Stus-List Fwd: lets get back to items of interest

[Persuasion]

HERE HERE!!!

and don't forget to change the subject line.  It's getting so bad lately
that I'm deleting more than I'm reading.

Mike

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jimmy Kelly 
Date: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM
Subject: Stus-List lets get back to items of interest
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com


lets get back to items of interest like C&C yachts & not a lot of chat
about vaguely related items like homemade autopilotsotherwise will be
even fewer participatesa forum is only as good as the number of people
who are involvednot 4or five people talking about saskatoon drinking 30
years agonot to pick on anyone but he is one of the least
offenders.AND  jim actually contributes much good &interesting
information cannot say list is worth reading last while..LETS GET
BACK TO YACHTING  AND  C&C CRAFT...JUST ONE OPINION   do not have a lot to
say as martin deyoung  c&c 43 seattle   usually  replys first & nearly
always on the mark...just my opinion...he martin is one larger boat
owner  where & why are the rest?...not particpating

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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Wally Bryant]

Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but 
went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside 
of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format 
just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the 
laptop for later reference.


Wal

Danny wrote:

I really think it is a far better way to go,



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Re: Stus-List lets get back to items of interest

[David Knecht]

I agree with Rich- I enjoy the humor and the sometimes distantly related discussions.  If the foredeck cow did not crop up periodically in CnC discussions, it would not be nearly as much fun to read (sorry- had to get the reference in early).  It helps to have messages organized as threaded so if you are not interested (rarely) in something, you can simply delete the whole thread.  DaveOn Jan 21, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Rich Knowles  wrote:I suggest we drop this topic. Some of us have a sense of humor, others don't. Some are interested in auto-pilots and some are not. We all have the best button on the keyboard "del" and can use it as appropriate. This is a great forum, it's the middle of winter, dang it, and most of what we discuss has been ragged over many times. Here's to freedom of yachting speech! RichOn Jan 21, 2014, at 19:44, John irvin  wrote:lets get back to items of interest like C&C yachts & not a lot of chat about vaguely related items like homemade___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Stevan Plavsa]

Email filters.

I work in IT and I hear this stuff about "flooding my inbox" all the time
and it's a simple matter of using email filters. If anyone needs some
guidance on how to set that up I'm happy to help. I have 2,669
*UNREAD*messages in my "C&C" folder and they don't interfere with a
thing. Anything
that hits my inbox (email from family and friends) I get notifications for
on my phone etc, but not the C&C list. The way I have it set up I have to
click into the folder to see what's going on, so I can ignore the list for
days if I'm busy. You can ignore the email you're not interested in very
easily and not have to resort to telling people to shut up. Not all of us
have sailed for 40 years, or had fathers, family or friends that introduced
us to sailing. Maybe you take for granted how much you learned throughout
your sailing career simply by "osmosis", from your community. Not all of us
are so lucky so we rely on the internet. This list is the sailing community
I didn't have growing up. Many thanks to those that contribute, I've
learned a lot on this list.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:52 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

