Re: Stus-List Rigging Question

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Why is the mast moving enough to elongate the holes in your mast?

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C&C 39 TM

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Lee via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Tim, I have a 1987 35-3  thruhull#231 and my hooks have 2 3/8ths bolts
> thru the hooks and mast, and there are no sleeves inside the mast. I
> presume some earlier boats were made with single bolts and that was not
> enough.The nuts are only snugged up so as to prevent any motion. So get out
> your long 3/8ths bit and go to it!!! Good luck.  Lee
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 3:44 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Rigging Question
>
>  There was mention recently of 'hooks" that insert into the mast collar
> then bolt to the mast to hold the deck down when running rigging is under
> tension.
>
>  On my 35-3, the bolt through the mast has started to tear at the mast
> column and elongate the holes.  I could change the length of the "hooks"
> and create another hole somewhere else on the mast.  In that case, has
> anyone used a sleeve to stop the relatively small bolt sawing at the mast
> tube?  Does anyone have any other solutions out there (e.g. wire to the
> mast step each side)?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Tim
>  Mojito
>  C&C 35-3
>  Branford, CT
>
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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Per Garmin Tech Support and to  clarify Bill’s comment below.  Garmin’s units 
with Wifi built in do not require the $200 adaptor kit. 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

Bill,

 

Wifi is built into the Ray for the Ray phone/tablet apps.  Not for a laptop.

I agree the old Ray stuff was not user-friendly, but the current stuff really 
is!

Let us know what you select.

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Lots of great info, thanks to all for their input.

In reading the manuals many things become more clear.

Garmin is a little more forthright in acknowledging that you need to pony up 
another 200 for a wifi module, and 300 for radio, 

Had to dig a little deeper in the Zeus to find that out. I am puzzled why they 
don’t build wifi in, it is in my dashcam and that is tiny and cheap.

It looks to me that it IS built into the e7 Raymarine, can anyone clarify that?

On the pictures of the back of the Zeus 8 it has Simrad molded into the case, 
so I guess that is what it really is.

The reason I had not considered the Raymarine is that after going from a 
Garmin, which I consider very intuitive, the Ray was confounding, and poorly 
thought out, at least the RL-80.

They seem to be making much nicer stuff now, especially since Jeppeson  
acquired them.

JF, do you know if my Raymarine Autopilot will work seamlessly with the Zeus?  
It is 0183, the MKII around 10 years old.

And thanks to Fred for the Garmin offer.

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

My response to Chuck got scrubbed again.. I need to stop trying to send from 
the phone... 

Here goes:  

The laylines are not necessarily set at any particular angle.. That's the 
genius of it. It analyzes how you are pointing / running relative to apparent 
wind speed, current, tides, direction, wind shifts, and boat speed then does 
the trigonometry for the layline angle that gives the optimal tack / jibe point 
to max-out your vmg to waypoint.

During that race I followed it precisely, gained 2 tacks over 5 miles.. 

Sent from IBM Notes Traveler

Chuck S --- Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters --- 


From:

"Chuck S" 


To:

"Jean-Francois J Rivard" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 



Date:

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 2:01 PM


Subject:

Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters

 

  _  


That zeus sounds interesting.Would be nice to have the laylines.  Are they 
set at 45 dgrees?  Can you set them lower?

Chuck
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Re: Stus-List Rigging Question

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

The force of a couple of halyards should not be enough to elongate holes
in the mast.

When I replaced the mast step in Windburn I doubted I would get the height
exactly the same so I made up adjustable mast collar hold down clamps.
I can see the deck rises a bit when the shrouds and backstay are tightened,
so as a starting point I make the clamps snug with the standing rigging tight
and a 50% on backstay. 

I am using the clamps to only take the flex out for the halyards, not to try
to overcome the "set" caused by the standing rigging. The theory is that
wind gust will transfer force into the halyards, cause the deck to rise which
in turn simulates easing the halyard. Exactly what you do not want in a gust.

If the clamps are tight before the standing rigging is tensioned, and if there
is a slight bit of softness in the mast step I could see where a lot of force
is going to be transferred into the clamps. I don't think that was their 
original
design intent.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1

 
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:39:39 -0500 
From: Jack Fitzgerald  
To: Lee , "C&CList"  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigging Question 
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Why is the mast moving enough to elongate the holes in your mast? 
 
Best regards, 
Jack Fitzgerald 
HONEY 
C&C 39 TM 
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Re: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery

[D.J. Platt via CnC-List]

Don'r be so cheap Jay.  Buy a battery.


From: Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery


‎Today's discussion about a electrical batter connections and starting 
batteries reminded me that there is reference to a starting crank handle in my 
Atomic4 manual. I used to have a staring crank with my old Land Rover that was 
always entertaining to use, but surprisingly easy way to start the truck if the 
starter or battery failed.
Does anyone have experience with hand cranking the Atomic4?


