[Debconf-team] DebConf17 in Montreal: I'd like to help

2017-04-10 Thread znoteer
Hi,



I live in Montreal.  I've been using Debian since either Hamm or Bo.
I'm not a developer, just a humble user, but I love Debian.  I'd like to
help with DebConf in Montreal this summer.


I'm going back to school at the end of May after a medical leave.  I
don't yet know what my schedule will be in August, but I should be able
to find some time to work at a welcome desk or something like that.


Where do I go from here?



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Re: [Debconf-team] Looking to help out

2017-04-10 Thread znoteer
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017, at 15:31, Gabriel Filion wrote:

> Hi there Molly and znot...@hailmail.net,

> 

> Molly de Blanc:

>> I've lent hands for the past couple of years around diversity

>> scholarships and a few other things here and there. Who (and
>> what) needs
>> some extra hands and eyes right now?

> 

> znot...@hailmail.net:

>> I live in Montreal.  I've been using Debian since either Hamm or Bo.
>> I'm not a developer, just a humble user, but I love Debian.  I'd like
>> to help with DebConf in Montreal this summer.

> 

> Thanks for offering your help, it's most welcome :)

> 

> We mostly use either this mailing list or the IRC channel[0] to
> organise.
> 

> [0]: #debconf-team on the OFTC network.

> 



Thanks Gabriel.  I should be able to attend the next IRC meeting.  I'll
have a look at the last meeting's transcript.




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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf17 in Montreal: I'd like to help

2017-04-12 Thread znoteer
Hi pollo et al.,



Excellent.  That sounds like a good approach.



See you soon





On Tue, Apr 11, 2017, at 13:39, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:

> Hi!

> 

> I see you plan to come to the Bug Squashing Party on Friday! A
> few of us
> will be there.

> 

> I think talking to you directly and showing you a few things that you
> could do in person will be much more efficient and friendly
> than trying
> to pack everything is this mail.

> 

> See you on Friday!

> 

> --

> pollo

> 

> On 2017-04-10 12:35, znot...@hailmail.net wrote:

>> Hi,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I live in Montreal.  I've been using Debian since either Hamm or Bo.
>> I'm not a developer, just a humble user, but I love Debian.  I'd
>> like to
>> help with DebConf in Montreal this summer.

>> 

>> 

>> I'm going back to school at the end of May after a medical leave.  I
>> don't yet know what my schedule will be in August, but I should
>> be able
>> to find some time to work at a welcome desk or something like that.

>> 

>> 

>> Where do I go from here?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Thanks,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> --

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> znot...@hailmail.net

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> _

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>> Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org

>> http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

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> 

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Re: [Debconf-team] Monday May 29th meeting -- starting at 14:00 UTC

2017-05-29 Thread znoteer
Hi,

> Le 28 mai 2017 à 21:03, Louis-Philippe Véronneau  a écrit 
> :
> 
> Hello!
> 
> This is a reminder for *Monday May 29th meeting*. As always, the meeting
> will start at 14:00 UTC.

Sorry, I won't be able to make the Mon 29 May 14:00 UTC meeting.  Got school 
stuff to do.  I'll be sure to catch up on the IRC transcript when I get back.

I'm not heavy involved in anything at the moment, so I don't think my absence 
should disburb anything :)

Have a pleasant and productive meeting.

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[Debconf-team] Fwd: Re: Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17

2017-07-25 Thread znoteer
Hi gang,

I'm forwarding this query that came to my personal email as a result of my 
sending of the CfP for Open Day.  It's from the president of FACIL.

Thanks,

znoteer

> -- Message d'origine --
> De : Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote 
> À :  znot...@hailmail.net
> Date : 25 juillet 2017 à 10:11
> Sujet : Re: Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17
> 
> Le 2017-04-21 à 15:38, znot...@hailmail.net a écrit :
> > Nous sommes à la recherche de présentations, d'activités participatives
> > ou de toutes autres activités à propos de Debian et des logiciels
> > libres. Les activités en français et en anglais sont les bienvenues.
> 
> Juste pour confirmer : y a-t-il un espace pour des kiosques ?
> 
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> Président de FACIL
> presid...@facil.qc.ca
> 1-844-443-2245
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Re: [Debconf-team] espace kiosque lors de la journée portes ouvertes, était: Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17

2017-07-25 Thread znoteer
(an English translation follows for the debconf-team mailing list)

Bonjour Mathieu,

> Le 25 juillet 2017 à 10:11, Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote a écrit :
> 
> Le 2017-04-21 à 15:38, znot...@hailmail.net a écrit :
> > Nous sommes à la recherche de présentations, d'activités participatives
> > ou de toutes autres activités à propos de Debian et des logiciels
> > libres. Les activités en français et en anglais sont les bienvenues.
> 
> Juste pour confirmer : y a-t-il un espace pour des kiosques ?

Oui, il y aura un espace pour étaler votre matériel.  Présentez-vous à 
l'accueil DebConf quand vous arrivez.  Quelqu'un vous dirigera vers le bon 
endroit.

