RE: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
There are several packages in Debian currently which attempt to figure out
which network you are own and configure your ethernet device accordingly.  I
know intuitively and I think thje other is discover.  There is at least two
more.



Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Werner Heuser
> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover.  There is at least two
> more.
`divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.

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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Werner Heuser wrote:
>> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover. There is at
>> least two more.
> `divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.

`whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
others, though.

Daniel

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Re: Woody - PCMCIA Ethernet

2001-09-10 Thread Tony Godshall
I had a similar problem when I did a potato install and
upgraded to unstable.  I got around it by commenting out any
axnet drivers in the /etc/pcmcia/* .

On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:50:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> I Recently installed Debian on a laptop with a flaky cd-rom and no floppy 
> drive.  I accomplished this magnificent feat by borrowing a 40-44 pin IDE 
> Adapter and starting the installation on a desktop machine.  the 
> installation went OK, I was using the woody boot disks because I had heard 
> there were problems with my laptop and the potato disks (or maybe it was 
> all toshiba laptops, I don't recall)  anyway I did the Base install on the 
> desktop machine.  then put the HD Back into the laptop.  when I tried ot 
> get the PCMCIA Ethernet working It wouldn't detect the card.  it kept 
> automatically loading an axnet (or something similar sounding) driver. the 
> card is a trendnet TE-210CT (ne2k clone) I have much experience with 
> PCMCIA or Linux for that matter ,any input would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> Andre



Problems compiling netdrivers

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Thaler
Hi,

I downloaded netdrivers-3.0.1.src.rpm from ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/
I put the driver-sources in /usr/src/modules/netdrivers and tried to
compile them just typing 'make'.

I get the following compiling errors:

/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:26: conflicting types for
`spinlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/spinlock.h:55: previous declaration of
`spinlock_t'/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:68: parse error
before `{'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:78: parse error before `void'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:93: parse error before `do'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:121: conflicting types for
`rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/spinlock.h:118: previous declaration of
`rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:146: parse error before `void'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:155: parse error before `void'
make: *** [epic100.o] Error 1

I also tried to compile only the pci-scan.c and the tulip.c drivers:

gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
-O6 -c pci-scan.c

gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c -o
tulip_cb.o -I/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/include

When I try to insert the modules I get:

insmod pci-scan.o
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_byte
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_class
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol __check_region
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_dword
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol __ioremap
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_word
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol kfree
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_set_master
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_dword
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_word
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol printk
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol ioport_resource

insmod tulip_cb.o
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol eth_type_trans
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __kfree_skb
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol alloc_skb
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol init_etherdev
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __release_region
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol cpu_raise_softirq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol free_irq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_dword
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol iounmap
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __ioremap
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol del_timer
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol kfree
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_driver
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_slot
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol request_irq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol skb_over_panic
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol dev_close
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_dword
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol register_driver
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol jiffies
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol softnet_data
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __request_region
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol printk
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol add_timer
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol ioport_resource

I also tried to add  -I/usr/src/linux/include -include
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h 

I got less errors with that but it did not work either.

I am not a linux expert. I would really appretiate any suggestions how
to compile the new netdrivers because my SMC EZ 10/100 Cardbus card is
not working with the old drivers. Is there a debian package with the
drivers?

Thank you very much,
Michael



Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Johan Romin
Hi there!

First off, I've never tried the irda package that comes whith debian. I always 
get the source tarball, and it has always worked for me..

Have you tried to load the irda modules by hand? instead of hoping that 
irattach will do it for you?
The error you see in the syslog, is to my knowledge due to you trying to attach 
a tty that isn't and IR one, or one that doesn't exist.
Or maybe it is all because the modules aren't loaded.

If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
insmod irda
insmod irtty
insmod ircomm
insmod ircomm-tty
irattach /dev/yourtty -s

and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.

/Johan

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On sön, sep 09, 2001 at 09:06:41 -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> OK, I probably did some "bad things" here.
> But this is what I've done...
> 
> 1) dselect -> purge -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 2) rm /dev/ir* (removed all these various irda related device references)
> 3) dselect -> install -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 
> (left the configuration file /etc/irda.conf alone, it looked about right)
> 
> 4) ran 'dpkg-reconfigure irda-common' and did not edit the 
> /etc/irda.conf file.
> 
> 5) ln -s /dev/ircomm0 /dev/pilot  (references)
> http://homepage.mac.com/pauljlucas/personal/powerbook/irda.html#modem
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/infrared-howto-s-palm-connection.html
> 
> But I can not get any modules loaded according to lsmod...
> 
> syslog keeps dumping irattach: tcsetattr: Input/output error
> I'm seriously bummed on this one.  I had it working a few weeks ago just 
> fine.  But my old notes for setting up jpilot don't work at all anymore. 
>   I'm a little lost on this.
> Since I have nothing, I will try anything.
> 
> BTW:  I have an IBM A21m and a Palm Pilot V
> 
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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 09:06:41PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> OK, I probably did some "bad things" here.
> But this is what I've done...
> 
> 1) dselect -> purge -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 2) rm /dev/ir* (removed all these various irda related device references)
> 3) dselect -> install -> irda-common, irda-utils

What distribution are you running?  potato? testing? unstable?

> (left the configuration file /etc/irda.conf alone, it looked about right)
> 
> 4) ran 'dpkg-reconfigure irda-common' and did not edit the 
> /etc/irda.conf file.

Are you tring to get fast infrared?  If so, you will need to uncomment the
lines in /etc/modutils/irda:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
alias irda0 nsc-ircc
--

Make sure your /etc/irda.conf uses 

IRDADEV=irda

/dev/irda comes from the NSC irda module.  Make sure that is a part of the
kernel you have.

If you are running devfs, you may also need to add these lines to
/etc/irda.conf so devfsd can autoload the ircomm module if needed:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# Devfs autoload
alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
--

If you need more detail about the individual steps, let me know.

Chris



Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
>> insmod irda
>> insmod irtty
>> insmod ircomm
>> insmod ircomm-tty
>> irattach /dev/yourtty -s
>> 
>> and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.

