KDE debs building

2002-09-15 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

as some of you got to know until now, I switched from SuSE to Debian this week 
- - and directly hit the fact that building debs from CVS would work best for 
me to have it working the right way (tm). Now, I got into working with Chris 
lately and we try to fix the issues one by one soon now so that everyone can 
build debs himself but more important, provide debs for KDE constantly that 
work, where also most importantly betas, RC's and finals are provided by the 
day that the packages are build and work optimal on Debian.

The other thing is that third party apps need to be compiled if you like to 
use them. Until now several people do that for the apps they like to run or 
that they are developing using debian as their development platform. The 
problem for the users is that the deb lines for sources.list are spread all 
over and there is no central way of getting the newest apps through debs for 
people that are not necessarily developers like we are. The other thing is 
that as developers, just doing a make install would work but that usually 
messes up our systems, especially as KDE has /usr as its prefix on debian. So 
it would be the best if we could somehow collect our resources and schedule 
building debs and providing them in a central place. 

I talked with Dirk Müller already and some other guys that I use to work with 
at KDE and we should provide that possibility through KDE on ftp.kde.org. 
Wether that will work out just depends on how many people would volunteer to 
participate.

If you're interested, let's come together to finally end this messy system 
where there's certain problems with building debs for us and the KDE users 
using debian, it would surely make things a *lot* easier if we organize 
ourselves and coordinate doing things efficiently.

Thanks for your attention and for volunteering :-)

Ralf
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Re: KDE debs building

2002-09-15 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sunday 15 September 2002 20:08, Yenar Calentaure wrote:

Hi Yenar,

thanks for your kind and quick answer - I've got CVS write access, so does 
Chris. We'll be glad to take any patches and put them into CVS that would 
help automate the build process. I myself have a DSL line so up/download is 
not an issue for me; I could also use the 2mbit line in the company I work 
for now. 

Also, like Charles de Miramon pointed out, we should take care of daily or at 
least weekly builds from CVS that can be installed side by side of a stable 
environment for the translators and doc writers who need a recent KDE from 
CVS but can't/won't want to go through the development process. 

Ralf

> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi
>
> [snip]
> /me has to agree.
>
> > I talked with Dirk Müller already and some other guys that I use to work
> > with at KDE and we should provide that possibility through KDE on
> > ftp.kde.org. Wether that will work out just depends on how many people
> > would volunteer to participate.
>
> I'd like to help. I build most of the debs on regular basis (each
> weekend) but unfortunately i'm seriously limited bandwidth-wise. I can
> provide patches to compile my favorite parts of kde on woody, though.
> Another thing is that qt-copy packaging in cvs is abandoned. I have
> working Qt 3.1 beta 1 mt packages, and i'll probably extend packaging to
> build non-mt versions, too. If someone could apply to cvs, i'd be glad :).
>
> > If you're interested, let's come together to finally end this messy
> > system where there's certain problems with building debs for us and the
> > KDE users using debian, it would surely make things a *lot* easier if we
> > organize ourselves and coordinate doing things efficiently.
>
> I'm definitely interested, but need someone to push my patches to cvs
> and to build debs for download. I can't work in kde cvs (i use cvsup due
> to internet connection issues) and have no write access anyway.
>
> If you are interested, i have mostly-working set of scripts to make
> building kde debs easier. This mostly consists of:
> ./build 
> 
> ./build2  (will continue where build stopped)
> 
> (cd .. && ./apt-archive)
> ./mkdiff  (will create patch from your changes)
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> (or apt-get install if you compile for first time)
>
> It needs quite a lot of space on harddrive and isn't particularly smart,
> but it works for me (tm). mkdiff doesn't work with qt-copy right now,
> but i'll fix that asap.
>
> > Thanks for your attention and for volunteering :-)
>
> Thanks for nice initiative.
>
> > Ralf
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Re: KDE debs building

2002-09-16 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 16 September 2002 17:00, you wrote:
> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Monday 16 September 2002 15:08, peter rockai wrote:
> >
> > Fine, that would help. I've unstable here, so we would have two builds
> > for debian, which is what everyone needs. My builds include having XFree
> > 4.2.1 installed, if that is a requirement for the linking I guess, we
> > should note that these packages only work with XFree 4.2.1. I would even
> > go as far as mirroring the XFree 4.2.1 packages on ftp.kde.org :-)
>
> They will depend on them, I'd guess (dh_shlibdeps). Btw., is it possible
> to apt-get from ftp.kde.org? I build full apt-get repo (only missing
> release file atm). Then it would be as easy as adding ftp.kde.org into
> your sources list and apt-get update/install/upgrade. Don't know about
> the breakage when packages get renamed (as with arts last week :).
That would be fine. We would need someone to set up the apt-get system on 
ftp.kde.org for us.

Dirk, Daniel, how is the status with the ftp server ? Can we get access to 
that ?

> I messed a bit with Xft2 but i'll clean up my system to build correct
> woody debs. I'll improve automation of my build system, so it will work
> alone as far as possible. Most problems with cvs are from compile
> breakage :(.
That's the part that I would like to do; keep up constantly compiling here, 
too. You can't avoid breakage one over the other day sometimes, especially on 
weekends; just that the debian dirs are updated ASAP after developers did 
changes (I build kde from cvs anyway so I would keep that up)

> Atm i don't build all the stuff (i don't have always time to fix
> problems in packages like kdepim or kdeaddons). But i can provide at
> least qt-copy, kdelibs, kdebase and koffice weekly. Kdemultimedia breaks
> because of old xine atm (so i'm forced to use ogg123 instead of noatun
kdemultimedia works for me. I have noatun there :-)
>
> :). I'll have to build xine-lib-cvs package, too, as i see it :).
I used the unstable packages.
>
> ftp.kde.org will end up as experimental addon for debian ;).
Yes, that is the goal here.


> I cvsup every weekend, so i could upload on monday afternoon. I really
> hope that it will be possible. But i'll need to drop them somewhere, so
> if you could provide me with ftp address and login/pass, i would be
> glad.
Yes, we'll do that; even if I would offer my box with an account for you and I 
would collect everything here and put the packages back on ftp if Daniel and 
Dirk won't be willing to give away too many password accounts. Builts should 
be done tuesdays/wednesdays after a cvsup because weekend updates tend to be 
having problems with compilation until monday afternoon/tuesday morning GMT

 Btw., is there someone on the server who could untar if i uploaded
> one huge tarball? I'll try to get automated upload of multiple files
> working at school, but i can't promise anything :(.
Dunno. Maybe Dirk or Daniel know more about that.

Ralf


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Re: KDE debs building

2002-09-16 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 16 September 2002 18:08, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:

Is the below rules file something we can reuse for that ? or are there other 
options ? Then, why not importing it as rules.cvs into every module so we can 
all reuse it for daily builds ?

Ralf

> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Yenar Calentaure wrote:
> > Another thing with debs I dislike atm: The package versions are the same
> > all the time. Sure, apt-get is smart enough to figure out what changed,
> > but you lose overview soon which build you run. I'll bump up version
> > (probably best scheme is 3.0.7-cvsMMDD) at each rebuild, and probably
> > push the patch upstream :). Likewise all changes to packaging should bump
> > package version (they should be mentioned in debian/changelog).
>
> I'm using:
>
> $ cat debian/rules
> #!/usr/bin/make -f
> #
> # Based on Sample debian/rules file - for GNU Hello (1.3) by Ian Jackson.
> #
> # See realsync-files/debian/rules for details!
>
> VERSION=${shell date +'%y%m%d%H%M%S'}
> package=escher-cvs
>
> [...]
>
> binary-indep:   build
>   [...usual stuff...]
> dpkg-gencontrol -isp -v${VERSION}
> -DPackage=${package}-${VIDEO_DSCR} dpkg --build debian/tmp ..
> [...]
>
> I suggest a note in README.Debian:
>
> This package represents a daily build from CVS. Upstream changes are not
> noted in the changelog
>
> And I'd only mention stuff in the changelog if you really tighten some
> Debian specific screw.
> *t
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kdebase deb questions

2002-09-16 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi, 

anyone who can tell me something about these files ? (--list-missing)

Thanks,

Ralf

dh_install: ./debian/tmp/usr/share/fonts/fonts.dir not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/usr/share/fonts/override/fonts.dir not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdebase-apidocs/common not 
installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xresources not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/README not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xreset not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup not installed
dh_install: ./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xwilling not installed

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KDM patch in kdebase

2002-09-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi Chris and others,

could someone have a look at the kdm patch that gets applied to kdebase/kdm 
during debuild ? The patch file fails in one patch; I didn't have the time 
yet to have a look. Also, I'll be busy learning for an exam on next tuesday, 
so please don't expect any checkins from me until next wednesday. Sorry.

Ralf
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kdegames packages dependent on kdebase-dev ?

2002-09-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

I noticed during install that the kdegames packages depend on kdebase-dev 
being installedand I can't explain why that is that way :-)  Anyone who 
has an answer ? 

Ralf
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Re: Tips on launching KDE applications

2002-09-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 21. September 2002 09:04, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have noticed that since I upgraded to KDE 3.0.3, all tips, which appear
> when one launches an application,  generate an extremely large window which
> goes from one border of the screen to the other withouth wrapping the text.
> At first I thought it was a translation problem, but it also happens in
> english and with all applications.
>
> Anybody has experienced this same problem? Is this a Debian ony problem?

Hmmyou experience this with 3.0.3 already ? I thought it was a recently
introduced bug and had nothing to do with my switch from SuSE to Debian, but
apparently it is. Seems we need to look that up in kdelibs then. Any
volunteers to check that ? Schimmi ? :-)

Ralf
>
> Pablo de Vicente
> KDE-es translation team.

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Re: Tips on launching KDE applications

2002-09-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 21. September 2002 09:26, Achim Bohnet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 09:21:59AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > On Samstag, 21. September 2002 09:04, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I have noticed that since I upgraded to KDE 3.0.3, all tips, which
> > > appear when one launches an application,  generate an extremely large
> > > window which goes from one border of the screen to the other withouth
> > > wrapping the text. At first I thought it was a translation problem, but
> > > it also happens in english and with all applications.
> > >
> > > Anybody has experienced this same problem? Is this a Debian ony
> > > problem?
> >
> > Hmmyou experience this with 3.0.3 already ? I thought it was a
> > recently introduced bug and had nothing to do with my switch from SuSE to
> > Debian, but apparently it is. Seems we need to look that up in kdelibs
> > then. Any volunteers to check that ? Schimmi ? :-)
>
> AFAIR it's related to qt-3.0.5.  Try to use an older qt.

...which has other bugs :-)

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Re: kdegames packages dependent on kdebase-dev ?

2002-09-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 21. September 2002 13:28, Yenar Calentaure wrote:
> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi
>
> > I noticed during install that the kdegames packages depend on kdebase-dev
> > being installedand I can't explain why that is that way :-)  Anyone
> > who has an answer ?
>
> I haven't got kdegames, so just guessing...
> a) there is error in kdebase-dev package, so it includes some shared lib(s)
> b) the kdegames control forces dependency on kdebase-dev (this is
> probably bug in kdegames packaging)
> c) it really depends on kdebase-dev :)

Erm, that was kdebase-libs, sorry. That package doesn't exist anymore and 
we're fixing the issue :-) I can't remember why the games should depend on 
anything from kdebase being installed to make them run, therefore it's very 
weird to have a runtime, mind, not a build-dependency on a kdebase-package.

Ralf
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Re: List of available KDE3 Debian packages with versions

2002-09-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 24. September 2002 21:48, Tamas Nagy wrote:

Hi,

thanks for the list !! We were already searching for available debs and for 
apps where we want to make debs for.  The idea is to upload them to 
ftp://upload.kde.org so they can be sorted into the list of apps and provide 
a deb source for people having KDE, so only one sources.list line would last 
to retrieve everything that's available for debian (which makes it *much* 
easier to look up a program in the end, and the KDE mirrors and traffic is 
there anyway).

If you like to participate, just upload your deb and the according source to 
ftp://upload.kde.org.

Thanks,

Ralf


> http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/3.0.3/packages.html
> http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/3.1/packages.html (beta1)
>
> Since we have a bunch of active packagers and apt-sources, many people
> might be confused about the latest/actual/working versions of
> KDE3.0.3/3.1beta1 packages available for Debian.
>
> Recently I compiled a -not complete- list, but enough for an average
> user. This list could be handy to answer these type of questions, and
> prevent others like, "Is xyz package available for KDE3.x.y?"
>
> Again, if you know any other existing package, I will gladly update this
> list...
>
> Enjoy,
> Tamas
>
> PS: I plan to update another script, to help to mirror these packages
> locally, allow people in local communities to distribute the packages,
> and reduce the traffic on original sites...