Bonne journée,

znoteer

---translation---

Mathieu asked in the original email if there would be space for kiosks during 
Open Day.  I replied that there would be.  I suggested he bring his things to 
the Front Desk when he arrives on site so that someone could direct him to 
where he could set up his display.
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[Debconf-team] Fwd: Re: espace kiosque lors de la journée portes ouvertes, était: Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17

2017-07-25 Thread znoteer
Received in my personal email account.  Translation:

FACIL is wondering if there is a deadline for submitting via

https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/new/ because they are toying with the idea 
of presenting their current project "Services FACiLes" https://facil.services 
as well as having a kiosk.

The deadline has passed, hasn't it?

Thanks,

znoteer

> -- Message d'origine --
> De : Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote 
> À :  znot...@mailbox.org
> Date : 25 juillet 2017 à 14:19
> Sujet : Re: espace kiosque lors de la journée portes ouvertes, était: 
> Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17
> 
> Le 2017-07-25 à 13:02, znot...@mailbox.org a écrit :
> > Oui, il y aura un espace pour étaler votre matériel.  Présentez-vous à 
> > l'accueil DebConf quand vous arrivez.  Quelqu'un vous dirigera vers le bon 
> > endroit.
> 
> Merci beaucoup.
> 
> J'ai une deuxième petite question et après je te laisse tranquille,
> promis ! ;-)
> 
> En plus de tenir un kiosque, nous jonglons avec l'idée de proposer une
> présentation de notre projet Services FACiLes (https://facil.services).
> 
> QUESTION : Y a-t-il une date limite pour soumettre via le formulaire à
> l'adresse https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/new/ ?
> 
> (D'après ce que je peux voir sur le site, il y a encore de la place,
> mais peut-être que le site n'est pas entièrement à jour.)
> 
> Librement,
> 
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> presid...@facil.qc.ca
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Re: [Debconf-team] espace kiosque lors de la journée portes ouvertes, était: Ouverture des soumissions pour la journée portes ouvertes DebCon17

2017-07-25 Thread znoteer
(English translation follows)

Bonjour Mathieu,

> Le 25 juillet 2017 à 14:19, Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote  a 
> écrit :
> 
[snip]
> 
> En plus de tenir un kiosque, nous jonglons avec l'idée de proposer une
> présentation de notre projet Services FACiLes (https://facil.services).
> 
> QUESTION : Y a-t-il une date limite pour soumettre via le formulaire à
> l'adresse https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/new/ ?

La date limite est passée, mais vous pourriez toujours soumettre votre idée.  
S'il est possible d'arranger quelque chose, la sous-équipe qui se charge du 
contenu de la conférence le fera.

Je vous encourage, cependant, de faire vite si vous pensez proposer quelque 
chose.  Debconf arrive à grands pas.

Au plaisir,

znoteer

translation

Mathieu asks if it is still possible to submit a talk idea via the link 
https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/new/ I've replied that the deadline has 
passed, but they can still submit.  If the content team can work something out, 
they will.  I've suggested that they submit as soon as they can.
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[Debconf-team] Fwd: Présentation sur le projet Services FACiLes

2017-07-27 Thread znoteer
Hi debconf-team and content,

We suggested to FACIL that they could still suggest a presentation for Open Day 
even though the deadline had passed.  They tried to submit via the web form, 
but they couldn't because of the passed deadline.  He's asked if there was some 
other way to submit, so I'm sending this to debconf-team and content in the 
hope that someone can look over their proposal.

The proposal is below.  It has been submitted in English and in French.  The 
English version follows the French version.

Can the content team please have a look at their idea below?

Thanks,

znoteer

> -- Message d'origine --
> De : Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote 
> À :  znot...@mailbox.org
> Date : 26 juillet 2017 à 12:28
> Sujet : Présentation sur le projet Services FACiLes
> 
> Le 2017-07-25 à 20:27, znot...@mailbox.org a écrit :
> > La date limite est passée, mais vous pourriez toujours soumettre votre 
> > idée. 
> > S'il est possible d'arranger quelque chose, la sous-équipe qui se charge du
> > contenu de la conférence le fera.

[translation:] the deadline has passed, but you can still submit your idea.  If 
the content team can fit you in, they will.

> Je ne peux pas soumettre à partir du formulaire sur
> debconf17.debconf.org car l'inscription au site n'est plus possible.

[translation:] I can't submit via the form at debconf17.debconf.org because 
submissions are no longer possible.

> S'il y a une autre façon de soumettre, merci de me l'indiquer.

[translation:] If there is another way to submit, please let me know.

> Sinon, peut-être que tu peux soumettre notre projet de présentation à
> qui de droit ?

[translation:] If not, maybe you could forward our talk idea to the appropriate 
people?


[their proposal follows. French version first]

> ---
> ---
> Title: Le projet Services FACiLes: qu'est-ce que c'est et comment
> participer? / The Services FACiLes Project: what is it and how to get
> involved?
> 
> Speaker: Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote + Romain Dessort
> 
> Track: Open Day
> 
> Type: Potato
> 
> Time: Aug 05 (Sat), 12:00
> 
> Duration: 0:45
> 
> Description: (English below) En mai 2016, FACiL ajoutait à son plan
> d'action triennal (2016-2017, 2017-2018, 2018-2019) l'objectif fort
> ambitieux de déployer et d'offrir publiquement un petit éventail de
> services libres, éthiques, décentralisés et solidaires. Ces services
> seront sans pistage publicitaire, sans frais et fait en commun avec la
> communauté de leurs utilisateurs et de leurs utilisatrices.
> L'infrastructure logicielle que nous bâtissons repose essentiellement
> sur Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> Le projet s'inscrit dans le cadre du Collectif des Hébergeurs
> Alternatifs, Transparents, Ouverts, Neutres et Solidaires (CHATONS)
> initié par l'association Framasoft, championne de la dégooglisation
> massive de la France occupée par les Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon et
> Microsoft (GAFAM) de ce monde.
> 
> La dite occupation étant planétaire, FACiL se propose de faire sa part
> pour livrer bataille au Québec, avec l'aide de ses partenaires locaux et
> internationaux.
> 
> Découvrez l'état d'avancement du projet de FACiL et aussi comment vous
> pouvez y prendre part dès maintenant!

