,
With some struggling I have managed to get a diskless workstation
running and requesting the root from the NFS server.
I am now stuck because whatever I do the NFS server blocks the request from
the booting workstation to mount its root.

I have tried many configuration of /etc/exports in an attempt to get it
working however the results are still the same. 
(Yes, I am reloading the NFS daemons after each change)

When the diskless workstation boots it goes through the required hoops and
finally requests to mount /export/root via NFS from my server 'huntsman'.
The request to mount /export/root to 192.168.1.11 (diskless workstation) can
be seen in the output of mountd in the syslog. However the mountd denies the
request due to lack of permissions. I do not understand why.

I am able to mount the /export/root directory to /mnt by hand on as root on
my huntsman machine and it is still accessable rw using the nobody account.
What user/group id does the kernal use when requesting root? Does it use
root user and group ID?

My /etc/exports entry looks as follows:

/export/root192.168.1.11(rw, no_root_squash) huntsman(rw,
no_root_squash)

This is as per the various sources of documentation for diskless booting
however it still does not work.

Thanks in advance,
David


Re: ppp

2000-04-10 Thread John Hasler
> Does that mean, if I have a local network configured with my machine
> being a local nameserver, that it ceases to function as such, when I
> start to dial in? :-/

You can edit the files in /etc/ppp/resolv and add anything you need.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Iomega DITTO drive

2000-04-10 Thread Tom Warfield
I have a Iomega DITTO Drive with the Ditto Dash XJ (Card isnt plugn pray.
its jumpered).  Wondering if anyone has ever gotten this thing to work on
Linux.  Its a piece of junk and i dont recommend it to anyone, but i have it
left over so im wondering if i can get it to work on Linux.


Thanks,
Tom W.


Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
I don't think the last message I sent went through due to me
changing some things in the rc files.  Ayway I will start over.

I changed the "poll" section in .fetchmailrc and now I get:
$ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
8 messages for xyf at mail.inebraska.com (17181 octets).

So it seems I am closer once again but when I try:
$ fetchmail -av mail.inebraska.com to get my mail all I get
back is a command line. 

Here is what I have in .fetchmailrc:

# This is what the developer's .fetchmailrc looks like:

set daemon 300  # Poll at 5-minute intervals

defaults
#   interface "sl0/10.0.2.15"   # SLIRP standard address
#   user esr is esr fetchmail-friends magic-numbers here
fetchall

# Use this for production
poll mail.inebraska.com protocol POP3:
user xyf
password xxx;
-

Thanks,
kent 


Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread Mike Werner
On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 08:54:20PM -0500, ktb wrote:
> I don't think the last message I sent went through due to me
> changing some things in the rc files.  Ayway I will start over.
> 
> I changed the "poll" section in .fetchmailrc and now I get:
> $ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
> 8 messages for xyf at mail.inebraska.com (17181 octets).
> 
> So it seems I am closer once again but when I try:
> $ fetchmail -av mail.inebraska.com to get my mail all I get
> back is a command line. 

Which is, actually, what I think you should be getting ...

> Here is what I have in .fetchmailrc:
> 
> # This is what the developer's .fetchmailrc looks like:
> 
> set daemon 300  # Poll at 5-minute intervals
  
... because of this line.

> defaults
> #   interface "sl0/10.0.2.15"   # SLIRP standard address
> #   user esr is esr fetchmail-friends magic-numbers here
> fetchall
> 
> # Use this for production
> poll mail.inebraska.com protocol POP3:
> user xyf
> password xxx;
> -

I'd bet that if you run 'ps aux | grep fetchmail' you will see a line
something similar to:
mike 17617  0.0  1.1  1676  752 ?S20:48   0:00 fetchmail -d 120

(Note: I run fetchmail a bit differently than you, so it'll most likely
look a bit different on your system.)

The line I marked in your .fetchmailrc says to run fetchmail in daemon
mode.  It won't do anything noticeable right off.  But every 5 minutes
it'll go check every mail server defined in your .fetchmailrc and grab
all of the mail from those servers.  That mail will then end up in your
incoming spool, unless you have done something odd with exim.

To get something more like what you are probably expecting, comment
out the line that says 'set daemon 300', do 'fetchmail --quit', and
then try again.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD   |  "Where do you want to go today?"
ICQ# 12934898 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
'91 GS500E|
Morgantown WV |  Only dead fish go with the flow.


RE: usb keyboard + mouse and xfree86

2000-04-10 Thread ferret


On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Kendall Shaw wrote:

> > From: Ron Rademaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 2:53 AM
> >
> > USB is not supported in the 2.2.x kernels, however it is supported in the
> > 2.3.x (I don't know in any version, but the newer ones support usb). You
> > should try a 2.3 kernel.
> 
> I must have some magic 2.2.14 kernel then, because my usb keyboard works.
> I'm not sure how to test my usb mouse outside of X.

You might have BIOS legacy support turned on. This is a basic
keyboard-only driver (in a few cases, keyboard+ps2 mouse), that interprets
USB keyboard compliant with the USB boot protocol as a standard keyboard
in the super IO controller so the PC keyboard controller can use it.

There is also a "backport" of the 2.3 USB stack to 2.2.1x that has most
things in it (anything for parallel ports isn't, because of some changes
at the kernel level)

Try doing a web search for "linux usb FAQ" and looking for the backport.

> My question is about X. Is there a way to have my usb keyboard at least
> recognized by X? Will upgrading my kernel help me to get my keyboard and
> mouse recognized by X?
> 
> Kendall
> 
> > On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Kendall Shaw wrote:
> >
> > > Do you think it's possible to use usb keyboard + mouse in xfree? The
> > > keyboard and mouse are unresponsive in XF86Config under 3.3.6.
> 
> 
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Re: Simple text screen editor

2000-04-10 Thread Damon Muller
>I need to give a couple of users a simple editor that works
> within a virtual terminal (not X). These people are not really computer
> literate and would have trouble with vi or vim. They would be following
> written instructions to edit a couple of config files. Has anyone any
> suggestions as to a simple editor I could install such that they can
> carry out this task. Ease of use is much more important
> than editing power, hence the requirement to not use vi or vim.

Joe has been mentioned before, and it's also my recomendation. It has
easily accessible online help (which is easy to find and use, unlike
emacs), and does pretty much everything you need it to do.

I also have to deal with someone who isn't terribly unix-savy, but whom
I often have to instruct over the phone (a text-editor is the single
most important tool in unix systems administration, and the only way to
do many important jobs). I gave him a few pointers in using joe, made
him sit down and practice, and now both our lives are a lot easier (vi,
over the phone, is even less fun than vi in person!).

cheers,

damon

-- 
Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /  It's not a sense of humor.
* Criminologist /  It's a sense of irony
* Webmeister   /  disguised as one.
* Linux Geek  / - Bruce Sterling 

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Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
I tried changing to 'fetchmail --quit' but got an error and fetchmail
wouldn't work.  So I changed the daemon number to 3 seconds.  I still get
nothing.  I see nothing in my "/var/spool/mail/fkent" permisions are:
-rw-rw 1 fkent mail

It seems to me if I use the -v flag such as
"fetchmail -v mail.inebraska.com" I should at least see something (the man
page says it writes to stderr) at the command line.  I also tried
"fetchmail -k mail.inebraska.com" to pull the mail off the server but it
doesn't.  The mail is still there.  So I don't know.  Maybe if I had another
1000 lines of man page I could figure this fetchmail stuff out:)
Thanks,
kent


- Original Message -
From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15


> On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 08:54:20PM -0500, ktb wrote:
> > I don't think the last message I sent went through due to me
> > changing some things in the rc files.  Ayway I will start over.
> >
> > I changed the "poll" section in .fetchmailrc and now I get:
> > $ fetchmail -c mail.inebraska.com
> > 8 messages for xyf at mail.inebraska.com (17181 octets).
> >
> > So it seems I am closer once again but when I try:
> > $ fetchmail -av mail.inebraska.com to get my mail all I get
> > back is a command line.
>
> Which is, actually, what I think you should be getting ...
>
> > Here is what I have in .fetchmailrc:
> > 
> > # This is what the developer's .fetchmailrc looks like:
> >
> > set daemon 300  # Poll at 5-minute intervals
>   
> ... because of this line.
>
> > defaults
> > #   interface "sl0/10.0.2.15"   # SLIRP standard address
> > #   user esr is esr fetchmail-friends magic-numbers here
> > fetchall
> >
> > # Use this for production
> > poll mail.inebraska.com protocol POP3:
> > user xyf
> > password xxx;
> > -
>
> I'd bet that if you run 'ps aux | grep fetchmail' you will see a line
> something similar to:
> mike 17617  0.0  1.1  1676  752 ?S20:48   0:00
fetchmail -d 120
>
> (Note: I run fetchmail a bit differently than you, so it'll most likely
> look a bit different on your system.)
>
> The line I marked in your .fetchmailrc says to run fetchmail in daemon
> mode.  It won't do anything noticeable right off.  But every 5 minutes
> it'll go check every mail server defined in your .fetchmailrc and grab
> all of the mail from those servers.  That mail will then end up in your
> incoming spool, unless you have done something odd with exim.
>
> To get something more like what you are probably expecting, comment
> out the line that says 'set daemon 300', do 'fetchmail --quit', and
> then try again.
> --
> Mike Werner  KA8YSD   |  "Where do you want to go today?"
> ICQ# 12934898 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
> '91 GS500E|
> Morgantown WV |  Only dead fish go with the flow.
>
>
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Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread John Hasler
Get rid of the 'daemon' line.  You don't want that: it makes fetchmail go
into the background and poll periodically.  Also, you don't need to specify
the server on the command line when you have it in your .fetchmailrc.  Your
.fetchmailrc is too complicated.  Make it like this:

poll mail.inebraska.com
protocol POP3
user xyf
password xxx

Now just type 'fetchmail -av' .
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Re: usb keyboard + mouse and xfree86

2000-04-10 Thread Gerhard Schromm
* "Kendall" == Kendall Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Do you think it's possible to use usb keyboard + mouse in xfree? The
> keyboard and mouse are unresponsive in XF86Config under 3.3.6.