I think, you can use IrDA with the following simple command:

irattach /dev/yourtty -s

However, it requires proper /etc/modules.conf settings. In
irda-common, it should be done by /etc/modutils/irda file and
update-modules(8) command.
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Re: Problems compiling netdrivers

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Thaler
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:30:18AM +0200, Michael Thaler wrote:

Sorry, I forgot the infos about my system. I am using debian unstable
with kernel 2.4.8



Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:13:33PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> There are several packages in Debian currently which attempt to figure out
> which network you are own and configure your ethernet device accordingly.  I
> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover.  There is at least two
> more.

I also noticed that pcmcia scripts now look at /etc/network/interfaces
by default. I will experiment some more to find out why this didn't seem
to work right yesterday. It did work when I tried it now, maybe it has
something to do with my current ordering of configuration scripts on
bootup...

(discover is a hardware detection system. Don't think it does network
environment detection too... I know there are others, also don't
remember what they are.)

I guess these are all for detecting one of a number of preconfigured
network settings? Thanks, I may try some more of these on my laptop, but
for this little project the network environment is completely unknown.
Having pcmcia look at /etc/network/interfaces is the "right" solution in
this case.

Hugo van der Merwe

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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

Johan Romin wrote:

Hi there!

First off, I've never tried the irda package that comes whith debian. I always 
get the source tarball, and it has always worked for me..

Have you tried to load the irda modules by hand? instead of hoping that 
irattach will do it for you?
The error you see in the syslog, is to my knowledge due to you trying to attach 
a tty that isn't and IR one, or one that doesn't exist.
Or maybe it is all because the modules aren't loaded.

If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
insmod irda
insmod irtty
insmod ircomm
insmod ircomm-tty
irattach /dev/yourtty -s

and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.

/Johan


Bettter.
irdadump is showing the communication from my Pilot.
But jpilot throws:
pi_bind Permission denied
Check your serial port and settings
exiting with status -10
--
OK, I fixed /dev/ircomm0 to chmod '666'
but it's still not 100% - "resource Busy"

Question.  How do I get the ir modules to load automatically?



Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

NOKUBI Takatsugu wrote:

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
insmod irda
insmod irtty
insmod ircomm
insmod ircomm-tty
irattach /dev/yourtty -s

and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.



I think, you can use IrDA with the following simple command:

irattach /dev/yourtty -s

However, it requires proper /etc/modules.conf settings. In
irda-common, it should be done by /etc/modutils/irda file and
update-modules(8) command.



I have to play more...
I'm running into an ip_bind error today and haven't worked on it much.




kernel message

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Hothorn

Any idea what this could actually mean (and what to do to get rid of
it)???


probable hardware bug: clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a

CPU: Intel Pentium III 

Kernel: 2.2.19 

Os: Debian/GNU linux stable

thanks
bye
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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

Chris Halls wrote:

Are you tring to get fast infrared?  If so, you will need to uncomment the
lines in /etc/modutils/irda:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
alias irda0 nsc-ircc
--

Make sure your /etc/irda.conf uses 


IRDADEV=irda

/dev/irda comes from the NSC irda module.  Make sure that is a part of the
kernel you have.

If you are running devfs, you may also need to add these lines to
/etc/irda.conf so devfsd can autoload the ircomm module if needed:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# Devfs autoload
alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
--

If you need more detail about the individual steps, let me know.

Chris






Everything here was done by the .deb except for the section on "alias 
/dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty"

no dice.



Re: wooky->potato

2001-09-10 Thread Adam Kessel
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:52:43PM +1000, CaT wrote:
> If you want a 2.4.x kernel then hit ftp.xx.kernel.org (where xx is
> your country code (or the one closest to you via the innanet) and roll
> your own.
> I'm not sure but I don't -think- there is a 2.4.x kernel package for
> debian yet (unless it's in sid...).

Yes, there is.  You can get both source and binaries with apt-get from
unstable.  There are a variety of binaries customized for different
processors, e.g.: 

kernel-image-2.4.9-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 386.
kernel-image-2.4.9-586 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 
586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX.
kernel-image-2.4.9-586tsc - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 
Pentium-Classic.
kernel-image-2.4.9-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 
PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII.
kernel-image-2.4.9-686-smp - Linux kernel image 2.4.9 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII 
SMP.
kernel-image-2.4.9-k6 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on AMD 
K6/K6-II/K6-III/K7

and source:

kernel-source-2.4.7 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.7
kernel-source-2.4.8 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.8
kernel-source-2.4.9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.9

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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:06:49AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> Chris Halls wrote:
> >
> > /etc/modultils/irda -
> ># To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
> >options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
> >alias irda0 nsc-ircc
> >--
> >
> Everything here was done by the .deb except for the section on "alias 
> /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty"
> no dice.

Are you _sure_ about that?  The NSC lines are commented out in the version
the package installs.  I even got the latest source package and checked it
before posting.  Here is a diff of the source package version against my 
version:

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/src/debs/irda-utils-0.9.14/debian$ diff -u
modutils-irda /etc/modutils/irda
--- modutils-irda   Mon Sep 10 13:16:25 2001
+++ /etc/modutils/irda  Wed Aug  1 15:23:44 2001
@@ -5,6 +5,10 @@
 # The following is for old kernel.
 alias char-major-60 ircomm_tty
 
+# Devfs autoload
+alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
+alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
+
 # To be able to attach some dongles
 alias irda-dongle-0 tekram
 alias irda-dongle-1 esi
@@ -24,5 +28,5 @@
 # alias irda0 w83977af_ir
 
 # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
-# options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
-# alias irda0 nsc-ircc
+options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
+alias irda0 nsc-ircc
--

Chris



Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 22:35, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> 
> (discover is a hardware detection system. Don't think it does network
> environment detection too... I know there are others, also don't
> remember what they are.)

divine does network environment detection, as does intuitively.  I
maintain 'whereami' which tries to combine these sorts of things
together under one roof.


> I guess these are all for detecting one of a number of preconfigured
> network settings? Thanks, I may try some more of these on my laptop, but
> for this little project the network environment is completely unknown.
> Having pcmcia look at /etc/network/interfaces is the "right" solution in
> this case.

Well, the only thing I know that really does a lot of configuring based
on information supplied externally to your laptop is DHCP.  In fact in
many cases DHCP may be underutilised, since it can hand out all sorts of
information.  Most DHCP servers just hand out the IP address, default
gateway and nameserver(s) and leave it at that.

