Re: Stus-List Mass Maritime Auction

[Harry Hallgring]

Well, You write your bid on a form, put it in a sealed envelope, and the boat 
goes to the high bidder when they open the bids on the following Monday. 

Harry

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> On Nov 21, 2013, at 19:33, "phorvati ."  wrote:
> 
> Looks like replacement cost values.  How is that supposed to be an auction?
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Harry Hallgring"  wrote:
>> 
>> A few C&Cs being auctioned off at this weekend’s Mass. Maritime auction.
>>  
>> http://www.maritime.edu/apps/boats/
>>  
>>  
>> Harry
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Mass Maritime Auction

[Andrew Burton]

Then you pay for the boatand THEN you get out your wallet!
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
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Newport, RI 
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On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:22, Harry Hallgring  wrote:

> Well, You write your bid on a form, put it in a sealed envelope, and the boat 
> goes to the high bidder when they open the bids on the following Monday. 
> 
> Harry
> 
> Sent from my old iPhone
> 
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 19:33, "phorvati ."  wrote:
> 
>> Looks like replacement cost values.  How is that supposed to be an auction?
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Harry Hallgring"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few C&Cs being auctioned off at this weekend’s Mass. Maritime auction.
>>>  
>>> http://www.maritime.edu/apps/boats/
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Harry
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm

[allen]

Rob,

I have sailed Septima for nearly 20 years, in all kinds of wind and sea 
conditions, racing and cruising. Some lessons learned.
  a.. Sail her flat, no more than 18 degrees heel.  We have inclinometers on 
the back head and the helm and trimmers work to keep her in range. 
  b.. Check your sails.  If they're old, they're too baggy, you're gonna heel.  
We have low stretch racings sails.  Lowered our weight aloft a lot and they 
don't let the draft come aft as the wind picks up. 
  c.. Useful tools: hydraulic backstay adjuster, bridge deck mounted traveler 
with a windward adjustable car, cockpit adjustable genoa cars, powerful 
cunningham. 
  d.. Tune your rig with the mast raked 10 to 12 inches. 
  e.. You sail a 30-2, with its broad beam carried so far aft, differently than 
the older designs.  We actually steer Septima with the main because the main 
trimmer has the windward car and is sitting on the side deck in front of the 
helm where they can communicate easily. 
  f.. Our wheel in marked each side of TDC with a seam that indicates 4 degrees 
of rudder.  Helm puts the appropriate seam TDC, trimmers trim the sails, and, 
as the boat gathers speed along the course line, helm relays to main trimmer 
whether helm is light or heavy.  Main is retrimmed using the traveler only.  
Object: keep the foils moving thru the water at 4 degree incidence angle and 
keep heel 15 to 18 degrees. 
  g.. As wind speed picks up. use sail controls to keep things in balance.  
More backstay pressure, halyard tension, aft movement of genoa cars as needed 
for headsail; more cunningham, traveler to leeward, twist off the leach for the 
main.
All these actions keep the boat balanced, fast and stable.  I have never had 
the rudder stall.  Its always at 4 degrees incidence.  Can help to move crew 
weight aft as wind really picks up.  It's not rocket science.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima
Hampton, VA

Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.




From: Robert Gallagher 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm


My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather 
helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never.  I could bury the rail deep and 
just keep plowing along. 

My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much sail up 
and not enough tension on the backstay.  Too much heel and it gets scary. 

All that being said im still learning on my MKII






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Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.

[Dennis C.]

Good tip on the wheel marks.  We do similar on Touche'.  I have a 36 inch wheel 
that is used only for racing.  Normally, I use a 32.  We use tape, green for 
TDC, yellow for ~2 degrees, red for ~4.  When the main trimmer sees the red 
tape stripe at the top he eases the traveler.