First, you need the USB-Patch for the 2.2.x Kernel. You can get it
from http://www.linux-usb.org. There is a USB-HOWTO too. Additionally
you should read the Documentation in the kernelsource
(/usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb) after applying the patch.

On my computer an USB mouse works well.

bye Gerhard
-- 
"Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong."
-- Blair Houghton




help 2 probs

2000-04-10 Thread DESTROYERBOOOM!!!



Hi am have Windows and well did have Debian on on 
hard drive.  I installed it with out a problem.  Then I installed my 
pacakegs.  eg: games, firewall, internet, dial up,x windows, typical 
installition or something like that adn then after who knows how long it was 
done.  I logged in and I typed startx to start the x windows then nothing 
it says x windows crash can not somehting x118.  I am not sure if it was 
x118 or x18 it was like that and some other list and locations.  I can not 
start the x windows and I want to.  So then I logged off and logged in as 
root and still same problem how do i get x windows to work correctly.  Part 
2 I have Creative Sound Blaster Live! Value how do I get it 
supported


Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
It is sooo close.  I made the changes John has suggested and now
I get this error when I use "fetchmail -av" --

fetchmail: SMTP< 220 fire.one ESMTP Exim 2.05 #1 Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:55:42 -0500
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-fire.one Hello fkent at localhost [127.0.0.1]
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=670
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
fetchmail: can't even send to fkent!

When I run "fetchmail --version it tells me my .fetchmailrc file is configured
to send mail to "localhost" the manpage says this is the default behavior.  Why 
can't my mail be sent to "localhost"?
Thanks,
kent 


Re: help 2 probs

2000-04-10 Thread Erik Ryberg
> "DESTROYERBOOOM!!!" wrote:
> 
> Hi am have Windows and well did have Debian on on hard drive.  I
> installed it with out a problem.  Then I installed my pacakegs.  eg:
> games, firewall, internet, dial up,x windows, typical installition or
> something like that adn then after who knows how long it was done.  I
> logged in and I typed startx to start the x windows then nothing it
> says x windows crash can not somehting x118.  I am not sure if it was
> x118 or x18 it was like that and some other list and locations.  I can
> not start the x windows and I want to.  So then I logged off and
> logged in as root and still same problem how do i get x windows to
> work correctly.  Part 2 I have Creative Sound Blaster Live! Value how
> do I get it supported


DB-

Did you ever actually install X?  If not, instead of typing "startx" you
need to type "XF86Setup" and if that doesn't work either install the VGA
server via dselect or type "xf86config" to get X running.

If you had X installed previously, try "XF86Setup" at the command prompt
and check out your settings to see what's crashing X.

Erik Ryberg
-- 
Running Debian GNU/Linux
www.GNU.org
www.Debian.org
www.cheapbytes.com


Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
I got it figured out.  I just added --

local_domains = :localhost

to my /etc/exim file.

Thanks to all for your help:)  I have a ways to go but getting there.
kent


- Original Message -
From: ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: fetchmail / s10/10.0.2.15


> It is sooo close.  I made the changes John has suggested and now
> I get this error when I use "fetchmail -av" --
>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 220 fire.one ESMTP Exim 2.05 #1 Sun, 9 Apr 2000
22:55:42 -0500
> fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-fire.one Hello fkent at localhost [127.0.0.1]
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
> fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=670
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by
administrator
> fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by
administrator
> fetchmail: can't even send to fkent!
>
> When I run "fetchmail --version it tells me my .fetchmailrc file is
configured
> to send mail to "localhost" the manpage says this is the default behavior.
Why can't my mail be sent to "localhost"?
> Thanks,
> kent
>
>
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Questions about Debian

2000-04-10 Thread Lachlan Robinson

To whom it may concern,
I am considering using Debian on my computer, but I have a question, is 
Debian a GUI (Graphical User Interface)?  I have installed and are using the 
'basic' installation (from the 7 1.44 meg images), and it resembles an 
x-term or DOS environment, and I was wondering (before I download the rest) 
if the rest of the package has some GUI features.

Thankyou for your time!
Lachlan Robinson.
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Re: apache_1.3.9-12_i386.deb

2000-04-10 Thread Marek Andricik
On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 08:51:43PM +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote:
>
> I guess you should use cgi-bin to store al your cgi's, you can set which
> one to use in /etc/apache/
> Ron
 
Well, this is a workaround, not solution of the problem.

Marek
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+:||<>||:><||:-[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://oko.fei.tuke.sk/~andricik
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  [//.3]


OT: Video cards? Creating Athlon Debian box..

2000-04-10 Thread kaynjay
I'm putting together my first machine (upgrading from a 486, so it should be
interesting :) and have trouble deciding on a video card.  I thought 3dfx
was supposed to be a good choice (looking at the 3000), as was Matrox (the
G400).  But older posts on the archives seem to indicate trouble with both
(or at least _references_ to trouble).  

NVidia (sp?) was mentioned as a possibility, but I didn't know it was
supported well.

I hope people don't mind the poll. I honestly am at a bit of a loss with all
the new stuff I'm discovering out there, and want to make a good match with
Debian.  

Thanks for any input!

Kenward Vaughan

ps. My work will involve molecular modeling imagery, with VRML quite likely a 
part of that. Certainly 2D, but I don't know about 3D.  Any games are likely
under Winblows for my kids (until I find out about Descent under Linux.. ;-)


Anyone using the ConTeX package in tetex? Is broken?

2000-04-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
I've been trying to figure out the ConTeX package in TeX and I ran into
a few troubles. First, it wasn't even enabled or built -- so I had to
edit the config files and then build it. But it's still missing some set
up files. When I run LaTeX on anything, I now get this warning:

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex
loading : Context Support Macros / Missing

which  doesn't seem to matter generally.  But the real bummer is
trying to run texexec --output=pdf  and alot of things are
placed badly (I'm using a bunch of sample.tex files from the ConTeX
folks -- so you'd think they'd work!). It's seems to not have all of the
definition files needed to properly handle things.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone else on this list is using it.

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» ing·email·messages.



Re: Questions about Debian

2000-04-10 Thread Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong
You need to download the X server to get a GUI.

Marshal

> "Lachlan" == Lachlan Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> To whom it may concern, I am considering using Debian on my
> computer, but I have a question, is Debian a GUI (Graphical User
> Interface)?  I have installed and are using the 'basic'
> installation (from the 7 1.44 meg images), and it resembles an
> x-term or DOS environment, and I was wondering (before I
> download the rest) if the rest of the package has some GUI
> features.  Thankyou for your time!  Lachlan Robinson.
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> Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com


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Re: Mounting root on a diskless using NFS

2000-04-10 Thread Tolga KILICLI

We had your problem with our diskless clients too. 
This could be due to these ;

- We tried /remote/xw1, /remote/xw2 etc. to export but all were
denied. I don't know why when we changed /remote with /tftpboot all of our
problems were gone. 

- For the client part also you have to compile a new kernel with enabling
NFS options.

tk.
--
(If these did not work, and you find the problem please mail me)

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All,
>   With some struggling I have managed to get a diskless workstation
> running and requesting the root from the NFS server.
> I am now stuck because whatever I do the NFS server blocks the request from
> the booting workstation to mount its root.
> 
> I have tried many configuration of /etc/exports in an attempt to get it
> working however the results are still the same. 
> (Yes, I am reloading the NFS daemons after each change)
> 
> When the diskless workstation boots it goes through the required hoops and
> finally requests to mount /export/root via NFS from my server 'huntsman'.
> The request to mount /export/root to 192.168.1.11 (diskless workstation) can
> be seen in the output of mountd in the syslog. However the mountd denies the
> request due to lack of permissions. I do not understand why.
> 
> I am able to mount the /export/root directory to /mnt by hand on as root on
> my huntsman machine and it is still accessable rw using the nobody account.
> What user/group id does the kernal use when requesting root? Does it use
> root user and group ID?
> 
> My /etc/exports entry looks as follows:
> 
> /export/root  192.168.1.11(rw, no_root_squash) huntsman(rw,
> no_root_squash)
> 
> This is as per the various sources of documentation for diskless booting
> however it still does not work.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> David
> 
> 
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Re: Documentation for Newbies (was: win and linux)

2000-04-10 Thread Serkan Ýnci
Hi Joe,

thank you very much for your suggestions...