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Re: resync: qt-copy patch, kde snapshot debs

2002-10-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Tuesday 01 October 2002 15:57, Yenar Calentaure wrote:

Hi,

Yenar, I got your mail(s) yesterday and downloaded the stuff here at work. 
Unfortunately I couldn't have a look at that now and I still need an ftp 
account on ftp.kde.org from Dirk or someone else with access there to upload 
the packages. I've applied the patch here and I'm doing a test build before I 
check in your changes into qt-copy. BTW, there's something like cvsdiff, too 
:-))

Thanks,

Ralf

> Hi!
>
> This is primarily for Ralf Nolden, but others can make use of this, too.
>
> There is a patch for kde-cvs qt-copy (3.1.0):
> url: http://yenar.host.sk/qt-copy-debian-update.diff
>
> I built set of snapshot kde debian packages (made shortly after Beta2
> tag). Please *do not* download them from here, only if you can mirror
> them somewhere (this is on 128Kb analog line...). /me hopes they are
> still there, since admin can remove them quite soon :(.
> url: http://www.gljs.sk/peter/kde-debs.tar.gz
> This is updated packages file (in the one in tarball are mentioned some
> non-existent packages):
> url: http://yenar.host.sk/Packages
>
> If someone is going to mirror them, please notify the list, because i'd
> like to avoid too much load on that line (it is on school server... oh my).
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> yenar
>
> PS: Ralf, did you receive any of my mails from yesterday? I had severe
> problems with my server unfortunately :(.

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kdemultimedia runtime dependencies

2002-10-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi guys &gals,

while setting up the whole stuff here for a clean built again, I noticed that 
even though I had kdemultimedia debs installed, I still missed the following 
packages for compiling:

Setting up cdda2wav (1.10+11a34-1) ...
Setting up cdrdao (1.1.5-3.1) ...
Setting up cdrecord (1.10+11a34-1) ...

Setting up mkisofs (1.10+11a34-1) ...

I think those need to be added to the requires in the according applications 
then ?

Thanks for your advice :-)

Ralf

PS: Due to time limits, I do not intend to work on *real* KDE 3.1 beta 2 
packages. Instead, I try to fix HEAD so that it works (which is enough work 
already to catch up with) and then be ready when the RC1 is coming up and 
gets tagged, so that we can build and upload debs to ftp.kde.org (where you 
can download them). I would be thankful for any hints regarding the Packages 
list files to provide ftp.kde.org as a deb source and how to organize a 
directory structure (say, woody, sid, sarge or stable, testing, unstable) in 
preparation of the 3.1 final.


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KDE packages (3.0.4 and 3.1)

2002-10-06 Thread Ralf Nolden
Hi,

three things :-)

a) Sorry
...for the inconvenience about the Packages.gz file on the ftp server. I 
didn't know why I should create 8 subdirectories in a row just for a beta 
build and that I should have regenerated the Packages.gz file. As said, the 
KDE 3.1 beta2 was not correct anyway so I think this is a minor issue for 
now. more important is that it works for b) and c) correctly :-))

b) KDE-3.0.4 Release
I'm packaging up KDE 3.0.4 for both, sid and woody. Woody gives me a bit of a 
problem in kdelibs-data not installing the files in /etc/kde3 there, so if 
you have any idea why that is, please tell me :-). The woody release will 
include a backport of qt-3.0.5 from unstable and a fix in kdelibs that avoids 
the stretching of the ktipdialog with qt-3.0.5.  At any rate, qt has been 
compiled with -no-xft to avoid application crashes under XFree 4.1, so if 
you're missing antialiasing and you're running XFree 4.2, take the version 
from unstable. Another minor change in kdebase will be that this ugly debian 
background logo will be away by default and be replaced with the usual debian 
logo in the logo field of the greeter in KDM. The default background 
wallpaper will be the default_blue.jpg as is stock with KDE. It's much more 
pleasant to the eyes and you don't want to scare away your users at the login 
screen already, do you ? :-)

c) KDE 3.1 Release (and RC's)
When I'm done with the 3.0.4 packages, I'll switch to HEAD again and help 
solve the remaining issues with the packages there so we can be able to 
provide RC packages when they are due and final packages, too, as soon as the 
KDE release date is coming up and the packagers get the packages provided by 
Dirk Mueller as usual.

I hope you can live with that I'm struggling a bit, but being a Debian user 
since 3 weeks only I hope you can live with that I try to catch up for a week 
:-)

Ralf
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Re: KDE packages (3.0.4 and 3.1)

2002-10-08 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 16:50, Mark Purcell wrote:
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> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:05, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > a) Sorry
> > ...for the inconvenience about the Packages.gz file on the ftp server. I
> > didn't know why I should create 8 subdirectories in a row just for a beta
> > build and that I should have regenerated the Packages.gz file. As said,
> > the KDE 3.1 beta2 was not correct anyway so I think this is a minor issue
> > for now. more important is that it works for b) and c) correctly :-))
>
> Hi Ralf,  Thanks for your efforts with KDE 3.1beta2!
No, it was Yenar who created them. I just uploaded them through my ftp account 
on ktown, that's where the Packages stuff went wrong because I didn't know 
they required all the subdirectories. I hope my versions of 3.0.4 went right, 
we'll see when the announcement is made and downloads can start :-))

Ralf
>
> You don't have to put the packages into subdirectories. You just need to
> regenerate the Packages and Sources files in that directory:
>
> $ dpkg-scanpackages . override | gzip > Packages.gz
> $ dpkg-scansources . | gzip > Sources.gz
>
> Mark
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Re: Problem when listing contents of a directory

2002-10-09 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 23:02, Julien Louis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just upgrading my sid box to kde 3.0.4, and since then I can't list
> my directory with all details, I have this error:
>
> /usr/lib/kde3/konq_listview.so: undefined symbol:
> rename__14KonqOperationsP7QWidgetRC4KURLRC7QStringP7QObjectPCc
>
> Could someone help me ?
It's maybe due to a wrong Qt library version. I have compiled against 
qt-3.0.5-3 from unstable, please make sure you're not using 3.0.3 or anything 
else. If in doubt, recompile Qt from unstable.

Ralf

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Re: Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)

2002-10-09 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 22:18, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> > PS: The source is not APT-get-able due to the restrictions of the
> > ISP;(...
> > PS2: If anybody would like to commit my debian dir (minor updates
> > only) to the CVS, I gladly share it. I do not have KDE CVS
> > account...
>
> I have updated the cvs debian dir of Gideon recently. I will apply
> your fixes to the cvs if you send them to me.
Thanks :-) I would have done that, but if you do that that's fine with me. 
Enough work already :-)

Ralf

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Re: kde 3.0.4 + antialiased fonts

2002-10-10 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 10 October 2002 12:25, Martin Juhlin wrote:
> From release notes for kde 3.0.4 on woody :
> > KDE 3.0.4 Release Notes for Debian 3.0 Woody
> > 
> >
> > 1. Qt 3.0.5 backport
> >
> > Note that due to the fact that Woody ships with XFree 4.1 by default, the
> > Qt libraries have been built with -no-xft. In case you're missing
> > antialiased fonts, please either upgrade to the version in unstable
> > (which is compiled with -xft) or recompile qt-3.0.5 yourself removing
> > -no-xft in
> >  qt-x11-free-3.0.5/debian/rules. Mind that in case you want to use
> > antialiasing, you should install XFree 4.2.x.
>
> Why must I run XFree 4.2.x  for antialiased fonts? What is wrong with
> 4.1.x?
You *can* run KDE with aa fonts on 4.1, but there is certain drivers that 
cause KDE applications to crash with aa enabled. That is why I didn't compile 
qt with -xft to avoid people saying, oh, KDE 3.0.4 apps crash on my woody 
system that I regard to be *stable*. I don't talk around known problems for a 
certain amount of users, the note says, if you don't want xfree 4.2 installed 
that is known to cause less if no problems with aa fonts and use 4.1 from 
woody, fine, but for the sake of the stability of your system, not with aa 
fonts :-)

Ralf
>   Martin

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Re: KDE 3.0.4 MD5checksum

2002-10-10 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 10 October 2002 23:16, Todd Charron wrote:
> I got that error from that server as well.  Switched download.uk.kde.org
> and everything went through fine.  Not sure what's up with
> download.us.kde.org though...

We're wondering about download.us.kde.org, too. Several of the packages have 
md5sum mismatches as we discovered over the day. The only thing that I could 
do was re-check if the sums on the uploaded files on the main KDE ftp server 
were correct (which they were, all ok, same as the ones I have here that I 
uploaded to there). Please use a mirror that works :-/

Ralf

> Todd
>
> On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 17:14, Alexander Opitz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'll update KDE from 3.0.3 to 3.0.4 but I get following MD5 error.
> >
> > Get:1 http://download.us.kde.org ./ konqueror 4:3.0.4-1 [1749kB]
> > Get:2 http://download.us.kde.org ./ noatun-plugins 4:3.0.4-1 [260kB]
> > Get:3 http://download.us.kde.org ./ kdeartwork-theme-desktop 4:3.0.4-1
> > [6572kB]
> > Fetched 8581kB in 1m37s (88.1kB/s)
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/sid/./i386/kdebas
> >e/konqueror_3.0.4-1_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/sid/./i386/kdeadd
> >ons/noatun-plugins_3.0.4-1_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/sid/./i386/kdeart
> >work/kdeartwork-theme-desktop_3.0.4-1_all.deb MD5Sum mismatch
> >
> >
> > Are the packages damaged?
> >
> > Greetings Alex//
> >
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Re: KDE 3.0.4 MD5checksum

2002-10-11 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Friday 11 October 2002 00:47, Nick Boyce wrote:
> >> http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/sid/./i386/kdeba
> >>se/konqueror_3.0.4-1_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
>
> Interestingly, I've been getting exactly the same symptom (and various
> other file content failures and connection failures) for a couple of
> weeks, on our two Woody systems inside our company network behind a
> proxy firewall.
>
> But I think I've just fixed it all (today) by setting :
>acquire::http::queue-depth="0"
> in apt.conf - certainly I had no failures after making this change. I
> may be wrong about the parameter being called "queue-depth" - I'm not
> at a Woody system at the moment - but check out the apt.conf man page,
> where reference is made to this setting being required if your HTTP
> proxy doesn't handle idling a connection properly (or something like
> that) - with data corruption being the result otherwise.
>
> Are you guys behind a proxy firewall ?
Yes, my company as well as my home network. I will try that today in the 
company (my boss started to report this problem yesterday morning when I was 
on an expo, I verified it last night). Part of the problem is, I can run 
md5sum on the ktown server, but I don't have a login on the download.us. 
mirror, so I could run this only on the packages I retrieved here, where I 
had this mismatch.

Ralf
>
> Sorry if this is off-track.
>
> Nick Boyce
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Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-13 Thread Ralf Nolden
  source for 3.0.4, had some 3.0.8 for a while but
>   then they went again :-(
>
> plus there are mirrors of all of the above sites in various states of
> completion and many mirrors are lagging synchronisation by a couple of
> releases.
>
> So if I'm a user and want to have these various packages I need an extra
> couple if not 4 or 5 different apt/sources lines included. If I'm one of
> the many other KDE3 package maintainers (which I am) I have a real problem
> deciding which fork of the above I should build my packages for which I
> then upload to people.debian.org.
>
>
> My proposal is that Debian KDE3 maintainers use the Debian/experimental
> distribution for the coordination of Debian KDE3.
>
> This has the advantages that these packages then become a part of the
> Debian distribution/ mirrors but are flagged as being 'work in progress',
> other Debian KDE3 developers know what the current core is and can
> work to uploading complementary packages to a known state and location.
> All Debian developers are able to upload their packages to the experimental
> distribution by indicating this in the package debian/changelog.
> Once the gcc-3.2 transition is developed then this can be the appropriate
> time to move KDE3 from experimental to unstable.
>
> Mark

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Re: Some clarity

2002-10-18 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Friday 18 October 2002 00:54, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Sorry for re-re-re-re-re-asking, but as the situation for kde3/debian right
> now is, am I right saying that mirrors like
> http://ftp.easynet.be/ftp/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/woody/  contain the one
> and only true version of kde for debian?
Yes.

Ralf
>
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Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Saturday 19 October 2002 10:39, Martin Schulze wrote:

Moin Joey,

> Moin Ralf!
>
> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > well, as much as this would work out, someone has to do the work
> > actually. And regarding the experimental distribution - that brings your
> > work environment to a highly unstable state, not to speak about the
> > packagers having to build the packages on this system.
>
> The experimental distribution is designed for exactly this: Store
> packages that are not yet suitable for unstable.  Packages don't need
> to be uber-unstable to be uploaded to experimental, though.  It could
> also be used as a staging area to store the packages before everything
> is sorted out so they can be uploaded into unstable properly.
Yepp.
>
> Another advantage of using experimental is that everything would
> already be in the Debian archive: overrides, package names for the
> BTS, files in the pool etc. pp.  This would mean that these packages
> could already use the Debian package infrastructure, even though they
> are not yet part of unstable.  However, I doubt that experimental is
> autobuilt, so it'll require manual attention.
That means more work than putting KDE into unstable I guess.

> This will make it easer to upload all relevant packages into unstable
> afterwards.
Ok.

> This is a completely different story, unfortunately.
Yes, understood. But I have to have a build for woody due to our customer 
demand (at credativ where I'm working now). So those builds are made anyway 
and are provided at the same time by KDE for woody users. I'm not speaking 
about updating KDE in woody.

