Re: konqueor 3.0.3: not correctly handle charset=gb2312
Yang Shouxun wrote: > Konqueror in KDE 3.0.3 does not always display Chinese pages correctly. > After some efforts, I narrow it down to this. > > If the webpage contains a line such as > --->8--- > > --->8--- > to specify the charset to be used, konqueror 3.0.3 will not correctly > display the page. Some Chinese characters are missing, showing just a > blank space instead. > > For an instance, http://www.lingchina.org > > When I save the page to hard disk, remove "; charset=gb2312", and reload > the file in Konqueror, all works file. Further exploration reveals that is not the whole story. I found that the debian Chinese Faq (debian-zh-faq-s package) has webpages with --->8--- --->8--- but Konqueror 3.0.3 has no problem.
Re: kde 3.0.3: problem with Chinese characters
Yang Shouxun wrote: Besides the problem reported about konqueor web browser, I come across other problems as well. KDE 2.2.x do not have any of these problems. I'm using KDE 3.0.3 with kde-i18n-zhcn i18n package and set the language encoding to gb2312. All KDE apps correctly show the Chinese strings that come with the software via the i18n functions, but Chinese texts in other places, that is, data that the apps process, cannot be correctly displayed, including copy and paste from non-kde apps (copy correctly displayed Chinese webpage in Konqueror works) and file browsing in konqueror (Chinese file names displayed incorrectly in Konqueror, though the Chinese strings for file type are correct, since they are i18n strings). The KDE apps do not know what fonts to display the texts with. This seems to be a configuration problem, but I don't think I did anything wrong. I read the debian-faq-zh-s and tried its solution: add a ~/.xsession with the following as its content and solved the problem at last. ---8<--- export LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 export LC_ALL=zh_CN.GB2312 export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.GB2312 export KDE_LANG=zh_CN.GB2312 export [EMAIL PROTECTED] chinput exec kde3 ---8<--- Note that the problem with Konqueor web browser remains unsolved. These variables are set and exported in ~/.bashrc, which is sourced in ~/.bash_profile, but KDE 3.0.3 started from KDM seems not using them.
Re: html documentation for kde
lördagen den 28 september 2002 05.32 skrev Tim Wheeler: > in my scenario, neither 1 nor 4 would be ideal. i don't necessarily want > the extra docs on my work machine or the actual programs on the server. i > like 3 best. then both the program and the docs could just link to the > images. If the images would be separated, it would require either a package for each single application, or that always get the images for all packages in a kde module even if you only install one. Both a bad idea. So how about another solution A+B A) A special "html documentation package", containing the html documentation + the images, but that can't be installed together with the program. B) Docbook documentation + images are together with the program always. If someone who installs the program want the html documentation, they are generated from the docbook at installation time (or later if so desired). So in this scenario the html documentation package is only meant for installation on servers. After all, the html doc package is a bad idea if someone only want a single program, since you get documentation for all packages in a kde module. And then you would really want to have the documentation in your own language. Not everyone speaks english. -- Karolina
Re: html documentation for kde
> If the images would be separated, it would require either a package for > each single application, or that always get the images for all packages in > a kde module even if you only install one. Both a bad idea. I agree with this. > So how about another solution A+B > A) A special "html documentation package", containing the html > documentation + the images, but that can't be installed together with the > program. I'm unhappy with this because this does not serve the original reason for packaging kdefoo-doc-html, i.e., if I'm a GNOME user (without khelpcenter) and I install kword, then I can't read the docbook docs and I can't even install the HTML docs. But I realise this was meant in conjuction with (B), so reading on... > B) Docbook documentation + images are together with the program > always. If someone who installs the program want the html documentation, > they are generated from the docbook at installation time (or later if so > desired). I'm a little uncomfortable with generating HTML docs at install time, since (1) it will require meinproc which