- Original Message -
From: Joe Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 4:52 PM
Subject: Documentation for Newbies (was: win and linux)


> On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 03:43:22PM +0300, Serkan ?nci wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > I'm too new for linux and loaded to my computer linux yesterday. However
I want to use my old O.S.(windows 95) too but now I can only use linux. How
can I use linux and windows together. I have got some documnets but I
coludn't find any satisfactory answer. I added something to lilo.conf but
there is no change. I know this question is very simple for you but any
solution or reference to a document will be very good for me...
>
> /* answer this specific question */
>
> When you change lilo.conf, you must run the program /sbin/lilo to take
> the changes you made and write them to the boot sector.  You didn't say
> if you did that, but if not, that is probably your problem.
>
> /* begin newbie documentation lesson */
>
> As a linux newbie, you may not realize it, but the answer to 90% of all
> your questions is already on your computer.  Seriously.  The only only
> answers that aren't there are the brand new ones (like what driver do I
> use for some card which just came out last month).  Lilo has been around
> as long as linux, and the rules for lilo don't change much.
> Furthermore, you probably got the documentation for the version of
> software you installed, so you may have better documentation than anyone
> else.  Therefore you should really get in the habit of looking for this
> stuff yourself.  Personally, I feel a great deal of pride in finding my
> own answers.  This is pretty arbitrary, but I figure if I have read
> documentation for at least 4 hours and I still can't find an answer,
> then it's time to post a question.
>
> Places to look:
> - cd /usr/doc and do an "ls".  Wow, look at it all.  There is a
>   directory for almost each package you installed.  Usually, this is a
>   very good place to look, but now always.  Some distributions (I'm on
>   Debian Slink) use a different location than /usr/doc.
>
> - the "man" pages.  There are millions of them. If you think there is a
>   man page out there but can't find it, try "man -k ".
>
> - the "info" pages.  There are a lot of these too.  The info program is
>   a browser of sorts.
>
> - There are "HOWTO" and "MINI-HOWTO" documents all over the place. Some
>   documentation is stored in html files.  Locate will help you find them.
>
> - "locate" - On windows you have the ability to "find files".  You can
>   do that on linux too.  In both cases it scans the entire disk, and
>   takes a few seconds.  On linux, though, there is a scheduled cron job
>   that runs (usually in middle of the night) which scans the entire disk
>   and makes a "locate database".  At that point you can type "locate
>   lilo" and it will show you all the files with the phrase "lilo" in them.
>   It's case sensitive, so try "locate lilo Lilo LILO", and in my case it
>   shows a nice file called /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LILO.gz
>   which I can view with "zmore /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LILO.gz"
>   The job that runs at night is called "updatedb".  If you try locate
>   and just get some error message, then it's because updatedb hasn't run
>   yet on your new system.  Run "updatedb" as root (it takes a few
>   minutes) and then locate should work fine.
>
> - Buy a decent book.  This simple statement can spark many hours of
>   debate regarding which books are best, but I won't go there today.
>
> - Poke around at http://www.debian.org  There is documentation out there
>   also.  Typically it's the same stuff that is on your disk but it's
>   worth a shot.
>
> - Web search.  I like http://www.google.com (no need to start a debate
>   here either), and you will find more documents and lessons learned.
>
> Hope that helps.  I'm sure other people have other sources of
> information.
>
> --
>
> Thank you,
> Joe Bouchard
>
> Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
>


Re: Linux only sees half my RAM

2000-04-10 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> Maybe if you would the question u would see that I dont use lilo.
if you would look closer at my answer, then you would discover some irony
in it ...
> I tried adding it to loadlin and that didn't work. 
hmm - that's bad. if even that does not work, then ... ** sorry ...

greetings

> > > ok, First let me say that I do NOT use lilo so don't tell me edit
> > > lilo.conf. I boot with loadlin, have 128mb of RAM but Linux sees only 64mb
> > > of it. When I type "free" it says:
> > > 
> > let's start a competition: the most asked FAQ  :-)=)
> > RTFM!  *g*
> > ... or just add mem=128M to your lilo.conf - ehhhmm (*eg*) --- 
> > loadlin command line.

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Re: PLIP configuration

2000-04-10 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:28:59 CDT:

> I am looking to use PLIP to network 2 machines together.
> I'm running kernel 2.2.14, and have the PLIP module available, along with the
> other obvious modules like TCP/IP, firewalling, etc.
> 
> However, upon modprobe plip, i get the error:
> /lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy

Before you load the module you need to echo the IRQ that it is to use 
in /proc/parport/0/irq

I do this with my debian box to my slackware box and it works quite 
nicely.  I have included my simple 'plip' script that I wrote to handle 
it.  It is not the most robust, but it gets the interface up.  Feel 
free to tweak it at your leisure. :-)

Andy
#!/bin/sh

case $1 in
start)
if ! ifconfig | grep plip > /dev/null
then
echo -n "Starting IP over parallel: "
if ! lsmod | grep parport > /dev/null
then
modprobe parport_pc
fi
echo "7" > /proc/parport/0/irq
modprobe plip
echo -n "plip"
ifconfig plip0 192.168.1.3 pointopoint 192.168.1.1
route add default gw 192.168.1.1
echo "."
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping IP over parallel: "
ifconfig plip0 down
echo -n "plip"
rmmod plip
echo "."
;;
*)
echo "plip start|stop"
;;
esac

exit 0

+== Andy == TiK: garbaglio ==+
|Linux is about freedom of choice|
+== http://www.xmission.com/~bradipo/ ===+


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Help with GDM

2000-04-10 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
I've just upgrade from Debian 2.1 to unstable, and i have
everything working except gdm. X comes up, and i can see that
/etc/gdm/Init/Default is being run because the xsetroot command
there turns the background blue, but this script does not
complete because the xterm it's supposed to run never appears.
Then X dies. This happens about 5 more times, and then i'm left
with X running, along with my xterm and gdmlogin. gdm is no
longer running at this point. gdmlogin reads in my username and
password, but then disappears, but both X and the xterm are still
running. I have to ctrl-alt-backspace it.

Attached are the relevant parts of /var/log/syslog and the only
two files i've modified from the default debian install,
/etc/gdm/Init/Default and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.

-- 
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"Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now.
 Buy. And be happy."
--OMM (THX 1138)
#!/bin/sh
xterm&

/usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid "#00"
[daemon]
Chooser=/usr/bin/gdmchooser --disable-sound --disable-crash-dialog
DefaultPath=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
DisplayInitDir=/etc/gdm/Init
Greeter=/usr/bin/gdmlogin --disable-sound --disable-crash-dialog
Group=gdm
HaltCommand=/sbin/shutdown -h now "Halted from gdm menu."
KillInitClients=0
LogDir=/var/log/gdm
PidFile=/var/run/gdm.pid
PostSessionScriptDir=/etc/gdm/PostSession
PreSessionScriptDir=/etc/gdm/PreSession
RebootCommand=/sbin/shutdown -r now "Rebooted from gdm menu."
RootPath=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games
ServAuthDir=/var/lib/gdm
SessionDir=/etc/gdm/Sessions
User=gdm
UserAuthDir=
UserAuthFBDir=/tmp
UserAuthFile=.Xauthority

[security]
AllowRoot=0
RelaxPermissions=0
RetryDelay=0
UserMaxFile=65536
VerboseAuth=0

[xdmcp]
Enable=0
HonorIndirect=0
MaxPending=4
MaxPendingIndirect=4
MaxSessions=16
MaxWait=30
MaxWaitIndirect=30
Port=177

[gui]
GtkRC=
MaxIconWidth=128
MaxIconHeight=128

[greeter]
Browser=1
DefaultFace=/usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png
DefaultLocale=english
Exclude=root,bin,daemon,adm,lp,sync,shutdown,halt,mail,news,uucp,operator,nobody,alias,backup,games,gnats,irc,list,majordom,man,msql,postgres,proxy,qmaild,qmaill,qmailp,qmailq,qmailr,qmails,sys,www-data,sashroot,mp3,ftp,identd,rwhod,telnetd,gdm
Font=-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-*-*
GlobalFaceDir=/usr/share/faces
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/gdm.xpm
LocaleFile=/etc/locale.alias
Logo=/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-large.png
Quiver=1
# set SystemMenu to 1 if you want to reboot/shutdown without logging in
SystemMenu=1
Welcome=Welcome to %n

[chooser]
DefaultHostImg=/usr/share/pixmaps/nohost.png
HostImageDir=/usr/share/hosts
ScanTime=3

[debug]
Enable=1

[servers]
0=/usr/bin/X11/X
# this second line starts up :1 on vt8
# 1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 


Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_main: Here we go...
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_local_servers_start: Starting :0
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: :0
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access 
for :0
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up socket 
access
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up network 
access
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access 
for :0 - 2 entries
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[382]: gdm_server_start: '/usr/bin/X11/X -auth 
/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth :0'
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_usr1_handler: Starting display :0!
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Managing :0
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Forked slave: 383
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_start: Starting slave process for :0
Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_start: Opening display :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_greeter: Running greeter on :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_greeter: Greeter on pid 389
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_handler: child 383 returned 0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_handler: :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_action: Slave process returned 0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: Old server found (382). 
Killing.
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_stop: Server for :0 going down!
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access 
for :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up socket 
access
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up network 
access
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access 
for :0 - 2 entries
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[390]: gdm_server_start: '/usr/bin/X11/X -auth 
/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth :0'
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_usr1_handler: Starting display :0!
Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Managing :0
Apr 10 02:19:58 t

Re: Help with GDM

2000-04-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 02:35:45AM -0500, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> I've just upgrade from Debian 2.1 to unstable, and i have
> everything working except gdm. X comes up, and i can see that
> /etc/gdm/Init/Default is being run because the xsetroot command
> there turns the background blue, but this script does not
> complete because the xterm it's supposed to run never appears.

What xterm? There shouldn't be any xterm until after you've logged in
(if your ~/.xsession starts one). Are you talking about xconsole? It's
not running here with a mostly default GDM setup.

> Then X dies. This happens about 5 more times, and then i'm left
> with X running, along with my xterm and gdmlogin. gdm is no
> longer running at this point. gdmlogin reads in my username and
> password, but then disappears, but both X and the xterm are still
> running. I have to ctrl-alt-backspace it.

I suspect a deeper X problem first. Kill gdm and make sure X works.

> Attached are the relevant parts of /var/log/syslog and the only
> two files i've modified from the default debian install,
> /etc/gdm/Init/Default and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.

>From your syslog, it looks like gdm is respawning over and over. You
don't have it running from /etc/inittab do you? You don't also have xdm
running on the same VT do you?