> "new and fresh"  LOL
> I just realized, if we sign up, Stu has to approve us all.  If I can be of
> any assistance in any added work or effort on your part stu, just let me
> what I might be able to help you with.
>
> I really think it is a far better way to go,  I believe we can post photos
> and links and share info more easily on a bulletin board/forum type of
> format.
>
> Danny
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Curtis 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:38:26 -0500
>
> I often wondered why folks don't use that format. Its what'z new and
> fresh? �I even posted on there a few years back why no one used the site. I
> thought that the C&C community was non-existent. Then I got an e-mail that
> we are allover here.
> �
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
>
>> wow, �I'm just perusing the forum over at c&c photoalbum and is kind of
>> light on the postings. �we could really do all this bantering over there.
>> �It is just as easy as sending an email really and the amount of
>> conversation that goes on here would really bring that forum to life.
>> �
>> Anyway, just a suggestion that maybe we try and use the forum...
>> �
>> Anyone else think this might be worth a try?
>> �
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Eric Frank 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:47:32 -0500
>>
>> �
>> This was precisely my concern. �I have learned so many useful things on
>> this list-serve that I have no interest in causing a problem (case in
>> point, separating the prop shaft from the transmission coupler - would
>> never have figured out how to do this on my own), and my own sense is that
>> the folks interested in this new topic should interact in a different way.
>> Not that all the listings are very interesting to me - discussions of
>> racing handicaps and the like are boring to me, but certainly highly
>> relevant to a significant group of the listers. �So I just skip over them.
>> �But building DIY autopilots or autonomous model sailboats is quite
>> different.
>> �
>> So let me look into what it takes to set up a very simple site where the
>> interested folks can interact without using this list. �Please allow me a
>> couple of more posts to stay in touch with people who are potentially
>> interested about this while I set it up, but then we will move it.
>> �
>> Thanks,
>> �
>> Eric
>>
>> �
>>
>> From: "Pete Shelquist" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Stus-List Homebrew autopilot...let them talk
>> Message-ID: <000301cf16f7$12073870$3615a950$@shelqu...@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Bill, Others:
>> No one's being swamped and the list isn't being monopolized. �Also, this
>> conversation is as C&C specific as the recent conversation on Harken
>> roller
>> furler, adjustable car leads, AGM batteries and a host of other dribble.
>>
>> Obviously, there are a number of members on this list that are interested
>> and want to share information. �It, like most conversations, will probably
>> die off in the near future. �Personally, I understand less than half of
>> what
>> they're talking about, but I read and take in what I can and delete the
>> rest. �Others are welcome to do the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Bina
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:45 PM
>> To:�cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Homebrew autopilot
>>
>> Sorry, but I strongly disagree. One of the most popular reasons for people
>> to unsubscribe from this list over the years has been that the sheer
>> volume
>> of emails is too much to handle

Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Bill Bina]

Many of us work in IT, Steve. I have always had the  list go to its own 
folder. That means nothing in terms of how well the list itself works, 
or fails. Some of us, who have been on this list for a very long time, 
prefer that the list stay on topic, even if the topic is a little loose 
around the edges. The consensus seems to be that hosting a robotics 
project within this list is not appropriate. Several other venues that 
would work better for ALL concerned have been suggested. I'll add one 
more. There are thousands of abandoned usenet groups. Just take over a 
dead one in the alt.binaries hierarchy. It may have an odd name, but 
that doesn't really matter as long as those participating know what it 
is. You can then converse in threads, post photos and videos, and do 
pretty much whatever you wish without bothering anyone.


Bill Bina.

On 1/22/2014 9:32 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

Email filters.

I work in IT and I hear this stuff about "flooding my inbox" all the 
time and it's a simple matter of using email filters. If anyone needs 
some guidance on how to set that up I'm happy to help. I have 2,669 
*UNREAD* messages in my "C&C" folder and they don't interfere with a 
thing. Anything that hits my inbox (email from family and friends) I 
get notifications for on my phone etc, but not the C&C list. The way I 
have it set up I have to click into the folder to see what's going on, 
so I can ignore the list for days if I'm busy. You can ignore the 
email you're not interested in very easily and not have to resort to 
telling people to shut up. Not all of us have sailed for 40 years, or 
had fathers, family or friends that introduced us to sailing. Maybe 
you take for granted how much you learned throughout your sailing 
career simply by "osmosis", from your community. Not all of us are so 
lucky so we rely on the internet. This list is the sailing community I 
didn't have growing up. Many thanks to those that contribute, I've 
learned a lot on this list.


Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[djhaug...@juno.com]

didn't think of that Wal,  HM

well that alone makes it not viable...

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program...

Danny


-- Original Message --
From: Wally Bryant 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:19:09 +

Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but 
went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside 
of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format 
just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the 
laptop for later reference.