> If you would like to provide newer KDE packages for woody, which would
> probably be a benefit from a users perspective, you'll need to bypass
> the Debian server.  For this purpose, being able to add a line like
> "deb http://debian.kde.org woody main" to apt.sources, would probably
> the best and most logical solution (or switch the name to
> kde.debian.org/net).
Yes, something like this. We'll have to go through the webserver stuff at KDE 
first or just use ftp.kde.org for that.

> Having a native source for additional information, howtos, guidelines
> etc. is always a benefit.  If such documentation is rather static and
> less of a moving target and also dedicated for end-users, it may be
> worth considering the use of www.debian.org.  This will
> "automatically" add translations and is the native source for
> information addressing Debian.
Yay!! I didn't think debian was so developer friendly to KDE stuff :-)) 


> To conclude and since this mail is already quite long, from a core
> developer's perspective I would like to see:
>
>  1. debian.kde.org or kde.debian.org store more recent packages for
> woody for those who would like to run a more recent version than
> the one which is supplied with woody.  This could run on a
> debian.org host (e.g. klecker) or on a kde.org host, and would be
> an "unofficial packges source".
Sure. I don't know about Dirk's concerns about the kde webservers, so I guess 
that will be easier for everyone. 


>  2. In order to provide new packages for the unstable distribution I'd
> like to see the experimental distribution of Debian used, since
> this enables using the entire infrastructure of Debian except for
> the buildds.
Ok. Could you help providing the necessary steps get going so we can upload 
packages ?


>  3. Storing additional information on an easy to remember host like
> debian.kde.org or kde.debian.org is always good.  However, it
> should probably be decided whether some information would also be
> suited for www.debian.org.
It sure will be, because we want KDE to be a part of debian, not the other way 
around :-))

Have a nice weekend,

Ralf


>
> Regards,
>
>   Joey

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kdm in HEAD package

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

I just noticed that the way kdm handles the background greeter settings in 
debian has changed to a very non-standard way of writing it's own 
backgroundrc into /etc/kde3/kdm/, while the way that also the control center 
handles things is to do this inside /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.

Is there a reason or intention why this got broke ? Otherwise, I'll have a 
look into that over the coming days (guess thursday when most of my other 
work is done and I only need to prepare my talks for LWE next week).

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Re: cpu optimisation

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 20:38, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Every now and then I compile kde packages which didn't make it in the kde3
> distribution (yet). I usually make debian packages out of them, which
> involves nothing more then configuring the thing and running dh_make and
> dpkg-buildpackage in the source dir; then installing the .deb package .
>
> But debian has a habit of compiling everything so that it still runs on a
> 386. Since I am only installing those packages on my own machine, I would
> like to know what to manipulate to make these packages optimised for my cpu
> (athlon).
check out the rules files in KDE CVS, e.g. kdelibs/debian/rules.

Ralf
>
> Thx!
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Re: kdm in HEAD package

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 20:31, Chris Cheney wrote:

Hmm...anyway, this is messed up the way it works now. I didn't notice as it 
worked for me up until now, but basically the way that kdm now reads the 
background settings is definetly out of order, so to speak. So it needs 
fixing before the release candidate comes out, because that really sucks if 
you're changing settings that seem to be ok in the control center but never 
work for real.

Ralf

> Ralf,
>
> I am not sure, kde just does it that way, if you look at what I am doing
> with the build it isn't anything special. I did modify
> kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf.c slightly so that it would generate a default
> debian config.  However as far as I can tell I did not modify anything
> wrt a backgroundrc, it just started getting generated a few months ago.
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:14:19PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I just noticed that the way kdm handles the background greeter settings
> > in debian has changed to a very non-standard way of writing it's own
> > backgroundrc into /etc/kde3/kdm/, while the way that also the control
> > center handles things is to do this inside /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.
> >
> > Is there a reason or intention why this got broke ? Otherwise, I'll have
> > a look into that over the coming days (guess thursday when most of my
> > other work is done and I only need to prepare my talks for LWE next
> > week).
> >
> > Ralf

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Re: OpenPGP Plugin

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 23:34, Oracle Administrator wrote:
> KMail complains when I click on certain messages with the dialog that the
> openpgp plugin is not installed.
>
> I am running Debian unstable and apt-get update nightly.
>
> How can I install this plugin?
That's quite complicated and is not yet available as a deb package. It is 
included in the Ägypten project that is connected to the S/MIME stuff.

http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten/
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>
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Advice on deb package needed

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

if anyone has a tip for me how to easily create a .deb package out of 
customized configuration files that should go (with installing the .deb) to 
/etc/skel, so only data files, please let me know ASAP :-)

Thanks,

Ralf
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Re: OpenPGP Plugin

2002-10-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Tuesday 22 October 2002 18:15, David Pashley wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 October 2002 4:55 am, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Monday 21 October 2002 23:34, Oracle Administrator wrote:
> > > KMail complains when I click on certain messages with the dialog that
> > > the openpgp plugin is not installed.
> > >
> > > I am running Debian unstable and apt-get update nightly.
> > >
> > > How can I install this plugin?
> >
> > That's quite complicated and is not yet available as a deb package. It is
> > included in the Ägypten project that is connected to the S/MIME stuff.
> >
> > http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten/
>
> It is a bit easier than ralf thinks, but still not particularly easy.
>
> run:
>   apt-get install libgpgme-dev
>   apt-get source libgpgme6
>
> cd in to gpgme source dir
> edit debian/rules and add --enable-gpgmeplugin to the configure line [0]
> run debuild -us -uc
> then copy the debian/tmp/usr/lib/gpgme dir to /usr/lib
>
> In kmail, load both of the .so files in /usr/lib/gpgme. You should fine
> that they now work.
>
> NOTE: THIS IS NOT SUPPORTED AND THE FILES WILL NOT BE DEALT WITH BY THE
> PACKAGING SYSTEM

Thanks for the hint - is that in unstable or in testing ? I'm working with the 
real stuff (tm) here for a project where I have to go into detail in the 
coming weeks.

Ralf
>
> [0] You will need to check the correct name for this option. use
> "./configure --help"
>
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Re: Current kde.org Debian packages

2002-10-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Wednesday 23 October 2002 10:30, Andy Saxena wrote:
> Am I right in assuming these packages have been compiled against gcc
> 2.95?
>
> There's a lot of talk about incompatibilities in moving to gcc 3.2,
> however I haven't seen any discussion on the problems that will be faced
> by users like me who are using packages from the  KDE 3.x.x series.

If you compile a KDE app with gcc 3.2 on KDE 3.0.4 for sid, the program won't 
work. KDE/Qt are compiled with gcc 2.95 (the "standard" g++ command at the 
time of the build)

Ralf

>
> I hope we don't have a lot of enthusiastic but disappointed users :-}.
>
> -Andy

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Re: KDevelop: API-Index conundrum

2002-10-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 04:03, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> KDevelop (2.13) is trying to make a fool of me. It does not show the
> KDE3 docs in the help tree below "Qt/KDE Libraries". It does show
> entries for projects I have created (one of them deleted in the
> meantime).
>
> Where are these settings stored? I've searched everywhere I could think
> of and then some more and didn't find it.

apt-get install kdelibs4-doc kdebase-doc qt-doc  or something like that should 
help you. It's the HTML API documentation that you need to install.

Ralf
>
> Michael
>
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Re: Documentation kde for debian

2002-10-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 21:55, samuel desseaux wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm a young french developer and user of debian (linux is my great
> passion). I'd like to take part in your project and begin with easy things.
> I'd like to work on the rewriting of the kde  documentation. Is it
> possible? If yes, give me some advices.

Hi Samuel,

thanks for your offer. I would like to bring you in contact with Lauri Watts 
who is the Documentation coordinator at KDE. Please refer to 
developer.kde.org documentation about how to write KDE docs :-)

Welcome and again, thanks for your offer to help.

Ralf
>
> Thank you
>
> Sincerely
>
> Samuel
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Re: kde 3.0.3

2002-10-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 10:28, Martin Lang wrote:

According to the error I'd say you have mixed KDE 2 and KDE 3. You have to 
completely uninstall KDE 2.x before installing KDE 3. Otherwise applications 
will crash or not load - can't help if you messed with your XF86Config-4 
though in addition.

Ralf

> i have also installed xfce and xfce runs without any
> problems so i think my XF86Config is ok.
> i configured my xf86config with debconf
> and debconf put two mouse devices in the
> config! but if i del one of the mouse section
> then the x-server doesn't start, he tell me
> anything about "no screens found".
>
> Arash Bijanzadeh schrieb:
> >I think you mixx configured your mouse. Have you changed your XF86config
> > after ugrading?
> >Try loading just X without any windowmanager
> >
> >>Hello list,
> >>im install debian on my notebook (woody 3.0)
> >>and now i set up kde 3.0.3.
> >>my xserver runs, kde 2 ran.
> >>but kde3 crash if i start it!
> >>here are the output from the xserver:
> >>
> >>--8<---
> >>
> >>(EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device
> >>(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse"
> >>(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type:
> >> MOUSE) KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> >>KCrash: Application Name = ksplash path =  pid = 2575
> >>DCOPServer up and running.
> >>KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> >>KCrash: Application Name = kded path =  pid = 2586
> >>DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-2585' to 'kded'
> >>ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> >>KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> >>KCrash: Application Name = kcminit path =  pid = 2589
> >>KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> >>KCrash: Application Name = knotify path =  pid = 2592
> >>DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-2591' to 'knotify'
> >>ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> >>KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> >>KCrash: Application Name = ksmserver path =  pid = 2596
> >>kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
> >>kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
> >>KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
> >>
> >>waiting for X server to shut down .kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
> >>kdeinit: Exit.
> >>.
> >>-8<
> >>
> >>thanks for help
> >>
> >>bye
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Re: link that breaks konqueror

2002-10-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 14:09, Russell Coker wrote:
> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/07/15/wfat15.xml
>
> The above link causes all Konqueror sessions to hang on my machine.  Can
> someone try replicating this?
>
> I'm using a version of Konqueror that's not from the Debian repository so I
> haven't filed a Debian bug report...
>
Works fine for me on woody + KDE CVS from last week.

Ralf

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Re: Beware official Qt packages

2002-12-11 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 11:44, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> The official Qt packages have just been updated to Qt 3.1 (KDE qt-copy).
Prepare for updating to qt-3.1.1 soon :-) The qt update release should be out 
RSN.

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Re: koffice packages

2002-12-16 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 20:48, Murat Eskiyerli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Koffice packages for sid have a dependency for libqt3c-mt. I suppose you
> meant libqt3-mt library. Is it so? otherwise, it will not install.
I only built the woody version, I guess the version for sid contains this 
because of the prior qt version in sid that used the -c addition for the 
transition to gcc 3.2 phase but is now obsolete.

Can anyone give an update on this regarding the koffice-1.2.1 packages for sid 
and rebuild them please ?  I could start getting a hand on this as soon as 
wednesday.

Ralf

>
> Thanks
>
> Murat
>
> PS. thanks a lot for the hard work.
>
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Re: koffice packages

2002-12-16 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 17. Dezember 2002 02:37, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 02:13:03AM +0100, Ralf Nolden scrawled:
> > On Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 20:48, Murat Eskiyerli wrote:
> > > Koffice packages for sid have a dependency for libqt3c-mt. I suppose
> > > you meant libqt3-mt library. Is it so? otherwise, it will not install.
> >
> > I only built the woody version, I guess the version for sid contains this
> > because of the prior qt version in sid that used the -c addition for the
> > transition to gcc 3.2 phase but is now obsolete.
> >
> > Can anyone give an update on this regarding the koffice-1.2.1 packages
> > for sid and rebuild them please ?  I could start getting a hand on this
> > as soon as wednesday.
>
> KDE 3.1 is waiting until the gcc3.2 transition, which will allegedly
> happen Real Soon Now.
The question was about Qt3 :-) I think there was just a mistake that happened 
building the koffice deb's, that's all. Should have been made with KDE 3.0.5 
and the according Qt 3.0.5 or a correctly updated qt-3.1 from sid which is 
working in sid now with out the -c extension.

Ralf

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qt-3.1.1 out

2002-12-17 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

anthing known how long it takes to have qt-3.1.1 in unstable now that it's out 
? :-)

Ralf
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Re: KDE 3.1 on sarge

2002-12-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 21. Dezember 2002 06:50, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> hi there:
> this may have come up before, but I searched the archive and couldn't found
> my answer, so I decided perhaps it would be best to ask the ML.
>
> I wonder if anyone is aware of any apt-get-able site with kde 3.1 (RC)
> packages for sarge. I have found Karolinas KDE 3.1 packages (
> http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ) but I can't install it on sarge,
> nor could I do so on woody ( it gives unmet dependencies ).
When 3.1 will be released there will also be packages and dependency packages 
for woody available through kde.org. That version will be able to run under 
sarge (works with 3.0.5 packages already).

Ralf

>
> Cheers
> Aryan

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Re: Building debs from CVS

2002-12-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2002 18:41, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> Now after I've got a faster machine it's become realistic to build KDE
> packages from CVS myself. I don't understand, though, how to do it.
> Actually, the building itself boils down to debuild. What concerns me
> are build dependencies among the packages.
>
> Building qt-copy is no problem, as it depends on no other KDE package.
> arts depends on qt-copy, but I really don't want to install the newly
> compiled qt packages before I have build packages for everything else.
>
> So, is it possible, only for the purpose of building, to install
> packages in some non-standard location where they can be (directed to
> be) found when building dependend packages?