Re: Help with GDM

2000-04-10 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 12:58:07AM -0700,
Eric G . Miller  wrote:
> What xterm? There shouldn't be any xterm until after you've logged in

Sorry, should've been more clear. For testing purposes, i started
an xterm from /etc/gdm/Init/Default.

> I suspect a deeper X problem first. Kill gdm and make sure X works.

X works just fine from xdm or startx.

> >From your syslog, it looks like gdm is respawning over and over. You
> don't have it running from /etc/inittab do you? You don't also have xdm
> running on the same VT do you?

Yes, it seems to be respawning after dying. I just can't figure
out why it's dying. xdm is not even installed; gdm conflicts with
it.

Thanks for the speedy response.

-- 
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"Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now.
 Buy. And be happy."
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reselling and distributing

2000-04-10 Thread root
Dear sirs,

we are company from Lithuania and the are looking for new products to our 
market.

We are very interested in Linux operating systems and software for it.

PLease contact us via e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or telephone : +370 87 89 417

PLease send us your full catalogue with prices, discounts, and license 
conditions.

We are looking forvar to hearing your quick answer soon.


Yours sincerely,

Gintaras Juska

Managing Director


Re: password

2000-04-10 Thread kmself
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 04:47:40PM -0700, Beavis wrote:
> how do u change passwords?

Generally for information on how to do something, try the apropos
command, with a keyword:

   apropos password

...will list password-related commands.

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Re: Ted RTF editor

2000-04-10 Thread kmself
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:47:19AM -0700, Davina Armstrong wrote:
> Do any of you use Ted, the RTF editor?  I'm researching using it as a
> basis for a project, and I'm interested in any feedback you might have.
> As I do not subscribe to this mailing list, please cc: me on your
> responses.

What are your concerns and requirements?  I've used ted, though I don't
particularly care for WYSYWYG or RTF.

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Re: apache_1.3.9-12_i386.deb

2000-04-10 Thread Robert Varga


On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Marek Andricik wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have the problem with the apache_1.3.9-12_i386.deb package. Before the 
> latest
> upgrade I did not experienced the problem. I have .cgi programs in directories
> which are directly there or symlinked. 
> 
> After upgrade .cgi programs stopped working. In the error logfile there is 
> this
> error message. 
> 
> [Sun Apr  9 18:16:43 2000] [error] [client 194.145.136.134] Premature end of 
> scr
> ipt headers: /home/andricik/public_html/works/test.cgi

Do you have suexec enabled? (It is enabled by setting it suid, and is
located at /usr/lib/apache[-ssl]/suexec . If it is, and I usually get
error messages like that when suexec rejects the cgi, then you can look at
its quite explaining error messages in /var/log/apache[-ssl]/suexec.log

You should either do things according to what suexec expects, or disable
suexec.

Robert Varga


New Install causes reboot

2000-04-10 Thread Jim Foltz



Hello,
 
I am trying to install Debian potato on my PC. 
Before the past weekend, it was already running Debian potato, but I decided I 
didn't like the way my HD was partitioned, so I re-partitioned and now I can't 
get the Linux kernel to boot.
 
I have tried the boot set from potato, slink, an 
old slackware cd, and even tried a kernel from tomsrtbt, but no joy. I even 
tried DiLinux from an old Debian 1.2 cd.
 
What happens is this: almost as soon as the kernel 
boots, it detects my memory, then it gives a general proection fault and 
displays some debugging information (stack trace, register dump) and locks up 
completely. Pushing the reset button does work. This happens with all the 
kernels I tried, although the error messages were different.
 
I checked my BIOS settings for something unusual, 
but I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Besides, this machine 
was already running potato.
 
I couldn't find an answer searching google.com or 
deja.com. 
 
So, What next?
 


RE: reselling and distributing

2000-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Dear Sir/Madam

Linux is free, almost every item of software is free.  There are no charges 
for the operating system.

Licensing - you can not charge more than a nominal fee for a disk/cd/tape - 
I don't think there has ever been a maximum price suggested, but if you're 
charging more than twice the media cost for a CD full of stuff available 
for no charge on the net - then something is awray.

Please don't send email messages ad-hock - its called spam, and gives you a 
*very* bad name.

(cc'd to the list cos it might start a topic)

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Sent:   Monday, 10 April 2000 8:58 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:reselling and distributing

Dear sirs,

we are company from Lithuania and the are looking for new products to our 
market.

We are very interested in Linux operating systems and software for it.

PLease contact us via e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or telephone : +370 87 89 417

PLease send us your full catalogue with prices, discounts, and license 
conditions.

We are looking forvar to hearing your quick answer soon.


Yours sincerely,

Gintaras Juska

Managing Director


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Re: fixing netscape's super ugly fonts..how?

2000-04-10 Thread kmself
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 02:14:52AM +0200, Armin Wegner wrote:
> Most web sites are designed for Microsoft. To see them like the author would
> like you to see them use Windows fonts. So, install the true type font server
> and copy the Windows true type fonts to the appropriet directory.
> That's fine.

While this helps, it doesn't address all issues, particularly WRT font
sizing.  Many websites render fonts which are simply too small to be
easily read under NS/Linux.

To fix this, and some related Netscape brain damage, create a file
/etc/X11/Xresources/netscape, with the following lines:

# Restrict the range of size increments allowed by 
# directives to 
# the range 80% - 120% rather than 50% - 210%.  Default increment is 20.
# KMSelf Wed Dec 29 15:47:57 PST 1999
Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement:   05

# Clean up the fscking toolbar
Netscape*toolBar.search.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.destinations.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.myshopping.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.viewSecurity.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.print.isEnabled: true
Netscape*toolBar.home.isEnabled: true

# And some other brain damage
Netscape*useStdoutDialog: false
Netscape*useStderrDialog: false
Netscape*noAboutSplash: true

# Fonts -- dialogs and such
Netscape*attachmentProps*XmLabelGadget.fontList: fixed
Netscape*AddressBook*mainform.fontList:  fixed 
Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:   fixed
Netscape*attachItemLabel*fontList:   fixed
Netscape*prefs*fontList: fixed
Netscape*statusBar*fontList: fixed

# Document fonts -- scaling doesn't appear to take effect w/ TTF fonts
Netscape*documentFonts.defaultFont*iso-8859-1.prop:
-ttf-garamond-120-noscale   

Netscape*documentFonts.defaultFont*iso-8859-1.fixed: -ttf-courier
new-90-noscale


...the file is modified from /usr/lib/netscape/461/netscape/Netscape.ad

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Help installing Netscape

2000-04-10 Thread J. Hartzelbuck
Dear friends,

I have hesitated to ask this simple question here, but after quite along
time, my head is sore from banging it against the wall . . .

Several problems:

   * I  downloaded 16 MB  from
 
ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicaotr/english/4.72/unix/supported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/

 communicator-v472-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz
   * At least it was close to that!
   * I waited for it to ask me where it would put it, having read that
 it should go into /tmp. It didn't ask, just started coming at me,
 so I left it alone. All night.
   * Now I can't find it. I've tried locate with lots of permutations,
 but to no avail. Where are things put by default? Is it possible
 there was a problem with the dl, and that it isn't here?
   * I have read with interest the messages to newbies about using the
 help before writing messages like this, but I actually need more
 help before I can make us of the help. when I go to /usr/doc and do
 ls, I do see all the help, but I don't know how to open it.

Another question:

   * I have installed Gnome/Enlightenment. Maybe. I have a terminal
 window glued to the upper left corner of the screen that I can't
 figure out how to minimize or banish.
   * There are almost no apps available. Do I need to install things
 like a word processor and a spreadsheet separately? They aren't
 part of Gnome?

That's plenty for now!

Thanks you so much.

-- Chris Joyner


Two modems

2000-04-10 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
Hi!

I have two modems and I want to increase my bandwidth.

There are some way to share Internet trafic through two ppp interfaces?

Thanks,
Camilo Alejadro
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Re: apache_1.3.9-12_i386.deb

2000-04-10 Thread Marek Andricik
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 11:32:40AM +0200, Robert Varga wrote:
> 
> Do you have suexec enabled? (It is enabled by setting it suid, and is
> located at /usr/lib/apache[-ssl]/suexec . If it is, and I usually get
> error messages like that when suexec rejects the cgi, then you can look at
> its quite explaining error messages in /var/log/apache[-ssl]/suexec.log
> 
> You should either do things according to what suexec expects, or disable
> suexec.

No, it's not suid.

2 the /home/andricik % l /usr/lib/apache/suexec 
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 9916 Oct 31 04:47 /usr/lib/apache/suexec* 

I have never had it enabled. The machine is mine at home and I don't need
suexec there. But when I get the "premature end of headers" message it at 
least means that apache started the script. 

Well, at the moment I have 1.3.9-10 version installed so it works for me and
I can work on my cgi. I just wanted to point that there are some problems with
1.3.9-12 and before filling bug report I wanted to consult it here, if somebody
else also experience the same problem. 

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Re: running shell in emacs

2000-04-10 Thread Jesse Jacobsen
Hi Sven,

On 04/09/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] addressed "running shell in emacs":
> I've got a problem with emacs. When I run "M-x shell" all escape characters
> for setting colors in ls are expanded. That looks a little strange...  I'm
> running potato and emacs 20, my shell is bash.

Try M-x term instead.  Or, when you use M-x shell, make your first command
"unalias ls" to turn the colors off.

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boot prob

2000-04-10 Thread pplaw
debs,

my only stable lapbox won't boot slink anymore.   (i hit the off
button before a complete "halt" was achieved--( a bonehead move,
i know)).here's the last portion of the script before it
hangs:

/dev/had5 was not cleanly unmounted; check forced.