Wal

Danny wrote:
> I really think it is a far better way to go,


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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[djhaug...@juno.com]

I use an internet based email and I do filter my c&c email but, if I'm not 
logged in and I use my phone to access my email, they all go into the inbox 
anyway.  I end up having to do a search for Stus-List while logged in to the 
web version and then move them all

-- Original Message --
From: Stevan Plavsa 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:32:24 -0500


Email filters.  I work in IT and I hear this stuff about "flooding my inbox" 
all the time and it's a simple matter of using email filters. If anyone needs 
some guidance on how to set that up I'm happy to help. I have 2,669 UNREAD 
messages in my "C&C" folder and they don't interfere with a thing. Anything 
that hits my inbox (email from family and friends) I get notifications for on 
my phone etc, but not the C&C list. The way I have it set up I have to click 
into the folder to see what's going on, so I can ignore the list for days if 
I'm busy. You can ignore the email you're not interested in very easily and not 
have to resort to telling people to shut up. Not all of us have sailed for 40 
years, or had fathers, family or friends that introduced us to sailing. Maybe 
you take for granted how much you learned throughout your sailing career simply 
by "osmosis", from your community. Not all of us are so lucky so we rely on the 
internet. This list is the sailing community I didn't have growing up. Many 
thanks to those that contribute, I've learned a lot on this list. SteveSuhana, 
C&C 32Toronto

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:52 PM, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:
"new and fresh"  LOLI just realized, if we sign up, Stu has to approve us all.  
If I can be of any assistance in any added work or effort on your part stu, 
just let me what I might be able to help you with. I really think it is a far 
better way to go,  I believe we can post photos and links and share info more 
easily on a bulletin board/forum type of format. Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Curtis 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's 
C&C Photo Album Forum
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:38:26 -0500

I often wondered why folks don't use that format. Its what'z new and fresh? 
�I even posted on there a few years back why no one used the site. I 
thought that the C&C community was non-existent. Then I got an e-mail that we 
are allover here.�

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:
wow, �I'm just perusing the forum over at c&c photoalbum and is kind of 
light on the postings. �we could really do all this bantering over 
there. �It is just as easy as sending an email really and the amount of 
conversation that goes on here would really bring that forum to 
life.�Anyway, just a suggestion that maybe we try and use the 
forum...�Anyone else think this might be worth a try?�Danny

-- Original Message --
 From: Eric Frank 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:47:32 -0500

�This was precisely my concern. �I have learned so many useful 
things on this list-serve that I have no interest in causing a problem (case in 
point, separating the prop shaft from the transmission coupler - would never 
have figured out how to do this on my own), and my own sense is that the folks 
interested in this new topic should interact in a different way. Not that all 
the listings are very interesting to me - discussions of racing handicaps and 
the like are boring to me, but certainly highly relevant to a significant group 
of the listers. �So I just skip over them. �But building DIY 
autopilots or autonomous model sailboats is quite different.�So let me 
look into what it takes to set up a very simple site where the interested folks 
can interact without using this list. �Please allow me a couple of more 
posts to stay in touch with people who are potentially interested about this 
while I set it up, but then we will move it.�Thanks,�Eric�
From: "Pete Shelquist" To: 
Subject: Stus-List Homebrew autopilot...let them talk
Message-ID: <000301cf16f7$12073870$3615a950$@shelqu...@comcast.net>
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

Bill, Others:
No one's being swamped and the list isn't being monopolized. �Also, this
conversation is as C&C specific as the recent conversation on Harken roller
 furler, adjustable car leads, AGM batteries and a host of other dribble.

Obviously, there are a number of members on this list that are interested
and want to share information. �It, like most conversations, will 
probably
 die off in the near future. �Personally, I understand less than half of 
what
they're talking about, but I read and take in what I can and delete the
rest. �Others are welcome to do the same.



-Original Message-
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:45 PM
To:�cnc-list

Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[dwight]

So now we have started into a whole new non C&C related thread telling many
ways to do something that we apparently did not want done on this list in
the first place...crafty IT guys, aren't they

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: January 22, 2014 10:57 AM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

didn't think of that Wal,  HM

well that alone makes it not viable...

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program...

Danny


-- Original Message --
From: Wally Bryant 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:19:09 +

Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but 
went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside 
of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format 
just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the 
laptop for later reference.