If by 'completely unknown' you mean even DHCP is not supplied and you
have to enter some parameters at boot time then I think your requirement
is sufficiently off the wall to be outside most of the existing stuff.

If you want to talk a little more privately then I could look at adding
some functionality to 'whereami' to support your case a little better.

Regards,
Andrew.

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Re: Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc

2001-09-10 Thread H.Heinold
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 10:03:17PM -0400, Scott Bigham wrote:
> This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;)
> since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at
> least some of the questions are laptop-specific.
> 
> Anywho, these are the upgrades I'm considering:
> 
>   - kernel:  2.2.19 -> 2.4.9
> 
> My understanding from previous discussions on this topic is that the
> PCMCIA kernel modules in 2.4 are NRFPT (or has this changed in
> 2.4.9?), and that I will therefore need to build and install the
> pcmcia-cs modules in the same manner that I did for 2.2.x, after
> which I will presumably have exactly the same PCMCIA functionality
> that I have now.

To understand how pcmcia works and what is the different between pcmcia-cs
and the kernel stuff please read at http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net


Henning Heinold



Re: Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-10 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:33:47PM +0200, Tony Crawford wrote:
>  although the 2.2r*0* CD does?
> 
> At first I thought I had a coaster, but it boots fine on other 
> machines. FWIW the Progeny 1.0 CD I got off a magazine cover 
> won't boot on the Toshiba either.
> 
> Very curious (and holding on to those 2.2r0 images),
> 

>From what I understand, the Toshiba "CD-boot" is really just a floppy boot
image read from a CD.  The sad consequence that sets Toshiba laptops apart
from other systems is that they cannot boot an image larger than a standard
floppy.

Hence the boot image is limited to 1.44MB.  But the Potato boot images are
2.88MB (a "newer" floppy format).  And that is why the Potato CDs do not
boot on Toshiba laptops.

Apparently the BIOS from other manufacturers doesn't put the same size
limitation on CD boot images.

The bit I don't understand is why you can boot from 2.2r0.  It doesn't work
for me (490CDT).

Drew

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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Drew Parsons
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Werner Heuser wrote:
> >> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover. There is at
> >> least two more.
> > `divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.
> 
> `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> others, though.
> 

I'm perfectly happy to use "cardctl scheme" and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to
switch between networks.

The thing I'd find autodetection useful for is shuffling /etc/exim.conf
around, one configuration for dialup (setting the ISP's SMTP server as
mailserver, to avoid rejection from spam-preventing recipients, which reject
mail from dial-up sources) and one for LAN ethernet, allowing a direct SMTP
connection (i.e. using exim itself as the mail server).

Is this the sort of situation these network detection programs are designed
for?

Drew

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Samsung NV5000

2001-09-10 Thread Florian Kugler
hi all,

has anyone any experiences with running linux on a
samsung nv5000 series notebook?

thank you very much,

florian.



Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:09:11AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> > `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> > Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> > others, though.
> > 
> 
> I'm perfectly happy to use "cardctl scheme" and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to
> switch between networks.

You can use whereami like this too.  'whereami newLocation' will carry out
configuration modifications for newLocation without doing any of the
network detection tests.

> The thing I'd find autodetection useful for is shuffling /etc/exim.conf
> around, one configuration for dialup (setting the ISP's SMTP server as
> mailserver, to avoid rejection from spam-preventing recipients, which reject
> mail from dial-up sources) and one for LAN ethernet, allowing a direct SMTP
> connection (i.e. using exim itself as the mail server).
> 
> Is this the sort of situation these network detection programs are designed
> for?

Yes, whereami will reconfigure your mail server for one of three modes:
 - queue only, for disconnected / dialup operation with a smtp server to
   relay to when the queue is flushed
 - relay mode, to deliver mail to a relay immediately on receipt of new
   messages
 - none, for when you have a direct internet connection and wish the mail
   server to do the deliveries itself.

Andrew did the sendmail support and I did the postfix support.  I'm
prepared to do exim support too if there is demand for it.

Chris



Re: wooky->potato

2001-09-10 Thread Vivek
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Tom Allison wrote:

> CaT wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 03:04:28PM +0100, Vivek wrote:
> >
> >>Er. I just added the woody lines to my sources.list and did an
> >>
> >>apt-get update
> >>apt-get dist-upgrade
[cut]
> Maybe I have a dumb question.
> After you change the sources.list from 'stable' to 'testing'
> are you supposed to run apt-get upgrade first or apt-get dist-upgrade?
> I've always thought it was apt-get dist-upgrade..
> Is that right?

That's apt-get update, not upgrade. 'update' tells apt to fetch the
up-to-date package lists from/for the specified sources. 'dist-upgrade' is
similar to upgrade, except that it's a lot more aggressive about installing
extra dependencies and stuff, given that it know it has to upgrade across a
whole distribution.

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Wavy Screen using 'Option "Display" "CRT"' on ATI 128 Rage Mobility

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert
I've sent the following message to a couple of the XFree86
mailing lists, and haven't got much back--maybe someone
here can help? Thanks.

I've been working on a Dell Latitude C600 with an
ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (or something like that).
I want to be able to start X up on an external
monitor (as opposed to switching using the FN-F8
key combo after X has already started on the LCD).
My understanding was that adding the
Option "Display" "CRT" line to the Device section
would do this--and indeed it does, except that
instead of starting up clear (like the screen
looks if I switch over using the FN-F8 combo),
it's all wavy and jittery--not flicker such as
you get with a low refresh rate, but more like
every other or every third line of pixels is moving
from side to side very rapidly, or something.

Like I said, if I use the CRT/LCD button to switch,
it works fine. But I want to be able to start up
on the CRT so that I can get a better resolution
and refresh rate. Any ideas? Thanks in advance--

  --Daniel

P.S. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux unstable,
XFree86 4.1.0.1 (according to X -version) on
kernel 2.4.9. Here's my XF86Config. Let me know
if you need more info or have an idea.