/dev/hda5: unattached inode 370715

/dev/hda5: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY;  RUN fsck Manually.
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed.  Please repair manually and reboot.  Please note
that the root filse system is currently mounted read-only.  To
remount it read-write:


# mount -n -o remount, rw /

 CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and REBOOT the system.

Give root password for maintenance (or type Control -D for
normal Startup):

//

from there,  i log in as root and type "fsck," i'm prompted to
run "e2fsck."when i do, i get this message:

e2fsck 1.12, 9-Jul-98 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
Using EXT2FS Library version 1.12, 9-Jul-98.

//

at this point, i'm stumped.  but my suspicion is that inode
370715 (whatever that is) needs attention.

can anyone please help?

ia, t.

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Re: boot prob

2000-04-10 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> from there,  i log in as root and type "fsck," i'm prompted to
> run "e2fsck."when i do, i get this message:
> 
> e2fsck 1.12, 9-Jul-98 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> Using EXT2FS Library version 1.12, 9-Jul-98.
> 
> //
> 
> at this point, i'm stumped.  but my suspicion is that inode
> 370715 (whatever that is) needs attention.
> 
ehhhmmm ... did you specify the partition to check?
you must use "fsck /dev/hda5"

an inode is the data stucture, which holds information about a
file. after pressing "y" on all question from fsck you'll find the file
#370715 in the /lost+found directory (relative to the mount point of
hda5). look, if it is something useful, if yes, then save it to a sensible
location, if not, delete it.

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Re: Java IDE

2000-04-10 Thread John Stevenson
You could try using the Blackdown JDK from www.blackdown.org, get the Release
Candidate 4  (RC4), this uses native threads and has the sun JIT compiler in it.
This make a noticable improvement of speed on my machine.

It seems to work fine with all Java apps I have tried, with the exception of 
Together
from Object International which doesnt like the JIT when running and doesnt like
native threads when installing.

Johnny.

Martin Bishop wrote:

> Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have you ever run Forte on Debian systems? I have looked at it on Sun's
> > website. The doc says that to run it you'd need a powerful system (P.
> > III). The IDE is distributed on .rpm format, the size is about 9M. I was
> > wondering whether Forte would eat up so much CPU power; does it so? Any
> > experience with it? Any hope to run it on P 133?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Oki
>
> Hi Oki,
>
> I've tried Forte on a Celeron 450 with 128MB using Sun's
> JDK 1.2.2 and it is slooow.
>
> On WinXX it is much better, still a bit slow, but you can
> work comfortably.
>
> If you must use a Java IDE in Linux, may I suggest JBuilder.
> It's a bit faster than Forte.
>
> MB.
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Re: reselling and distributing

2000-04-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
"C. Falconer" wrote:
  >Please don't send email messages ad-hock - its called spam, and gives you a 
  >*very* bad name.
  >
  >(cc'd to the list cos it might start a topic)
 
I don't think an enquiry like this is spam.  Spam is unwanted advertising,
whereas this is a relevant enquiry, even though it is not the correct list
for it.



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Re: Help installing Netscape

2000-04-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
"J. Hartzelbuck" wrote:
  >Dear friends,
  >
  >I have hesitated to ask this simple question here, but after quite along
  >time, my head is sore from banging it against the wall . . .
  >
  >Several problems:
  >
  >   * I  downloaded 16 MB  from
  > ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicaotr/english/4.72/unix/supported/linux20_g
  >libc2/complete_install/
  >
  > communicator-v472-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz
  >   * At least it was close to that!
  >   * I waited for it to ask me where it would put it, having read that
  > it should go into /tmp. It didn't ask, just started coming at me,
  > so I left it alone. All night.
  >   * Now I can't find it. I've tried locate with lots of permutations,
  > but to no avail. Where are things put by default? Is it possible
  > there was a problem with the dl, and that it isn't here?

You don't say which ftp program you used. The following applies to ftp run
from a command line.

If you start an ftp download, the file will go into your current directory. 
(However, you can change current directory inside ftp, if you want.)



If you can't remember where you were, try this command (and wait a while for it
to run):

 find / -name communicator-v472-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz 2>
/dev/null

  >   * I have read with interest the messages to newbies about using the
  > help before writing messages like this, but I actually need more
  > help before I can make us of the help. when I go to /usr/doc and do
  > ls, I do see all the help, but I don't know how to open it.
  
Under /usr/doc are directories for each package.  Inside are many kinds
of file, but most frequently they are plain text, compressed text (file names
end with .gz) and HTML files.  For HTML, use lynx (or netscape, once you find 
it)
For others, use zless.

To find out how to use particular commands, use `man command'.

Some commands (such as bash, ftp, gdb and nslookup) have interactive help 
inside
them.  With these, you can type `help' and get a list of possible actions.

  >Another question:
  >
  >   * I have installed Gnome/Enlightenment. Maybe. I have a terminal
  > window glued to the upper left corner of the screen that I can't
  > figure out how to minimize or banish.
  >   * There are almost no apps available. Do I need to install things
  > like a word processor and a spreadsheet separately? They aren't
  > part of Gnome?

There are lots of Gnome-related packages, that need to be installed separately.

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bootup message and ppp

2000-04-10 Thread Kerstin Hoef-Emden

Hi!

What does the message "S30.serial: Permission denied" during bootup 
mean?

The ppp dial-in is still unreliable. Usually the first attempt fails,
but sometimes the following attempt does not work either. Communication
with the serial interface seems to work, but sometimes it does not
establish the connection and sometimes it keeps on negociating with the
other side unsuccessully and shuts down the line.
I used the same settings as in RedHat, but the RedHat-ppp works without
problem. First shot - and you are online. There I use a ppp-up and a
chatscript and shut the line down with a killall pppd. 
What might be the problem? Once the connection is settled, it seems to
be stable.


Regards,

Kerstin



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Re: Sound problem after upgrading to woody

2000-04-10 Thread Florian Bartels
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:

> :: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 18:47:28 +0200, Florian Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> said:
> 
> > I' have installed a new woody some time ago but I have the same
> > problem now.
> > (it worked fine for a long time)
> 
> Did you upgrade some gnome, enlightenment or sound packages? If you
> did, then this could be a bug... (Or not?)
> 
I don't know really but I think I have updated some sound packages, I' m not 
using Gnome and I selfcompiled enlightenment (from CVS). 

I have tested know playing the same sound file with esd and without. And
it doesnt play correctly, if I use esd(play)

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Re: slink and /usr/share/man/

2000-04-10 Thread John Kuhn
I made the following changes in /etc/manpath.conf
   MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/man
   MANDB_MAP   /usr/share/man  /var/catman/share

I did not add a MANPATH_MAP for this.  This has worked for me.

John Kuhn

On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 10:20:08AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> My RTFM-ing would seem to indicate that /etc/manpath.config is the
> proper place. The MANDATORY_MANPATH mapping is obvious, but I'm
> concerned about the MANPATH_MAP mapping. There are no many-to-one
> mappings in the current file. Is it proper to have both the following
> lines?
> 
> MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/man
> MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/share/man
> 
> And what to do about /var/catman/ ?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Pann
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> 


svga modes

2000-04-10 Thread Mark Small

Yesterday I tried using vga=ask as a bootup option (from loadlin) and chose a 
different video mode (80x28 instead of 80x25).  It looked fine when I was 
booting, but after I switched from a x (auto started with XDM) to a VT, I was 
back in standard text mode.  Also, I couldn't see the bottom three
lines of text, so the VT thought that there were 28 lines on my console.  Is 
there a configuration option that I missed, or is this a problem with my X 
server?

My system:

Debian 2.1r5 + xfree from www.debian.org/~vincent
Hercules Thriller 3D 4MB PCI (Rendition V2200)
P233 MMX w/ 96MB Ram


Mark


Re: [*] GDB question

2000-04-10 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Zhang, 

On 10 Apr 2000, maths wrote:

> by the way, where can i find good tutorial of GDB?
> 

IMHO the info pages provide a pretty good introduction to gdb.
But there may be far better documentation about it somewhere on the web.

Regards,
Daniel


Re: Do I need modify lilo.conf after install new kernel image ?

2000-04-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Alex Kwan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> After I using dpkg -i to install kernel image
> (kernel-image-2.2.14-ide_2.2.14-3.deb),
> Do I need modify the /etc/lilo.conf to config the system to use this new
> kernel?

Only if the parameters are now wrong, and need changing.

What *is* important is that you run lilo even if you don't change
/etc/lilo.conf (which may not be obvious at first sight). The
contents of the boot sector have to be changed for the new kernel's
location at the very least.

Cheers,

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Re: want only 1 lp

2000-04-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Kenneth Scharf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I've posted this question before, but the digest lists
> went down for a few weeks before I could get any
> answers to this question.
> 
> I have 3 lp cards in my computer at dos addresses
> lpt1, lpt2, and lpt3.  I only want the one at lpt1 to
> be attached to the lp driver(s).  I want the other two
> ports free for my own software.  I am running potato
> now, the options entered for the modules in slink
> don't work here, on boot up the initial feedback shows
> all three lpt ports being grabbed by the lp driver
> nomatter what I've tried.  Something is different in
> 2.2.x I think.

You could reserve the addresses with a kernel parameter.

> Any ideas out there?  I will be writting my own driver
> to talk to the other two ports. One for a home brew
> prom burner, the other for an 8052 ICE that was
> written up in byte some years ago. 

Once they're written, you could load them earlier than lp,
in which case the addresses will have been used up.

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Re: welcome

2000-04-10 Thread sauer
Was soll diese SCHEISSE?