Set up a system with debootstrap and chroot into it for building. Do 
installing there when needed for building packages. Basically it comes down 
to the following order:

1. qt-copy
2. arts
3. kdelibs
Then everything else. Only kdeaddons is depending on kdemultimedia-dev and 
libkonq4-dev, which means you need kdemultimedia and kdebase installed.

Beware of installing kdebase packages completely. If you're installing kdm 
with dpkg -i it will start another kdm automatically even inside your chroot 
system which will basically force you to kill it. so just install everything 
from kdebase without kdm to avoid problems.

Ralf

>
> Michael
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KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded

2002-12-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi there,

I just finished uploading packages for KDE 3.0.5a to the kde masterserver. 
After syncing, you should be able to use them over the usual apt-get line:

deb http://download. [your countrycode here] 
.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/ ./

This works for sid (replace woody with sid in the above line) again, too after 
updating the symlink to the according 3.0.4 packages. Packages for sid 
couldn't be built due to the libfontconfig problem (qt-configure check failed 
in the packages), but I guess most people can live with that until christmas 
:-) At least people using KDE 3 on woody can feel secure again :-)

Merry Christmas,

Ralf

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Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded

2002-12-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2002 23:57, David Pye wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
> I've started the process already, but hit a small snag in:
>
> Failed to fetch
> http://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/./i386/kdeadd
>ons/noatun-plugins_3.0.5a-0woody1_i386.deb 404 Not Found
>
> Hmm - is there not a noatun-plugins one yet?
There is.

>
> I've done a --fix-missing, and I'll see what happens! :)
>
> Is it something I should worry about or is it just mirror lag or something
> similar?

The mirrors have to catch up first. I uploaded over the afternoon through my 
dsl line, that's what takes most of the time to get things finished package 
after package is built. 

>
> Anyways, Merry Christmas, and Many Thanks all,
You're welcome,

Ralf
>
> David
>
> On Sunday 22 December 2002 22:22, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > Hi there,
> >
> > I just finished uploading packages for KDE 3.0.5a to the kde
> > masterserver. After syncing, you should be able to use them over the
> > usual apt-get line:
> >
> > deb http://download. [your countrycode here]
> > .kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/ ./
> >
> > This works for sid (replace woody with sid in the above line) again, too
> > after updating the symlink to the according 3.0.4 packages. Packages for
> > sid couldn't be built due to the libfontconfig problem (qt-configure
> > check failed in the packages), but I guess most people can live with that
> > until christmas
> >
> > :-) At least people using KDE 3 on woody can feel secure again :-)
> >
> > Merry Christmas,
> >
> > Ralf
> >
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Re: Building debs from CVS

2002-12-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 02:11, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> On Sunday 22 December 2002 21:40, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2002 18:41, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > > So, is it possible, only for the purpose of building, to install
> > > packages in some non-standard location where they can be (directed
> > > to be) found when building dependend packages?
> >
> > Set up a system with debootstrap and chroot into it for building. Do
> > installing there when needed for building packages. Basically it
> > comes down to the following order:
> >
> > 1. qt-copy
> > 2. arts
> > 3. kdelibs
>
> Thanks, that seems to work. Almost: kdelibs has a build-dependency on
> arts-dev that doesn't seem to exist. Have overriden it and'll see if it
> builds.

I have the following packaging error in kdebase now (HEAD):

debian/kdebase-bin/usr/bin/kdesud: error while loading shared libraries: 
libfakeroot.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/kdebase-bin/usr/bin/kdesud' gave error 
exit status 1
dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 2816

on woody. libfakeroot.so is in 
/usr/lib/libfakeroot/libfakeroot.sohmm...never had this kind of error 
before :-)
>
> I have never before used chroot. Are there any docs that explains how to
> use it sensibly? What are the good practices of chroot-ing? E.g., in
> /var/cache/apt/archives I have created hard links to the
> debs in /var/cache/apt/archives, to avoid having to download loads of
> packages. Is this sound?
I would only rely on the chroot system and not use the cache. But you can of 
course use it I guess.

Ralf
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> Michael
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KDevelop 2.1.4 and KDoc for woody uploaded

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

I just uploaded kdevelop-2.1.4 from the KDE 3.0.5 release together with a kdoc 
from HEAD (which doesn't have much changes, just rusty's updates for the 
debian dir). The Packages and Sources files have been updated, too, so if 
you're using KDE-3.0.5a packages from yesterday, an apt-get update should 
bring it to you :-)

The kdebindings package won't compile due to problems in the qtc source which 
require linked-in qt styles which are used as plugins in qt in case you may 
ask where that package is.

Ralf
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Re: Building kdelibs (unstable) from source package?

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 14:14, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> I'm trying to build the kdelibs (3.0.4; unstable) from the source
> package, but for some reason that I don't understand it fails. Here are
> the last few lines of output from debuild -us -uc
>
> *** Creating configure.in
> make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make[3]: Entering directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make[3]: Entering directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> *** Creating aclocal.m4
> *** Creating configure
> *** Creating config.h template
> WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `config.h.bot'
> WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `config.h.in'
> WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged.
>
> WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and
> WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows to define a template without
> WARNING: `acconfig.h':
>
> WARNING:   AC_DEFINE([NEED_MAIN], 1,
> WARNING: [Define if a function `main' is needed.])
>
> WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, see the
> WARNING: documentation.
> autoheader2.50: `config.h.in' is created
> *** Creating Makefile templates
> automake: kdoctools/Makefile.am: object `kgzipfilter.$(OBJEXT)' created
> both with libtool and without
>
> [snip]
>
> automake: kjs/Makefile.am: object `property_map.$(OBJEXT)' created both
> with libtool and without
> automake: kjs/Makefile.am: object `nodes2string.$(OBJEXT)' created both
> with libtool and without
> automake: kparts/tests/Makefile.am: object `notepad.$(OBJEXT)' created
> both with libtool and without
> make[1]: *** [cvs] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/kdelibs-3.0.4'
> make: *** [configure-stamp] Error 2
> debuild: fatal error at line 456:
>
> I suspected the problem was due to autoconf/-make or something and
> downgraded to autoconf2.53, which didn't help, though.

Use automake 1.5, autoconf 2.53, uninstall libtool.

And build 3.0.5a which includes the security patches :-)

Ralf
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>
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Re: Building kdelibs (unstable) from source package?

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 16:06, Julien Louis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:20:16PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > And build 3.0.5a which includes the security patches :-)
>
> The compile fails when i use gcc-3.2, but works when i use gcc-2.95.
> When i run the configure script it fails at:
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt)
> not found. Please check your installation!
> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!
>
> Any solution to use gcc-3.2 ?
Recompile qt-3.0.5 with gcc-3.2 ?

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Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2002 23:22, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I just finished uploading packages for KDE 3.0.5a to the kde masterserver.
> After syncing, you should be able to use them over the usual apt-get line:
>
> deb http://download. [your countrycode here]
> .kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/ ./

I updated kdelibs to -0woody2 today because it was missing the ktip patch. If
your ktip windows are too wide, update :-)

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Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 20:07, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
>  Ralf,
>
>  First of all thanks for you effort. Now the bad news. I have upgraded from
> 3.0.4 to 3.0.5a and in the change I have recovered an old bug, the message
> window with tool tips that usualy appears when starting applications spans
> the whole screen instead of having a reasonable size. This problem was
> solved for some 3.0.x release but has reappeared again and I am almost sure
> it does not depend on libqt-3.0.5-4 because I have only upgraded the KDE
> packages and not the qt library.

Fixed this afternoon, please update. It's a known bug in kdelibs with qt > 
3.0.3 where I used a patch for the 3.0.4 packages to work around that and 
forgot to apply that yesterday and remembered it tonight :-)

Ralf
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> regards,
>
> Pablo de Vicente.

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Re: Building kdelibs (unstable) from source package?

2002-12-23 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 23:24, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> On Monday 23 December 2002 14:20, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 14:14, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > > I'm trying to build the kdelibs (3.0.4; unstable) from the source
> > > package, but for some reason that I don't understand it fails.
> >
> > Use automake 1.5, autoconf 2.53, uninstall libtool.
>
> Sigh. Is there any way to understand this stuff? I have no idea how I
> would have had to go about to find this out for myself. Some time ago
> I've even (partially) read the Autoconf book, but it doesn't help in
> cases such as this.
>
> > And build 3.0.5a which includes the security patches :-)
>
> Do the (binary) packages work on unstable, too? I don't yet get that
> much fun out of building the packages. In fact, for 3.0.x I'm only
> doing it because I want to track down why Bookcase instantly crashes on
> my system. For this, I need some way to debug into kdelibs and qt and I
> only want to build them myself.
I'd give it a try, but debugging *into* kdelibs and qt requires a kdelibs and 
qt with debugging enabled. Which you haven't unless you build them yourself 
:-)

I'd try debugging the program first.

Ralf

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Re: Building kdelibs (unstable) from source package?

2002-12-24 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2002 12:56, Julien Louis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 16:06, Julien Louis wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:20:16PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > And build 3.0.5a which includes the security patches :-)
> > >
> > > The compile fails when i use gcc-3.2, but works when i use gcc-2.95.
> > > When i run the configure script it fails at:
> > > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt)
> > > not found. Please check your installation!
> > > For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> > > Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!
> > >
> > > Any solution to use gcc-3.2 ?
> >
> > Recompile qt-3.0.5 with gcc-3.2 ?
>
> I also tried with kde 3.1rc5 and it seems it doesn't work when i
> recompile qt-3.1.1+cvs.20021220, i have the same error.
qt-3.1.1+cvs in unstable works again. It is compiled with gcc 2.95 because not 
all dependencies are ported over to gcc 3.2, so you will have a hard time 
using gcc-3.2 by default anyway.

Ralf
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Re: Failure building arts 1.0.5 for PowerPC

2002-12-25 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2002 15:13, Niklaus Giger wrote:
> On Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2002 16.47, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2002 13:53, Niklaus Giger wrote:
> > > I tried to compiler the arts source (downloaded via apt-source arts on
> > > my x86-system) for PowerPC and got
> > > the following error when calling
>
> <...>
>
> > > Any hints?
> >
> > Use automake 1.5 and autoconf 2.53.
>
> Sorry for not noticing that I had autoconf 2.57.
> But aftewards debuild did take quite a long time to complete.
> I also builded koffice 1.2. without problems.
>
> In kdeadmin I manually remove kcmlilo from debian/control as
> this does not make sense on PowerPC.
>
> Thanks a log for your efforts! Finally we are able to use all the
> KDE programs in german and korean (for my wife!). Great!
Would you like to make your debs availabe officially through kde.org ? I mean, 
if you can afford to upload them regularly. We would be thankful for building 
debs for PowerPC (though my colleague now wants to build those, too and for 
us it would be no problem to upload them from our company or through DSL but 
he's running sid and I'd like woody deb's, too ;-)

Ralf

>
> Best regards

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Re: KOffice depends

2002-12-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 26. Dezember 2002 02:29, Greg Madden wrote:
> I tried to install Koffice Kpresenter 1.2.1 from
> ftp://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1
> I am somewhat confused by the readme. I have a Debian testing system with
> KDE 3.0.5a, kdelibs4?. The Koffice package depends on kdelibs3 which I
> think is KDE 2.2.x stuff.

Please use this deb-line in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./

That will install koffice 1.2.1 for woody on a kde-3.0.5a cleanly; I just 
tested it in my chroot that I used for building kde-3.0.5a.

Ralf
>
>
> From the readme:
> --info about the current KOffice 1.2.1 Debian packages
> -
> These packages are built with the current stable KDE release, that means
> KDE 3.0.x.
>
> Greg Madden

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Re: KOffice depends

2002-12-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 26. Dezember 2002 11:32, tomas pospisek wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody
> > ./
>
> for whatever reason the "download" URLs just don't work:
>
> $ ping download.de.kde.org
> ping: unknown host download.de.kde.org
> $ ping download.ch.kde.org
> ping: unknown host download.ch.kde.org
>
> [uk] responds but won't let me connect - yesterday it did though.
>
> While trying yesterday some mirrors didn't seem to have an identical
> directory structure in place.
>
> This makes apt-get update(-ing) a pain. There's something broken with
> kde's mirrors.

Country codes don't work for all countries. In fact just for a couple of them. 
For a complete list, have a look at www.kde.org, section mirrors. And watch 
out that your mirror is a http mirror also :-)

Ralf
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Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi, 

I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the 
KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this build 
are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from unstable; all version 
numbers in the revision lower so you can update to sid if you like. Packages 
file is included, so a deb line like:

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./

should work for you.