XF86Config:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "pex5"
Load  "record"
Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "GlidePointPS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "HWP"
ModelName"HP75"
HorizSync30.0 - 86.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Option  "Display" "CRT"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "ati"
VendorName  "ATI"
BoardName   "Rage 128 Mobility LF"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x960"
EndSubSection
EndSection



Kernal Image

2001-09-10 Thread Eric Borton
I recently compiled a kernel from v.2.2.19 to v.2.4.4

After the make bzimage command (for those familiar with the process) I was
not able to see the file bzImage in the
/usr/src/kernel-2.4.4-source/.../i386/boot/ folder.  The how-to states a
linux folder in the src folder but for some reason it created the
kernel-2.4.4-source folder.  Anyway, I was expecting to see the bzImage but
did not because I needed this to show lilo where to boot the 2.4.4 kernel or
at least move the file to the /boot folder to have lilo get to it.  Also, I
ran bzdisk.  Does this erase the bzImage and put it onto the disk and that
is the reason I can not find the file?  I am new at the compiling but I was
happy I could get the kernel to boot from the disk.  Thanks for any help.



Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Alexander Clouter
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Werner Heuser wrote:
> >> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover. There is at
> >> least two more.
> > `divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.
>
> `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> others, though.
>
and the latest version of 'whereami' has a new script that (with the
'arping' (or iputils-arping, we never could work it out)) package
installed will detect the current network automagically depending on
hardware addresses rather than ip address which can be common across
networks :)

Alex

BTW  send thanks on the new script to me ;) 



Re: Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc

2001-09-10 Thread Brendan O'Connor
On Sunday 09 September 2001 09:03 pm, Scott Bigham wrote:
> This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;)
> since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at
> least some of the questions are laptop-specific.
[...]
>   - XFree86:  3.3.6 -> 4.1.0
>
> My notebook is a Toshiba Portege 7020CT, which has a NeoMagic NM2200
> video chip.  The XFree86 site lists this chip as "Support
> (accelerated)" in 4.1.0;[1] do I lose the acceleration if I use the
> framebuffer?
>
> There's also the question of the XF86Config changes; is there a
> utility to convert an old 3.3.6 config file to the new syntax?

The configuration files for X 4 is actually quite similar, and if anything, 
simpler.  Just save your old one and compare them side by side, and it should 
be fine.



>   - libc6:  2.1.3 -> 2.2.3
>
> This is the one that's really got me worried.  I mean, if this goes
> wrong, it has the potential to break *everything*.  Anything special
> I need to do here?
>
> And, coming full circle, if I do this upgrade before the kernel
> upgrade, do I still need to use the "bunk" versions of the various
> 2.4 utilities,[2] or can I just use the versions from testing?

When I upgraded potato -> woody, the only glitch was some dependencies 
concerning perl 5.6, libc 2.2, and APT.  It ended up that apt,(which uses 
perl) started barfing up on me because the old libc was still installed but 
perl had been upgraded first... It wasn't much of a problem, you just have to 
manually download 1 or 2 packages and dpkg install them if needed.

--Brendan



Re: Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-10 Thread Tony Crawford
Drew Parsons wrote (on 10 Sep 2001 at 23:36):

> The bit I don't understand is why you can boot from 2.2r0.  It 
doesn't
> work for me (490CDT). 

Oops! You're right, 2.2r0 doesn't boot either. Must have been a 
problem with my memory--the wet one. I could have sworn I have 
(or had) a system here that booted with 0 but not 3, though. 
Maybe I'm confusing 0 with hamm CDs, which I guess are still 
floating around here somewhere. Did I use them as rescue disks 
back when I was getting the PCMCIA on potato-r0 straightened out?

Be that as it may, the worst thing is that the Toshiba is very 
sensitive about boot floppies too. So far I have three for 
Progeny that fail, all at different stages.

Thanks for the background info and sorry for the confusion!

T.



Re: Wavy Screen using 'Option "Display" "CRT"' on ATI 128 Rage Mobility

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert
Thanks, but I've tried it with quite a few different resolutions.
Right now I'm testing at 1024x768.

  --Daniel
  
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:20:03PM -0400, Yannick Asselin wrote:
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 24
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth 24
> > Modes "1280x960"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> 
> Okay, I'm no expert, but this resolution looks weird. I usually see 1280x1024 
> ... Maybe 
> that could be the problem??? If that's not it, I can't help you any more than 
> that, sorry.
> 
> Yannick



IrDA

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

this is what I've got so far...
I did the apt-get install irda-common irda-tools

I commented out all but the following lines in /etc/modutil/irda
alias tty-ldisk-11 irtty
alias char-major-60 ircomm-tty
(i have 2.2.19 kernel)
(I removed all the 'dongles')

options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
alias irda ndc-ircc

I had not /dev/ir* devices so I created some
mknod /dev/ircomm0 c 161 0
mknod /dev/ircomm1 c 161 1

edited /etc/irda.conf to change
DISCOVERY=-s
ENABLE=yes

ran /etc/init.d/irda start

and syslog says:
executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
nsc-ircc, Found chip at base=0x2e
nsc-ircc, driver loaded (Dag Brattle)
nsc-ircc_open(), can't get iobase of 0x2f8
+ /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
+ /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o failed


This repeats twice and that's about all she wrote.
lsmod shows irda, ircomm, ircomm-tty all loaded.
I checked, and I do have the nsc-ircc.o module in the 
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc directory.



irdadump -i /dev/ircomm0 (or ircomm1) both result in:
ioctl: No such device
syslog: modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ircommX


I'm close, but I'm feeling kind of stupid.



Re: IrDA

2001-09-10 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> and syslog says:
>> executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
>> nsc-ircc, Found chip at base=0x2e
>> nsc-ircc, driver loaded (Dag Brattle)
>> nsc-ircc_open(), can't get iobase of 0x2f8
>> + /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>> + /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: insmod 
>> /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o failed

It should be nsc-ircc UART emulation probrem.

Could you try the following commands?

# setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none port 0x02f8
# /etc/init.d/irda start
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Problems compiling netdrivers

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Thaler

Hi,

I downloaded netdrivers-3.0.1.src.rpm from ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/
I put the driver-sources in /usr/src/modules/netdrivers and tried to
compile them just typing 'make'.