A "visual" boat is easier.  We have a Navtec hydraulic backstay.  I taped a 
small batten to the cylinder so it extends upward several inches to the head of 
the ram.  On it are green, yellow, red and black tape marks.  We adjust the 
backstay to the desired headstay sag then remember the color where the head of 
the ram is.  Easier than looking at the pressure gauge.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




>
> From: allen 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
> 
>
>
>Rob,
> 
>I have sailed Septima for nearly 20 years, in 
all kinds of wind and sea conditions, racing and cruising. Some lessons 
learned.
>   * Sail her flat, no more than 18 degrees heel.  We  have inclinometers 
> on the back head and the helm and trimmers work to keep her  in range. 
>   * Check your sails.  If they're old, they're too  baggy, you're gonna 
> heel.  We have low stretch racings sails.   Lowered our weight aloft a lot 
> and they don't let the draft come aft  as the wind picks up. 
>   * Useful tools: hydraulic backstay adjuster, bridge deck  mounted 
> traveler with a windward adjustable car, cockpit adjustable genoa  cars, 
> powerful cunningham. 
>   * Tune your rig with the mast raked 10 to 12  inches. 
>   * You sail a 30-2, with its broad beam carried so far  aft, differently 
> than the older designs.  We actually steer Septima with the main because the 
> main trimmer has the windward  car and is sitting on the side deck in front 
> of the helm where they  can communicate easily. 
>   * Our wheel in marked each side of TDC with a seam that  indicates 4 
> degrees of rudder.  Helm puts the appropriate seam TDC,  trimmers trim the 
> sails, and, as the boat gathers speed along the course line,  helm relays to 
> main trimmer whether helm is light or heavy.  Main is  retrimmed using the 
> traveler only.  Object: keep the foils moving thru  the water at 4 degree 
> incidence angle and keep heel 15 to 18 degrees. 
>   * As wind speed picks up. use sail controls to keep  things in balance. 
>  More backstay pressure, halyard tension, aft movement  of genoa cars as 
> needed for headsail; more cunningham, traveler to  leeward, twist off the 
> leach for the main. 
>All these actions keep the boat balanced, fast and 
stable.  I have never had the rudder stall.  Its always at 4 degrees 
incidence.  Can help to move crew weight aft as wind really picks up.  
It's not rocket science.
> 
>Allen Miles
>S/V Septima
>Hampton, VA
> 
>Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.
> 
> 
>
>
>From: Robert Gallagher 
>Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. 
Weather helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never.  I could bury the 
rail deep and just keep plowing along. 
>My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to 
much sail up and not enough tension on the backstay.  Too much heel and it 
gets scary. 
>All that being said im still learning on my MKII
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Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.

[Wwadjourn]

Good tip.  How do you determine 2 and 4 degrees? Simple trick?
Bill Walker
Evening Star
CnC 36



-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 9:06 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.



Good tip on the wheel marks.  We do similar on Touche'.  I have a 36 inch wheel 
that is used only for racing.  Normally, I use a 32.  We use tape, green for 
TDC, yellow for ~2 degrees, red for ~4.  When the main trimmer sees the red 
tape stripe at the top he eases the traveler.

A "visual" boat is easier.  We have a Navtec hydraulic backstay.  I taped a 
small batten to the cylinder so it extends upward several inches to the head of 
the ram.  On it are green, yellow, red and black tape marks.  We adjust the 
backstay to the desired headstay sag then remember the color where the head of 
the ram is.  Easier than looking at the pressure gauge.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





  
 
 
 
   From: allen 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
  
 


  
Rob,
 
I have sailed Septima for nearly 20 years, in all kinds of wind and sea 
conditions, racing and cruising. Some lessons learned.
  
Sail her flat, no more than 18 degrees heel.  We   have inclinometers on the 
back head and the helm and trimmers work to keep her   in range.   
Check your sails.  If they're old, they're too   baggy, you're gonna heel.  We 
have low stretch racings sails.Lowered our weight aloft a lot and they 
don't let the draft come aft   as the wind picks up.   
Useful tools: hydraulic backstay adjuster, bridge deck   mounted traveler with 
a windward adjustable car, cockpit adjustable genoa   cars, powerful 
cunningham.   
Tune your rig with the mast raked 10 to 12   inches.   
You sail a 30-2, with its broad beam carried so far   aft, differently than the 
older designs.  We actually steer   Septima with the main because the main 
trimmer has the windward   car and is sitting on the side deck in front of the 
helm where they   can communicate easily.   
Our wheel in marked each side of TDC with a seam that   indicates 4 degrees of 
rudder.  Helm puts the appropriate seam TDC,   trimmers trim the sails, and, as 
the boat gathers speed along the course line,   helm relays to main trimmer 
whether helm is light or heavy.  Main is   retrimmed using the traveler only.  
Object: keep the foils moving thru   the water at 4 degree incidence angle and 
keep heel 15 to 18 degrees.   
As wind speed picks up. use sail controls to keep   things in balance.  More 
backstay pressure, halyard tension, aft movement   of genoa cars as needed for 
headsail; more cunningham, traveler to   leeward, twist off the leach for the 
main.