Jay
C&C30-1 Lady Jane
Oakville, Ontario









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Re: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery

[Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List]

It's rarely the battery that's the issue, but often the user.
:)


From: D.J. Platt
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:19 AM
To: Kirkpatrick, Jay; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery


Don'r be so cheap Jay.  Buy a battery.

From: Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery

‎Today's discussion about a electrical batter connections and starting 
batteries reminded me that there is reference to a starting crank handle in my 
Atomic4 manual. I used to have a staring crank with my old Land Rover that was 
always entertaining to use, but surprisingly easy way to start the truck if the 
starter or battery failed.
Does anyone have experience with hand cranking the Atomic4?

Jay
C&C30-1 Lady Jane
Oakville, Ontario





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Re: Stus-List Rigging Question

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

Jack, Michael,

My first suspect is the mast step - which I agree is a much bigger issue
than the holes in the mast.

Thanks,

Tim

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Why is the mast moving enough to elongate the holes in your mast?
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY
> C&C 39 TM
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Lee via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim, I have a 1987 35-3  thruhull#231 and my hooks have 2 3/8ths bolts
>> thru the hooks and mast, and there are no sleeves inside the mast. I
>> presume some earlier boats were made with single bolts and that was not
>> enough.The nuts are only snugged up so as to prevent any motion. So get out
>> your long 3/8ths bit and go to it!!! Good luck.  Lee
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 3:44 pm
>> Subject: Stus-List Rigging Question
>>
>>  There was mention recently of 'hooks" that insert into the mast collar
>> then bolt to the mast to hold the deck down when running rigging is under
>> tension.
>>
>>  On my 35-3, the bolt through the mast has started to tear at the mast
>> column and elongate the holes.  I could change the length of the "hooks"
>> and create another hole somewhere else on the mast.  In that case, has
>> anyone used a sleeve to stop the relatively small bolt sawing at the mast
>> tube?  Does anyone have any other solutions out there (e.g. wire to the
>> mast step each side)?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Tim
>>  Mojito
>>  C&C 35-3
>>  Branford, CT
>>
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Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List]

Good morning all.

I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals
replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The
consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done
by the local hydraulic shop.

My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last
weekend to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from
another C&C in the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it
was still working fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.

Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were
afraid to break it? Hmmm?

Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace from
Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton as
well. Mailing it off is next option.

I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:

Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?Please
refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the
closest servicing agent.

but not the lists they refer too!

We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple
weeks as the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday
club racing and don't want to be out of commission too long!

Thank you for any advice!

Tracy Hirsh
Ogopogo
1989 C&C 37+  CB
Fairhope, Alabama
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

Tracy, your rigger should be able to hook a couple of turnbuckles together and 
get you out racing while you have your hydraulics repaired.  No adjustment, but 
you'll be on the water...

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT


> On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Good morning all.
> 
> I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals 
> replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The 
> consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done by 
> the local hydraulic shop.
> 
> My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last 
> weekend to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from 
> another C&C in the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it 
> was still working fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.
> 
> Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were 
> afraid to break it? Hmmm?
> 
> Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace from 
> Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton as 
> well. Mailing it off is next option.
> 
> I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:
> 
> Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?
> Please refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the 
> closest servicing agent.
> 
> but not the lists they refer too! 
> 
> We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple weeks 
> as the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday club 
> racing and don't want to be out of commission too long!
> 
> Thank you for any advice!
> 
> Tracy Hirsh
> Ogopogo
> 1989 C&C 37+  CB
> Fairhope, Alabama
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Tracy,

Lewmar sold Navtec.  Navtec.net probably won't be any more help.  Look
under Support/Agents for dealers.

Joel

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good morning all.
>
> I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals
> replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The
> consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done
> by the local hydraulic shop.
>
> My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last
> weekend to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from
> another C&C in the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it
> was still working fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.
>
> Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were
> afraid to break it? Hmmm?
>
> Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace
> from Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton
> as well. Mailing it off is next option.
>
> I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:
>
> Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?Please
> refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the
> closest servicing agent.
>
> but not the lists they refer too!
>
> We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple
> weeks as the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday
> club racing and don't want to be out of commission too long!
>
> Thank you for any advice!
>
> Tracy Hirsh
> Ogopogo
> 1989 C&C 37+  CB
> Fairhope, Alabama
>
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Suggest you try Yellow Pages? Check it out: 

http://www.yellowpages.com/search?search_terms=hydraulic+ram+service&geo_location_terms=Fairhope%2C+AL
 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: "Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List"  
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:10:40 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast 

Good morning all. 

I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals 
replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The 
consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done by 
the local hydraulic shop. 

My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last weekend 
to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from another C&C in 
the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it was still working 
fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid. 

Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were 
afraid to break it? Hmmm? 

Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace from 
Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton as well. 
Mailing it off is next option. 

I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this: 

Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging? 
Please refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the 
closest servicing agent. 

but not the lists they refer too! 

We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple weeks as 
the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday club racing 
and don't want to be out of commission too long! 