I get the following compiling errors:

/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:26: conflicting types for
`spinlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/spinlock.h:55: previous declaration of
`spinlock_t'/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:68: parse error
before `{'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:78: parse error before `void'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:93: parse error before `do'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:121: conflicting types for
`rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/spinlock.h:118: previous declaration of
`rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:146: parse error before `void'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/spinlock.h:155: parse error before `void'
make: *** [epic100.o] Error 1

I also tried to compile only the pci-scan.c and the tulip.c drivers:

gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
-O6 -c pci-scan.c

gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c -o
tulip_cb.o -I/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/include

When I try to insert the modules I get:

insmod pci-scan.o
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_byte
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_class
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol __check_region
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_dword
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol __ioremap
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_word
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol kfree
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_set_master
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_dword
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_word
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol printk
pci-scan.o: unresolved symbol ioport_resource

insmod tulip_cb.o
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol eth_type_trans
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __kfree_skb
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol alloc_skb
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol init_etherdev
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __release_region
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol cpu_raise_softirq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol free_irq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_dword
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol iounmap
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __ioremap
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol del_timer
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol kfree
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_driver
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_slot
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol request_irq
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol skb_over_panic
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol dev_close
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol pci_write_config_dword
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol register_driver
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol jiffies
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol softnet_data
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol __request_region
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol printk
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol add_timer
tulip_cb.o: unresolved symbol ioport_resource

I also tried to add  -I/usr/src/linux/include -include
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h 

I got less errors with that but it did not work either.

I am not a linux expert. I would really appretiate any suggestions how
to compile the new netdrivers because my SMC EZ 10/100 Cardbus card is
not working with the old drivers. Is there a debian package with the
drivers?

Thank you very much,
Michael


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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Johan Romin

Hi there!

First off, I've never tried the irda package that comes whith debian. I always get the 
source tarball, and it has always worked for me..

Have you tried to load the irda modules by hand? instead of hoping that irattach will 
do it for you?
The error you see in the syslog, is to my knowledge due to you trying to attach a tty 
that isn't and IR one, or one that doesn't exist.
Or maybe it is all because the modules aren't loaded.

If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
insmod irda
insmod irtty
insmod ircomm
insmod ircomm-tty
irattach /dev/yourtty -s

and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.

/Johan

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On sön, sep 09, 2001 at 09:06:41 -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> OK, I probably did some "bad things" here.
> But this is what I've done...
> 
> 1) dselect -> purge -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 2) rm /dev/ir* (removed all these various irda related device references)
> 3) dselect -> install -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 
> (left the configuration file /etc/irda.conf alone, it looked about right)
> 
> 4) ran 'dpkg-reconfigure irda-common' and did not edit the 
> /etc/irda.conf file.
> 
> 5) ln -s /dev/ircomm0 /dev/pilot  (references)
> http://homepage.mac.com/pauljlucas/personal/powerbook/irda.html#modem
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/infrared-howto-s-palm-connection.html
> 
> But I can not get any modules loaded according to lsmod...
> 
> syslog keeps dumping irattach: tcsetattr: Input/output error
> I'm seriously bummed on this one.  I had it working a few weeks ago just 
> fine.  But my old notes for setting up jpilot don't work at all anymore. 
>   I'm a little lost on this.
> Since I have nothing, I will try anything.
> 
> BTW:  I have an IBM A21m and a Palm Pilot V
> 
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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 09:06:41PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> OK, I probably did some "bad things" here.
> But this is what I've done...
> 
> 1) dselect -> purge -> irda-common, irda-utils
> 2) rm /dev/ir* (removed all these various irda related device references)
> 3) dselect -> install -> irda-common, irda-utils

What distribution are you running?  potato? testing? unstable?

> (left the configuration file /etc/irda.conf alone, it looked about right)
> 
> 4) ran 'dpkg-reconfigure irda-common' and did not edit the 
> /etc/irda.conf file.

Are you tring to get fast infrared?  If so, you will need to uncomment the
lines in /etc/modutils/irda:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
alias irda0 nsc-ircc
--

Make sure your /etc/irda.conf uses 

IRDADEV=irda

/dev/irda comes from the NSC irda module.  Make sure that is a part of the
kernel you have.

If you are running devfs, you may also need to add these lines to
/etc/irda.conf so devfsd can autoload the ircomm module if needed:

 /etc/modultils/irda -
# Devfs autoload
alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
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If you need more detail about the individual steps, let me know.

Chris


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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
>> insmod irda
>> insmod irtty
>> insmod ircomm
>> insmod ircomm-tty
>> irattach /dev/yourtty -s
>> 
>> and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.

I think, you can use IrDA with the following simple command:

irattach /dev/yourtty -s

However, it requires proper /etc/modules.conf settings. In
irda-common, it should be done by /etc/modutils/irda file and
update-modules(8) command.
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Re: Problems compiling netdrivers

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Thaler

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:30:18AM +0200, Michael Thaler wrote:

Sorry, I forgot the infos about my system. I am using debian unstable
with kernel 2.4.8


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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Hugo van der Merwe

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:13:33PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> There are several packages in Debian currently which attempt to figure out
> which network you are own and configure your ethernet device accordingly.  I
> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover.  There is at least two
> more.

I also noticed that pcmcia scripts now look at /etc/network/interfaces
by default. I will experiment some more to find out why this didn't seem
to work right yesterday. It did work when I tried it now, maybe it has
something to do with my current ordering of configuration scripts on
bootup...

(discover is a hardware detection system. Don't think it does network
environment detection too... I know there are others, also don't
remember what they are.)

I guess these are all for detecting one of a number of preconfigured
network settings? Thanks, I may try some more of these on my laptop, but
for this little project the network environment is completely unknown.
Having pcmcia look at /etc/network/interfaces is the "right" solution in
this case.

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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

Johan Romin wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> First off, I've never tried the irda package that comes whith debian. I always get 
>the source tarball, and it has always worked for me..
> 
> Have you tried to load the irda modules by hand? instead of hoping that irattach 
>will do it for you?
> The error you see in the syslog, is to my knowledge due to you trying to attach a 
>tty that isn't and IR one, or one that doesn't exist.
> Or maybe it is all because the modules aren't loaded.
> 
> If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
> insmod irda
> insmod irtty
> insmod ircomm
> insmod ircomm-tty
> irattach /dev/yourtty -s
> 
> and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.
> 
>   /Johan
> 
Bettter.
irdadump is showing the communication from my Pilot.
But jpilot throws:
pi_bind Permission denied
Check your serial port and settings
exiting with status -10
--
OK, I fixed /dev/ircomm0 to chmod '666'
but it's still not 100% - "resource Busy"

Question.  How do I get the ir modules to load automatically?