Wal

Danny wrote:
> I really think it is a far better way to go,


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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Stevan Plavsa]

I can understand why the autopilot discussion can go elsewhere,  whatever
the consensus. There was some negativity that was posted about banter in
general which is what I was responding to. The "I work in IT" comment
wasn't intended to be condescending, I was trying to be helpful (in the
event that people aren't managing their inbox efficiently, maybe they want
some help). I was trying not to be negative.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:08 AM, dwight  wrote:

> So now we have started into a whole new non C&C related thread telling many
> ways to do something that we apparently did not want done on this list in
> the first place...crafty IT guys, aren't they
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> djhaug...@juno.com
> Sent: January 22, 2014 10:57 AM
> To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
>
> didn't think of that Wal,  HM
>
> well that alone makes it not viable...
>
> Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program...
>
> Danny
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Wally Bryant 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:19:09 +
>
> Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but
> went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside
> of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format
> just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the
> laptop for later reference.
>
> Wal
>
> Danny wrote:
> > I really think it is a far better way to go,
>
>
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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Colomba]

okidok, I just started a thread on the C&C forum so we can discuss 
there. Forum Engines&Electric, DIY autopilot.


 and to talk about C&C, yes, very interesting, on the other hand, our 
C&C is like a fridge in the moment, even too cold for beer ;-) and I 
tried to motivate my son to sand under water area, without success, so 
same procedure as last year ... in two or three weeks will start sanding 
by myselfe. That`s basicly what`s happen in the moment.


Peter

Am 22.01.2014 16:08, schrieb dwight:

So now we have started into a whole new non C&C related thread telling many
ways to do something that we apparently did not want done on this list in
the first place...crafty IT guys, aren't they

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: January 22, 2014 10:57 AM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

didn't think of that Wal,  HM

well that alone makes it not viable...

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program...

Danny


-- Original Message --
From: Wally Bryant 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:19:09 +

Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but
went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside
of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format
just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the
laptop for later reference.

Wal

Danny wrote:

I really think it is a far better way to go,


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Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Joel Aronson]

Steve,

FWIW I took it as an offer to help.  BTW, Gmail just launched a new inbox
with tabs that includes one for Forums to do what you do automatically.

In my opinion, Stu should make an executive decision about how to handle
the auto-pilot topic and the like.

Joel

Joel



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

> I can understand why the autopilot discussion can go elsewhere,  whatever
> the consensus. There was some negativity that was posted about banter in
> general which is what I was responding to. The "I work in IT" comment
> wasn't intended to be condescending, I was trying to be helpful (in the
> event that people aren't managing their inbox efficiently, maybe they want
> some help). I was trying not to be negative.
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:08 AM, dwight  wrote:
>
>> So now we have started into a whole new non C&C related thread telling
>> many
>> ways to do something that we apparently did not want done on this list in
>> the first place...crafty IT guys, aren't they
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>> djhaug...@juno.com
>> Sent: January 22, 2014 10:57 AM
>> To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album
>> Forum
>>
>> didn't think of that Wal,  HM
>>
>> well that alone makes it not viable...
>>
>> Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program...
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Wally Bryant 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot - Now Stu's C&C Photo Album
>> Forum
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:19:09 +
>>
>> Danny - I think we tried that when the list moved over from Sailnet, but
>> went back to the email format. It won't work for me, for sure.  Outside
>> of major cities, my internet is extremely slow and a web based format
>> just doesn't work.  It's also handy to save important information on the
>> laptop for later reference.
>>
>> Wal
>>
>> Danny wrote:
>> > I really think it is a far better way to go,
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Now Stu's C&C Photo Album Forum

[Wally Bryant]

you wrote:

So now we have started into a whole new non C&C related thread ...crafty 
IT guys, aren't they


Yeah.  30 years ago they called us MISManagers.  (mgmt info systems)


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Re: Stus-List Innovation contest

[bobmor99 .]