All these actions keep the boat balanced, fast and stable.  I have never had 
the rudder stall.  Its always at 4 degrees incidence.  Can help to move crew 
weight aft as wind really picks up.  It's not rocket science.
 
Allen Miles
S/V Septima
Hampton, VA
 
Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.
 
 



From: Robert Gallagher 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm



My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather 
helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never.  I could bury the rail deep and 
just keep plowing along. 
My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much sail up 
and not enough tension on the backstay.  Too much heel and it gets scary. 
All that being said im still learning on my MKII


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Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.

[allen]

Measured while on the hard from under the stern using simple algebra.

Allen


From: Wwadjourn 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:15 AM
To: capt...@yahoo.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.


Good tip.  How do you determine 2 and 4 degrees? Simple trick? 
Bill Walker
Evening Star
CnC 36



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From: Dennis C. 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 9:06 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.


Good tip on the wheel marks.  We do similar on Touche'.  I have a 36 inch wheel 
that is used only for racing.  Normally, I use a 32.  We use tape, green for 
TDC, yellow for ~2 degrees, red for ~4.  When the main trimmer sees the red 
tape stripe at the top he eases the traveler.

A "visual" boat is easier.  We have a Navtec hydraulic backstay.  I taped a 
small batten to the cylinder so it extends upward several inches to the head of 
the ram.  On it are green, yellow, red and black tape marks.  We adjust the 
backstay to the desired headstay sag then remember the color where the head of 
the ram is.  Easier than looking at the pressure gauge.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA






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  From: allen 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm



  Rob,

  I have sailed Septima for nearly 20 years, in all kinds of wind and sea 
conditions, racing and cruising. Some lessons learned.
a.. Sail her flat, no more than 18 degrees heel.  We have inclinometers on 
the back head and the helm and trimmers work to keep her in range. 
b.. Check your sails.  If they're old, they're too baggy, you're gonna 
heel.  We have low stretch racings sails.  Lowered our weight aloft a lot and 
they don't let the draft come aft as the wind picks up. 
c.. Useful tools: hydraulic backstay adjuster, bridge deck mounted traveler 
with a windward adjustable car, cockpit adjustable genoa cars, powerful 
cunningham. 
d.. Tune your rig with the mast raked 10 to 12 inches. 
e.. You sail a 30-2, with its broad beam carried so far aft, differently 
than the older designs.  We actually steer Septima with the main because the 
main trimmer has the windward car and is sitting on the side deck in front of 
the helm where they can communicate easily. 
f.. Our wheel in marked each side of TDC with a seam that indicates 4 
degrees of rudder.  Helm puts the appropriate seam TDC, trimmers trim the 
sails, and, as the boat gathers speed along the course line, helm relays to 
main trimmer whether helm is light or heavy.  Main is retrimmed using the 
traveler only.  Object: keep the foils moving thru the water at 4 degree 
incidence angle and keep heel 15 to 18 degrees. 
g.. As wind speed picks up. use sail controls to keep things in balance.  
More backstay pressure, halyard tension, aft movement of genoa cars as needed 
for headsail; more cunningham, traveler to leeward, twist off the leach for the 
main.
  All these actions keep the boat balanced, fast and stable.  I have never had 
the rudder stall.  Its always at 4 degrees incidence.  Can help to move crew 
weight aft as wind really picks up.  It's not rocket science.

  Allen Miles
  S/V Septima
  Hampton, VA

  Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.




  From: Robert Gallagher 
  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm


  My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather 
helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never.  I could bury the rail deep and 
just keep plowing along. 
  My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much sail 
up and not enough tension on the backstay.  Too much heel and it gets scary. 
  All that being said im still learning on my MKII

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Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.