[English version of the proposal]

> /In May 2016, FACiL added to its three-year action plan (2016-2017,
> 2017-2018, 2018-2019) the ambitious objective of deploying and offering
> to the public a small range of free-as-in-freedom, ethical,
> decentralized and community-oriented online services. Theses services
> will be without tracking, without fees and built in common with the
> community of their users. The software infrastructure that we are in the
> process of building rests essentially on Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> The project is part of the CHATONS collective initiated by non-profit
> organization Framasoft, the champion of mass degooglization in France,
> which is currently occupied by the Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon and
> Microsoft (GAFAM) of this world.
> 
> The said occupation being planetary, FACiL proposes to do its part to
> fight battle in Québec, with the help of its local and international
> partners.
> 
> Find out how FACiL's project is progressing and how you can get involved
> now!/
> 
> ---
> ---
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Re: [Debconf-team] [debconf-team] Weekly meeting (Monday Aug 21 14:00 UTC), and polling for next meeting time

2017-08-29 Thread znoteer
> Le 28 août 2017 à 12:15, Yao Wei  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> From the poll, that could be:
> 
>   2017-09-05 01:00 UTC
>   2017-09-06 01:00 UTC
>   2017-09-07 01:00 UTC
>   2017-09-07 13:00 UTC
> 
> We can pick up from one of these.

My preference would be for either 2017-09-06 01:00 UTC or 2017-09-07 13:00 UTC
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Re: [Debconf-team] Call for Review: DC18 Brochure & Flyer

2017-09-10 Thread znoteer
> Le 10 septembre 2017 à 03:30, "(陳昌倬)"  a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Please help to review DC18 brochure and flyer in [0]. The following is
> TODO items right now:

Hi Changzhuo,

I couldn't open either of the documents.  Evince told me that it couldn't 
display docs of type html.  My browser wouldn't open them either.

I don't know if this is related or not, but the size reported on the download 
page does not match the size reported for the downloaded version, which seems 
weird to me.

brochure.en.pdf: website says 26739898, my system says 179325448
flyer.en.pdf: website reports size as 35669, my system says 240193

Have I screwed up something, or is there a problem with the files?  I'd be 
happy to review the documents, but can't at present.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Call for Review: DC18 Brochure & Flyer

2017-09-10 Thread znoteer
> Le 10 septembre 2017 à 10:37, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 08:51:02AM -0400, znot...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > > Le 10 septembre 2017 à 03:30, "(陳昌倬)"  a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Please help to review DC18 brochure and flyer in [0]. The following is
> > > TODO items right now:
> > 
> > Hi Changzhuo,
> > 
> > I couldn't open either of the documents.  Evince told me that it couldn't 
> > display docs of type html.  My browser wouldn't open them either.
> 
> You can use the following command to get brochure & flyer in git
> repository:
> 
> git clone https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debconf-data/dc18.git

Thanks Changzhuo, that got me the docs.

I've just had a quick look at them.  I think it's probably to early in the 
process to be worried about formatting and typo's at this point, content is the 
most important, in my view.

I see two content related issues.  The first is that Debian calls itself "the 
universal operating system".  On page three of the brochure, there is a heading 
"The Free Operating System".  To my ears that sounds conflictual.  I would 
change that heading to "The Universal Operating System".  I might then change 
the following heading from "Debian is Universal, Debian is Choice" to "Debian 
is Freedom, Debian is Choice".

The second content related issue is on page 9.  The 4th paragraph under the 
heading "The Need for Sponsorship" talks about DebConf in Montreal as if it 
hasn't happened yet.  You need to change that to talk about Hsinchu and how 
many attendees you expect, etc.

My first impression is that the rest of the content is not bad.  Zobel has 
already pointed out some formatting issues.  I won't repeat them here.  But, I 
wouldn't worry about formatting and typos too much until you are completely 
happy with the content, because changing content can often change the 
formatting so you might as well save all the formatting issues for last.  It 
sucks having to refix something you've already fixed just because you made a 
content change.

I'll try to find time to have another look later.

Looks good mostly,
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Re: [Debconf-team] [debconf-team] Weekly meeting (Monday Aug 21 14:00 UTC), and polling for next meeting time

2017-09-10 Thread znoteer
> Le 10 septembre 2017 à 11:10, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:31:20PM +0800, Yao Wei wrote:
> > I started another framadate datepicking for the next meeting time:
> > 
> >   https://framadate.org/VjUqJ8vOXBvhfq6F
> > 
> > This time we only select from Sep 11 to Sep 15, 1h and 13h.
> 
> Looks like the following 3 slots are all good for meeting:
> 
> * Sep 12, 13h
> * Sep 13, 13h
> * Sep 14, 13h
> 
> 
> So can we just select Sep 14, 13:00 UTC+0 as our next meeting time so
> that people can have more days to prepare the meeting?