1) Batteries for night-vision flashlight.
2) Not an autopilot.  :-)

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> I just bought this item from Harbor Freight:  <
> http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-rod-keeper-46477.html>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Handrails on C&C 33

[Robert Boyer]

About 10 or 12 years ago, I changed all my teak handrails to stainless steel.  
I measured the locations of all the existing bolt holes and made the new 
handrails to suit the old bolt locations.  I used stainless steel pads on the 
rails where they fasten to the cabin top.  This project was the second best 
project I ever did to my boat--the foirst being the redesign of the windows.

That yearly maintenance spent on the handrails has completely gone away and 
allowed my time to be spent on more important maintenance projects.  At that 
time, I considered making the handrails from Starboard but I decided against it 
and I'm glad because Starboard still gets dirty--stainless steel doesn't.

I would highly recommend the stainless steel handrails--there are pics on my 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
 
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame

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Re: Stus-List Alternative Communication

[David Blair]

Stu, what happened to the PayPal button on the Photo Album?

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Alternative Communication

 

As most of you know, there is a Forum on the C&C Photo Album site.  This
might be the place to put the autohelm topic.

 

I can easily set up a new category and and the topic.

 

Stu

 

From: David   

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:43 PM

To: CNC CNC   

Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot

 

I am all in for an alternative/parallel communication link that takes
important, albeit focused, limited topics sidelined from from the e-mail
trail.   Worth an annual fee for me.

Where do I sign up.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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From: efran...@mac.com
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:47:32 -0500
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List homebrew autopilot

This was precisely my concern.  I have learned so many useful things on this
list-serve that I have no interest in causing a problem (case in point,
separating the prop shaft from the transmission coupler - would never have
figured out how to do this on my own), and my own sense is that the folks
interested in this new topic should interact in a different way. Not that
all the listings are very interesting to me - discussions of racing
handicaps and the like are boring to me, but certainly highly relevant to a
significant group of the listers.  So I just skip over them.  But building
DIY autopilots or autonomous model sailboats is quite different.

 

So let me look into what it takes to set up a very simple site where the
interested folks can interact without using this list.  Please allow me a
couple of more posts to stay in touch with people who are potentially
interested about this while I set it up, but then we will move it.

 

Thanks,

 

Eric

 

From: "Pete Shelquist" 

To: 
Subject: Stus-List Homebrew autopilot...let them talk
Message-ID: <000301cf16f7$12073870$3615a950$@shelqu...@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; 

  charset="us-ascii"

Bill, Others:
No one's being swamped and the list isn't being monopolized.  Also, this
conversation is as C&C specific as the recent conversation on Harken roller
furler, adjustable car leads, AGM batteries and a host of other dribble.

Obviously, there are a number of members on this list that are interested
and want to share information.  It, like most conversations, will probably
die off in the near future.  Personally, I understand less than half of what
they're talking about, but I read and take in what I can and delete the
rest.  Others are welcome to do the same.



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Homebrew autopilot

Sorry, but I strongly disagree. One of the most popular reasons for people
to unsubscribe from this list over the years has been that the sheer volume
of emails is too much to handle. To monopolize this C&C specific discussion
list with the nuts and bolts communications generated by such a (non-C&C
specific) project would be inappropriate, to put it as mildly as possible.
It needs to have it's own home. 
Swamping this list is not the answer.

Bill Bina

On 1/21/2014 4:02 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

I posit that a mailing list like this is also an archive. Judging by 

the traffic that this thread has already generated in one day I 

wouldn't assume that it's not an interesting topic to other listers or 

that those with little technical know-how either have nothing to 

contribute or nothing to learn. Nevermind the people that might be 

googling for this topic a year or two from now. I for one would like 

to see how this goes so my vote is keep the discussion here as long as 

it's practical. I understand that there might be a need to share files 

etc. Maybe you guys want to consider an open project. Just putting it 

out there.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 


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Re: Stus-List Handrails on C&C 33

[Aaron Rouhi]

I really like your SS port light frames! I redid my windows around 2 years ago 
and I rather not go through that process again! Who did you use to get them 
fabricated?