is in kdelibs4-dev and would thus require a dependency on kdelibs4-dev and all the stuff it drags in, and (2) once you've installed kword and forgotten all about the installation questions (would you like HTML docs?), and in four months' time you decide you want to read the manual, it's not at all clear how to do this (i.e., that you have to dpkg-reconfigure kword). > So in this scenario the html documentation package is only meant for > installation on servers. I'd be tempted to think that it's more common for a non-KDE user to install kword and want to read the docs than it would be for someone to have none of KDE on their system and want to read the docs; for most apps it's customary to read the docs on the machine that you're running the app on. i.e., none of these solutions are particuarly good, but I believe the current situation (HTML docs installable with the app but missing images when the app is not present) is the least upsetting (apologies to Tim). > After all, the html doc package is a bad idea if > someone only want a single program, since you get documentation for all > packages in a kde module. Sure, I agree. It was a choice between (1) koffice-doc-html as we have now, (2) bundle HTML docs with the original apps (which makes ordinary KDE users unhappy about wasted disk space), or (3) have lots of little kword-doc-html, kspread-doc-html, etc. packages (which makes debian people in general unhappy because of package bloat). I chose (1) as what appeared to be the lesser of evils. > And then you would really want to have the > documentation in your own language. Not everyone speaks english. Again agreed. As (I think) I mentioned before, I'm not entirely sure what to do about this. Having koffice-doc-html-de, etc etc leads again to package bloat, and bundling all translations in koffice-doc-html leads to very large packages as well as the rather undesirable situation that koffice can no longer be built from the source tarball (since the translations are not in the main koffice tree). Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you have to know who you are, get to know the monster that lives in your soul, dive deep into your soul and explore it. I don't want to renounce my dark side. The truth has always held an enormous interest for me. Everything is therapeutic, no matter what you do. - Tori Amos, Connection Magazine, 6/98
KDE upgrade: Missing package lm-sensors-mod
I am running woody from a cd set. I attempted to upgrade to KDE 3.0.3. However I get the following dependency problem: Ksysguard recommends lm-sensors lm-sensors recommends lm-sensors-mod I see from the the Debian package list that lm-sensors-mod is not available. I have installed lm-sensors and i2c into my kernel and they work. I have tried to install the lm-sensors user land utilities ie sensords and sensors. They work too. However I still get the dependency issue with lm-sensors-mod. Can anyone tell me what it is or where to find it? Thanks Felix
Re: Run kde3 from kdm
I already have the symlinks as you said, with the same wrong behavior. Michael Hoodes escribió:: Jordi, Make sure you have a symlink in /usr/bin ln -s /etc/kde3/debian/startkde kde3 and then kde3 should work in kdm (3.0-3.03) the startkde in /usr/bin should also be symlinked to etc/kde3/debian/startkde. For KDE 3.1 (3.07), There is a subtle warning not to use kcontrol to modify kmrc, but that's where you can specify SessionTypes in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc For KDE 3.1 (3.07) I am using startkde (symlinked as above) as I didn't get kde3 to work initially. Michael -- Adéu. Jordi Catalán Morros
Re: KDE upgrade: Missing package lm-sensors-mod
Felix Oxley wrote: > I am running woody from a cd set. > I attempted to upgrade to KDE 3.0.3. > > However I get the following dependency problem: >Ksysguard recommends lm-sensors >lm-sensors recommends lm-sensors-mod > > I see from the the Debian package list that lm-sensors-mod is not > available. Normally you would install lm-sensors-source and use make-kpkg to build an lm-sensors-modules .deb. However if you have managed to get things going with whats available in the kernel and are getting sensible output from sensors you probably don't want to bother with this. The reason you are experiencing problems installing ksysguard is probably because you are using dselect. The version in woody insists on treating recommends as depends. This is a long standing bug that's listed in the manpage. Thankfully the version in sid no longer does this. In the meantime try : #apt-get install ksysguard See /usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/README.debian for more info. -- Simon Hepburn.