The 14th works for me.

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[Debconf-team] Flyer and brochure suggested edits

2017-09-27 Thread znoteer
Hi,

I've had a look at the flyer and brochure.  I have some suggestions.  I've 
editted the respective *.en.tex files to incorporate my suggestions then diff'd 
the original *.en.tex files against my modified versions.  I've attached the 
resulting diff output to this email.

One change I didn't make that I think we need to address is the use of "swag 
bags" and "conference bags" in the sponsorship benefits table.  We need to pick 
one term and use it in both places, IMO.

Another inconsistency that I noticed which also needs fixing is the use of both 
"t-shirts" and "T-shirts" in the two docs.  We need to decide which form to use 
and then use it throughout.  I didn't have time to address this.

I'm a noob to this conference planning gig and to contributing to Debian in 
general. Please feel free to comment on my suggestions.

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znot...@mailbox.org--- brochure.en.tex 2017-09-26 22:16:30.666530802 -0400
+++ brochure.en.znoteer.tex 2017-09-27 17:19:01.594759142 -0400
@@ -242,7 +242,7 @@
 \onehalfspacing
 \Large
 
-DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu Taiwan in late July 2018. We anticipate 
600
+DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu Taiwan in late July and early August 
2018. We anticipate 600
 attendees and major advances for Debian and for Free Software in general.
 
 We invite you to join us and support this event!
@@ -259,7 +259,7 @@
 Thank you for your interest in DebConf, the annual conference of the Debian
 Project!
 
-This brochure should give you an overview of the sponsorship opportunities for
+This brochure provides an overview of the sponsorship opportunities for
 our conference.  It also introduces the Debian Project, and elaborates on the
 role of the annual conference within the project.
 
@@ -298,7 +298,7 @@
 
 \section{Debian}
 
-\subsection{The Free Operating System}
+\subsection{The Universal Operating System}
 
 Debian is an operating system consisting entirely of Free and Open Source
 Software. The Debian project is dedicated to remaining 100\% free and to being
@@ -306,7 +306,7 @@
 \textbf{Our priorities are Free Software} and \textbf{our users}.
 Our strict set of guidelines serves as an example for many other projects.
 
-\subsection{Debian is Universal, Debian is Choice}
+\subsection{Debian is Freedom. Debian is Choice}
 
 Debian is known for its adherence to the Unix and Free Software philosophies,
 and for its extensiveness — the current release includes \textbf{over 51,000
@@ -347,8 +347,8 @@
 developed operating systems build on Debian}, including the widely popular
 Ubuntu and Linux Mint distributions, LiMuX, and Knoppix. More specialized
 derivatives range from grml (optimized for system administrators) to Tails
-(optimized for privacy). Debian runs in hundreds of schools and, thanks to
-SkoleLinux, powers gaming platforms with SteamOS. Debian OS has been deployed 
by
+(optimized for privacy). Debian runs in hundreds of schools thanks to
+SkoleLinux, and powers gaming platforms with SteamOS. Debian OS has been 
deployed by
 public institutions such as the cities of Munich and Vienna, and the German
 Federal Office for Information Security (BSI).
 
@@ -406,7 +406,7 @@
 \subsection{Live World-wide Video Streaming}
 
 A dedicated team of volunteers with years of experience with video coverage 
will
-record all sessions at DebConf, to be streamed live via the Internet. This
+record all previously scheduled sessions at DebConf, to be streamed live via 
the Internet. This
 allows for \textbf{remote participation by those who are not able to attend.}
 
 % FIXME: Add url to previous year's videos?
@@ -442,7 +442,7 @@
   as an annual event, showcases that community and enables it to
   flourish}. DebConf16 was no exception. I encourage anyone who wants to
   examine first-hand a good model of a functioning Free Software
-  community attend DebConf.
+  community to attend DebConf.
 }{Bradley M. Kuhn, Software Freedom Conservancy}
 %\ Asked Bradley's permission on August 20th 2016, received it on August 23rd 
2016
 
@@ -457,7 +457,7 @@
 
   I have to say networking was the highlight of DebConf for me. \textbf{Before
   attending, I had only been in contact with 3 people that were at the
-  conference, and those 3 had been virtual contacts}, I didn’t really know
+  conference, and those 3 had been virtual contacts}, I didn't really know
   them. [\ldots] I got to meet lots of people that way, met some Debian
   contributors from my home country (Brazil), some from my current city (NYC),
   and yet others that had similar interests as I do who I might work with in 
the
@@ -510,7 +510,7 @@
 & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Access to swag bags
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Logo on t-shirt and conference bag &
+Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & 

[Debconf-team] Further suggestion for flyer and brochure

2017-09-29 Thread znoteer
Hi all,

I have a couple more suggestions for the flyer.  I brought these up on #dc-t 
where there was some limited discussion (started at 19:12 UTC, for those who 
want to see it).  

"Access to swag in conference bags" sounds like sponsors, bronze and up, can 
take what they want from the swag bags.  We want to let them know that, rather, 
that they can put things in the swag bags.