The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add third-party KDE 
debs, speak up :-)

Ralf
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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 13:22, Andreas Richter wrote:
> Am Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 13:14 schrieb Ralf Nolden:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this
> > build are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from unstable; all
> > version numbers in the revision lower so you can update to sid if you
> > like. Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
> >
> > should work for you.
> >
> > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)
> >
> > Ralf
>
> Hi Ralf,
>
> great works!
> but is this release stable enough for a productiv system? or is it better
> to wait for the final 3.1 release of kde?
I think it should work for a productive system, the 3.1 finals won't differ 
much. If you want to stay on the super-safe side, then use KDE 3.0.5a from 
KDE that I build last week.

BTW I just found that *ahem* kdm depends on debconf >=1.2.9 so I'll rebuild 
kdebase so upgrading works :-)

Ralf

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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 13:33, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 13:22, Andreas Richter wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 13:14 schrieb Ralf Nolden:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > > KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this
> > > build are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from unstable;
> > > all version numbers in the revision lower so you can update to sid if
> > > you like. Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> > >
> > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
> > >
> > > should work for you.
> > >
> > > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)
> > >
> > > Ralf
> >
> > Hi Ralf,
> >
> > great works!
> > but is this release stable enough for a productiv system? or is it better
> > to wait for the final 3.1 release of kde?
>
> I think it should work for a productive system, the 3.1 finals won't differ
> much. If you want to stay on the super-safe side, then use KDE 3.0.5a from
> KDE that I build last week.
>
> BTW I just found that *ahem* kdm depends on debconf >=1.2.9 so I'll rebuild
> kdebase so upgrading works :-)

Fixed, upload finished and Packages file regenerated. Should work for plain 
woody now.

Ralf
>
> Ralf
>
> --
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> 
> Ralf Nolden
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>
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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 14:50, you wrote:
> >>I think it should work for a productive system, the 3.1 finals won't
> >> differ much. If you want to stay on the super-safe side, then use KDE
> >> 3.0.5a from KDE that I build last week.
>
> What is needed in the deb htp:// etc., to get KDE 3.0.5a to be save...???

deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./

and for koffice:

deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./


Ralf

> Thanks
> Larry
>
> >>BTW I just found that *ahem* kdm depends on debconf >=1.2.9 so I'll
> >> rebuild kdebase so upgrading works :-)
> >
> >Fixed, upload finished and Packages file regenerated. Should work for
> > plain woody now.
> >
> >Ralf
> >
> >>Ralf
> >>
> >>--
> >>We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs.
> >>
> >>Ralf Nolden
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>The K Desktop Environment   The KDevelop Project
> >>http://www.kde.org  http://www.kdevelop.org
> >
> >- --
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> >- 
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Re: new kde 3.1 packages from Ralph Nolden and Konsole

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 15:52, Russell Coker wrote:
> I am now running Ralph's packages on Debian/unstable.  There were a few
> issues installing it as the conflicts weren't quite right but I didn't
> bother tracking that for bug reports as I had previously been running 3.0.4
> (not an official Debian packaging).
>
> Now when I run konsole I see the following messages below.
>
> Being unable to chown /dev/pts/3 is fine as I own it anyway.  /dev/ptmx is
> not strange at all, it's the standard PTY master for Unix98 PTY support (it
> even was in Linux 2.2.x so it's not even new).
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ konsole
> Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
Fontconfig not confiugred. There's some issues that were there with fontconfig 
in sid recently, thats why I didn't bother for a 3.0.5a for sid.

BTW: I updated kdeaddons as I was missing a 4: in the changelog so updating 
from 3.0.5a didn't work right. I also added kdeedu now and koffice is 
compiling, so I will add that too as kpresenter can't be used from 
stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody due to the package dependency there to 
libarts1-qt which isn't there anymore in KDE 3.1.

Ralf

> kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: found no definition of PluralForm for en_GB
> konsole: cannot chown /dev/pts/3.
> Reason: Operation not permitted
> konsole_grantpty: determined a strange device name `/dev/ptmx'.
> konsole: chownpty failed for device /dev/pts/3::/dev/pts/3.
>
>: This means the session can be eavesdroped.
>: Make sure konsole_grantpty is installed in
>: /usr/bin/ and setuid root.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/konsole_grantpty
> -rwsr-xr-x1 root root 4956 Dec 27 17:44
> /usr/bin/konsole_grantpty
>
>
> But this is a minor thing, before this I couldn't even run Konsole...
>
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koffice-1.2.1 included in kde-3.1-branch debs

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

last (hopefully :-) update for today; I recompiled koffice-1.2.1 to work with 
the kde-3.1-branch debs for woody. They can be installed in one go with the 
same deb line used for the kde-3.1-branch debs.

Ralf
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Re: new kde 3.1 packages from Ralph Nolden and file handles

2002-12-28 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 28. Dezember 2002 16:09, Russell Coker wrote:

I just received a message from Dirk Müller saying that this bug has been 
already fixed in HEAD.

Thanks,
Ralf

> Here is a demonstration of a problem that was in kde 3.0.4 as well.  I have
> run the command "sleep 100" twice, PID 6482 is from Konsole, PID 6493 is
> from an Xterm launched by selecting the "Run Command" menu option and
> typing "xterm".  I used "sleep" to demonstrate this problem as it's a
> program that hangs around, it doesn't do much else to distract us from the
> problem at hand, and it's something that everyone has to reproduce the
> problem.
>
> Notice that in the copy of sleep run from konsole (6482) the file handles
> are what you expect, a few shared object, a controlling tty, a home
> directory and a root directory.
>
> Notice that in the copy of sleep run from xterm (6493) there are also open
> file handles for two named pipes and the ~/Desktop directory.  I believe
> that this is a minor security risk.  If I run an xterm and then use it to
> run a SUID wrapper program that runs an insecure or hostile program then if
> that wrapper program does not close all file handles (su does but other
> programs may not) then the hostile program may get access to ~/Desktop in
> my home directory!
>
> I discovered this bug through my SE Linux logs.  Some programs were logged
> as inheriting file handles that they were not allowed to access when I used
> an xterm.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsof | grep sleep
> sleep6482  rjc  cwdDIR3,76640  2015 /home/rjc
> sleep6482  rjc  rtdDIR3,2 584 2 /
> sleep6482  rjc  txtREG3,2   11336 49958 /bin/sleep
> sleep6482  rjc  memREG3,2   82348  7970
> /lib/ld-2.3.1.so sleep6482  rjc  memREG3,2  130964 
> 8840 /lib/libm-2.3.1.so sleep6482  rjc  memREG3,2   26592  
>   26552
> /lib/librt-2.3.1.so
> sleep6482  rjc  memREG3,2 1102952  8292
> /lib/libc-2.3.1.so sleep6482  rjc  memREG3,2   81959
> 26556
> /lib/libpthread-0.10.so
> sleep6482  rjc0u   CHR  136,2  1716 /dev/pts/2
> sleep6482  rjc1u   CHR  136,2  1716 /dev/pts/2
> sleep6482  rjc2u   CHR  136,2  1716 /dev/pts/2
> sleep6493  rjc  cwdDIR3,76640  2015 /home/rjc
> sleep6493  rjc  rtdDIR3,2 584 2 /
> sleep6493  rjc  txtREG3,2   11336 49958 /bin/sleep
> sleep6493  rjc  memREG3,2   82348  7970
> /lib/ld-2.3.1.so sleep6493  rjc  memREG3,2  130964 
> 8840 /lib/libm-2.3.1.so sleep6493  rjc  memREG3,2   26592  
>   26552
> /lib/librt-2.3.1.so
> sleep6493  rjc  memREG3,2 1102952  8292
> /lib/libc-2.3.1.so sleep6493  rjc  memREG3,2   81959
> 26556
> /lib/libpthread-0.10.so
> sleep6493  rjc0u   CHR  136,3  1734 /dev/pts/3
> sleep6493  rjc1u   CHR  136,3  1734 /dev/pts/3
> sleep6493  rjc2u   CHR  136,3  1734 /dev/pts/3
> sleep6493  rjc6r  FIFO0,5   1065293 pipe
> sleep6493  rjc7w  FIFO0,5   1065293 pipe
> sleep6493  rjc   13r   DIR3,7 688  4285
> /home/rjc/Desktop [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
>
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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 12:02, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 12:14 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this
>
> I'm using these on unstable with only one problem that I have not reported
> elsewhere
>
> kamera depends on libexif5 - whereas in unstable libexif5 does not exist
> and is replaced by libexif7
That's because of shlibs-depends. As the packages are made for woody it'll 
pick up libexif5 instead of libexif7. I try to get around backporting 
packages from unstable as much as possible so upgrades to kde-3.1 should only 
require minimal upgrades of third-party packages.

While you mention kamera - I build digikam, too. Now, out of interest, does 
anyone have a clue if there is a hotplug package that works like the SuSE one 
where a usb device is assigned to the group audio instead of root ? That's 
the way they work for making a device available to the user, in particular 
digicams (and scanners I think).

Ralf
>
> because kdegraphics depends on kamera, it fails to install, leaving several
> other packages also uninstalled.  (but which I have managed to install
> separately and manually).
>
> I am not sure what the way around this (libexif7 presumably depends on a
> later version of lib6c than is in woody so just including that in the
> archive would not work)
>
> --
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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 12:47, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
> El Sábado 28 de Diciembre de 2002 13:14, Ralf Nolden escribió:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this
> > build are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from unstable; all
> > version numbers in the revision lower so you can update to sid if you
> > like. Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
> >
> > should work for you.
> >
> > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)
> >
> > Ralf
>
>  Ralf,
>
>  Many thanks for offering these packages. I am missing the kde-i18n-xx
> packages. In particular kde-i18n-es.

I'm just building a set of additional programs that I think are useful and add 
them to that, particularly some minor fixes in kdevelop (the 3.0.5a package 
has version number 2.1.3 instead of 2.1.4 in the .desktop files plus I added 
some Recommends for doxygen | kdoc, qt3-tools (replacing 
kde-designer/qt-designer with qt-3.1.1) and the kde2.0 development book 
package), then kile, ks3switch+ backport of s3switch from unstable, kickpim 
etc.).

I'll see if I can rebuild the kde-i18n-packages from the CVS branch besides 
that (makes me always run out of diskspace *grr*)

Ralf
>
> regards,
>
> Pablo.

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Re: new kde 3.1 packages from Ralph Nolden and Konsole

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 15:01, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:59, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > Now when I run konsole I see the following messages below.
> > >
> > > Being unable to chown /dev/pts/3 is fine as I own it anyway.  /dev/ptmx
> > > is not strange at all, it's the standard PTY master for Unix98 PTY
> > > support (it even was in Linux 2.2.x so it's not even new).
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ konsole
> > > Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
> >
> > Fontconfig not confiugred. There's some issues that were there with
> > fontconfig in sid recently, thats why I didn't bother for a 3.0.5a for
> > sid.
>
> But what about the inappropriate error messages about chown and /dev/ptmx?
Sorry, I have absolutely no idea where that could come from. I didn't see the 
error before either so it's questionable if the problem is on your side only 
or notcould you try to track down your problem a bit more ?

Ralf

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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 14:29, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > KDE_3_1_BRANCH [...]
> > Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
>
> Thank you Ralf for your work.
>
> I have some problems with kbugbuster which shows no icons, but gives that
> message:
>   libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.1
>   libpng warning: Application  is running with png.c from libpng-1.0.12
>   libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
>
> The same problem appears with kpovmodeler.
Hmm strange. kbugbuster is in kdesdk and kpovmodeller in kdegraphics. Which 
libpng versions do you have installed ?

>
> > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)
>
> Well, what about a gideon snapshot (would it even be possible to install is
> besides kdevelop2?) and kvim? ;-)
I just took Karolina's debian dir for kdeextragear-1 and besides some fiddling 
I'm still compiling :-) I guess I'll check everything and check in the stuff 
that's needed into CVS.

Regarding gideon, you can run it besides kdevelop (that's by intention so you 
can use both for now until gideon is stable). I'll see if I can build a 
package, including the new valgrind plugin plus a valgrind version from 
unstable. kcachegrind may be useful, too :-)

>
>
> Regards
>
> Dirk, trying to find out how to get kmail work with S/MIME
http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten/development.en.html is your friend :-)  I'll add 
that too anyway soon because that is one thing that I earn my living with at 
credativ :-)

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Re: new kde 3.1 packages from Ralph Nolden and screen blanking

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 14:31, Russell Coker wrote:
> Since installing the new packages my screen lock doesn't work properly. 
> The screen blanker starts after some inactivity as expected, it prompts me
> for a password, but never lets me in!
>
> Nothing relevant is logged.
>
> My account data is stored in LDAP and the PAM LDAP module is used, this
> worked fine in KDE 3.0.4.
No idea either. Are you using unstable + my kde-3.1 packages or plain woody ?

Dirk, is there something known about ?