RE: 178 days and counting
mmm well...i shouldn't say this, but i'm going to say this...after an endless nightmare of trying to get woody stable to upgrade kde 2.2 to kde 3 I give up. I've never used kde before (being a gnome man up until now) - I wanted to try kde and give it a fair go, but sorry. After all the installation attempts and hassles, forget it. I don't want nothing to do with kde. As far as i'm concerned it's a pile of shit, a big pile of shit. I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks of kde, nor what others think of my opinion, it can be shoved in a nice brown orifice for all I care. As yes - i've tried very very very very hard to get this stupid piece of shit to run - i've spent 8 hours on this. I've update from stable to testing. Still no go. I don't care anymore. Question - I want to totally remove EVERY piece of kde 2.2 from my system. Totally. Short of a reinstall (and not choosing kde) how would I do this? I'll stick with gnome thanks (i'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this but I don't care one iota). Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Knigge; David Pastern Cc: David Pashley; debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 27/09/2002 3:36 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting Michael Knigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I've now reinstalled woody/stable and have only stable in > sources.list. I'd >> love to install kde3.x if someone can point me to a .deb that will > install it >> on standard woody/stable. Anyone? > > > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ > > apt-get update > apt-get install kdebase > apt-get install arts > apt-get install kdelibs > and kdenetwork / kdegraphics / kde-i18n etc . > > > Guess this is what you want ;-) It appears to be what I want. That looks like what I did, though, and there were still libraries that were required and only available from woody/unstable (libc3.x maybe? I don't remember.) that were dependencies. I'll try this again with only ~schoepf added to the source list and see what happens. Thanks! Derrell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 178 days and counting
further to my last email: for those that will bitch about it - this is how I setup my /etc/apt/sources.list config file: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-4 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-3 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-fsources.list: unmodified: line 1 Yes I know I have testing (and the email previously said it was stable - trust me I tried stable as well). This is the error message I get (the same for both stable and testing): Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/main/ binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/non-f ree/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/contr ib/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/cont rib/binary-i386/Packages 400 Bad Request Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/main Packa ges (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testing_ma in_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/non-free P ackages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testin g_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/contrib Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testing _contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/main Packa ges (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testing_ma in_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/non-free P ackages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testin g_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org testing/contrib Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eschoepf_kde3_woody_dists_testing _contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I have installed qt3 and the develop package as well. I've got the correct version of g++ installed etc. I've tried using dselect - no go. Still fails. In fact I downloaded (from a ftp site) the whole debs for kde 3.0.3 about 2 and a bit weeks ago and i've even tried to install from that (manually and also setting it up on sources.list). I've tried copying from cd to hdd and doing it that way...no go. I'm sorry to say it, but kde is wasting my time. Until they learn to make a ./configure file (say openoffice can do it, why can't kde?) I won't touch them. I will not be recommending kde at all. I don't have a problem with debian, it's fantastic. I'm also happy with dselect and apt. It's kde. Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Knigge; David Pastern Cc: David Pashley; debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 28/09/2002 22:24 Subject: RE: 178 days and counting mmm well...i shouldn't say this, but i'm going to say this...after an endless nightmare of trying to get woody stable to upgrade kde 2.2 to kde 3 I give up. I've never used kde before (being a gnome man up until now) - I wanted to try kde and give it a fair go, but sorry. After all the installation attempts and hassles, forget it. I don't want nothing to do with kd
Re: ugle background when starting kdm