After some discussion with another native English speaker, we came up with 
"Provide materials for conference bags".  Ie., they can put stuff in the bags.  
It also removes the word swag which may not be understood in all countries.

Changing it in the flyer implies changing it in the brochure as well.

The other suggestion is to remove the triple repetition of "sponsor" and 
"sponsorship" in the "for further information" sentence below the table.  Thus,

 "For further information about Debian and DebConf, a complete description 
of the advantages of the various sponsor levels, as well as further sponsorship 
opportunities, please see our detailed sponsorship brochure.

would become

 "For further information about Debian and DebConf, a complete description 
of the advantages of the various sponsorship levels, as well as further 
opportunities, please see our detailed brochure.

Should the community find these suggestions acceptable, there are diffs 
attached to this message.

Thanks,
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+++ flyer.en.znoteer_02.tex 2017-09-29 15:01:34.742193542 -0400
@@ -188,7 +188,7 @@
 < \${2,000} & \${2,000} & \${5,000} & \${10,000} & \${20,000} \\
 Logo on sponsor webpage
 & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Access to swag in conference bags
+Promotional materials in conference bags
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
@@ -216,8 +216,7 @@
 \vspace{0.2cm}
 
 For further information about Debian and DebConf, a complete description of the
-advantages of the various sponsor levels, as well as further sponsorship
-opportunities, please see our detailed sponsorship brochure:
+advantages of the various sponsorship levels, as well as further 
opportunities, please see our detailed brochure:
 
 \end{large}
 
--- brochure.en.tex 2017-09-28 18:26:34.862522573 -0400
+++ brochure.en.znoteer_02.tex  2017-09-29 15:05:51.095725082 -0400
@@ -509,7 +509,7 @@
 < \${2,000} & \${2,000} & \${5,000} & \${10,000} & \${20,000} \\
 Logo on sponsor webpage
 & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Access to swag bags
+Promotional materials in conference bags
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
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[Debconf-team] Correction, re: Further suggestion for flyer and brochure

2017-09-29 Thread znoteer
Slight correction to my original message:

> Le 29 septembre 2017 à 16:19, znot...@mailbox.org a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a couple more suggestions for the flyer.  I brought these up on #dc-t 
> where there was some 
> limited discussion (started at 19:12 UTC, for those who want to see it).  
> 
> "Access to swag in conference bags" sounds like sponsors, bronze and up, can 
> take what they want
> from the swag bags.  We want to let them know that, rather, that they can put 
> things in the swag
> bags.
> 
> After some discussion with another native English speaker, we came up with 
> "Provide materials for
> conference bags".  Ie., they can put stuff in the bags.  It also removes the 
> word swag which may
> not be understood in all countries.

What we came up with (and what is in the diff) is "Promotional materials for 
conference bags".  It is actually my friend who gets credit for this suggestion.

I should add that I could go with (though my friend doesn't like it) "Access to 
conference bags", but I find that "Access to swag in conference bags" is not at 
all what we are offering sponsors.

Thanks,

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[Debconf-team] an edit to https://debconf18.debconf.org/

2017-10-01 Thread znoteer
Hi, I had a look at the static page.  I'd like to suggest a change to the 
opening sentence to make it more closely match the language used in the flyer 
and brochure.  The diff is attached.  Comments are welcome.

The rest of the static page seems to conform to the language of the other two 
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Re: [Debconf-team] Review DC18 sponsor email template

2017-10-01 Thread znoteer
Hi ChangZhuo,


> Le 1 octobre 2017 à 09:09, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The following is email template for dc18 sponsor, please help to review
> and feedback.
> 
> 
> Subject:  sponsorship of Debian Conference, July ~ Augest 2018 in 
> Hsinchu

[snip]

Would it be possible to have the document as an attachment?  I could copy that, 
edit the copy, and then make a diff like I've already done a couple of times.  

It seems it would be hard to follow were I too start editting a reply to your 
email.  Though, if you'd like me to do it that way, or some different way, just 
say the word.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Review DC18 sponsor email template

2017-10-02 Thread znoteer
> Le 2 octobre 2017 à 10:55, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 08:48:04PM -0400, znot...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > Would it be possible to have the document as an attachment?  I could copy 
> > that, edit the copy, > > 
> 
> No problem. See attachment.
> 
> 
I've a couple of suggestions.  Nothing was technically wrong grammatically.  I 
just think these suggestions help readability.  See the attached diff.  
Comments are always welcome.

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znot...@mailbox.org--- email-template-en.txt	2017-10-02 11:50:21.0 -0400
+++ email-template-en.znoteer.txt	2017-10-02 12:10:28.763295181 -0400
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-Subject:  sponsorship of Debian Conference, July ~ August 2018 in Hsinchu
+Subject:  sponsorship of Debian Conference, July-August 2018 in Hsinchu, Taiwan
 CC: spons...@debconf.org
 
  DONT FORGET TO ATTACH THE FLYER TO THIS MAIL 
@@ -7,20 +7,19 @@
 Hi ,
 
  as the person
-to contact> 
+to contact> 
 regarding possible sponsorship of the next annual Debian developers'
 conference, "DebConf18". 
 
-DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu, Taiwan during July ~ August 2018
+DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu, Taiwan from 29 July to 5 August 2018
 (see https://debconf18.debconf.org). We're now starting the
 fundraising campaign and wondered if  might be interested
 in participating.
 
-It goes without saying that we are offering several perks and
-recognition in return. You can find a summary of these perks in the
-flyer attached to this mail. More details are available in our
-sponsorship brochure:
+It goes without saying that we are offering recognition and several perks 
+in return. You can find a summary in the flyer attached to this mail. More 
+details are available in our sponsorship brochure:
 https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf
 
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[Debconf-team] I fixed a typo in the flyer

2017-10-02 Thread znoteer
Hi all,

Attached is a diff to fix a minor typo that I didn't notice in previous 
iterations in the flyer.

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+++ flyer.en.znoteer_03.tex 2017-10-02 12:26:47.153119252 -0400
@@ -138,7 +138,7 @@
 \end{Huge}
 
 \begin{LARGE}
-Hsinchu, July 29th - Augest 5th 2018
+Hsinchu, July 29th - August 5th, 2018
 \end{LARGE}
 
 \end{center}
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Re: [Debconf-team] an edit to https://debconf18.debconf.org/

2017-10-03 Thread znoteer
Hi Yao Wei,

Why are you trying to avoid saying DebConf 2018?

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> Le 2 octobre 2017 à 23:37, Yao Wei  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to prevent saying DebConf 2018 but use DebConf18 or In 2018,
> DebConf...
> 
> For now if you visit https://medicalwei.github.io/debconf18-landing/
> this is my updated results.  Also before migrating the website to Alioth
> (or Salsa, if it set up quick and can serve static pages), you can send
> pull requests in GitHub as long as you have the account:
> 
>   https://github.com/medicalwei/debconf18-landing
> 
> Ciao,
> Yao Wei
> 
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 08:17:54PM -0400, znot...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > Hi, I had a look at the static page.  I'd like to suggest a change to
> > the opening sentence to make it more closely match the language used
> > in the flyer and brochure.  The diff is attached.  Comments are
> > welcome.
> > 
> > The rest of the static page seems to conform to the language of the
> > other two docs.
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Re: [Debconf-team] an edit to https://debconf18.debconf.org/

2017-10-03 Thread znoteer
Hi, 

> Le 3 octobre 2017 à 20:22, Medical Wei  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds nitpicking but I feel unsure if DebConf 2018 is also a valid
> title.

Fair enough.  How about DebConf18 ("DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu, 
...")?  I'm just a little uncomfortable with the phrasing of "In 2018,..." It 
feels a tiny bit awkward.  

But it is not incorrect, so I won't insist if you want to keep it as is.  

It also will be outdated in January.  Might we be sending out sponsorship 
requests in January, or will that all be done before hand?  If not, will we 
remember to change "In 2018,..." to "This year, ..."?

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> 
> Yao Wei
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 02:31  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Yao Wei,
> >
> > Why are you trying to avoid saying DebConf 2018?
> >
> > --
> > znoteer
> > znot...@mailbox.org
> >
> >
> >
> > > Le 2 octobre 2017 à 23:37, Yao Wei  a écrit :
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am trying to prevent saying DebConf 2018 but use DebConf18 or In 2018,
> > > DebConf...
> > >
> > > For now if you visit https://medicalwei.github.io/debconf18-landing/
> > > this is my updated results.  Also before migrating the website to Alioth
> > > (or Salsa, if it set up quick and can serve static pages), you can send
> > > pull requests in GitHub as long as you have the account:
> > >
> > >   https://github.com/medicalwei/debconf18-landing
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Yao Wei
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 08:17:54PM -0400, znot...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > > > Hi, I had a look at the static page.  I'd like to suggest a change to
> > > > the opening sentence to make it more closely match the language used
> > > > in the flyer and brochure.  The diff is attached.  Comments are
> > > > welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The rest of the static page seems to conform to the language of the
> > > > other two docs.
> >
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[Debconf-team] footnote to table in brochure and flyer

2017-10-09 Thread znoteer
Hi czchen,

Attached are diffs for putting footnotes to the table in the dc18 brochure and 
flyer.

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+++ brochure.en.tex	2017-10-09 02:42:04.683239136 -0400
@@ -72,6 +72,7 @@
 
 %% Better tables
 \usepackage{tabularx}
+\usepackage{tablefootnote}
 
 %% Wrapped figures
 \usepackage{wrapfig}
@@ -489,13 +490,13 @@
 
 %TODO we should add a statement about ordering within each level so that all
 %sponsors know the rules from the start.
-
 \begin{table}[htb!]
 {\small
 \doublespacing
 % rowcolors hack: the offset row ('1') does not work, so I specify white
 % first:
 \rowcolors{1}{white}{DebConf_tableheader!20}
+\begin{minipage}{17cm}
 \begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{>{\hspace{-0.5em}}X*{5}{>{\hspace{-0.5em}}c}}
 %\bfseries\color{DebConf_tableheader} Description &
 &
@@ -514,7 +515,8 @@
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Presence at job fair &
+Presence at job fair~\footnote{~Space for kiosks is limited during Job Fair.  
+First come, first served.} &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on video streams and conference banners &
 & & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
@@ -523,6 +525,7 @@
 Mention in press releases &
 & & & & $\surd$ \\
 \end{tabularx}
+\end{minipage}
 }
 \end{table}
 