Thank you for any advice! 

Tracy Hirsh 
Ogopogo 
1989 C&C 37+ CB 
Fairhope, Alabama 

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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

If you cannot find a local shop and are willing to ship the pump to Seattle I 
recommend Lew Townsend  
(lewtowns...@comcast.net).

Lew rebuilt Calypso’s Sailtec backstay adjuster last year.  The price and 
service were both great.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Hirsh 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:11 AM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

Good morning all.

I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals 
replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The 
consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done by 
the local hydraulic shop.

My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last weekend 
to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from another C&C in 
the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it was still working 
fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.

Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were 
afraid to break it? Hmmm?

Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace from 
Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton as well. 
Mailing it off is next option.

I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:

Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?
Please refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the 
closest servicing agent.

but not the lists they refer too!

We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple weeks as 
the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday club racing 
and don't want to be out of commission too long!

Thank you for any advice!

Tracy Hirsh
Ogopogo
1989 C&C 37+  CB
Fairhope, Alabama
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

I sent my pump to West Marine and they handled the rebuild without a
problem. However, I purchased the B/Stay pump through them so maybe that is
why they were eager to assist.

Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C&C 39 TM



On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good morning all.
>
> I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals
> replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The
> consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done
> by the local hydraulic shop.
>
> My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last
> weekend to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from
> another C&C in the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it
> was still working fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.
>
> Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were
> afraid to break it? Hmmm?
>
> Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace
> from Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton
> as well. Mailing it off is next option.
>
> I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:
>
> Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?Please
> refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the
> closest servicing agent.
>
> but not the lists they refer too!
>
> We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple
> weeks as the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday
> club racing and don't want to be out of commission too long!
>
> Thank you for any advice!
>
> Tracy Hirsh
> Ogopogo
> 1989 C&C 37+  CB
> Fairhope, Alabama
>
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[chris hulett via CnC-List]

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
see them.
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Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the added 
hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older C&Cs 
came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster, no 
genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to cockpit and 
added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments

Mike

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have 
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the 
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck hardware 
and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added extra 
hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and lines , 
so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to see them.
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Stus-List Atomic 4 Hand crank

[Robert Gallagher via CnC-List]

Moyer Marine forums is the place to go for this info. One of the best
forums with loads of info to search and the most helpful members.  I'm a
yanmar owner now but I miss those forums :)

Rob
30MKII
HANUMAN
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Stus-List Boat Software

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

I'm looking for software that allows me to show the location of items stored on 
my boat. I downloaded it once, but can't seem to find it. Anyone know where I 
can find it? 

Alan Bergen 
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

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Re: Stus-List Boat Software

[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

This the one you are looking for:
http://www.cinnamonsoftware.com/whats_where.htm

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On 04/02/2015 4:13 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote:
I'm looking for software that allows me to show the location of items 
stored on my boat.  I downloaded it once, but can't seem to find it.  
Anyone know where I can find it?


Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the cabin 
top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change improved 
dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the traveller 
was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.

 

There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so ago.

 

Marek

(ex. C&C 24 Fennel)

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: February-04-15 14:28
To: chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

 

Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the added 
hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older C&Cs 
came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster, no 
genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to cockpit and 
added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments

 

Mike

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

 

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have 
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the 
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck hardware 
and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added extra 
hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and lines , 
so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to see them. 

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Yes I did take pictures of all rigging , i see what you are saying . Thank
you for your help.
I will look at the pictures from a week ago .

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the
> cabin top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That
> change improved dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained
> that the traveller was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.
>
>
>
> There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so
> ago.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> (ex. C&C 24 Fennel)
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On
> Behalf Of *Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* February-04-15 14:28
> *To:* chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C24
>
>
>
> Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the
> added hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the
> older C&Cs came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay
> adjuster, no genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run
> lines to cockpit and added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On
> Behalf Of *chris hulett via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C24
>
>
>
> I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
> striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
> fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
> hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
> extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
> lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
> see them.
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat Software

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Jeff,

That is too cool. Anyone know of a Mac version? 

I can’t stand Windows . . . (Link 
)


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 






> On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> This the one you are looking for:
> http://www.cinnamonsoftware.com/whats_where.htm 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
>Jeff Nelson
>Senior Manager
>Halifax, NS
>Ph: 902-880-8243
> On 04/02/2015 4:13 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote:
>> I'm looking for software that allows me to show the location of items stored 
>> on my boat.  I downloaded it once, but can't seem to find it.  Anyone know 
>> where I can find it?
>> 
>> Alan Bergen
>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Muir Caileag
> C&C 30
> Armdale Y.C.
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[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Chris

If you can post pics to a photo sharing location and then post the location on 
this list you will get a lot of helpful suggestions on what to keep and what to 
discard.  It seems you are already on the right track

Congratulations on the boat

Mike

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 4:28 PM
To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

Yes I did take pictures of all rigging , i see what you are saying . Thank you 
for your help.
I will look at the pictures from a week ago .