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Re: apt-get and personal data

2000-04-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Does it mean that if I want to download software -- like Sybase or Oracle,
> dev. version -- from the Internet in which I have to provide my personal
> information on their websites, basically the procedure is unlawful. Or
> there _is_ a difference between putting information on a website (via HTML
> forms) and in a local file (?). Eventually the data will be put in the
> websites, but according to the law, the second one is basically wrong.
> Or it just means that the Europeans are just weird (this would be
> surprising for me, indeed).

Any legal advice from me would be worthless, so it's pointless
prolonging this thread here. The developers may or may not have
discussed these issues elsewhere.

In Britain it is enough to know that the handling of personal data,
by computer or otherwise, is regulated, and registration is required.
Unless you're involved in doing it, that knowledge is just about
sufficient to avoid breaking the law.

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apt-get error ("Couldn't configure a pre-depend")

2000-04-10 Thread Chris
Hi, this is my first post (fresh-off-the-farm newbie).  Hope someone can
help.

I'm trying to upgrade from slink to the latest unstable using apt-get
dist-upgrade, and
after a 180MB download (14 hours!) I got this error message:

"E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend."

What does this mean, and how can I fix it (or better yet, where can read
up on it)?
I have a few slink-jp packages installed as well.  Could these be
messing things up...?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!  :-)


Dial on demand (pppd, diald, ???)

2000-04-10 Thread Manuel Zabelt
ello!

I managed to get pppoe working, so I can uses ADSL.

Now i want to use the demand option of pppd or the diald. 

Can anyone helb me getting one of these two progs to work?
I think diald is what I need.
I need a programm, that creates a dummy-networkdevice (e.g. sl0)
and listens an this device. If something wants to connect to somewhere
with the help of this device (the default route will be set to sl0) then
I want diald just to start a tiny programm. 
The programm does all the rest.

thanks

manu


Re: /etc/gateways

2000-04-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Kent Nyberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I just found the file "/etc/gateways" in my debian slink system.
> What is that file for?

man gateways is in potato. It's to do with routed, so I'd not bother.

> Im just a Linux beginner.. but shouldn't gateways be configured
> with the command "route add default gw ..."  ??

Yes.

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RE: Two modems

2000-04-10 Thread Tom Warfield
Its called Multi PPP.  I am working on doing the same thing and have been
told by several people that it can be done.  Here are dome links;

http://mp.mansol.net.au

http://www.xteamlinux.com.cn/lxr/source/Documentation/networking/eql.txt

http://linux-mp.terz.de/

There are some posting on FreshMeat.net that rate these. I guess it appears
that there are a few ways to do it.  I will be trying to accomplish this
within the next month so that i can use dual from my house.  If you find
anything that is usefull please let me know.  I am a newbie and im still
trying to decide what is the best way to accomplish this.


Tom W.
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Behalf Of Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:42 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Two modems


Hi!

I have two modems and I want to increase my bandwidth.

There are some way to share Internet trafic through two ppp interfaces?

Thanks,
Camilo Alejadro
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kernel panic: unable to mount root fs...

2000-04-10 Thread John Kiff
Help!!!

I got the following messages when I was booting up:

"EXT2-fs: group descriptors corrupted:"

followed a few lines later by:

"kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:02"

after which everything stops. The same thing happened when I tried using my 
boot floppy.

What should I do? My first reaction is to go back to square one and reinstall 
Debian (I'm
currently using 2.2). However, before I take such drastic measures, is there a 
quicker and simpler
way of getting everything back up and running?

John Kiff

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Re: Alternative to dselect?

2000-04-10 Thread Kent West
Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:

> 

> > Wow! I just installed [console-apt] and it looks MUCH nicer than
> dselect. However,
> > after marking something for installation, how do you actually tell capt
> > to install it? Neither the man pages nor the help screen indicated this
> > (or at least I didn't see it).
>
> Er... The help screen says:
>
> [-] Functions
>   [+] c   Complete pending install/removals
>   [+] Backspace   Complete pending install/removals
>

Yeah, I sw that and tried both. Neither did anything. Not a screen flicker,
not a screen change, not a mark changed anywhere, not a beep, nothing.

I've got version "diety 0.7.7"; maybe you've got a newer version and this is
a "feature" of my version?



Re: usb keyboard + mouse and xfree86

2000-04-10 Thread Gary Hennigan
Ron Rademaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe somehow linux can use the keyboard, but I am SURE usb is NOT
> supported in the 2.2.14 kernel, so you will NOT be able to use that mouse
> under X using a 2.2.14, about the keyboard: I don't think you can use
> it in X but I'm not sure.

You can also download a backport of the 2.3.x USB stuff for the 2.2.x
kernels. Take a look at the linux USB home page at:

http://www.linux-usb.org/

You'll see the link for the backport.

Gary


Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs...

2000-04-10 Thread Ron Rademaker
Where is your root partition, try booting with the boot option
root=/dev/ (possible
/dev/hda1). And see what happens.

Ron Rademaker

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Kiff wrote:

> Help!!!
> 
> I got the following messages when I was booting up:
> 
> "EXT2-fs: group descriptors corrupted:"
> 
> followed a few lines later by:
> 
> "kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:02"
> 
> after which everything stops. The same thing happened when I tried using my 
> boot floppy.
> 
> What should I do? My first reaction is to go back to square one and reinstall 
> Debian (I'm
> currently using 2.2). However, before I take such drastic measures, is there 
> a quicker and simpler
> way of getting everything back up and running?
> 
> John Kiff
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Re: reselling and distributing

2000-04-10 Thread Peter S Galbraith

root wrote:

> we are company from Lithuania and the are looking for new
> products to our market.

> PLease send us your full catalogue with prices, discounts, and
> license conditions.

"C. Falconer" wrote:

> Linux is free, almost every item of software is free.  There are no charges 
> for the operating system.

Right.

> Licensing - you can not charge more than a nominal fee for a disk/cd/tape - 
> I don't think there has ever been a maximum price suggested, but if you're 
> charging more than twice the media cost for a CD full of stuff available 
> for no charge on the net - then something is awray.

This is a misconception.  The Debian Free Software Guidelines
(which is adhered-to by anything in Debian's main archives) says
that the software may be sold commercially.

However, a lot of this software is under the GPL (GNU Public
License) which says that you must also provide source code along
with the GPL'ed binaries, and that the recipients have the same
rights as you under the GPL (including giving the software away
for free).

So you could sell Debian CDs for $1000 each (assuming anyone
would be uninformed enough to buy it at that price), but that
buyer could then turn around and give it away for free on a web
server and undercut you.   This ensures that the software is
`usually' sold at only slighly more than reproduction costs.
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Re: reselling and distributing

2000-04-10 Thread John Hasler
C. Falconer writes:
> Licensing - you can not charge more than a nominal fee for a
> disk/cd/tape...

This is entirely wrong.  You can charge whatever the market will bear.
Read the DFSG and the GPL.
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Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread Dan Hutchinson
Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images? 
I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for something
as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..

Dan

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apt-get usage

2000-04-10 Thread Peter S Galbraith
This is silly, I should know this.

How do I tell apt-get to forget about a past forced installation.

For example, I install `smtm' from potato on slink.  It depends
on perl5 but I know it'll mostly work anyway.

But then, any later usage of apt-get tells me:

# apt-get install eperl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  smtm: Depends: perl5 but it is not installable
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a 
solution).

How do I get past it?
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PERL or grep help pls (search replace)

2000-04-10 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
hello,

   i have like 10 thousand small files, some containing the text 
"http://209.155.163.97/smile.gif"; inside it while some dont.
   can someone please help me with a script w/c views all these files and if it 
sees a "http://209.155.163.97/smile.gif";, will replace it w/ a 
"http://www.cproda.com/smile.gif"; ?.

   thanks a lot :-)

chad


[no subject]

2000-04-10 Thread ak



 
Bonjour ça fait un bon moment que  j’entends parler de LINUX par la LINUX 
pas si .
 J’essaye  de faire  l’installer sur mon système, et voilà 
les problèmes qui commence .
J’es essayé plusieurs version dont :
 Est rien ne marche. meme que j es perdu 
tout mes partition a deux reprise .
 Tout se que j arrive a faire c est de 
faire l installation en mode texte.
J’es même 
essaye  de mettre a jous XFree86 version 4  ainsi que les diver de ma carte 
graphique. Mais rien affaire .
….. alors si 
tu connais une version qui pourrais marchais sur mon système je te serai bien 
reconnaissant 
carte 
mere ASUS P3C2000 Intel® 820 chipset
carte 
graphique rage fury 128 merci de votre 
aide..


Re: bootup message and ppp

2000-04-10 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> What does the message "S30.serial: Permission denied" during bootup 
> mean?
> 
that means, that a boot script cannot be executed.
you have to "chmod u+rx /etc/init.d/serial" (the file names may be a bit
different. i'm not sure ...)

> The ppp dial-in is still unreliable. Usually the first attempt fails,
> [...]
> What might be the problem? Once the connection is settled, it seems to
> be stable.
> 
this might be related to the above problem, as the serial port, through
which the modem is connected, cannot be set up properly.

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Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 08:45:27AM -0800, Dan Hutchinson wrote:
> Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images? 
> I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for something
> as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..

Well, Lynx will show graphics if you select them (using whatever
viewer you have set up for that MIME type -- ImageMagick on my box). 
If you want a text-mode viewer that handles frames and tables better
than Lynx, you might try links or w3m.