--- flyer.en.tex_orig	2017-10-02 14:39:35.588553032 -0400
+++ flyer.en.tex	2017-10-09 02:57:36.408785427 -0400
@@ -74,6 +74,7 @@
 
 %% Better tables
 \usepackage{tabularx}
+\usepackage{tablefootnote}
 
 %% Wrapped figures
 \usepackage{wrapfig}
@@ -138,7 +139,7 @@
 \end{Huge}
 
 \begin{LARGE}
-Hsinchu, July 29th - Augest 5th 2018
+Hsinchu, July 29th - August 5th 2018
 \end{LARGE}
 
 \end{center}
@@ -174,6 +175,7 @@
 % rowcolors hack: the offset row ('1') does not work, so I specify white
 % first:
 \rowcolors{1}{white}{DebConf_tableheader!20}
+\begin{minipage}{17cm}
 \begin{tabularx}{0.9\textwidth}{>{\hspace{-0.5em}}X*{5}{>{\hspace{-0.5em}}c}}
 %\bfseries\color{DebConf_tableheader} Description &
 &
@@ -188,11 +190,12 @@
 < \${2,000} & \${2,000} & \${5,000} & \${10,000} & \${20,000} \\
 Logo on sponsor webpage
 & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Access to swag in conference bags
+Provide materials for conference bags
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Presence at job fair &
+Presence at job fair~\footnote{~Space for kiosks is limited during Job Fair.  
+First come, first served.} &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on video streams and conference banners &
 & & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
@@ -201,6 +204,7 @@
 Mention in press releases &
 & & & & $\surd$ \\
 \end{tabularx}
+\end{minipage}
 \end{center}
 }
 \end{table}
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[Debconf-team] Fwd: Re: DC18 brochure & flyer final review

2017-10-09 Thread znoteer
I meant to send this to the list.  Sorry.

-- Message d'origine --
De : znot...@mailbox.org
À :  "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" 
Date : 9 octobre 2017 à 18:36
Sujet : Re: [Debconf-team] DC18 brochure & flyer final review
> Le 9 octobre 2017 à 09:44, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> The latest DC18 brochure & flyer are in [0]. Please help to review them
> so that we can start to look for sponsor.

I found some regressions in the docs.  I'll send diffs in a few hours.

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[Debconf-team] Fwd: Re: DC18 brochure & flyer final review

2017-10-09 Thread znoteer
This was meant for the list.

-- Message d'origine --
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À :  Gunnar Wolf 
Date : 9 octobre 2017 à 18:42
Sujet : Re: [Debconf-team] DC18 brochure & flyer final review
> Le 9 octobre 2017 à 12:25, Gunnar Wolf  a écrit :
> 
> 
[snip]
> Questions as a non-native English speaker:
> 
> - The caption on page 4's picture, shouldn't it be "...updating ON
>   Debian status", "giving an update on Debian's status", or something
>   like it? It's not as if Chris updated Debian's status by delivering
>   a talk.

Good catch.  I would suggest "Chris Lamb, Debian Project Leader, giving a 
status update at Debconf17."  I include this suggestion when I fix some 
regressions in a a few hours.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Fwd: Re: DC18 brochure & flyer final review

2017-10-09 Thread znoteer
> Le 9 octobre 2017 à 18:45, znot...@mailbox.org a écrit :
> 
> I meant to send this to the list.  Sorry.
> 
> -- Message d'origine --
> De : znot...@mailbox.org
> À :  "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" 
> Date : 9 octobre 2017 à 18:36
> Sujet : Re: [Debconf-team] DC18 brochure & flyer final review
> > Le 9 octobre 2017 à 09:44, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> > écrit :
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The latest DC18 brochure & flyer are in [0]. Please help to review them
> > so that we can start to look for sponsor.
> 
> I found some regressions in the docs.  I'll send diffs in a few hours.

Attached are the diffs.

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+++ flyer.en.tex	2017-10-09 19:02:05.265261914 -0400
@@ -220,8 +220,8 @@
 \vspace{0.2cm}
 
 For further information about Debian and DebConf, a complete description of the
-advantages of the various sponsor levels, as well as further sponsorship
-opportunities, please see our detailed sponsorship brochure:
+advantages of the various sponsorship levels, as well as further sponsorship
+opportunities, please see our detailed brochure:
 
 \end{large}
 
--- brochure.en.tex_orig	2017-10-09 18:23:18.283410067 -0400
+++ brochure.en.tex	2017-10-09 20:16:35.611872588 -0400
@@ -251,7 +251,7 @@
 \onehalfspacing
 \Large
 
-DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu Taiwan in late July and early August 2018. We anticipate 600
+DebConf18 will take place in Hsinchu Taiwan in late July and early August, 2018. We anticipate 600
 attendees and major advances for Debian and for Free Software in general.
 
 We invite you to join us and support this event!
@@ -378,7 +378,7 @@
   \includegraphics[width=0.9\linewidth]{img/Bits_from_the_DPL.jpg}
   \label{fig:dc16-photo}
   \vfill
-  \footnotesize \emph{Chris Lamb updating Debian status as the Debian Project Leader}
+  \footnotesize \emph{Chris Lamb, Debian Project Leader, giving a Debian status update}
 \end{center}
 \vspace{-1.5em}%
 \end{wrapfigure}
@@ -406,7 +406,7 @@
 widen our community, and for our sponsors to increase their visibility. A job
 fair (see below) will be arranged as well, in case you are looking to recruit!
 