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the cabin 
top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change improved 
dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the traveller 
was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.

There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so ago.

Marek
(ex. C&C 24 Fennel)

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
 On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: February-04-15 14:28
To: chris hulett; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the added 
hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older C&Cs 
came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster, no 
genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to cockpit and 
added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments

Mike

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 On Behalf Of chris hulett via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have 
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the 
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck hardware 
and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added extra 
hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and lines , 
so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to see them.
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Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Hand crank

[chris hulett via CnC-List]

Thank you

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Moyer Marine forums is the place to go for this info. One of the best
> forums with loads of info to search and the most helpful members.  I'm a
> yanmar owner now but I miss those forums :)
>
> Rob
> 30MKII
> HANUMAN
>
>
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[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

My shins agree with the last comment. I have a C&C24, but don't know what
might be different from the original.
Halyards to winches on the cabin top at the cockpit, no genoa track (but
simple to adjust for whatever foresail I choose with blocks clipped in to 2"
or so increments in the aluminum toe-rail.
One improvement (I don't think they were original, but who knows?) are the
Barient self-tailing winches for the main sheets (nice improvement!).
Teak grab rail on the cabin, split back stay with adjuster, home-made boom
vang (not well thought out by previous owner). From the brochures on
Stu's site http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ it looks like, as Chris said, the
early models had halyards to mast base, not so on later models where they go
to winches on the cabin top, at the cockpit.
Ed

From:  Marek Dziedzic 
Date:  Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:21:48 -0500
To:  "'Hoyt, Mike'" , 
Subject:  Re: Stus-List C&C24

One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the
cabin top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change
improved dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the
traveller was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.
 
There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so
ago.
 
Marek
(ex. C&C 24 Fennel)
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt,
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: February-04-15 14:28
To: chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24
 
Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the
added hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older
C&Cs came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster,
no genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to
cockpit and added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments
 
Mike
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of chris
hulett via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C24
 
I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
see them. 


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Re: Stus-List Rigging Question

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

Agreed, more likely that the mast step is dropping, a common issue on c&cs.___

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[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

The only suggestion I would have is to consider genoa tracks. The reason is our 
C&C's are rather 'fat' boats and sheeting the genoa to the toe rail gives us a 
wider than optimum sheeting angle for the genoa. When I got my 30-1, I (had 
been to a couple of seminars and was loaded?? with knowledge) I calculated the 
sheeting angle for the genoa was about 12-13 degrees and my impressive 
knowledge suggested it should be around 10-11. Thus, tracks. This gives you the 
opportunity to unhook the genoa and run it back to the rail when you want the 
best angle for reaching, thus increasing the tasks you can get your faithful 
crew to do.

If you are cruising and are not dedicated to the highest possible pointing 
angle, then disregard the above. If not, then drill a bunch of leaky holes in 
your deck and have the drips come down inside...

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24


  My shins agree with the last comment. I have a C&C24, but don't know what 
might be different from the original.
  Halyards to winches on the cabin top at the cockpit, no genoa track (but 
simple to adjust for whatever foresail I choose with blocks clipped in to 2" or 
so increments in the aluminum toe-rail.
  One improvement (I don't think they were original, but who knows?) are the 
Barient self-tailing winches for the main sheets (nice improvement!).
  Teak grab rail on the cabin, split back stay with adjuster, home-made boom 
vang (not well thought out by previous owner). From the brochures on
  Stu's site http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ it looks like, as Chris said, the 
early models had halyards to mast base, not so on later models where they go to 
winches on the cabin top, at the cockpit.
  Ed


  From: Marek Dziedzic 
  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:21:48 -0500
  To: "'Hoyt, Mike'" , 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24



  One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the 
cabin top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change 
improved dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the 
traveller was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.



  There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so ago.



  Marek

  (ex. C&C 24 Fennel)



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
  Sent: February-04-15 14:28
  To: chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24



  Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the added 
hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older C&Cs 
came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster, no 
genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to cockpit and 
added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments



  Mike



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of chris 
hulett via CnC-List
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List C&C24



  I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have 
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the 
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck hardware 
and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added extra 
hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and lines , 
so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to see them. 



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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi Tracy,

 I have the guy for you:  Rick Zern http://zernrigging.com/  he's a Navtec
 Certified Rigger.

 Rick is awesome, he's detail oriented, methodical, and very knowledgeable.
 Many of the guys on my lake (Lake Lanier in  the Atlanta suburbs) fly him
 over to take care of their boats.  He's J-boat racer and is familiar with
 rod rigging too (Kind or a rarity these days)

 He's located in Pensacola, Phone Number 850.261.4129

 Tell him Francois from Atlanta / Lake Lanier sent you.