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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2002 16:16, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> > > > I have some problems with kbugbuster which shows no icons, but gives
> > > > that message:
> > > > libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from
> > > > libpng-1.2.1 libpng warning: Application  is running with png.c from
> > > > libpng-1.0.12 libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in
> > > > application and library
> > > >
> > > > The same problem appears with kpovmodeler.
> > >
> > > Hmm strange. kbugbuster is in kdesdk and kpovmodeller in kdegraphics.
> > > Which libpng versions do you have installed ?
> >
> > I've got the current libpng2, libpng3 and libpng-dev debs from Woody
> > installed.
>
> Could this be the problem?:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ldd /usr/bin/kbugbuster | grep libpng
> libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x40f03000)
> libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x411f8000)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ldd /usr/bin/kpovmodeler | grep libpng
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> libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x412e6000)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ldd /usr/bin/kbabel | grep libpng
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> libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x41078000)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ldd /usr/bin/kmail | grep libpng
> libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x4108)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ldd /usr/bin/kate | grep libpng
> libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x40d06000)
>
*sigh* I know now where that is coming from. I think kdegraphics which I 
compiled before kdesdk requires imlib-dev. Imlib depends on libpng2-dev in 
woody, thus istalled libpng2-dev and that made all apps link agains libpng2 
*and* they're linked agains libpng3 through qt. Not an easy fix :-) I guess I 
have to recompile imlib to fix this...

Ralf
> cervisia and kompare are also linked against libpng.so.2 and libpng.so.3
> and do not show any icons either.
>
>
> Dirk

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woody deb's for 3.1 branch.....

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Ok guys, I've had my share now - have fun with imlib :-)

I'm sorry that this happened so late (because otherwise it would be easier to 
correct things), but I guess that's why I made the packages so nobody can 
complain with the 3.1 release coming out :-)

Dirk's observation with libpng is correct and it's due to imlib. So this time, 
I installed imlib-dev together with libpng2-dev and changed the qt 
dependencies to using libpng2 instead so kdegraphics will build. 
Unfortunately rebuilding imlib with libpng3 (which would be the easiest) will 
break all other apps using imlib who are also linked against libpng2. So 
there's no way out of that.

The bad news is that things won't fit against unstable. So all unstable users 
won't have too much fun with the woody debs because of that, or they need to 
pin their qt version to my one instead to the one in unstable which *is* 
linked against libpng3 (and I think imlib2 is linked against libpng3 too 
there)

I'll rebuild qt and kde and update the whole thing. I'm sorry.

Ralf
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Re: woody deb's for 3.1 branch.....

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 30. Dezember 2002 01:31, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > [...]
> > Dirk's observation with libpng is correct and it's due to imlib. So this
> > time, I installed imlib-dev together with libpng2-dev and changed the qt
> > dependencies to using libpng2 instead
>
> Hmm, due to Woody's original libqt3 is linked against libpng3, I don't
> think it'd be a good idea.
Ouch, yes. So the only solution is - removing kuickshow from the packages list 
together with the imlib dependency..:-(

> > [...] so kdegraphics will build.
>
> Isn't kuickshow the only component needing imlib?
> If that's right, I wouldn't mind not having it within the KDE 3.1 packages
> -just like before in KDE 3.0. Maybe it's possible to get kuickshow linked
> statically, if someone misses kuickshow much?
Well, I'll see what we can do about kuickshow. I'll exclude it from the build 
together with the dependency on woody; and there's always kview avaialble.

Carsten, do you have any idea about how to avoid this libpng problem by not 
using imlib ? :-)

Ralf
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dirk

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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available -kdepim and noatun

2002-12-29 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 30. Dezember 2002 03:02, Robert wrote:
> On Saturday 28 December 2002 07:14, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from
> > the KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in
> > this build are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from
> > unstable; all version numbers in the revision lower so you can update
> > to sid if you like. Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
> >
> > should work for you.
> >
> > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)
> >
> > Ralf
>
> Ralph,
> Thanks much for these packages.  I had been wondering if it would be
> possible to backport 3.1 to Woody and am wondering no longer.  :)
>
> Everything so far seems great (in the little time I've had to test)
> except:
> 1. kaddressbook seems to be orphaned - shouldn't it be part of the
> depends for kdepim?
I'll check that later. Right now I feel very much that the whole thing sucked 
due to the imlib problems :-/  so this time I'll use teambuilder to package 
the stuff once and for all :-)

> 2. noatun was crashing[1], and this was not solved by the usual generic
> fixes of cleaning out /tmp , ~/.DCOP* and  ~/.mcop etc.   A recompile
> using a 021229 snaphot tar.gz package  has solved that for me.
>  (though it was a bit of a hack to get debuild to work)
Can't say much about that yet.

> Will you be providing some source packages too at some point ?
Yes, but I'm lucky enough to upload the binaries over DSL. I guess the best is 
to only upload sources for the release, otherwise I'll never get the binaries 
uploaded at all - DSL is really a pain when it comes to uploading :-/

>
> As a side note,  I compiled it --with-lame which I realize can not be
> done with official packages, so I have mp3 dirs with audiocd://:)
I use to do that with my packages, too :-) but as you say, can't be done with 
official packages.

Ralf

>
>
> Thanks again for your great work!
>
> all the best,
> Robert_L
>
> [1] if you are at all interested the backtrace is here:
> http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/noatun.backtrace

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Re: Woody debs of the KDE_3_1_BRANCH available

2002-12-30 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Montag, 30. Dezember 2002 17:54, James Hirschorn wrote:
> aptitude complains that it cannot find a Packages file, and I can't see one
> when I browsed the address you gave. Did it go missing?

Yes. I removed it to avoid further mess. Please be patient, I'm rebuilding the 
branch from today. *sigh*. I'll upload as soon as packages are finished.

Ralf


>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On December 28, 2002 07:14 am, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've build a set of woody debs (that's moving to the release) from the
> > KDE_3_1_BRANCH which will be merged into RC6 I think. Included in this
> > build are backports of directfb, xine-lib and xine-ui from unstable; all
> > version numbers in the revision lower so you can update to sid if you
> > like. Packages file is included, so a deb line like:
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde-3.1-branch/woody ./
> >
> > should work for you.
> >
> > The checkout is from yesterday (Dec 27). If you like me to add
> > third-party KDE debs, speak up :-)

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Re: Karolina debs - font anti-aliasing not working

2002-12-30 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 00:16, Florian Struck wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 December 2002 00:10, Timo Springmann wrote:
> > hi,
>
> -snipsnip-
>
> > to compile my own qt? Or is there another way to re-enable font
> > anti-aliasing (and, oh yes, I tried the button in the kde control center
> > _really_ often - withou success.)
> >
> > System: Debian/unstable; KDE3.1RC5-Karolina; libqt 3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1
>
> -snipsnip-
>
> Same phenomene here.
> Everything else working fine.
> Great job.
> Florian

tried re-running xftcache lately ?

Ralf

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imlib problems and KDE builds for woody

2002-12-30 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi there,

ok, I've tracked down to see how to solve the problem with kuickshow in 
kdegraphics and imlib. Now. There's the following situation:

Woody contains imlib1:

imlib1  
- -> /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1
- -> /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1.9.14

Unstable contains imlib2:

imlib2

- -> /usr/lib/libImlib.so.2
- -> /usr/lib/libImlib.so.2.0.0

Both can be installed in parallel. Which means, apps that use imlib1 in woody 
aren't affected by an installation of imlib2 from unstable. I guess that was 
the thought behind increasing the major number to 2 in unstable :-)

I've backported imlib2 from unstable which I'll ship in the dependencies so 
kuickshow will work for anyone without any problems of using the imlib1 
library/package together with applications that require it. I hope that 
solves most of your concerns now with a minimum of packages from unstable to 
backport and install on a woody system to run KDE 3.1 completely.

If you have any objections, speak up :-)

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Re: woody deb's for 3.1 branch.....

2002-12-31 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 12:17, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 02:15:31AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Ouch, yes. So the only solution is - removing kuickshow from the packages
> > list together with the imlib dependency..:-(
> >
> > > > [...] so kdegraphics will build.
> > >
> > > Isn't kuickshow the only component needing imlib?
> > > If that's right, I wouldn't mind not having it within the KDE 3.1
> > > packages -just like before in KDE 3.0. Maybe it's possible to get
> > > kuickshow linked statically, if someone misses kuickshow much?
> >
> > Well, I'll see what we can do about kuickshow. I'll exclude it from the
> > build together with the dependency on woody; and there's always kview
> > avaialble.
> >
> > Carsten, do you have any idea about how to avoid this libpng problem by
> > not using imlib ? :-)
>
> HUH. I thought this problem was solved long ago by providing another Imlib
> package, linked against libpng3?
Sorry, forgot to add you to CC on my last mail. I've backported imlib2 from 
unstable which has an increased major number to libImlib-2.0.0 so imlib1 and 
imlib2 packages can be installed in parallel. I'll provide imlib2 packages 
with the build so kuickshow works.

Ralf
>
> Statically linking Imlib might be another option indeed. KView is not a
> replacement for KuickShow.
>
> Cheers
> Carsten Pfeiffer

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Re: woody deb's for 3.1 branch.....

2002-12-31 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 14:54, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 December 2002 12:31, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Sorry, forgot to add you to CC on my last mail. I've backported imlib2
> > from unstable which has an increased major number to libImlib-2.0.0 so
> > imlib1 and imlib2 packages can be installed in parallel. I'll provide
> > imlib2 packages with the build so kuickshow works.
>
> Imlib1 and Imlib2 are completely different beasts. KuickShow does neither
> build nor work with Imlib2.
That's the package number. Essentially, it's the same source (1.9.x) than the 
imlib1 package utilizes. Just the major version number has been increased to 
2.0.0 to make it possible to use both

Ralf
>
> Cheers
> Carsten Pfeiffer

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New debs for woody

2002-12-31 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi there,

I've now built a new set of debs over the last two days that should work. I 
also updated the branch to the most recent version and fixed stuff in CVS 
with the packages directly while doing so. Also I built a set of additional 
packages that are up also. Currently I'm uploading and I hope that the 
Telekom doesn't disconnect my machine while uploading because I'm already on 
my way to a new year's party :-)

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./

should be your friend. Included are:

dependencies (backports from unstable)
- ---
imlib2
directfb
xine-lib
xine-ui
qt3

additionally:
xmmsarts (backport from unstable to work with arts in KDE-3.1)
s3switch
cdrdao
gtkmm (needed for cdrdao)


KDE-3.1 (branch) (2002-12-31)
- 
arts
kdelibs
kdebase
kdenetwork
kdemultimedia
kdepim
kdeutils
kdegraphics
kdeadmin
kdeaddons
kdesdk
kdeartwork
kdegames
kdetoys
kdeedu

KOffice 1.2.1 compiled for KDE-3.1

KDevelop 2.1.4-0woody2
gideon 2.999 from CVS
ks3switch-0.1
kopete from CVS
digikam 0.5.1
gwenview  from CVS
kcd-0.1.3
kdbg-1.2.6
kickpim-0.4.3
kile-1.31
kprof-1.4.1  


Happy new year I hope that you'll be able to download the stuff before 
tomorrow or I'll have to restart the upload when I'll be back home tomorrow 
night.

Ralf


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Re: Liquid debs

2002-12-31 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 15:25, Sergio Rodriguez de Guzman Martinez 
wrote:
> I made a deb of liquid for 3.0.8 but it also works for 3.1. You can
> download it from here:
>
> http://coyote.asoc.euitt.upm.es/mud/debian/mosfet_liquid0.9.6pre1-1_i386.de
>b
>
I would like to include that in my 3.1 build for woody. could you provide 
sources and a deb line ? :-) I'll take care of pixieplus and liquid when I'm 
back home tomorrow night.

Ralf
>
> It is the last mosfet version.
>
> Sergio.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-12-29 at 2050.54 -0500):
> > Has anyone made any debs of the KDE 3.1 version of Liquid?
> >
> >
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Re: Liquid debs

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 19:35, Sergio Rodriguez de Guzman Martinez 
wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-12-31 at 1608.06 +0100):
> > I would like to include that in my 3.1 build for woody. could you provide
> > sources and a deb line ? :-) I'll take care of pixieplus and liquid when
> > I'm back home tomorrow night.
>
> Of course:
>
> # Mosfet liquid for KDE 3.0.8 and KDE 3.1
> deb http://coyote.asoc.euitt.upm.es/mud/debian ./
> deb-src http://coyote.asoc.euitt.upm.es/mud/debian ./

Thanks, I'll add that tonight.

Ralf
>
>
> Sergio.

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Re: New debs for woody

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 21:25, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 16:04 schrieb Ralf Nolden:
> > I've now built a new set of debs over the last two days that should work.
> > I also updated the branch to the most recent version and fixed stuff in
> > CVS with the packages directly while doing so. Also I built a set of
> > additional packages that are up also. Currently I'm uploading and I hope
> > that the Telekom doesn't disconnect my machine while uploading because
> > I'm already on my way to a new year's party :-)
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./
>
> You're great!
>
> The old problem is mainly solved, just kdevelop seems *now* to be linked
> against libpng2 and libpng3 ;)
I'll have a look at that. It can also be that you didn't upgrade it properly 
with regard to the version number. Please try downloading the debs manually 
and reinstall them. The same applies to kdesdk, because those had a 4: in 
front which is used with other kde modules, too. Now, I learned that that is 
only to be used when you need to increas the version number someway. kdesdk 
hasn't ever had that so that wasn't needed (and the sid version won't have 
the 4: either), so I left that out this time. Result is that you have to 
remove the kdesdk apps first completely, then apt-get them again.