-\subsection{Live World-wide Video Streaming}
+\subsection{Live World-wide Video Streaming and Archiving}
 
 A dedicated team of volunteers with years of experience with video coverage will
 record all previously scheduled sessions at DebConf, to be streamed live via the Internet. This
@@ -414,8 +414,8 @@
 
 % FIXME: Add url to previous year's videos?
 
-All videos are also available after the conference for the further benefit of
-the community. All this is free of charge to viewers. \textbf{We thank our
+All videos are also archived after the conference for the long-term benefit of
+the community.  This media library already contains videos from every DebConf since 2005.  All this is free of charge to viewers. \textbf{We thank our
 Platinum and Gold sponsors by inserting their logos into the video streams.}
 
 \subsection{DebCamp: Team Sprints}
@@ -488,6 +488,8 @@
 
 \subsection{Sponsorship Levels}
 
+\vspace{-0.25cm}
+
 %TODO we should add a statement about ordering within each level so that all
 %sponsors know the rules from the start.
 \begin{table}[htb!]
@@ -511,7 +513,7 @@
 < \${2,000} & \${2,000} & \${5,000} & \${10,000} & \${20,000} \\
 Logo on sponsor webpage
 & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
-Access to swag bags
+Provide materials for conference bags
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
 Logo on t-shirts and conference bags &
 & & $\surd$ & $\surd$ & $\surd$ \\
@@ -529,6 +531,8 @@
 }
 \end{table}
 
+\vspace{-0.25cm}
+
 \begin{center}
 \includegraphics[width=\linewidth]{img/debconf-shirt.jpg}
 \footnotesize \emph{Participants with T-Shirts from past DebConfs}
@@ -542,7 +546,7 @@
 contributors, derivative developers, upstream authors and other community
 members.}
 
-As it has become traditional, there will be a job fair during DebConf. As a
+As has become our tradition, we will host a job fair during DebConf. As a
 Platinum, Gold, or Silver sponsor, you can use this opportunity to
 \textbf{present yourself as an employer and engage in direct dialog with
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Re: [Debconf-team] DC18 brochure & flyer final review

2017-10-14 Thread znoteer
> Le 14 octobre 2017 à 00:02, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 11:25:32AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) dijo [Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 09:44:29PM +0800]:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > The latest DC18 brochure & flyer are in [0]. Please help to review them
> > > so that we can start to look for sponsor.
> > 
> > Questions as a non-native English speaker:
> > 
> > - The caption on page 4's picture, shouldn't it be "...updating ON
> >   Debian status", "giving an update on Debian's status", or something
> >   like it? It's not as if Chris updated Debian's status by delivering
> >   a talk.
> 
> I guess so. But since I am not native English either, please correct me
> if we are wrong.

Yes.  As a native English speaker, I can confirm that Gunnar's grammatical 
suggestion is correct.  In a diff I've submitted, I've suggested a different 
way to fix the problem.

> 
> > - I would add a line in the same page: I think video _archiving_ is
> >   also a valuable item for our sponsors. So, the subtitle would be
> >   "Live World-wide Video Streaming and Archiving", adding to the first
> >   paragraph: "Videos are also archived for their long-term use,
> >   contributing to a media library that includes every DebConf edition
> >   since 2005".
> 
> I think the new sentence "Videos are also archived for ..." is roughly
> the same as the first sentence in second paragraph. Do we want to
> emphasize on "since 2005"?

I think what gwolf is trying to emphasize is that the archive is already quite 
extensive; it goes all the way back to 2005.

Please see the patch I've submitted.

> 
> > - I'm not sure I understand what the semantics of page 5 are supposed
> >   to mean. Why are all quotes partially indented?
> 
> I think only indented parts are quotes. The unindented part is not part
> of quote.

That was my understanding of it, too, ChangZhuo.  The indents look OK.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC18 brochure & flyer final review

2017-10-17 Thread znoteer
Hi Changzhuo,

Looks good.  That's a much better photo of Chris Lamb.  I fixed up the caption 
to the photo a little bit (diff attached to this email).  Other than that, both 
docs look fine to me.

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> Le 16 octobre 2017 à 21:57, "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)"  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> As discuss in IRC, brochure & flyer review deadline is Oct 18 2017 00:00 UTC.
> Please help to report any issue in brochure & flyer before the deadline.
> We will start to look for sponsor after the deadline.
> 
> 
> The following links are latest brochure & flyer.
> 
> https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf
> https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_flyer_en.pdf
> 
> 
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> http://czchen.info/
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> http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team--- brochure.en.tex	2017-10-17 16:56:12.930817808 -0400
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@@ -378,7 +378,7 @@
   \includegraphics[width=0.9\linewidth]{img/BSP_BOF.jpg}
   \label{fig:dc16-photo}
   \vfill
-  \footnotesize \emph{Chris Lamb, Debian Project Leader, hosting a Bug Squashing Party at DebConf17}
+  \footnotesize \emph{Chris Lamb, Debian Project Leader, hosting a Bug Squashing Parties}
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