 Good Luck,

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Good point. I'm a cruiser, but when my friend pulls up next to me egging me
on to race, it would be nice to have
one more edge in my favor.
Ed

From:  Gary Nylander 
Date:  Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:22:54 -0500
To:  Ed Dooley , 
Subject:  Re: Stus-List C&C24

The only suggestion I would have is to consider genoa tracks. The reason is
our C&C's are rather 'fat' boats and sheeting the genoa to the toe rail
gives us a wider than optimum sheeting angle for the genoa. When I got my
30-1, I (had been to a couple of seminars and was loaded?? with knowledge) I
calculated the sheeting angle for the genoa was about 12-13 degrees and my
impressive knowledge suggested it should be around 10-11. Thus, tracks. This
gives you the opportunity to unhook the genoa and run it back to the rail
when you want the best angle for reaching, thus increasing the tasks you can
get your faithful crew to do.
 
If you are cruising and are not dedicated to the highest possible pointing
angle, then disregard the above. If not, then drill a bunch of leaky holes
in your deck and have the drips come down inside...
 
Gary
>  
> - Original Message -
>  
> From:  Ed Dooley  via CnC-List 
>  
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:54  PM
>  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24
>  
> 
>  
> My shins agree with the last comment. I have a C&C24, but don't know  what
> might be different from the original.
>  
> Halyards to winches on the cabin top at the cockpit, no genoa track (but
> simple to adjust for whatever foresail I choose with blocks clipped in to 2"
> or so increments in the aluminum toe-rail.
>  
> One improvement (I don't think they were original, but who knows?) are  the
> Barient self-tailing winches for the main sheets (nice improvement!).
>  
> Teak grab rail on the cabin, split back stay with adjuster, home-made  boom
> vang (not well thought out by previous owner). From the brochures on
>  
> Stu's site http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ it looks  like, as Chris said, the
> early models had halyards to mast base, not so on  later models where they go
> to winches on the cabin top, at the cockpit.
>  
> Ed
>  
> 
>  
> From: Marek Dziedzic 
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:21:48 -0500
> To: "'Hoyt, Mike'" , 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24
>  
> 
>  
>
>  
>  
> 
> One  of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the
> cabin top  (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change
> improved  dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the
> traveller  was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.
>  
>  
> There  was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so
> ago.
>  
>  
> Marek
>  
> (ex.  C&C 24 Fennel)
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]  On Behalf Of Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> Sent: February-04-15  14:28
> To: chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject:  Re: Stus-List C&C24
>  
>  
> Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?   Some of the added
> hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of  the older C&Cs
> came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no  backstay adjuster, no
> genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to  run lines to cockpit
> and added very necessary sail and rig trim  adjustments
>  
>  
> Mike
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]  On Behalf Of chris
> hulett via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday,  February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject:  Stus-List C&C24
>  
>  
> I have a C&C24 that I recently  purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
> striped everything off of the deck  and in the process of fixing all the
> fiberglass , when I've finished I will  start installing all the deck hardware
> and lines, it looks like over the years  the boat owners have added extra
> hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back  to original hardwsre and lines ,
> so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24  should rig I wold live to see them.
>  
>  
> 
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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The original main sheeting would not allow to trim the main for close hauled 
sailing. If you don't plan to move it to cockpit, think about running two 
separate sheets ( port and starboard). This would allow you to bring the boom 
to the centreline ( or even higher, if needed). Otherwise, it would always be a 
bit below.

Marek


Gary Nylander via CnC-List wrote:

The only suggestion I would have is to consider genoa tracks. The reason is our 
C&C's are rather 'fat' boats and sheeting the genoa to the toe rail gives us a 
wider than optimum sheeting angle for the genoa. When I got my 30-1, I (had 
been to a couple of seminars and was loaded?? with knowledge) I calculated the 
sheeting angle for the genoa was about 12-13 degrees and my impressive 
knowledge suggested it should be around 10-11. Thus, tracks. This gives you the 
opportunity to unhook the genoa and run it back to the rail when you want the 
best angle for reaching, thus increasing the tasks you can get your faithful 
crew to do.

If you are cruising and are not dedicated to the highest possible pointing 
angle, then disregard the above. If not, then drill a bunch of leaky holes in 
your deck and have the drips come down inside...

Gary
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24


  My shins agree with the last comment. I have a C&C24, but don't know what 
might be different from the original.
  Halyards to winches on the cabin top at the cockpit, no genoa track (but 
simple to adjust for whatever foresail I choose with blocks clipped in to 2" or 
so increments in the aluminum toe-rail.
  One improvement (I don't think they were original, but who knows?) are the 
Barient self-tailing winches for the main sheets (nice improvement!).
  Teak grab rail on the cabin, split back stay with adjuster, home-made boom 
vang (not well thought out by previous owner). From the brochures on
  Stu's site http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ it looks like, as Chris said, the 
early models had halyards to mast base, not so on later models where they go to 
winches on the cabin top, at the cockpit.
  Ed


  From: Marek Dziedzic 
  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:21:48 -0500
  To: "'Hoyt, Mike'" , 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24



  One of the big improvements was the change from the main sheeting to the 
cabin top (without the traveller) to a traveller in the cockpit. That change 
improved dramatically trimming of the main, even if some complained that the 
traveller was getting in the way of getting into the companion way.