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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

NOKUBI Takatsugu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
>>>If you are only interested in sir, you might try the following procedure:
>>>insmod irda
>>>insmod irtty
>>>insmod ircomm
>>>insmod ircomm-tty
>>>irattach /dev/yourtty -s
>>>
>>>and then it should work... at least that one has never failed for me.
>>>
> 
> I think, you can use IrDA with the following simple command:
> 
> irattach /dev/yourtty -s
> 
> However, it requires proper /etc/modules.conf settings. In
> irda-common, it should be done by /etc/modutils/irda file and
> update-modules(8) command.
> 

I have to play more...
I'm running into an ip_bind error today and haven't worked on it much.



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kernel message

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Hothorn


Any idea what this could actually mean (and what to do to get rid of
it)???


probable hardware bug: clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a

CPU: Intel Pentium III 

Kernel: 2.2.19 

Os: Debian/GNU linux stable

thanks
bye
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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

Chris Halls wrote:
> Are you tring to get fast infrared?  If so, you will need to uncomment the
> lines in /etc/modutils/irda:
> 
>  /etc/modultils/irda -
> # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
> options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
> alias irda0 nsc-ircc
> --
> 
> Make sure your /etc/irda.conf uses 
> 
> IRDADEV=irda
> 
> /dev/irda comes from the NSC irda module.  Make sure that is a part of the
> kernel you have.
> 
> If you are running devfs, you may also need to add these lines to
> /etc/irda.conf so devfsd can autoload the ircomm module if needed:
> 
>  /etc/modultils/irda -
> # Devfs autoload
> alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
> alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
> --
> 
> If you need more detail about the individual steps, let me know.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 


Everything here was done by the .deb except for the section on "alias 
/dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty"
no dice.


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Re: wooky->potato

2001-09-10 Thread Adam Kessel

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:52:43PM +1000, CaT wrote:
> If you want a 2.4.x kernel then hit ftp.xx.kernel.org (where xx is
> your country code (or the one closest to you via the innanet) and roll
> your own.
> I'm not sure but I don't -think- there is a 2.4.x kernel package for
> debian yet (unless it's in sid...).

Yes, there is.  You can get both source and binaries with apt-get from
unstable.  There are a variety of binaries customized for different
processors, e.g.: 

kernel-image-2.4.9-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 386.
kernel-image-2.4.9-586 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on 
586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX.
kernel-image-2.4.9-586tsc - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on Pentium-Classic.
kernel-image-2.4.9-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII.
kernel-image-2.4.9-686-smp - Linux kernel image 2.4.9 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII SMP.
kernel-image-2.4.9-k6 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.9 on AMD K6/K6-II/K6-III/K7

and source:

kernel-source-2.4.7 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.7
kernel-source-2.4.8 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.8
kernel-source-2.4.9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.9

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Re: IrDA....

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:06:49AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> Chris Halls wrote:
> >
> > /etc/modultils/irda -
> ># To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
> >options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
> >alias irda0 nsc-ircc
> >--
> >
> Everything here was done by the .deb except for the section on "alias 
> /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty"
> no dice.

Are you _sure_ about that?  The NSC lines are commented out in the version
the package installs.  I even got the latest source package and checked it
before posting.  Here is a diff of the source package version against my version:

--
chris@shawn:/usr/local/src/debs/irda-utils-0.9.14/debian$ diff -u
modutils-irda /etc/modutils/irda
--- modutils-irda   Mon Sep 10 13:16:25 2001
+++ /etc/modutils/irda  Wed Aug  1 15:23:44 2001
@@ -5,6 +5,10 @@
 # The following is for old kernel.
 alias char-major-60 ircomm_tty
 
+# Devfs autoload
+alias /dev/ircomm0 ircomm-tty
+alias /dev/ircomm1 ircomm-tty
+
 # To be able to attach some dongles
 alias irda-dongle-0 tekram
 alias irda-dongle-1 esi
@@ -24,5 +28,5 @@
 # alias irda0 w83977af_ir
 
 # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
-# options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
-# alias irda0 nsc-ircc
+options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
+alias irda0 nsc-ircc
--

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Re: Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc

2001-09-10 Thread H.Heinold

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 10:03:17PM -0400, Scott Bigham wrote:
> This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;)
> since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at
> least some of the questions are laptop-specific.
> 
> Anywho, these are the upgrades I'm considering:
> 
>   - kernel:  2.2.19 -> 2.4.9
> 
> My understanding from previous discussions on this topic is that the
> PCMCIA kernel modules in 2.4 are NRFPT (or has this changed in
> 2.4.9?), and that I will therefore need to build and install the
> pcmcia-cs modules in the same manner that I did for 2.2.x, after
> which I will presumably have exactly the same PCMCIA functionality
> that I have now.

To understand how pcmcia works and what is the different between pcmcia-cs
and the kernel stuff please read at http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net


Henning Heinold


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Re: Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-10 Thread Drew Parsons

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:33:47PM +0200, Tony Crawford wrote:
>  although the 2.2r*0* CD does?
> 
> At first I thought I had a coaster, but it boots fine on other 
> machines. FWIW the Progeny 1.0 CD I got off a magazine cover 
> won't boot on the Toshiba either.
> 
> Very curious (and holding on to those 2.2r0 images),
> 

>From what I understand, the Toshiba "CD-boot" is really just a floppy boot
image read from a CD.  The sad consequence that sets Toshiba laptops apart
from other systems is that they cannot boot an image larger than a standard
floppy.

Hence the boot image is limited to 1.44MB.  But the Potato boot images are
2.88MB (a "newer" floppy format).  And that is why the Potato CDs do not
boot on Toshiba laptops.

Apparently the BIOS from other manufacturers doesn't put the same size
limitation on CD boot images.

The bit I don't understand is why you can boot from 2.2r0.  It doesn't work
for me (490CDT).