I find that for many purposes kfm (from KDE) is a better, faster web
browser than Netscape Navigator.  No graphical browser will as fast
as Lynx, though.
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Re: Questions about Debian

2000-04-10 Thread Kent West
Lachlan Robinson wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
> I am considering using Debian on my computer, but I have a question, is
> Debian a GUI (Graphical User Interface)?  I have installed and are using the
> 'basic' installation (from the 7 1.44 meg images), and it resembles an
> x-term or DOS environment, and I was wondering (before I download the rest)
> if the rest of the package has some GUI features.
> Thankyou for your time!
> Lachlan Robinson.
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The base install of Debian is just a very minimal system. It doesn't even 
include the
man (manual/help) pages. All versions of Linux are at their core just text mode.
However, just as you could install Windows 3.1 on top of DOS, you can install 
the X
Window System on top of Linux. Use dselect and "Select" to install the package
"xserver-vga16". That should flag a bunch of other packages to be installed that
should get you pretty close to having a working GUI. After this package is 
installed,
run XF86Setup. If you have something better than just a generic VGA card and
14" monitor, you may also want to install "xserver-svga" or better yet,
"xserver-".

Just a very quick tutorial: the X Window System is made up of two components: 
1) the
server (xserver-vga, etc), which provides the graphical screen, and 2) the 
clients
(such as Netscape and xterm, etc), one of the most important of which is your 
window
manager (kfm, icewm, window-maker, etc), which provides the "look-and-feel" for 
your
GUI environment.

Gnome and KDE are two popular "environments", which can be thought of as 
souped-up
window managers, but are really a collection of tools which include a default
window-manager and which add bells-and-whistles in addition to the default 
window
manager functions. For now, with Debian, you might want to go with something 
simple,
like icewm. Just use dselect to install it.

Hope this helps get you started.


Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread John Carline
Dan Hutchinson wrote:

> Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images?
> I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for something
> as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..
>
> Dan

You might want to take a look at gzilla (name just changed to armadillo). It's 
fast
and easy on the resources. Most graphic images are working fine, but the frames 
are
still in work.

John

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Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread Peter Ross
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 08:45:27AM -0800, Dan Hutchinson wrote:
> Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images? 
> I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for something
> as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..
> 
I love lynx, but when I need to look at a graphical site, I use mozilla.
It renders pages faster over a 33.6k modem then using netscape on a LAN,
which just goes to show it is not downloading the page that is
important!

Pete


help on multiple search/replace

2000-04-10 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
hello, 

  i dont know whether i successfully sent the first email i wrote.  anyway.

  can someone please help me on writing a script or whatevers best in order for 
me to perform multiple search and replace on thousands of small files ? 
  that is, these small files contain (some doesnt) the text 
"http://209.155.163.97/smile.gif"; and i want all of them to be replaced with 
"http://www.cproda.com/smile.gif"; ...

  any help appreciated.

thanks,
chad


Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread Kent West
Carl Fink wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 08:45:27AM -0800, Dan Hutchinson wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images?
> > I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for 
> > something
> > as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..
>
> Well, Lynx will show graphics if you select them (using whatever
> viewer you have set up for that MIME type -- ImageMagick on my box).
> If you want a text-mode viewer that handles frames and tables better
> than Lynx, you might try links or w3m.
>
> I find that for many purposes kfm (from KDE) is a better, faster web
> browser than Netscape Navigator.  No graphical browser will as fast
> as Lynx, though.
> --
> Carl Fink   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
> 

Wow! links actually looks usable. This looks like what I've been looking for 
for two
years! Thanks for the tip!!



Great work Xmame team!

2000-04-10 Thread Radim Gelner
I just couldn't keep myself from installing new release of xmame from
woody. Although I have to install few new sound libraries, the result
is worth it! Sound is incredibbly crisp, few games that segfaulted in
a previous version (e.g. Robocop) now run without the flaw.

Those who do not know what I'm babbling about should check xmame
package, that contains an arcade machine emulator supporting 2000+
beautiful videogames from last 30 years. Also do not forget to visit
http://www.mame.dk.

Once more: thanks guys!

Radim


Re: Alternative to dselect?

2000-04-10 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:

> Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
>
> > 
>
> > > Wow! I just installed [console-apt] and it looks MUCH nicer than
> > dselect. However,
> > > after marking something for installation, how do you actually tell capt
> > > to install it? Neither the man pages nor the help screen indicated this
> > > (or at least I didn't see it).
> >
> > Er... The help screen says:
> >
> > [-] Functions
> >   [+] c   Complete pending install/removals
> >   [+] Backspace   Complete pending install/removals
> >
>
> Yeah, I sw that and tried both. Neither did anything. Not a screen flicker,
> not a screen change, not a mark changed anywhere, not a beep, nothing.
>
> I've got version "diety 0.7.7"; maybe you've got a newer version and this is
> a "feature" of my version?

Having said that, just now I installed capt on my office box (as opposed to my 
home
box), and the "c" does work. I think maybe I wasn't doing something right on my 
home
box. Just now, when I marked "links" to be installed, I then pressed "c" and 
another
screen came up, presumably showing me dependencies. OK, fine, so I hit .
Nothing happened, so I pressed "ESC" or "q" (I forget), and went back to the 
previous
screen. I hit ; nothing. I hit "c"; nothing. I hit "q". Dropped out of 
capt
without anything happening.

So I went back in and remarked "links" for installation, hit "c" which took me 
to the
dependency screen, hit "c" AGAIN, and then things started happening.

I think console-apt will be a great tool; now that I've gotten past the first
"learning curve", I think I'm going to like it a LOT better than dselect. But 
then
again, I've only successfully used it once, so time will tell.



Re: installing packages on Mac IIci

2000-04-10 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:34:42 -0500, Joshua Holland wrote:

> I'm very new to Debian and Linux.  I got Debian running fine on my 
> Mac IIci. I downloaded the Debian base system install files, but I 
> don't want to install packages by download (my IIci is not connected 
> to net yet and this seems slow anyway).  Will I be able to configure 
> Debian to recognize my Apples CD-ROM drive, and will it read the 
> available CD's that contain Debian packages?

Hello Joshua,

I hope the following helps:

1. As far as I know (I don't have a Mac IIci) the Apple CD-ROM
drives are SCSI drives (you can check this from MacOS). If so, they 
should be accessible as /dev/scd0 under Linux.

2. If you get the CD drive to work, you can also read (almost) every
CD ROM, including Debian CDs.

3. Be aware that usual Debian CD sets contain the binary packages for
only one processor type ("architecture" in debianese), and usual CD
sets (most likely even those that don't specify an architecture at all)
are i386 (vanilla PC compatible). You'll need CDs for the m68k
architecture.

4. If you get stuck with problems specific to (the Debian port to) the
Macintosh, you can also post your questions to the debian-68k mailing
list; that's where the Mac experts are.


Regards,

Bjoern
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Re: Simple text screen editor

2000-04-10 Thread Steve Lamb
Thursday, April 06, 2000, 11:30:20 PM, Damon wrote:
> him sit down and practice, and now both our lives are a lot easier (vi,
> over the phone, is even less fun than vi in person!).

Yeah, but in what other editor can you say "ou812" and have it be legal?
:)

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Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread Dan Hutchinson
Do you need to run X windows inorder to use armodilla or mozilla,etc..

Dan

 John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Hutchinson wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images?
> > I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for
> something
> > as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..
> >
> > Dan
> 
> You might want to take a look at gzilla (name just changed to armadillo).
> It's fast
> and easy on the resources. Most graphic images are working fine, but
> the frames are
> still in work.
> 
> John
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Potato Installation Bug ?

2000-04-10 Thread Shane
Hi,
I am installing the Debian 2.2 over the network.
Each time I select "Make a Boot Floppy" it
fails with "Creation of a boot floppy failed..."
I have tested this on two different machines and
several floppy diskettes.  This used to work
few weeks ago.  Has anyone seen this before?
Is this a bug?.  

Thanks
Shane


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Re: apt-get error ("Couldn't configure a pre-depend")

2000-04-10 Thread Chris
> (snipped)
> > I'm trying to upgrade from slink to the latest unstable using apt-get
> > dist-upgrade, and
> > after a 180MB download (14 hours!) I got this error message:
> >
> > "E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend."
> >
> > What does this mean, and how can I fix it (or better yet, where can read
> > up on it)?
> > I have a few slink-jp packages installed as well.  Could these be
> > messing things up...?
> >
> > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!  :-)
> >
> Yuckk... this is a mess.  If you can apt-get install apt, then life will
> be good.  If you cannot, use dpkg -i to install all of the pre-depends
> for apt, and then dpk -i apt itself.
>
> Once you get the woody version of apt running, the everything should clear 
> out.
>
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Thanks guys, that got me part way!  I did apt-get install apt, and it seemed to 
do its
thing there for a while.

But I've got a new and even more exciting error message now:

 "E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the
  essential package libpam0g due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends
  loop.  This is often bad [ ?! ], but if you really want to do it,
  activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
  E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam0g
  Some errors occured while unpacking.  I'm going to
  configure the packages that were installed..."

It then gives me an exit error (100) and sends me back to #3 on the main menu.

Again, I'd really appreciate any help. (I don't know much about Linux yet, but 
libpam
is an authentication module, right?  Is there some way of using another method 
of
authentication to get around this problem? Or is there a better way?)


Thanks again...



Re: I won't be asking another!

2000-04-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, Tim wrote:
>After asking a simple yes or no question and geting 
>20 answers I'm sorry I even thought of using Debian!!
>Now I'm geting unwanted e-mail of your members calling me
>names because I asked them to please stop!! What follows
>is the last unwanted e-mail that just came in! 

What is your problem?  You ask a question and get it answered.  More than one
answer arrive because more than one person knows the answer, this is what
happens on mailing lists.
Then you send out a message saying that people are offending you by answering
your question.  Such a message is extremely offensive to the people who spend
their valuable time helping people like you without getting paid for doing so.
Now of course people are suggesting that you are stupid for intentionally
offending people who offer you help.  Why does this surprise you?