>
> But a serious new show stopper has creeped in the kicker deb, which misses
> the libtaskbar.so in /usr/lib (the .la is there). Don't know if this is a
> bug in the cvs source or a dpkg-buildpackage problem.
Dirk Müller has changed the whole so.* version numbering over the weekend so 
this may still be a bug there. I've commited all my patches regarding the 
*.install files to CVS so I'll just check that.
>
> Concerning gideon (thanks for building this package especially), I think
> the dependencies should be 'automake1.5 | automake1.6 | automake1.7'
> currently it's "automaken" which looks very much like a typo ;-)
> I'd suggest the options for 1.6 and 1.7 for future compatibility with
> testing or unstable packages. I guess that won't be a problem because Woody
> only offers 1.5.
I'll offer 1.6 and 1.7 together with autoconf 2.57 and autotools rebuild for 
woody in addition
> When installing gideon anyway dpkg complains about
> "/usr/lib/libkdevelopqextmdi.la" which is included in kdevelop, too.
ok. I just built the package from CVS as the current configuration that is 
there, I didn't fix anything there yet. My time was too limited for doing 
extensive checks so it's to be considered experimental.

Ralf
>
>
> Happy new year, now :-)
>
>
> Dirk

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KDE debs and bug repoting

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi all,

1. happy new year 
2. thanks for appreciations
3. if you encounter bugs, feel free to report. Please make sure you deleted 
all debs and upgraded to the exact debs on ktown.kde.org. Unfortunately 
especially kdesdk had a bug in version numbering.
4. bug reporting can either go to me if you encounter things missing or going 
wrong and/or to the list to make sure things will work out better with a 
rebuilt of the affected packages
5. application bugs/crashes should please be reported on bugs.kde.org. Please 
use the "Help" -> "Report Bug" functionality in KDE applications. If you use 
a third-party program that has a bug you want to report, there should be an 
interface that will send a mail to the author of the program directly.
6. whishlist for programs: I'd like to offer as many 3rd party KDE apps as 
possible. Please send me URLs for deb-src'es of programs that you know that 
aren't in my collection so I can rebuild them (basically mirror them). The 
intention is to upload those third party apps into sid as soon as KDE 3.1 is 
a part of it :-) and most often the debian dir and packaging still needs to 
be done.

7. why I am doing this: It's not to "steal" other people's "job" but because I 
use woody myself since September (last year). I've been a SuSE user for years 
and have started to work for credativ (www.credativ.de) since September last 
year which is focused on Debian (though we also do things with SuSE, RH and 
MDK, you name it), and now I wanted to give Debian a serious try. The result 
was that I wanted current debs and that we got a contract that required us to 
have debs for woody, so those woody debs are basically also a by-product that 
we're giving away (which, as most of my co-workers are debian people also, is 
the focus, to give back as much as possible).  As we're using the debs 
ourselves now combined with the fact that I don't like messing with my system 
with a plain configure, make make install any more like I used to do with a 
SuSE system, the third party apps plus continuous work on the kde debs is the 
hobby part of it :-)

Thanks for listening.

Ralf:wq
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Re: show stopper in libkabc?

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 14:02, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> Good morning everybody, a happy & peaceful year 2003 ;-)
>
> I've just noticed, that kaddressbook crashes with "*** libkabc got signal
> 11 (Crashing)", when trying to edit a contact's address.
> This crash is absolutely reproducable even when adding a contact to an
> empty addressbook.
> This didn't happen with Ralf's old debs from dec 27th's cvs.
>
> Can you confirm this behavior?
will check. Can be due to library renaming that happened in between the build 
dates.
>
> I really hope there is no (unknown) problem with kdelibs that would cause a
> further delay.
>
> BTW: When writing this mail, I also noticed, that kmail didn't care about
> the mailing list's address associated with it's imap directory, but left
> the "to:" lineedit empty. Is this a bug or a new feature? ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or bugs.kde.org is your friend
>
> Dirk

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Re: New debs for woody

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 16:20, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 14:36 schrieb Ralf Nolden:
> > On Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2002 21:25, Dirk Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > The old problem is mainly solved, just kdevelop seems *now* to be
> > > linked against libpng2 and libpng3 ;)
> >
> > I'll have a look at that. It can also be that you didn't upgrade it
> > properly with regard to the version number. Please try downloading the
> > debs manually and reinstall them.
>
> Sorry Ralf, there is absolutely no doubt.
> http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/kdevelop/kdevelop_2.1.4-0w
>oody2_i386.deb is linked against both libraries.
I'll check and rebuild. Maybe I've just moved around the wrong files.

Ralf
>
> > The same applies to kdesdk, because those had a 4: in front which is used
> > with other kde modules, too. Now, I learned that that is only to be used
> > when you need to increas the version number someway. kdesdk hasn't ever
> > had that so that wasn't needed (and the sid version won't have the 4:
> > either), so I left that out this time. Result is that you have to remove
> > the kdesdk apps first completely, then apt-get them again.
>
> I noticed that ;-)
>
>
>
> Dirk

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Re: Bugs

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 18:36, Felix Homann wrote:
> 1. Happy new year
1. thanks.
> 2. Thank you Ralf for these debs.
2. you're welcome
> 3. I encountered bugs:
> 3a. libtaskbar.so(.1(.0.0)) is missing in the latest build. Hence the
> taskbar won't work. (see other message in the list)
3a. that's surely due to Dirk's changing of the libs. The version numbers have 
been removed and I followed building the debs probably a bit too quickly 
after he checked his changes into the CVS, I pulled, fixed the install files, 
comitted and built the packages. :-)
> 3b. There's also a version numbering bug in kdeedu. apt-get wants to
> "upgrade" the package by downgrading.
3b. kdeedu is the same case as with kdesdk. You have to remove it completely. 
I made this big mistake and used this 4: epoch instead of leaving it out 
because kdeedu never needed it so needs to be numbered normally. Please 
remove all kdeedu packages by hand, I'm sorry for this mistake (that I 
learned about tuesday night unfortunately)
4. Thanks for being my test-bunny :-)

Ralf
>
> Regards,
> Felix

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Re: deb line for French users in sources.list

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 22:55, Philippe MERLIN wrote:
> I would like dowload KDE3.05a but the line
> deb http ://download.fr.kde.org/..
> answer unknown site 
> What is correct line for french user?
Please use one of the http mirrors mentioned on www.kde.org/ftpmirrors.html

Ralf
> Thanks.
> And HAPPY NEW YEAR
> _
> Gagne une PS2 ! Envoie un SMS avec le code PS au 61166
> (0,35€ Hors coût du SMS)

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Re: Debian powerpc packages from KDE CVS

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 02:53, Rick Cook wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am in the process of building Debian powerpc packages from
> yesterday/today KDE cvs.
Cool. If you want I can add them to my account on ktown.kde.org. How do we 
treat uploading or can I pull them from somewhere with scp and directly 
upload them ?

Ralf
> I am more than willing to make them available (as I did while Ivan Moore
> was doing the packaging), however, I do not have a "bandwidth compatible"
> place to put them. Can these be added to one of the other repositories?
>
> Notes about preparation:
>
>
> Steps I followed to build debian powerpc packages from kde cvs
>
> - created chroot/debootstrap sid
> - added packages as required by process and various build-depnds
>
> - # g++ -dumpversion
> - 3.2.2
>
> - cvs checkout of all kde packages as of 2002/12/31 1700-1930 CST
> (plus updates 2003/01/01 afternoon CST).
>
>
>
> I currently have the following packages built (dpkg-buildpackage -b -us
> -us):
>
>   qt-copy
>   arts
>   kdelibs
>   kdebase
>   kdenetwork
>   kdeadmin
>   quanta
>
> The others will become available as they finish building (G4 Dual 1 Ghz).
>
>
> Rick Cook

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Re: Debian powerpc packages from KDE CVS

2003-01-01 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 02:58, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 07:53:29PM -0600, Rick Cook scrawled:
> > I am in the process of building Debian powerpc packages from
> > yesterday/today KDE cvs.
> >
> > I am more than willing to make them available (as I did while Ivan Moore
> > was doing the packaging), however, I do not have a "bandwidth compatible"
> > place to put them. Can these be added to one of the other repositories?
>
> Hmm, your best bet is to ask Chris to put it on
> people.debian.org/~ccheney.
that's of course possible, too :-)

Ralf
>
> > Notes about preparation:
> >
> >
> > Steps I followed to build debian powerpc packages from kde cvs
> >
> > - created chroot/debootstrap sid
> > - added packages as required by process and various build-depnds
> >
> > - # g++ -dumpversion
> > - 3.2.2
> >
> > - cvs checkout of all kde packages as of 2002/12/31 1700-1930 CST
> >   (plus updates 2003/01/01 afternoon CST).
>
> You champ! :)
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> > The others will become available as they finish building (G4 Dual 1 Ghz).
>
> Mmm, yummy; the exact same machine I'm sitting at right now. 1.5gig RAM,
> Superdrive ... very nice. Need to finish setting Debian up tho.

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Re: Debian powerpc packages from KDE CVS

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 03:29, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:01:54AM +0100, Ralf Nolden scrawled:
> > On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 02:53, Rick Cook wrote:
> > > I am in the process of building Debian powerpc packages from
> > > yesterday/today KDE cvs.
> >
> > Cool. If you want I can add them to my account on ktown.kde.org. How do
> > we treat uploading or can I pull them from somewhere with scp and
> > directly upload them ?
>
> Um, where on ktown would you put them?
To my home dir. I've spoken with dirk about it to put it in the unstable tree. 
We could do that if the intervals are not too short. And putting monthly cvs 
snapshots on the ftp servers isn't very reasonable, because if they don't 
work then that's it. 

Ralf

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Re: kdelibs_3.0.5a.orig.tar.gz MD5Sum mismatch

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 16:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From time to time I build my own KDE de files for alpha-linux, now I wanted
> to switch from 3.0.5 to 3.0.5a but "apt-get source kdelibs" says:
>
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Need to get 9459kB of source archives.
> Get:1 http://download.at.kde.org ./ kdelibs 4:3.0.5a-0woody2 (dsc) [906B]
> Get:2 http://download.at.kde.org ./ kdelibs 4:3.0.5a-0woody2 (tar) [9458kB]
> Get:3 http://download.at.kde.org ./ kdelibs 4:3.0.5a-0woody2 (diff) [723B]
> Fetched 1629B in 2m40s (10B/s)
> Failed to fetch
> http://download.at.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/source/kdelib
>s/kdelibs_3.0.5a.orig.tar.gz MD5Sum mismatch
> E: Failed to fetch some archives.

I fixed that yesterday night. Please try again, maybe the mirror hasn't 
catched up yet or you were too early. I regenerated the Sources.gz file on 
ktown itself becuase I just updated the kdelibs sourcepackage from 0woody1 to 
0woody2 to include the ktip patch, so this is nothing serious, just the 
Sources.gz file needs updating. It could also be that you just need to 
apt-get update again to fix this problem.

Ralf
>
> I tried also download.us.kde.org : same error, also repeatedly after
> removing the tar file (which is extractable).
>
> Is this a serious error or should I just ignore it?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Albrecht

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Re: Bugs

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 19:23, Paul Scott wrote:
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> >On Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 18:36, Felix Homann wrote:
> >>3. I encountered bugs:
> >>3a. libtaskbar.so(.1(.0.0)) is missing in the latest build. Hence the
> >>taskbar won't work. (see other message in the list)
> >
> >3a. that's surely due to Dirk's changing of the libs. The version numbers
> > have been removed and I followed building the debs probably a bit too
> > quickly after he checked his changes into the CVS, I pulled, fixed the
> > install files, comitted and built the packages. :-)
>
> Thanks for all of your work on this, Ralf.
>
> Am I correct that this is not fixed yet?
Not unless I'm done here and uploaded, but I think that's just a matter of 
hours :-)

Ralf
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Scott

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Re: Sound problem

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 2. Januar 2003 20:10, David Bishop wrote:
> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3 /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.0
>
> This is the second time this has come up, I don't know why :-(

my woody chroot has the following vorbis files:

 ls /usr/lib/libvorbis
libvorbis.a libvorbis.so.0  libvorbisenc.la 
libvorbisenc.so.0.1.0   libvorbisfile.so
libvorbis.lalibvorbis.so.0.1.0  libvorbisenc.so 
libvorbisfile.a libvorbisfile.so.0
libvorbis.solibvorbisenc.a  libvorbisenc.so.0   
libvorbisfile.lalibvorbisfile.so.0.2.0

ii  libvorbis-dev  1.0rc3-1   Vorbis Library Development
ii  libvorbis0 1.0rc3-1   The Vorbis General Audio Compression Codec
ii  libogg-dev 1.0rc3-1   Ogg Bitstream Library Development
ii  libogg01.0rc3-1   Ogg Bitstream Library

which are the exact ones from woody. I guess you have those from 
testing/unstable ?
>
> --
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Re: KDE3 debs on alpha-linux