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 22:04, Bastiaan Naber wrote: > > The reason it shows the dots for so long is b/c your computer is slow. The > > faster the computer, the less time to see ugliness. If you get a fast > > enough computer, you won't see it anymore. So spring the $300 for a new > > computer. Also, if you spend $200 more and get a smokin' graphics card, I > > can guarantee that this will go away. > > > > Finally linux is compeditive w/ windows. We can solve all yer problems if > > you spend enough money. :) > > > Sorry but I have a amd athlon XP 2000+ and a geforce graphics card and > still the dots appear long enough to make my head hurt. I don't think spending > more money will make the dotted background go away Go fetch a beer every time you start X. HTH & cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 178 days and counting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 September 2002 13:32, David Pastern wrote: > further to my last email: for those that will bitch about it - this is how > I setup my /etc/apt/sources.list config file: [snip] > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/ testing main non-free > contrib [snip] > Failed to fetch > http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/main/ > binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found > Failed to fetch > http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/non-f > ree/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found > Failed to fetch > http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/dists/testing/contr > ib/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found > Failed to fetch Whereas, on Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:28:27 -0400, Quenten Griffith said: > > I haven't tired it but there was some discussion on the list a few > > weeks ago and someone made kde3 for woody > > > > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ So, your apt source is incorrect. WRONG: deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/ testing main non-free contrib RIGHT: deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ This is why you got 404 errors when you tried to download the Packages files - they were not found becuase apt had been told to look in the wrong place. > I have installed qt3 and the develop package as well. I've got the correct > version of g++ installed etc. I've tried using dselect - no go. Still > fails. In fact I downloaded (from a ftp site) the whole debs for kde 3.0.3 > about 2 and a bit weeks ago and i've even tried to install from that > (manually and also setting it up on sources.list). I've tried copying from > cd to hdd and doing it that way...no go. I'm sorry to say it, but kde is > wasting my time. Until they learn to make a ./configure file (say > openoffice can do it, why can't kde?) I won't touch them. I will not be > recommending kde at all. I don't have a problem with debian, it's > fantastic. I'm also happy with dselect and apt. It's kde. It was not kde - you misconfigured apt. > mmm well...i shouldn't say this, but i'm going to say this...after an > endless nightmare of trying to get woody stable to upgrade kde 2.2 to > kde 3 I give up. I've never used kde before (being a gnome man up > until now) - I wanted to try kde and give it a fair go, but sorry. After > all the installation attempts and hassles, forget it. I don't want nothing > to do with kde. As far as i'm concerned it's a pile of shit, a big pile of > shit. I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks of kde, nor what > others think of my opinion, it can be shoved in a nice brown orifice for all > I care. As yes - i've tried very very very very hard to get this stupid > piece of shit to run - i've spent 8 hours on this. I've update from stable > to testing. Still no go. I don't care anymore. Question - I want to > totally remove EVERY piece of kde 2.2 from my system. Totally. Short of a > reinstall (and not choosing kde) how would I do this? I'll stick with > gnome thanks (i'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this but I don't care one > iota). Try something like: apt-get remove --purge kdelibs* kdebase* kde* This should remove most of kde from your system. Also, if you have kde2.2.2 from Debian installed, doing: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 2.2.2 should give you a list of packages which may include any other kde packages which remain. Have fun with GNOME. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9lakoIzuKV+SHX/kRAk4SAJ9LBiWksg6b9Rp4WJsxM9gl0QKl+QCdHA7m srmvoqI0fxW9fNonIoCcBmE= =9Txu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 178 days and counting
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 19:58, scooter wrote: > what happens on a Debian system when you compile from source? I have run in > succession 3.0 alpha, 3.0beta, 3.1 alpha and now 3.1beta (or for you purests > 3.0.7) All built from tarballs on the dread RH. I have never had the > slightest difficulty with KDE on RH unless it was something of my own doing > but for reasons I will not go into on this list, I am switching to Debian. > Since I am a gnome blows kinda guy and require, no insist that I have KDE and > in the 3.0 family running on debian woody. I have no experience with .deb or > any other debian tools. never liked RPMs for that matter and have always > built my packages from source. > What say you fellows? source? will there be issues? No more than on any other system, I guess. Just make sure you never have something installed *both* as a .deb package and as self compiled. (But that's the same as with rpm systems). Use apt-get to grab anything you don't want to compile, then go from there. One thing to pay attention: the default compiler on most Debian platforms is gcc-2.9x, so gcc-3.2 might not be installed (iirc kde did have some problems with earlier compilers). Not sure if the gcc from woody is recent enough to support the newest kde betas - you may want to have a mixed woody/sarge system (read 'man apt_preferences'). cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 178 days and counting