  There was a good picture on the boat for sail in BC (?) just a week or so ago.



  Marek

  (ex. C&C 24 Fennel)



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
  Sent: February-04-15 14:28
  To: chris hulett; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24



  Did you take pictures prior to stripping off the hardware?  Some of the added 
hardware may be a big improvement on the original as many of the older C&Cs 
came with hayards led to mast base, no boom vang, no backstay adjuster, no 
genoa tracks etc and many boats have been upgraded to run lines to cockpit and 
added very necessary sail and rig trim adjustments



  Mike



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of chris 
hulett via CnC-List
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:20 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List C&C24



  I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have 
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the 
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck hardware 
and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added extra 
hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and lines , 
so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to see them.



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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Tracy, 
Chesapeake Bay Rigging, a Navtec Certified Dealer quoted me $800 to rebuild my 
ram in 2007. The local hydraulics guy charged me $25 to change the O rings in 
both the ram and the manual pump, and pressure tested both to 4000# for me. He 
also advised me to stop using the transmission fluid used by the PO and switch 
to 10 weight, non-detergent oil. Still tight after 7 years. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 4:30:38 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast 



Hi Tracy, 

I have the guy for you: Rick Zern http://zernrigging.com/ he's a Navtec 
Certified Rigger. 

Rick is awesome, he's detail oriented, methodical, and very knowledgeable. Many 
of the guys on my lake (Lake Lanier in the Atlanta suburbs) fly him over to 
take care of their boats. He's J-boat racer and is familiar with rod rigging 
too (Kind or a rarity these days) 

He's located in Pensacola, Phone Number 850.261.4129 

Tell him Francois from Atlanta / Lake Lanier sent you. 

Good Luck, 

Francois Rivard 
1990 34+ "Take Five" 
Lake Lanier, Georgia 
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Chuck,

I had my backstay adjuster serviced by CBR years ago.It was expensive and I was 
told that it would not pump to its original load.

I’d be very interested in the name of your local guy because it needs to be 
service again…

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Tracy,
> Chesapeake Bay Rigging, a Navtec Certified Dealer quoted me $800 to rebuild 
> my ram in 2007.  The local hydraulics guy charged me $25 to change the O 
> rings in both the ram and the manual pump, and pressure tested both to 4000# 
> for me.  He also advised me to stop using the transmission fluid used by the 
> PO and switch to 10 weight, non-detergent oil.  Still tight after 7 years.   
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List" 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 4:30:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast
> 
> Hi Tracy, 
> 
> I have the guy for you:  Rick Zern http://zernrigging.com/ 
>   he's a Navtec Certified Rigger.
> 
> Rick is awesome, he's detail oriented, methodical, and very knowledgeable.  
> Many of the guys on my lake (Lake Lanier in  the Atlanta suburbs) fly him 
> over to take care of their boats.  He's J-boat racer and is familiar with rod 
> rigging too (Kind or a rarity these days)  
> 
> He's located in Pensacola, Phone Number 850.261.4129
> 
> Tell him Francois from Atlanta / Lake Lanier sent you. 
> 
> Good Luck, 
> 
> Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, Georgia
> 
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Original is often not the best. I don't think the 24 ever came with a standard 
traveller, the main sheet came to a fixed eye in the cockpit floor. On my old 
24 which was a late model there were many modifications to enable better and 
more effective sail controls. 
All lines were led to cockpit and she also had :
Genoa tracks
Traveller full width across the cockpit (shin smasher)
Cunningham

That was the orange one posted up last week. 

Cheers
Paul 

Orange Crush
27MkII
Sidney, BC

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From: chris hulett via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:20:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
see them.


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Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Hand crank

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

Yes .. Moyer Marine

They’ll even sell you a crank ... 
http://www.moyermarine.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=action&category=MISC&keywords=all&template=Templates/B000_storebuilder.html
 and have a dimensional sketch so you can confirm there is space to turn it in 
your setup.

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

From: chris hulett via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:42 PM
To: Robert Gallagher ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Hand crank

Thank you

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Moyer Marine forums is the place to go for this info. One of the best forums 
with loads of info to search and the most helpful members.  I'm a yanmar owner 
now but I miss those forums :) 

  Rob
  30MKII
  HANUMAN





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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Actually, it seems that there were multiple versions of that arrangement.
The original C&C 24s had the main sheeting arranged at the cabin top in a
triangle (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/24foot/24b1pg01.htm).
However, a brochure for the 24(c) (at the Photoalbum), shows two different
arrangements (the triangle and the cockpit eye).

Many people who raced the C&C 24 installed the in-cockpit traveller to
improve the sheeting arrangement (with very little regard to crew's shins
and knees).