Drew

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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Drew Parsons

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Werner Heuser wrote:
> >> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover. There is at
> >> least two more.
> > `divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.
> 
> `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> others, though.
> 

I'm perfectly happy to use "cardctl scheme" and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to
switch between networks.

The thing I'd find autodetection useful for is shuffling /etc/exim.conf
around, one configuration for dialup (setting the ISP's SMTP server as
mailserver, to avoid rejection from spam-preventing recipients, which reject
mail from dial-up sources) and one for LAN ethernet, allowing a direct SMTP
connection (i.e. using exim itself as the mail server).

Is this the sort of situation these network detection programs are designed
for?

Drew

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Samsung NV5000

2001-09-10 Thread Florian Kugler

hi all,

has anyone any experiences with running linux on a
samsung nv5000 series notebook?

thank you very much,

florian.


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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Andrew McMillan

On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 22:35, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> 
> (discover is a hardware detection system. Don't think it does network
> environment detection too... I know there are others, also don't
> remember what they are.)

divine does network environment detection, as does intuitively.  I
maintain 'whereami' which tries to combine these sorts of things
together under one roof.


> I guess these are all for detecting one of a number of preconfigured
> network settings? Thanks, I may try some more of these on my laptop, but
> for this little project the network environment is completely unknown.
> Having pcmcia look at /etc/network/interfaces is the "right" solution in
> this case.

Well, the only thing I know that really does a lot of configuring based
on information supplied externally to your laptop is DHCP.  In fact in
many cases DHCP may be underutilised, since it can hand out all sorts of
information.  Most DHCP servers just hand out the IP address, default
gateway and nameserver(s) and leave it at that.

If by 'completely unknown' you mean even DHCP is not supplied and you
have to enter some parameters at boot time then I think your requirement
is sufficiently off the wall to be outside most of the existing stuff.

If you want to talk a little more privately then I could look at adding
some functionality to 'whereami' to support your case a little better.

Regards,
Andrew.

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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Chris Halls

On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:09:11AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> > `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> > Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> > others, though.
> > 
> 
> I'm perfectly happy to use "cardctl scheme" and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to
> switch between networks.

You can use whereami like this too.  'whereami newLocation' will carry out
configuration modifications for newLocation without doing any of the
network detection tests.

> The thing I'd find autodetection useful for is shuffling /etc/exim.conf
> around, one configuration for dialup (setting the ISP's SMTP server as
> mailserver, to avoid rejection from spam-preventing recipients, which reject
> mail from dial-up sources) and one for LAN ethernet, allowing a direct SMTP
> connection (i.e. using exim itself as the mail server).
> 
> Is this the sort of situation these network detection programs are designed
> for?

Yes, whereami will reconfigure your mail server for one of three modes:
 - queue only, for disconnected / dialup operation with a smtp server to
   relay to when the queue is flushed
 - relay mode, to deliver mail to a relay immediately on receipt of new
   messages
 - none, for when you have a direct internet connection and wish the mail
   server to do the deliveries itself.

Andrew did the sendmail support and I did the postfix support.  I'm
prepared to do exim support too if there is demand for it.

Chris


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Re: wooky->potato

2001-09-10 Thread Vivek

On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Tom Allison wrote:

> CaT wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 03:04:28PM +0100, Vivek wrote:
> >
> >>Er. I just added the woody lines to my sources.list and did an
> >>
> >>apt-get update
> >>apt-get dist-upgrade
[cut]
> Maybe I have a dumb question.
> After you change the sources.list from 'stable' to 'testing'
> are you supposed to run apt-get upgrade first or apt-get dist-upgrade?
> I've always thought it was apt-get dist-upgrade..
> Is that right?

That's apt-get update, not upgrade. 'update' tells apt to fetch the
up-to-date package lists from/for the specified sources. 'dist-upgrade' is
similar to upgrade, except that it's a lot more aggressive about installing
extra dependencies and stuff, given that it know it has to upgrade across a
whole distribution.

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Wavy Screen using 'Option "Display" "CRT"' on ATI 128 Rage Mobility

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert

I've sent the following message to a couple of the XFree86
mailing lists, and haven't got much back--maybe someone
here can help? Thanks.

I've been working on a Dell Latitude C600 with an
ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (or something like that).
I want to be able to start X up on an external
monitor (as opposed to switching using the FN-F8
key combo after X has already started on the LCD).
My understanding was that adding the
Option "Display" "CRT" line to the Device section
would do this--and indeed it does, except that
instead of starting up clear (like the screen
looks if I switch over using the FN-F8 combo),
it's all wavy and jittery--not flicker such as
you get with a low refresh rate, but more like
every other or every third line of pixels is moving
from side to side very rapidly, or something.

Like I said, if I use the CRT/LCD button to switch,
it works fine. But I want to be able to start up
on the CRT so that I can get a better resolution
and refresh rate. Any ideas? Thanks in advance--

  --Daniel

P.S. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux unstable,
XFree86 4.1.0.1 (according to X -version) on
kernel 2.4.9. Here's my XF86Config. Let me know
if you need more info or have an idea.

XF86Config:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "pex5"
Load  "record"
Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "GlidePointPS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "HWP"
ModelName"HP75"
HorizSync30.0 - 86.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Option  "Display" "CRT"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "ati"
VendorName  "ATI"
BoardName   "Rage 128 Mobility LF"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x960"
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Kernal Image

2001-09-10 Thread Eric Borton

I recently compiled a kernel from v.2.2.19 to v.2.4.4

After the make bzimage command (for those familiar with the process) I was
not able to see the file bzImage in the
/usr/src/kernel-2.4.4-source/.../i386/boot/ folder.  The how-to states a
linux folder in the src folder but for some reason it created the
kernel-2.4.4-source folder.  Anyway, I was expecting to see the bzImage but
did not because I needed this to show lilo where to boot the 2.4.4 kernel or
at least move the file to the /boot folder to have lilo get to it.  Also, I
ran bzdisk.  Does this erase the bzImage and put it onto the disk and that
is the reason I can not find the file?  I am new at the compiling but I was
happy I could get the kernel to boot from the disk.  Thanks for any help.


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Re: pcmcia-cs and configuring network...