[allen]

I use visuals on the genoa tracks and main sheets.  Never thought of the 
Navtec; I'll give it a try.  Thanks Dennis.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima  30-2 #167
Hampton, VA


From: Dennis C. 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.


Good tip on the wheel marks.  We do similar on Touche'.  I have a 36 inch wheel 
that is used only for racing.  Normally, I use a 32.  We use tape, green for 
TDC, yellow for ~2 degrees, red for ~4.  When the main trimmer sees the red 
tape stripe at the top he eases the traveler.

A "visual" boat is easier.  We have a Navtec hydraulic backstay.  I taped a 
small batten to the cylinder so it extends upward several inches to the head of 
the ram.  On it are green, yellow, red and black tape marks.  We adjust the 
backstay to the desired headstay sag then remember the color where the head of 
the ram is.  Easier than looking at the pressure gauge.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA






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  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm



  Rob,

  I have sailed Septima for nearly 20 years, in all kinds of wind and sea 
conditions, racing and cruising. Some lessons learned.
a.. Sail her flat, no more than 18 degrees heel.  We have inclinometers on 
the back head and the helm and trimmers work to keep her in range. 
b.. Check your sails.  If they're old, they're too baggy, you're gonna 
heel.  We have low stretch racings sails.  Lowered our weight aloft a lot and 
they don't let the draft come aft as the wind picks up. 
c.. Useful tools: hydraulic backstay adjuster, bridge deck mounted traveler 
with a windward adjustable car, cockpit adjustable genoa cars, powerful 
cunningham. 
d.. Tune your rig with the mast raked 10 to 12 inches. 
e.. You sail a 30-2, with its broad beam carried so far aft, differently 
than the older designs.  We actually steer Septima with the main because the 
main trimmer has the windward car and is sitting on the side deck in front of 
the helm where they can communicate easily. 
f.. Our wheel in marked each side of TDC with a seam that indicates 4 
degrees of rudder.  Helm puts the appropriate seam TDC, trimmers trim the 
sails, and, as the boat gathers speed along the course line, helm relays to 
main trimmer whether helm is light or heavy.  Main is retrimmed using the 
traveler only.  Object: keep the foils moving thru the water at 4 degree 
incidence angle and keep heel 15 to 18 degrees. 
g.. As wind speed picks up. use sail controls to keep things in balance.  
More backstay pressure, halyard tension, aft movement of genoa cars as needed 
for headsail; more cunningham, traveler to leeward, twist off the leach for the 
main.
  All these actions keep the boat balanced, fast and stable.  I have never had 
the rudder stall.  Its always at 4 degrees incidence.  Can help to move crew 
weight aft as wind really picks up.  It's not rocket science.

  Allen Miles
  S/V Septima
  Hampton, VA

  Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.




  From: Robert Gallagher 
  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm


  My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather 
helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never.  I could bury the rail deep and 
just keep plowing along. 
  My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much sail 
up and not enough tension on the backstay.  Too much heel and it gets scary. 
  All that being said im still learning on my MKII

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Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

[Della Barba, Joe]

Kent Island :)

Joe Della Barba
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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

Joe, where are you? I have to go from St. Michaels to Annapolis tomorrow..

Gary
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

I'll take it!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina

THANKS!!!

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 AM
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Subject: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

I have a Datamarine Link 5100 system - appears to be complete. Came from my 
SO's late sister - must have been taken out before they upgraded and embarked 
on a voyage south.

Datamarine 5100 control head, Display unit with digital speed and depth, analog 
wind; DX111 depth, SX 120 speed, wind speed/direction mast top unit, coax 
cable, through hull speed and depth sensors

Yours for the cost of shipping, I have no need.

Gary Nylander
Maryland


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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: Stus-List Muffler

John:

I replaced the SS muffler this past Spring.don't remember the exact 
measurements put similar to yours.

I replaced it with a Vernalift resin mufflerslightly bigger (2" higher) 
muffler but with the same 2" inlet and 1 1/2" outlet.  I will try to find my 
receipt which will have the part # if that helps you.  Bottom line, Vernalift 
makes a resin muffler with a 1/1/2" outlet.  I didn't want to get into adding 
hose adapters as my exhaust hoes was replaced last year and it is 1 1/2".  
There are no back pressure issues to worry about with the 1 1/2" outlet with 
these small marine diesel engines.