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 20:01, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > BTW: I don't understand why most unstable packages are not in unstable > anymore. KDE3.x ist left out because of gcc3.2, although it does not make > much sense: if it breaks on transistion to gcc3.2- well, it's unstable. Same > with XFree4.2. What's the difference to make the gcc change with or without > KDE3 in unstable? It compiles with gcc2.95 and troubles with gcc3.2 are > expected anyway. > Sorry, but it does not make much sense to me at all. This is no matter to me > though because I track testing and not unstable. But current behaviour makes > unstable rather pointless. The problem is that developers (I mean Debian Developers mostly) actually use unstable for their work. Having unstable packages to work with is ok for most packages, but when core things like XFree, gnome, kde ... are *really* unstable in unstable, people will get annoyed. Yes, unstable is unstable, and developers expect brokenness here and there. But it's a question of magnitude. And: a big update requires a transistion plan to avoid stupid mistakes - and working out a transition plan that works is not easy and takes time, too. cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 178 days and counting
Em Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:32:46 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: [ cut ] > debian, it's fantastic. I'm also happy with dselect and apt. It's kde. no , it's you. I have kde 3 runnig on my testing box and it works just fine. -- Home Page -> http://sites.uol.com.br/rafaelsch/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "E pluribus unum"
Re: 178 days and counting
On Sat 28 Sep 2002 13:24, David Pastern wrote: > thanks (i'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this but I don't care one > iota). I'm sorry your experience with KDE was not optimal, but blaming KDE alone is an incorrect assumption. The problems you've encountered are due to a large number of interacting factors between Debian, GCC and KDE. The problem is timing. Debian is currently upgrading it's version of GCC to 3.2. KDE3 has/had problems compiling on GCC3.2, other software packages also have problems with GCC3.2. The KDE maintainer has decided to only develop KDE3 with GCC3.2. Together this creates a large list of compatibility problems depending on which version of . For stability, KDE2.2 is available for Debian. This is stable and installable on any stable Debian with a simple apt-get install. The current versions of KDE3 are 'unstable' and the various versions are compiled against a variety of mixed stable/testing/unstable systems. hence the difficulty of getting the mix right. This is known. That is why it's called unstable. If you only want to try the KDE desktop, without trying to help fix problems, then stick with the stable version. It works! Unfortunately it's also old. This is one of the few faults with Debian. I use KDE because it is familiar. I've tried Gnome but can not get my head around it at all. Again, it's down to personal preference. I respect your preference for Gnome. It's what you know. But this is the strong point of Linux, choice! I choose KDE, you choose Gnome. We both choose Debian for it's superior packaging system. When I wanted to play with KDE3, I decided that rather than face the problems you are having, I've been bitten too many times when mixing stable with unstable, to try building a Linux From Scratch system on a spare box for playing with. The base system is an 85M download and a rather lengthy process of compiling and installing everything. I have the sources for XFree864.2.0 and the sources for KDE3.0Beta2. There was a lot of other things to install before I could finally compile and install KDE3. Now I've got a box with a fully custom compiled and installed Linux system including KDE3! As for my regular system, I'll just wait until the current problems are ironed out and I can install KDE3 from the official Debian site, thank you. Please do not allow this complex interaction of a number of problems shade your view of KDE. It is not KDE alone that caused your experiences. Cheers, John Gay
Re: Run kde3 from kdm
Jordi, What version of KDE (3.0, 3.01, 3.03) are you running? What version of Debian (potato, woody, sarge, sid) are you running and did you upgrade from potato to woody? You might try apt-get ---reinstall install kdm to see if that fixes it. (Or apt-get remove, apt-get install kdm) Michael On Saturday 28 September 2002 at 4:24 am, Jordi wrote: > I already have the symlinks as you said, with the same wrong > behavior. > > Michael Hoodes escribió:: > > Jordi, > > > > Make sure you have a symlink in /usr/bin > > ln -s /etc/kde3/debian/startkde kde3 > > and then kde3 should work in kdm (3.0-3.03) > > the startkde in /usr/bin should also be symlinked to > > etc/kde3/debian/startkde. > > > > For KDE 3.1 (3.07), There is a subtle warning not to > > use kcontrol to modify kmrc, but that's where you > > can specify SessionTypes in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > > > > For KDE 3.1 (3.07) I am using startkde (symlinked as > > above) as I didn't get kde3 to work initially.
Re: 178 days and counting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > [ On Saturday 28 September 2002 08:35 am, John Gay wrote: ] > [...] The current versions of KDE3 are 'unstable' and the > various versions are compiled against a variety of mixed > stable/testing/unstable systems. [...] shouldn't we call the current versions of KDE3 'experimental' or 'dangerously-delightful' since they are not yet in unstable? >grin< sincerely, tim - -- Tim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.greengibberish.com/ - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9lb68RNiK9b6/KqoRAtZ7AJwMF8NGEx5b8xvW4t+ZPQbAFU3ZyACeI4Vd re210b0kVtscmXOZliH4j1w= =J/OJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 178 days and counting
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:24:41 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want nothing to do > with kde. So it's the wrong list. Alain
KDE from CVS?