2001-09-10 Thread Alexander Clouter

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Werner Heuser wrote:
> >> know intuitively and I think thje other is discover. There is at
> >> least two more.
> > `divine' and maybe some of the ARP packages.
>
> `whereami', which is a suite to detect and configure the network.
> Probably requires a little more scripting knowledge than some of the
> others, though.
>
and the latest version of 'whereami' has a new script that (with the
'arping' (or iputils-arping, we never could work it out)) package
installed will detect the current network automagically depending on
hardware addresses rather than ip address which can be common across
networks :)

Alex

BTW  send thanks on the new script to me ;) 


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Re: Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc

2001-09-10 Thread Brendan O'Connor

On Sunday 09 September 2001 09:03 pm, Scott Bigham wrote:
> This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;)
> since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at
> least some of the questions are laptop-specific.
[...]
>   - XFree86:  3.3.6 -> 4.1.0
>
> My notebook is a Toshiba Portege 7020CT, which has a NeoMagic NM2200
> video chip.  The XFree86 site lists this chip as "Support
> (accelerated)" in 4.1.0;[1] do I lose the acceleration if I use the
> framebuffer?
>
> There's also the question of the XF86Config changes; is there a
> utility to convert an old 3.3.6 config file to the new syntax?

The configuration files for X 4 is actually quite similar, and if anything, 
simpler.  Just save your old one and compare them side by side, and it should 
be fine.



>   - libc6:  2.1.3 -> 2.2.3
>
> This is the one that's really got me worried.  I mean, if this goes
> wrong, it has the potential to break *everything*.  Anything special
> I need to do here?
>
> And, coming full circle, if I do this upgrade before the kernel
> upgrade, do I still need to use the "bunk" versions of the various
> 2.4 utilities,[2] or can I just use the versions from testing?

When I upgraded potato -> woody, the only glitch was some dependencies 
concerning perl 5.6, libc 2.2, and APT.  It ended up that apt,(which uses 
perl) started barfing up on me because the old libc was still installed but 
perl had been upgraded first... It wasn't much of a problem, you just have to 
manually download 1 or 2 packages and dpkg install them if needed.

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Re: Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-10 Thread Tony Crawford

Drew Parsons wrote (on 10 Sep 2001 at 23:36):

> The bit I don't understand is why you can boot from 2.2r0.  It 
doesn't
> work for me (490CDT). 

Oops! You're right, 2.2r0 doesn't boot either. Must have been a 
problem with my memory--the wet one. I could have sworn I have 
(or had) a system here that booted with 0 but not 3, though. 
Maybe I'm confusing 0 with hamm CDs, which I guess are still 
floating around here somewhere. Did I use them as rescue disks 
back when I was getting the PCMCIA on potato-r0 straightened out?

Be that as it may, the worst thing is that the Toshiba is very 
sensitive about boot floppies too. So far I have three for 
Progeny that fail, all at different stages.

Thanks for the background info and sorry for the confusion!

T.


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Re: Wavy Screen using 'Option "Display" "CRT"' on ATI 128 Rage Mobility

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert

Thanks, but I've tried it with quite a few different resolutions.
Right now I'm testing at 1024x768.

  --Daniel
  
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:20:03PM -0400, Yannick Asselin wrote:
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 24
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth 24
> > Modes "1280x960"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> 
> Okay, I'm no expert, but this resolution looks weird. I usually see 1280x1024 ... 
>Maybe 
> that could be the problem??? If that's not it, I can't help you any more than that, 
>sorry.
> 
> Yannick


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IrDA

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Allison

this is what I've got so far...
I did the apt-get install irda-common irda-tools

I commented out all but the following lines in /etc/modutil/irda
alias tty-ldisk-11 irtty
alias char-major-60 ircomm-tty
(i have 2.2.19 kernel)
(I removed all the 'dongles')

options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
alias irda ndc-ircc

I had not /dev/ir* devices so I created some
mknod /dev/ircomm0 c 161 0
mknod /dev/ircomm1 c 161 1

edited /etc/irda.conf to change
DISCOVERY=-s
ENABLE=yes

ran /etc/init.d/irda start

and syslog says:
executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
nsc-ircc, Found chip at base=0x2e
nsc-ircc, driver loaded (Dag Brattle)
nsc-ircc_open(), can't get iobase of 0x2f8
+ /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
+ /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o failed

This repeats twice and that's about all she wrote.
lsmod shows irda, ircomm, ircomm-tty all loaded.
I checked, and I do have the nsc-ircc.o module in the 
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc directory.


irdadump -i /dev/ircomm0 (or ircomm1) both result in:
ioctl: No such device
syslog: modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ircommX


I'm close, but I'm feeling kind of stupid.


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Re: IrDA

2001-09-10 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> and syslog says:
>> executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
>> nsc-ircc, Found chip at base=0x2e
>> nsc-ircc, driver loaded (Dag Brattle)
>> nsc-ircc_open(), can't get iobase of 0x2f8
>> + /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>> + /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o: insmod 
>> /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/nsc-ircc.o failed

It should be nsc-ircc UART emulation probrem.

Could you try the following commands?

# setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none port 0x02f8
# /etc/init.d/irda start
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IR success!(was info: fixed irda-common upgrade to woody)

2001-09-10 Thread Andrew Taylor

Well I was able to get the printer (a BJC-80) working with the Linux IRDA 
stack. I think it had something to do with my kernel configuration. I was 
using the 2.4.8 kernel with the entire IRDA stack modularized. After the 
successful installation of the irda-common and irda-tools packages, the 
output of my irdadump and ifconfig only showed tx packets. Over the 
weekend, I configured the 2.4.9 kernel with CONFIG_IRDA built in and 
modularized all the drivers. (IRCOMM, IRTTY, IRCOMM-TTY, etc, etc) This 
seemed to do the trick. The IR stack found my printer (and phone) with no 
problems and I was able to configure the printer using apsfilterconfig 
(serial, /dev/ircomm0 , 115200) . It did slow my internet connection way 
down - I found out it was sharing IRQ 3 w/ the PC modem. Reinserting the 
modem assigned IRQ 9 to it and everybody was happy.

My system is a Dell Inspiron 7000D. I set the BIOS to SIR (it was set to 
FIR - this seems to be why the printer's IR port didn't work in Windows, 
either)

Andy


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