If you are looking for a good arrangement, a cabin top winch would be great
for hoisting sails (you would need a set of turning blocks around the mast
and a couple of cleats for each of the halyards).

My view is that the genoa tracks are secondary; a couple of fiddle blocks on
the toe rail works fine (you can move them up and down, as needed). 

I never found a need for self tailing winches. C&C 24 is the "human size";
you can adjust the sails by hand in 90% of the conditions. For the main -
4:1 sheeting was more than enough.

Marek

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Baker via CnC-List
Sent: February-04-15 18:44
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

Original is often not the best. I don't think the 24 ever came with a
standard traveller, the main sheet came to a fixed eye in the cockpit floor.
On my old 24 which was a late model there were many modifications to enable
better and more effective sail controls. 
All lines were led to cockpit and she also had :
Genoa tracks
Traveller full width across the cockpit (shin smasher) Cunningham

That was the orange one posted up last week. 

Cheers
Paul 

Orange Crush
27MkII
Sidney, BC

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From: chris hulett via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:20:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
see them.


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Re: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Ox has a V-drive so the A4 is installed "backwards". There is no way a
crank could be turned in the limited space at the back of the engine. Maybe
there's an adapter that will fit a right angle drill e.g.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/0721-21
similar to the connector on Moyer's A4 hand crank.
http://www.moyermarine.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=MISC_01_74
That could be useful if your starter has crapped out or the batteries are
low - and the right-angle drill has a good battery pack.
I've never been successful push-starting Ox.  :-)
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

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> ‎Today's discussion about a electrical batter connections and starting
> batteries reminded me that there is reference to a starting crank handle in
> my Atomic4 manual. I used to have a staring crank with my old Land Rover
> that was always entertaining to use, but surprisingly easy way to start the
> truck if the starter or battery failed.
> Does anyone have experience with hand cranking the Atomic4?
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Robbie Epstein via CnC-List]

I had my Navtec pump and back stay cylinder rebuilt at Florida Rigging in St 
Petersburg a couple of years ago.  I live in Fort Walton and couldn't find 
anyone close by to do it.  They were easy to work with, and did a great job.

Robbie
1980 C&C 40, Thorfinn
Fort Walton Beach, FL

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:28 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

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Re: Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery

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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>   It's rarely the battery that's the issue, but often the user.
>  :)
>
>
>
>
>  Don'r be so cheap Jay.  Buy a battery.
>
>  *From:* Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:34 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Hand crank vs Starter battery
>
>  ‎Today's discussion about a electrical batter connections and starting
> batteries reminded me that there is reference to a starting crank handle in
> my Atomic4 manual. I used to have a staring crank with my old Land Rover
> that was always entertaining to use, but surprisingly easy way to start the
> truck if the starter or battery failed.
> Does anyone have experience with hand cranking the Atomic4?
>
>  Jay
> C&C30-1 Lady Jane
> Oakville, Ontario
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Tracy,

 

I also have a leaky pump that needs work this winter.  My local rigger has 
offered to rebuild it, but said up front that it doesn’t always work on the 
older pumps.  He said I may have to buy a new panel, which could turn into 
major $$$.  I’m going to pull the panel and hope for the best.  The main shaft 
seal seems to be the only leak that I have.  I hope they can salvage the29 year 
old hydraulics.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

“Midnight Mistress”

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Hirsh 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:11 PM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

 

Good morning all.

 

I remember a few months back there was some discussion about getting seals 
replaced or other servicing work done on the Navtec hydraulic pump. The 
consensus seemed to be that it was much cheaper and faster to get it done by 
the local hydraulic shop.

 

My Navtec pump is leaking a little and my husband removed the unit last weekend 
to take it to a local place that we knew had worked on one from another C&C in 
the past. The idea was just to have the seals replaced as it was still working 
fine, just dripping hydraulic fluid.

 

Unfortunately, the shop said they couldn't take it apart because they were 
afraid to break it? Hmmm?

 

Does anyone on the Gulf Coast have a place they like? Prefer someplace from 
Mobile to New Orleans but I am willing to go Pensacola to Fort Walton as well. 
Mailing it off is next option.

 

I did look on the Lewmar website and that is a real maze! Found this:

 


Where can I find some one to service my hydraulics or rod rigging?


Please refer back to our agent list and the chart of service provided for the 
closest servicing agent.

 

but not the lists they refer too! 

 

We were hoping to get this little project completed in the next couple weeks as 
the next race is Mar 7! We are already missing the February Sunday club racing 
and don't want to be out of commission too long!

 

Thank you for any advice!