Cheers,
Aaron R.
1979 30-MK1
Annapolis, MD

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:21 AM, "Robert Boyer"  wrote:
> 
> About 10 or 12 years ago, I changed all my teak handrails to stainless steel. 
>  I measured the locations of all the existing bolt holes and made the new 
> handrails to suit the old bolt locations.  I used stainless steel pads on the 
> rails where they fasten to the cabin top.  This project was the second best 
> project I ever did to my boat--the foirst being the redesign of the windows.
> 
> That yearly maintenance spent on the handrails has completely gone away and 
> allowed my time to be spent on more important maintenance projects.  At that 
> time, I considered making the handrails from Starboard but I decided against 
> it and I'm glad because Starboard still gets dirty--stainless steel doesn't.
> 
> I would highly recommend the stainless steel handrails--there are pics on my 
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>  
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
> messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame
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Stus-List hose

[ahycrace]

yesterday I picked up a new mixing elbow assembly for our yanmar 3gm30. The old 
one was just about closed up with rusty carbon and crud I'm surprised the 
engine worked at all !  The next thing on the list is the flex hose that goes 
from the water muffler to the transom. I'm not to sure about trying to wiggle 
all the way back there you know it has to be a 2 way trip ! Has anyone been 
down this road before and if so any advice ? Liberty is a 38 foot Mark I and it 
looks as though the transom is about 42 feet in back of the rudder shaft.

   Gary Kolc

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Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a C&C 35 Mk3

[Doug Allardyce]

All,
I'm in the process of updating a 1985 C&C 35 MK 3. One of my projects is
installing a refrigeration unit. As I'm in the planning phase, I'm looking
to hear from anyone who has already done an installation. I would be
interested to know what unit was selected, and how it was installed. If
anyone has pictures that would be great

Doug Allardyce
1985 C&C 35 MK III "Bullet"
Detroit
_/)~~~_/) 



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Re: Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a C&C 35 Mk3

[Tim Goodyear]

Doug,

I installed an Isotherm 3751 ASU SP unit on Mojito in 2011 (link below).  I
tried to fit the compressor under the sink, but it was just too tight to
work in there and make the required connections, so it ended up in the port
cockpit locker on the bulkhead above the hot water heater.  Really easy
installation into the icebox etc.  I had to enlarge the sink drain through
hull (it's not cored there, so not too big a deal), and there were some
extra plumbing parts required to get it to fit together, but not a tough
install.  I added insulation to the top of the icebox, which made a huge
difference, but didn't do anything elsewhere.

The holding plate design means you can get it (and everything) else cold
while on shore power or motoring and then the variable speed compressor
keeps it topped up with lower current draw.

Tim

Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2276204|2276226|2276227&id=58806



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Doug Allardyce wrote:

> All,
> I'm in the process of updating a 1985 C&C 35 MK 3. One of my projects is
> installing a refrigeration unit. As I'm in the planning phase, I'm looking
> to hear from anyone who has already done an installation. I would be
> interested to know what unit was selected, and how it was installed. If
> anyone has pictures that would be great
>
> Doug Allardyce
> 1985 C&C 35 MK III "Bullet"
> Detroit
> _/)~~~_/) 
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List lets get back to items of interest

[Kevin Driscoll]

I hesitate to get into the fray here, but I would say that I highly value
the advice offered and gained through years of collective ownership of C&C
yachts. However, I find it unfortunately ironic that the format we are
using (i.e. listserv) to share and benefit from this valuable experience is
not easily searchable. This has the effect of creating "knowledge shares"
with extremely short half lives, to the point that they are disposable.

Given the volume of email (not a huge problem in my book, but a bit more
discipline would be nice), it is impossible to retrieve useful information
from the archives, which is why I would advocate a different tool, forum,
format, etc. especially one that could handle photographs...as they say a
thousand words, especially in technical matters. Also, one that is most
importantly, searchable.

That said, I am happy to be a relative noob on the list and very much
appreciate everyone's willingness to offer advice and valuable time. I also
appreciate the time and resources that go into managing the current system.