In case you haven't realised yet, as long as you keep posting to a mailing
list people who have opinions on the matter will keep replying to you.  If
you don't want replies then you won't write messages.

Could you please give me more identifying information on yourself?  If you
have any other email addresses then please tell me what they are.  I want to
avoid accidentally assisting you with any computer problem you may have in
future.  Also please tell me your age.  If you are a child then I'll
reconsider this decision when you turn 18.

I don't expect people to thank me when I spend my time solving their problems
for free.  But I do expect them to refrain from being even 10% as offensive
as you are.

As a final note, you complain about getting 20 answers.  Every day I get at
least 200 emails (sometimes as many as 400).  Of those emails at least 50 are
from people just as clueless as you (but who are much more polite).  I don't
get offended by people asking simple questions like "does Debian support SMP",
sometimes I even answer such questions.  Sometimes I let others answer them
(plenty of people with less experience than I are capable of answering such
simple questions so I can concentrate on more difficult and interesting
questions).
I don't flame people for asking simple questions.  I flame people who have
serious attitude problems in the hope that they will realise that they are
doing the wrong thing and start to behave better.  Incidentally I have only
come across a few people on the Internet who are as offensive as you.  Due to
this I would be happy to devote my entire efforts in this regard towards
educating you on an attitude that will work on the Internet.  If you don't
understand some of what I am saying, or disagree for some reason then please
let me know and I can expand greatly.



Russell Coker


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for end-user support for Debian.  The debian-user readers who aren't
subscribed to debian-devel can check the archives if they want to see your
history.

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Re: Web Browser

2000-04-10 Thread sam
If you use KDE, you always have the option of using it's file manager
(kfm) as a web browser. It's pretty speedy. I don't use KDE but I have it
installed and sometimes use kfm with WindowMaker.

~Sam

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Dan Hutchinson wrote:

> Does anyone know of a web browser that displays jpg and gif images? 
> I like the speed of lynx and don't like netscape.  I am looking for something
> as fast as lynx that allows frames, gif images, etc..
> 
> Dan
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pseudo-image

2000-04-10 Thread John F. Davis
Hello

I want to use pseudo image to make a cd image of debian i386.  I tried using
the binary-i386-1.lst file from one url, but it didn't seem to be correct and
pseudo-image didn't get pulled correctly.  There were way to many missing
files.

Now, I'm trying again.  However, I'm looking at:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.9-2000-03-30/
and I don't see a file list.  Where do I get the latest file list?



Video cards? - impressions, not necessarily facts

2000-04-10 Thread jin
> interesting :) and have trouble deciding on a video card.
> I thought 3dfx was supposed to be a good choice (looking
> at the 3000), as was Matrox (the G400).

I would go foor 3dfx and Matrox based cards, when comes 
need to buy new videocard.

3dfx has good base, they have released specs, and have 
open source drivers.

I don\'t remember Matrox\'s case, at least they have very 
good drivers.

> NVidia (sp?) was mentioned as a possibility, but I 
> didn\'t know it was supported well.

When 3dfx established very good bug-tracking system, 
NVidia suddenly announced to release drivers to Linux too. 
But their drivers are binary only (not optimised, barely
working. Decent 2D but 3D sucks), and looks like they 
don\'t have interest of Linux users any more. So don\'t expect 
NVidia cards work with future X or kernel.

My answer: If NVidia pretends Linux doesn\'t exist, then I
pretend NVidia doesn\'t exist. Fair trade, I think.

... Just my impressions from this list ... and from
http://slashdot.org

Jarkko Niemi
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Re: Potato Installation Bug ?

2000-04-10 Thread Dan Hutchinson
I get the same error when trying to create a boot floppy.  Your floppy
disk may be bad?  I usually skip this step and reboot the system.  I
would recommend making a boot disk of your finished system anyway.  It
is more valueable after your system is up and running.  

Dan

I know this is just a work around


 " Shane  " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am installing the Debian 2.2 over the network.
> Each time I select "Make a Boot Floppy" it
> fails with "Creation of a boot floppy failed..."
> I have tested this on two different machines and
> several floppy diskettes.  This used to work
> few weeks ago.  Has anyone seen this before?
> Is this a bug?.  
> 
> Thanks
> Shane
> 
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sending with 2 isp accounts

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
I have two isp accounts.  I just got exim, fetchmail, mutt working 
last night.  I've got fetchmail set up so I can download from
both isp's ok but the problem I'm having is sending.  I can send 
just fine from isp #1 (inebraska) but the messages I sent from isp #2 
(peoplepc) didn't get out of my system and were bounced back to me.  I 
thought this was probably due to the rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf so 
I added isp #2.  From the file:
_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
--

Now I don't get the message sent as peoplepc bouncing back.  It just 
sticks in my "outbox" in mutt.  One of the problems is the mail server
for the peoplepc on outgoing is smtp.peoplepc.com.  I don't know where
to put this info.  I'm confused on how to get this done.
Thanks,
kent  


sending mail with 2 isp accounts

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
I have two isp accounts.  I just got exim, fetchmail, mutt working
last night.  I've got fetchmail set up so I can download from
both isp's ok but the problem I'm having is sending.  I can send
just fine from isp #1 (inebraska) but the messages I sent from isp #2
(peoplepc) didn't get out of my system and were bounced back to me.  I
thought this was probably due to the rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf so
I added isp #2.  From the file:
_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
--
When I did that then all my mail just went to mutt's outbox and wasn't
sent as far as I can tell.  One other complication is the outgoing
mail server name is different for peoplepc then the incomming mail
server name.  I don't know how to handle that either.  Hope
I have been clear. If someone could point the way I would apreciate it
Thanks,
kent

  


ftp.us.debian.org upgraded

2000-04-10 Thread Dpk
The host ftp.egr.msu.edu (or ftp.us.debian.org) has been upgraded to a
Pentium Celeron 450 w/384 MB of RAM.  An additional 18 GB of storage
was added and it is now directly connected at 100 Mbps full-duplex to
the MSU Gigabit backbone (with an OC-3 Internet link).

The Debian archive is available via:

archive-ftp:/debian/
archive-http:   /debian/
archive-rsync:  /debian/

This should fix the hardware problems we have had as of recent,
providing a fast stable mirror.

Fyi.

Dennis Kelly
Network Administrator   
College of Engineering  
Michigan State University


Re: sending mail with 2 isp accounts

2000-04-10 Thread ktb
Sorry for the confusion and the double post.  I don't know what happened but
when I tried to send the messages mutt said "new message in outbox" not
"message sent" so I thought the other message hadn't been sent.  It took
forever and then they came through.  I don't get that.  I sent a bunch of
test messages to myself and they didn't come through till an hour or so
later all at once.  In the meantime I had no trouble sending and receiving
messages through outlook express?
kent


- Original Message -
From: ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: sending mail with 2 isp accounts


> I have two isp accounts.  I just got exim, fetchmail, mutt working
> last night.  I've got fetchmail set up so I can download from
> both isp's ok but the problem I'm having is sending.  I can send
> just fine from isp #1 (inebraska) but the messages I sent from isp #2
> (peoplepc) didn't get out of my system and were bounced back to me.  I
> thought this was probably due to the rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf so
> I added isp #2.  From the file:
> _
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bcfrF
> --
> When I did that then all my mail just went to mutt's outbox and wasn't
> sent as far as I can tell.  One other complication is the outgoing
> mail server name is different for peoplepc then the incomming mail
> server name.  I don't know how to handle that either.  Hope
> I have been clear. If someone could point the way I would apreciate it
> Thanks,
> kent
>



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Re: fixing netscape's super ugly fonts..how?

2000-04-10 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
> To fix this, and some related Netscape brain damage, create a file
> /etc/X11/Xresources/netscape, with the following lines:
> Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement:   05



Thanks a lot for these X resources for Netscape.  Do you have any
idea how to control the fonts that Netscape uses for displaying the
menus and other non-web page text?  Seems like there should be a
X resource for that too.

Chris
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ftp but no apt

2000-04-10 Thread John Stevenson
Hello
I have set up a partial mirror of debian on one of our
machines.  This was orignially on the same subnet x.x.1.x as
all the laptops we use.  Apt worked fine and we reduced d/l
time emensly.

Now we have moved the box to another subnet, x.x.3.x and now
apt no longer works.  It stalls at the first attempt to
actually get a package list.  It connects to the server
okay, but fails to fetch any package list.

I thought there must have been something denying ftp access,
but straight ftp works fine.  Is there a difference in port
that apt uses against normal ftp??  I cant see this myself
as the mirror is just set up as an anonymous ftp server.

I guess that this must constitue a bug against apt, unless
anyone has any suggestions.  I have tried this accross 3
different subnets and had exactly the same effect.  Very
strange!!

Johnny.
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2 ?'s, Pon & normal users, colour in config programs.

2000-04-10 Thread John Anderson
I tried putting normal users in /etc/group under dip like this:

dip:x:1000:1001

still, the computer says, permission denied to /usr/sbin/pppd.  Did I
configure it incorrectly?  Is there anyway to get this working?  If, not
is there any text-mode dialers that don't need root clearance?

Also, I was wondering if there is anyway to get colour support turned of
in the configuration programs (modconf, pppconfig, etc.)  I know during the
installation it asks you if you have a monochrome or colour monitor, but is
there anyway to change it now?

Thank you.


Re: 2 ?'s, Pon & normal users, colour in config programs.

2000-04-10 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> I tried putting normal users in /etc/group under dip like this:
> 
> dip:x:1000:1001
> 
> still, the computer says, permission denied to /usr/sbin/pppd.  Did I
> configure it incorrectly?  Is there anyway to get this working?
>
you must use user names, not numeric id-s. at least my man-page says that.

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