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -70,7 +71,7 @@
> ../configure $(configkde) --with-shadow
> --with-kcp-pam=kcheckpass --with-kdm-pam=kdm
> --with-kss-pam=kscreensaver
> -   --with-cdparanoia --with-vorbis $(XINERAMA)
> +   --with-cdparanoia --with-vorbis $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> --- kdegraphics-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdegraphics-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -67,7 +68,7 @@
>
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) &&
> -   ../configure $(configkde) $(XINERAMA)
> +   ../configure $(configkde) $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> --- kdemultimedia-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdemultimedia-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -67,7 +68,7 @@
>
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) &&
> -   ../configure $(configkde) --with-arts-alsa $(XINERAMA)
> +   ../configure $(configkde) --with-arts-alsa $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> --- kdenetwork-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdenetwork-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -67,7 +68,7 @@
>
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) &&
> -   ../configure $(configkde) --with-arts-alsa $(XINERAMA)
> +   ../configure $(configkde) --with-arts-alsa $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> --- kdepim-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdepim-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -68,7 +69,7 @@
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) &&
> ../configure $(configkde)
> --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/libpisock -   $(XINERAMA)
> +   $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> --- kdesdk-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdesdk-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
>  ARCH = $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_ARCH)
>  ifeq ($(ARCH),alpha)
>COMPILER_FLAGS=CFLAGS="-O0 -mieee" CXXFLAGS="-O0 -mieee"
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  else
>COMPILER_FLAGS=CXX=g++ CC=gcc
>  endif
> @@ -39,7 +40,7 @@
> if test ! -f configure; then
>   $(MAKE) -f admin/Makefile.common ;
> fi
> -   $(COMPILER_FLAGS) ./configure $(configkde)
> +   $(COMPILER_FLAGS) ./configure $(configkde) $(NOFINAL)
> $(MAKE)
> $(MAKE) check
> touch build-stamp
> --- kdetoys-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdetoys-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
>  ARCH = $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_ARCH)
>  ifeq ($(ARCH),alpha)
>COMPILER_FLAGS=CFLAGS="-O0 -mieee" CXXFLAGS="-O0 -mieee"
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  else
>COMPILER_FLAGS=CXX=g++ CC=gcc
>  endif
> @@ -31,7 +32,7 @@
> if test ! -f configure; then
>   $(MAKE) -f admin/Makefile.common ;
> fi
> -   $(COMPILER_FLAGS) ./configure $(configkde)
> +   $(COMPILER_FLAGS) ./configure $(configkde) $(NOFINAL)
> $(MAKE)
> touch build-stamp
>
> --- kdeutils-3.0.5.orig/debian/rules
> +++ kdeutils-3.0.5/debian/rules
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),alpha-linux)
>export CFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
>export CXXFLAGS +=-O0 -mieee
> +  NOFINAL=--disable-final
>  endif
>
>  ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE),i386-linux)
> @@ -67,7 +68,7 @@
>
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) &&
> -   ../configure $(configkde) $(XINERAMA)
> +   ../configure $(configkde) $(XINERAMA) $(NOFINAL)
>
> touch configure-stamp
>
> -- arts-1

new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

just finished uploading a set of new debs. These should fix some issues that 
were remaining, plus I added some more apps.

1. fixed issues

a) kdelibs4-doc is a package that contains the KDE API documentation which can 
be found in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs. This package wasn't 
made correctly from CVS, so I fixed this first for the Branch. For libkonq 
and other libs in kdebase there's still things to do to get HTML docu for the 
API, especially adding a package to kdebase. 

b) kdebase taskbar problem fixed

c) dh-make template in kdelibs4-dev fixed (hopefully). You should be able to 
build debs with 

dh_make -t /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make

d) kdevelop rebuild due to the libpng problem

e) other issues that I don't remember. Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] on lists.kde.org 
:-)

2. added applications

quanta 3.1, ktagebuch, calcchecksum, ksambaplugin and I think one other, don't 
remember. Look for yourself :-)

3. updated kopete to today's CVS. Mind that this version is not numbered 
0.6+cvs but 0.5.8+cvs like the about box says. Sorry, but the package that is 
around on IRC is irritating first :-)

4. Packages file is regenerated, should work. Use:

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./

Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here.


Ralf
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Re: new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-02 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 04:27, Terry Gray wrote:
> Can we just do an 'apt-get upgrade' from KDE 3.05a, with your new debs?
Nope. You need to purge kdelibs* and arts* first because the arts debs have 
been completely changed again :-(  Sorry.

 http://davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html

should give you the necessary information for an upgrade from 3.0.5 to 3.1 
though it refers to kde-2.2 to kde-3.0.x. Works the same way.

Ralf

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ralf Nolden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:59 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: new debs 2003-01-02
>
>
> Hi,
>
> just finished uploading a set of new debs. These should fix some issues
> that were remaining, plus I added some more apps.
>
> 1. fixed issues
>
> a) kdelibs4-doc is a package that contains the KDE API documentation which
> can
> be found in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs. This package wasn't
> made correctly from CVS, so I fixed this first for the Branch. For libkonq
> and other libs in kdebase there's still things to do to get HTML docu for
> the
> API, especially adding a package to kdebase.
>
> b) kdebase taskbar problem fixed
>
> c) dh-make template in kdelibs4-dev fixed (hopefully). You should be able
> to build debs with
>
> dh_make -t /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make
>
> d) kdevelop rebuild due to the libpng problem
>
> e) other issues that I don't remember. Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
> lists.kde.org
>
> :-)
>
> 2. added applications
>
> quanta 3.1, ktagebuch, calcchecksum, ksambaplugin and I think one other,
> don't
> remember. Look for yourself :-)
>
> 3. updated kopete to today's CVS. Mind that this version is not numbered
> 0.6+cvs but 0.5.8+cvs like the about box says. Sorry, but the package that
> is
> around on IRC is irritating first :-)
>
> 4. Packages file is regenerated, should work. Use:
>
> deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./
>
> Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here.
>
>
> Ralf
> --
> We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs.
> 
> Ralf Nolden
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>
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Re: new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 10:05, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 9:58 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here.
>
> Running debian unstable - kuickshow now crashes - although a the version
> you made on the 27/28 Dec was stable.
Hm yes, but those were build against imlib1, not imlib2. And I had to rebuild 
imlib2 on woody. So...as you're using sid, I really can't figure that out. 
But maybe it's also a bug in kuickshow. Could you send a backtrace to Carsten 
?

Ralf
>
> I displays images OK, but it crashes (reproducibly) when deleting an image
> or when attempting to display the last image in the set it has.
>
>
> --
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Re: new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 11:14, Graeme Merrall wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 10:11:03AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > Running debian unstable - kuickshow now crashes - although a the
> > > version you made on the 27/28 Dec was stable.
> >
> > Hm yes, but those were build against imlib1, not imlib2. And I had to
> > rebuild imlib2 on woody. So...as you're using sid, I really can't figure
> > that out. But maybe it's also a bug in kuickshow. Could you send a
> > backtrace to Carsten ?
>
> I may have missed this Ralf but what was your timeline on getting sid
> packages up?
I've set up a sid chroot last night after backporting debootstrap from 
unstable :-) so I can start the build over the weekend. I've been up now for 
27 hours and I think it's time for a break :-))

Ah, I've put up a new set of packages for apps like kgamma, k3b, kcdlabel, 
komba2, qtella and some others. Have a look for yourself. The 
arts/kdelibs/kdebase packages should be updated, too. I cleaned up the *.la 
file mess in the packages last night so those are now in a 
not-easy-to-get-in-a-better-state mode now.

Ralf
>
> Cheers,
>  Graeme

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Re: Missing taskbar with Ralf's debs - me too

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 13:26, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:
> Could that friendly soul from Chicago or anybody else please mail me
> libtaskbar.so* ?

You just need to do an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. Then you'll get the 
new debs which work again.

Ralf
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas
>
> --
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> Vienna/Austria
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Re: new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 10:05, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 9:58 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here.
>
> Running debian unstable - kuickshow now crashes - although a the version
> you made on the 27/28 Dec was stable.
>
> I displays images OK, but it crashes (reproducibly) when deleting an image
> or when attempting to display the last image in the set it has.

I updated kdegraphics after carsten's fix. Can you apt-get update; apt-get 
upgrade to the newest version and test if that fixes your problems ? 
Otherwise we have to bug carsten again :-)

Ralf
>
> --
> Alan Chandler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: new debs 2003-01-02

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 13:50, Felix Homann wrote:
> Yes, looks got. On my box the crash has dissappeared.
Ok, good.
>
> Thanks Ralf!
> BTW, did you get some sleep?
No. I just had a shower that I badly needed. I'll stay up or I'll wake up in 
the middle of the night when I don't get any Gyros, Tzaziki and fries anymore 
:-)
>
> --Felix
>
> On Friday 03 January 2003 13:35, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > I updated kdegraphics after carsten's fix. Can you apt-get update;
> > apt-get upgrade to the newest version and test if that fixes your
> > problems ? Otherwise we have to bug carsten again :-)
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > > --
> > > Alan Chandler
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > 
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> >
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2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 14:42, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Friday 03 Jan 2003 12:35 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 10:05, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > > On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 9:58 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or here.
> > >
> > > Running debian unstable - kuickshow now crashes - although a the
> > > version you made on the 27/28 Dec was stable.
> > >
> > > I displays images OK, but it crashes (reproducibly) when deleting an
> > > image or when attempting to display the last image in the set it has.
> >
> > I updated kdegraphics after carsten's fix. Can you apt-get update;
> > apt-get upgrade to the newest version and test if that fixes your
> > problems ? Otherwise we have to bug carsten again :-)
>
> Yes - it works now
>
> Thanks
>
> One other slight issue (I know its a woody/sid thing - and I am not using
> this package - so it doesn't matter to me) but kamera requires libexif5 and
> sid only has libexif7 so the dependencies are not met.  This is turn
> effects kdegraphics.
Yes. But we can't do much about that. libexif5 is sufficient for woody systems 
and it ships with it. To keep the number of backported stuff low I won't use 
that. Instead I'll build a sid version completely from scratch that can 
handle all the fontconfig problems that woody users don't have :-))

BTW I just added a backport from geramik-0.17 from unstable for gtk1.x. Damn, 
finally this looks like something useful :-)

Ralf

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Re: How to build a deb package with KDE3.1 and woody?

2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 15:27, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
> Hello,

Ola Pablo,

> I would like to build kde-i18n-es as a deb package.
Good luck :-)

> Now I am using KDE 3.1 (packages provided by Ralf Nolden in Dec 31st not
> the very latest ones) and an almost pure woody system. I only have the CVS
> "kde-i18n" root directory and "kde-i18n/es", "kde-i18n/admin" and
> "kde-i18n/debian" subdirectories.
>

Just do the following, if it is only for a test anyway:

cvs co -l kde-i18n
cvs co kde-i18n/es
cvs co kde-i18n/admin

then change into kde-i18n. With the installed packages you need to install 
dh-make and use it with the template in /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make. 
Fill out the version information and that's it. then enter dpkg-buildpackage. 
The problem is as you mention that you need automake1.6. I've a set of debs 
here that I use for builiding which I backported from sid to woody. I've 
uploaded them so you can use them.

http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/devel-packages

You could also use the debian dir in kde-i18n but then you need to modify the 
control and the rules file (besides the changelog for the version number, use 
3.0.99+cvs20030103-0woody1)

Ralf, going to bed now. finally :-)
> First I try to compile the "es" directory to check if all is OK. So
> I command:
>
> echo "es" > inst-apps
>
> and
>
> make -f Makefile.cvs
> and
> ./configure
> and
> make
>
> - First problem I have is that KDE 3.1 apparently needs autoconf 1.6 which
> is in sid. I overcome this problem by using the "admin" directory from KDE
> 3.0.x series.
>
>  With this workaround I can compile the whole es subdirectory.
>
> Then I clean the whole kde-i18n and begin again with a clean CVS one.
>
> If I try to generate a deb package by issuing
>
> dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us
>
> the process removes
> F inst-apps
> F temp.xml
> F update_xml.log
> D admin
> F debian/debiandirs
> D es/docs/quanta
> and the process breaks.
>
> Can somebody tell me a recipe to create kde-i18n-es.deb from the CVS for
> woody, only having the root kde-i18n directory and directories
> kde-i18n/admin, kde-i18n/es and kde-i18n/debian?.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pablo de Vicente
> KDE spanish translation team.

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2003-01-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 3. Januar 2003 22:36, Sebastian Gutweiler wrote:
> * Dirk Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030103 21:30]:
>
> Hi,
>
> > > I've a problem installing Gideon:
> > > [...]
> > > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> > > gideon: Depends: automaken but it is not installable
> > > E: Sorry, broken packages
> >
> > Download the files manually and install them with 'dpkg
> > - --ignore-depends=automaken -i gideon*.deb'.
>
> After this I have another problem :-( :
>
> Defiant:~# apt-get install xosview
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> gideon: Depends: automaken but it is not installable
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
> specify a solution).
>
> apt-get -f install removes gideon.
Think of gideon as a direct CVS snapshot. I didn't test it, so that's why. 
I'll have a look into it tomorrow. Just got up and I feel terrible :-) which 
means I'll go to bed again.
 
Ralf
>
> I couldn't find a switch to say apt-get to ignore this. Is there one or
> what can I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian

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