This may be a repeat question. Is there a source for deb's that are apt-gettable for the latest versions of KDE from CVS? It don't get more basic than that -- Comments and information are appreciated. Robert
RE: 178 days and counting
ahhh a smart ass eh? wtf is debian-kde@lists.debian.org then? Santa claus? I'm sure IQs are dropping... Dave *you betchya i'm totally *ucking pissed off* BTW I have totally removed KDE crap from my system. They can go shove it. -Original Message- From: Alain Tesio To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org; David Pastern Sent: 28/09/2002 3:50 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:24:41 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want nothing to do > with kde. So it's the wrong list. Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 178 days and counting
eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single touch of linux as he thinks it's a pile of shit and a fad - oh and he does have 20 years or so of experience in the IT industry). Therefore I do not have a pop3 or imap account to set up mutt, evolution etc. At the moment i'm using the ms exchange net feature (ie retrieval of email by logging on via http to my exchange account), which saves me having to reboot into ms windows to check my email. I do not intend to change the way my mail works, nor should I have to. I think i'll just keep my mouth shut from now on and read teh posts and that's it. I'm to the point where i'm seroiusly considering formatting it and just make it all ms windows again. Thanks kde - you've really turned me off. Oh and for those that bitch about me not having the "correct" line in my sources.list I actually did try that as well, with the same dependency fuckups. I'm beyond caring now. Dave -Original Message- From: Hendrik Sattler To: David Pastern Sent: 28/09/2002 0:26 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 28. September 2002 14:32 schrieb David Pastern: [...] I know this is not your fault but your current mailer (Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)) is pretty bad because it is missing headers that all common MUAs use to display threading. This is pretty annoying and hard to track the discussion this way. For personal mailing, no threading might be sufficient, on mailing lists it is somewhat essential. I have no idea what it is but please try to use a normal mail program. >From your previous posting, I assume you use gnome, so maybe balsa or even mutt or anything like this (even mozilla or old netscape 4.7x) are not out of reach to you. if you cannot get around this "Internet Mail Service", please write them a mail to implement the use of the "References:" and "In-Reply-To:" headers when replaying to mails. Thank you HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verf*gbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder *ber pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9lbwIzvr6q9zCwcERAtdHAJ0RhGQho9W31dRznviXvy0L4R1maQCfUwSs FXPD6sD5yYvJmHugYGSWKjY= =Q6vF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 178 days and counting
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 09:26:02AM +1000, David Pastern wrote: > ahhh a smart ass eh? wtf is debian-kde@lists.debian.org then? Santa claus? > I'm sure IQs are dropping... Let me summarize: 1. you put the wrong line into sources.list 2. 8 hours of trial & error but you couldn't figure that out 3. you blame it all on kde 4. although you said that you "want nothing to do with kde" you keep posting on debian-kde 5. you were pointed to the correct line for sources.list 6. seems you're still blaming kde for it. Sorry, I usually stay quiet but you really need a break to think about whose fault it was to use a wrong sources.list. Thomas --
RE: 178 days and counting
David Pastern said: > I'm beyond caring now. That's OK, so are we... --kurt
Re: 178 days and counting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 29 September 2002 00:26, David Pastern wrote: > ahhh a smart ass eh? wtf is debian-kde@lists.debian.org then? Santa > claus? I'm sure IQs are dropping... [snip] > *you betchya i'm totally *ucking pissed off* > > BTW I have totally removed KDE crap from my system. They can go shove it. On Sunday 29 September 2002 00:34, David Pastern wrote: [snip] > I think i'll just keep my mouth shut from now > on and read teh posts and that's it. I'm to the point where i'm seroiusly > considering formatting it and just make it all ms windows again. Thanks > kde - you've really turned me off. Oh and for those that bitch about me > not having the "correct" line in my sources.list I actually did try that as > well, with the same dependency fuckups. I'm beyond caring now. Thread terminated. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9lkkQIzuKV+SHX/kRAqhtAJ4n5tCknsETougJaZiS1Q3IDCmV4ACaA9/y O+N/sCgAGfTrO2Yzt2PF4Eg= =h5TC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 178 days and counting
> eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network > where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the > gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single > touch of linux as he thinks it's a pile of shit and a fad - oh and he does > have 20 years or so of experience in the IT industry). Therefore I do not > have a pop3 or imap account to set up mutt, evolution etc. At the moment > i'm using the ms exchange net feature (ie retrieval of email by logging on > via http to my exchange account), which saves me having to reboot into ms > windows to check my email. I do not intend to change the way my mail works, > nor should I have to. I think i'll just keep my mouth shut from now on and > read teh posts and that's it. I'm to the point where i'm seroiusly > considering formatting it and just make it all ms windows again. Thanks kde > - you've really turned me off. Oh and for those that bitch about me not > having the "correct" line in my sources.list I actually did try that as > well, with the same dependency fuckups. I'm beyond caring now. Summary: You don't like GNU/Linux, you don't like KDE and you want to stick with proprietary MS Crap that some other guy thinks is fine. Apart from that, you are bothered by the fact that people tell you that you might be at the wrong place on a list that is related to KDE and GNU/Linux and all in all wouldn't touch Microsoft Software unless violently forced to. An average peace of butter would be sensible enough to unsubscribe. regards, Volker -- The meek shall inherit the earth; the rest of us, the Universe.