Best,
Kevin

Osprey
C&C 30 mkII
Portland, Or


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:23 AM, David Knecht wrote:

> I agree with Rich- I enjoy the humor and the sometimes distantly related
> discussions.  If the foredeck cow did not crop up periodically in CnC
> discussions, it would not be nearly as much fun to read (sorry- had to get
> the reference in early).  It helps to have messages organized as threaded
> so if you are not interested (rarely) in something, you can simply delete
> the whole thread.  Dave
>
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Rich Knowles  wrote:
>
> I suggest we drop this topic. Some of us have a sense of humor, others
> don't. Some are interested in auto-pilots and some are not. We all have the
> best button on the keyboard "del" and can use it as appropriate. This is a
> great forum, it's the middle of winter, dang it, and most of what we
> discuss has been ragged over many times.
>
> Here's to freedom of yachting speech!
>
> Rich
>
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 19:44, John irvin  wrote:
>
> lets get back to items of interest like C&C yachts & not a lot of chat
> about vaguely related items like homemade
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Re: Stus-List Handrails on C&C 33

[Nate Flesness]

which starboard color did you find best matched the C&C "smoke" gelcoat?

Nate
"Sarah Jean"
1980 30-1
Siskiwit Bay Marina
Lake Superior


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Robert Boyer  wrote:

> About 10 or 12 years ago, I changed all my teak handrails to stainless
> steel.  I measured the locations of all the existing bolt holes and made
> the new handrails to suit the old bolt locations.  I used stainless steel
> pads on the rails where they fasten to the cabin top.  This project was the
> second best project I ever did to my boat--the foirst being the redesign of
> the windows.
>
> That yearly maintenance spent on the handrails has completely gone away
> and allowed my time to be spent on more important maintenance projects.  At
> that time, I considered making the handrails from Starboard but I decided
> against it and I'm glad because Starboard still gets dirty--stainless steel
> doesn't.
>
> I would highly recommend the stainless steel handrails--there are pics on
> my blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
> messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame
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Re: Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a C&C 35 Mk3

[Joel Aronson]

Doug,

Did an Isotherm 2501 in my 35/3 last year.  Hardest part was running a wire
from the breaker to the lazarette for the compressor.  I made a shelf fo
the compressor out of plywood and epoxied it, only because I had some epoxy
laying around.  I drilled 2 holes in the back of the icebox for the copper
lines and used a can of foam from Home Depot to fill them.  Attached the
evaporater with spacers and screws.

Joel
35/3
The Office

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Doug Allardyce 
wrote:

> All,
> I'm in the process of updating a 1985 C&C 35 MK 3. One of my projects is
> installing a refrigeration unit. As I'm in the planning phase, I'm looking
> to hear from anyone who has already done an installation. I would be
> interested to know what unit was selected, and how it was installed. If
> anyone has pictures that would be great
>
> Doug Allardyce
> 1985 C&C 35 MK III "Bullet"
> Detroit
> _/)~~~_/) 
>
>
>
>

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Re: Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a C&C 35 Mk3

[Jim Watts]

Our Nova Kool installation is old, but the compressor is cunningly mounted
on top of the galley drawers up in the coaming. It's probably not the best
location in a warm climate...

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 22 January 2014 16:29, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Did an Isotherm 2501 in my 35/3 last year.  Hardest part was running a
> wire from the breaker to the lazarette for the compressor.  I made a shelf
> fo the compressor out of plywood and epoxied it, only because I had some
> epoxy laying around.  I drilled 2 holes in the back of the icebox for the
> copper lines and used a can of foam from Home Depot to fill them.  Attached
> the evaporater with spacers and screws.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> The Office
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Doug Allardyce 
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>> I'm in the process of updating a 1985 C&C 35 MK 3. One of my projects is
>> installing a refrigeration unit. As I'm in the planning phase, I'm looking
>> to hear from anyone who has already done an installation. I would be
>> interested to know what unit was selected, and how it was installed. If
>> anyone has pictures that would be great
>>
>> Doug Allardyce
>> 1985 C&C 35 MK III "Bullet"
>> Detroit
>> _/)~~~_/) 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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