 

Tracy Hirsh

Ogopogo

1989 C&C 37+  CB

Fairhope, Alabama

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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List]

Thank you Robbie.
I got a suggestion from Francois Rivard to try Zern Rigging in Pensacola. I
will let you know how it goes - Rick Zern will be closer for you as well!
Tracy
On Feb 4, 2015 7:47 PM, "Robbie Epstein via CnC-List" 
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> I had my Navtec pump and back stay cylinder rebuilt at Florida Rigging in
> St Petersburg a couple of years ago.  I live in Fort Walton and couldn't
> find anyone close by to do it.  They were easy to work with, and did a
> great job.
>
> Robbie
> 1980 C&C 40, Thorfinn
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:28 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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My mirage 25 had a "split sheet" arrangement like the one shown in the photo. 
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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

I may live so far out "...in the sticks..." in Eastern NC that "...we have to 
import the sticks 😄..." but we have many hydraulic shops, mostly because we 
have a lot of farm and logging equipment in use.

I had my Navtec unit (after about 15 yrs in use) seals replaced, cylinders 
smoothed/rebored?, etc. for about $300 at one of these a few years ago.

Compared to the size and complexity of most equipment these shops deal with, my 
Navtec unit was a piece of cake, especially to the "...good old boys..." who 
are used to more complexity and quicker turn-arounds. (If you have contracted 
with an equipment lessor to get your crop planted, fertilized, harvested, etc. 
during a certain time interval, you or they cannot afford to wait for a 2-3 
week repair time!)

With appreciation to those "actual rocket scientists" on the list, this 
repair/rebuild does not even approach rocket science. It's a hydraulic cylinder 
for Heavens sake! The fact that it is used on a sailboat may inflate the repair 
cost (if it is repaired by a rigging shop) but at the end of the day it is a 
simple hydraulic cylinder.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb













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> On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Robbie. 
> I got a suggestion from Francois Rivard to try Zern Rigging in Pensacola. I 
> will let you know how it goes - Rick Zern will be closer for you as well!
> Tracy
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:47 PM, "Robbie Epstein via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> I had my Navtec pump and back stay cylinder rebuilt at Florida Rigging in St 
>> Petersburg a couple of years ago.  I live in Fort Walton and couldn't find 
>> anyone close by to do it.  They were easy to work with, and did a great job.
>> 
>> Robbie
>> 1980 C&C 40, Thorfinn
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> > On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:28 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast
>> 
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[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Look at the Mirage 24. It's essentially the same boat.

-Original Message-
From: "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎04 7:21 PM
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

Actually, it seems that there were multiple versions of that arrangement.
The original C&C 24s had the main sheeting arranged at the cabin top in a
triangle (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/24foot/24b1pg01.htm).
However, a brochure for the 24(c) (at the Photoalbum), shows two different
arrangements (the triangle and the cockpit eye).

Many people who raced the C&C 24 installed the in-cockpit traveller to
improve the sheeting arrangement (with very little regard to crew's shins
and knees).

If you are looking for a good arrangement, a cabin top winch would be great
for hoisting sails (you would need a set of turning blocks around the mast
and a couple of cleats for each of the halyards).

My view is that the genoa tracks are secondary; a couple of fiddle blocks on
the toe rail works fine (you can move them up and down, as needed). 

I never found a need for self tailing winches. C&C 24 is the "human size";
you can adjust the sails by hand in 90% of the conditions. For the main -
4:1 sheeting was more than enough.

Marek

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Baker via CnC-List
Sent: February-04-15 18:44
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C24

Original is often not the best. I don't think the 24 ever came with a
standard traveller, the main sheet came to a fixed eye in the cockpit floor.
On my old 24 which was a late model there were many modifications to enable
better and more effective sail controls. 
All lines were led to cockpit and she also had :
Genoa tracks
Traveller full width across the cockpit (shin smasher) Cunningham

That was the orange one posted up last week. 

Cheers
Paul 

Orange Crush
27MkII
Sidney, BC

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From: chris hulett via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:20:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Stus-List C&C24

I have a C&C24 that I recently purchased and it needs a lot of work.I have
striped everything off of the deck and in the process of fixing all the
fiberglass , when I've finished I will start installing all the deck
hardware and lines, it looks like over the years the boat owners have added
extra hardware . I'm wanting to get this boat back to original hardwsre and
lines , so if anyone has pictures of how a C&C 24 should rig I wold live to
see them.


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Re: Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Any industrial hydraulic shop can rebuild a navtec system, far cheaper than
the riggers. To the riggers, it's an exceptional service they don't do a
lot. To a hydraulic shop, it's same old.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 4 February 2015 at 18:15, Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List  wrote:

> Thank you Robbie.
> I got a suggestion from Francois Rivard to try Zern Rigging in Pensacola.
> I will let you know how it goes - Rick Zern will be closer for you as well!
> Tracy
> On Feb 4, 2015 7:47 PM, "Robbie Epstein via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I had my Navtec pump and back stay cylinder rebuilt at Florida Rigging in
>> St Petersburg a couple of years ago.  I live in Fort Walton and couldn't
>> find anyone close by to do it.  They were easy to work with, and did a
>> great job.
>>
>> Robbie
>> 1980 C&C 40, Thorfinn
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:28 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Stus-List Navtec pump service on Upper Gulf Coast
>>
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