Re: 178 days and counting
> An average peace of butter would be sensible enough to unsubscribe. Make that "piece". -- The days just prior to marriage are like a snappy introduction to a tedious book.
Re: 178 days and counting
Thomas Schoepf wrote: Let me summarize: 1. you put the wrong line into sources.list 2. 8 hours of trial & error but you couldn't figure that out 3. you blame it all on kde 4. although you said that you "want nothing to do with kde" you keep posting on debian-kde 5. you were pointed to the correct line for sources.list 6. seems you're still blaming kde for it. Sorry, I usually stay quiet but you really need a break to think about whose fault it was to use a wrong sources.list. I usually stay quiet too, but lets just ignore the blatent troll now, before all the other lurkers like me also feel the need to come out of hiding and spell out what a pillock this guy is. He's not buying himself much credability by suggesting his friend or whatever has been in the business for 20 years, doesn't recoginse linux as anything worthwhile and chooses exchange as his mail server for an isp. Exchange hasn't been around half that time, and microsoft not much more, so you may as well cram all that usefull experience of something or other right up your ass, cos it's sure not going to impress one person on this list. But just as you mention exchange prevents you using pop or imap - here's the scoop - exchange supports pop and imap. Although personally I think people like you should just stick to windows. Or maybe buy a mac, as you do sound like the kind of person to get confused between two mouse buttons and blame it on the keyboard manufacturer. -- dan
Re: 178 days and counting
Also, just to let Mr. Pastern know -- I am running X4.2, as well as KDE3.1 beta. EVERYTHING that I have was gotten via apt. The system works. It isn't difficult. Also, kde.org has a apt-source so you can get KDE 3.0.3 IIRC. If you need help setting it up, people here are willing to do that, although I'm sure there are tons of online docs you can look at to get it up and running, which is what I did. I am sorry it didn't work as you planned, but accept the fact that *maybe, just maybe* you did something slightly wrong. Feel free to email me personally and I'll try to help you get set up. Otherwise stop flaming the list please, it gets you nowhere and wastes our time. Regards, Dustin Melancon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dan Slatford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: Re: 178 days and counting > Thomas Schoepf wrote: > > > Let me summarize: > > > > 1. you put the wrong line into sources.list > > 2. 8 hours of trial & error but you couldn't figure that out > > 3. you blame it all on kde > > 4. although you said that you "want nothing to do with kde" you keep > >posting on debian-kde > > 5. you were pointed to the correct line for sources.list > > 6. seems you're still blaming kde for it. > > > > Sorry, I usually stay quiet but you really need a break to think about > > whose fault it was to use a wrong sources.list. > > > I usually stay quiet too, but lets just ignore the blatent troll now, > before all the other lurkers like me also feel the need to come out of > hiding and spell out what a pillock this guy is. > > He's not buying himself much credability by suggesting his friend or > whatever has been in the business for 20 years, doesn't recoginse linux > as anything worthwhile and chooses exchange as his mail server for an > isp. Exchange hasn't been around half that time, and microsoft not much > more, so you may as well cram all that usefull experience of something > or other right up your ass, cos it's sure not going to impress one > person on this list. But just as you mention exchange prevents you using > pop or imap - here's the scoop - exchange supports pop and imap. > Although personally I think people like you should just stick to > windows. Or maybe buy a mac, as you do sound like the kind of person to > get confused between two mouse buttons and blame it on the keyboard > manufacturer. > > -- > dan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: 178 days and counting
On Saturday 28 September 2002 04:34 pm, David Pastern wrote: > eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network > where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the > gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single > touch of linux as he thinks it's a pile of shit and a fad - oh and he does > have 20 years or so of experience in the IT industry). Therefore I do not > have a pop3 or imap account to set up mutt, evolution etc. At the moment > i'm using the ms exchange net feature (ie retrieval of email by logging on > via http to my exchange account), which saves me having to reboot into ms > windows to check my email. I do not intend to change the way my mail > works, nor should I have to. I think i'll just keep my mouth shut from now > on and read teh posts and that's it. I'm to the point where i'm seroiusly > considering formatting it and just make it all ms windows again. Thanks > kde - you've really turned me off. Oh and for those that bitch about me > not having the "correct" line in my sources.list I actually did try that as > well, with the same dependency fuckups. I'm beyond caring now. > > Dave > *plonk* - Derek