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.








On 2013/11/20 9:00 AM, John and Maryann Read wrote:
The stainless muffler has finally given up the ghost.  It is 6 ¼ round, 2 inch 
side inlet and 1 ½ inch top outlet, 9 inches high and the base is 7 inches 
square.  Any suggested sources??  Vernalift by Centek Industries makes a close 
copy but the outlet is 2 inch.  On a related note, any thoughts on why the 
outlet is smaller than the inlet and does this create any backpressure issues?? 
 The engine outlet is 2 inch.  On the other hand, this set up has worked well 
for 30 years so it can't be all bad  :)
TIA
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
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Re: Stus-List Mass Maritime Auction

[Harry Hallgring]

...and the wallet stays out!

Harry

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> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Burton  wrote:
> 
> Then you pay for the boatand THEN you get out your wallet!
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:22, Harry Hallgring  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, You write your bid on a form, put it in a sealed envelope, and the 
>> boat goes to the high bidder when they open the bids on the following 
>> Monday. 
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> Sent from my old iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 19:33, "phorvati ."  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks like replacement cost values.  How is that supposed to be an auction?
>>> 
 On Nov 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Harry Hallgring"  wrote:
 
 A few C&Cs being auctioned off at this weekend’s Mass. Maritime auction.
  
 http://www.maritime.edu/apps/boats/
  
  
 Harry
 
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Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

[J.P.]

If you all can’t get it hooked up to transfer, I’ll send my shipping billing
number and I’ll take the stuff… otherwise… have fun with it Joe..

 

JP

 

ja...@jpiworldwide.com  

 

 

 

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Nylander
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

 

Joe, where are you? I have to go from St. Michaels to Annapolis
tomorrow..

 

Gary

- Original Message - 

From: Della Barba, Joe   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

 

I’ll take it!

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

 

THANKS!!!

 

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Nylander
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Stus-List Datamarine stuff FREE

 

I have a Datamarine Link 5100 system - appears to be complete. Came from my
SO's late sister - must have been taken out before they upgraded and
embarked on a voyage south.

 

Datamarine 5100 control head, Display unit with digital speed and depth,
analog wind; DX111 depth, SX 120 speed, wind speed/direction mast top unit,
coax cable, through hull speed and depth sensors

 

Yours for the cost of shipping, I have no need.

 

Gary Nylander

Maryland

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Robert Abbott   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:13 AM

Subject: Stus-List Muffler

 

John:

I replaced the SS muffler this past Spring.don't remember the exact
measurements put similar to yours.  

I replaced it with a Vernalift resin mufflerslightly bigger (2" higher)
muffler but with the same 2" inlet and 1 1/2" outlet.  I will try to find my
receipt which will have the part # if that helps you.  Bottom line,
Vernalift makes a resin muffler with a 1/1/2" outlet.  I didn't want to get
into adding hose adapters as my exhaust hoes was replaced last year and it
is 1 1/2".  There are no back pressure issues to worry about with the 1 1/2"
outlet with these small marine diesel engines. 

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.








On 2013/11/20 9:00 AM, John and Maryann Read wrote:

The stainless muffler has finally given up the ghost.  It is 6 ¼ round, 2
inch side inlet and 1 ½ inch top outlet, 9 inches high and the base is 7
inches square.  Any suggested sources??  Vernalift by Centek Industries
makes a close copy but the outlet is 2 inch.  On a related note, any
thoughts on why the outlet is smaller than the inlet and does this create
any backpressure issues??  The engine outlet is 2 inch.  On the other hand,
this set up has worked well for 30 years so it can’t be all bad  :)

TIA

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT





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Stus-List Fwd: sailing saralane

[Richard N. Bush]

For any listers who have centerboards, this edition of Sailing Saralane has the 
best photo of the inside of a centerboard cavity that I have have ever seen... 


Richard
1987 33-II

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
Louisville, Kentucky 40220 
502-584-7255



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From: sailing saralane 
To: bushmark4 
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:11 pm
Subject: sailing saralane





sailing saralane 





Round Trip 
Posted: 21 Nov 2013 01:35 PM PST

We're back. In Antigua - and now in the water as well. Saralane was launched on 
Tuesday and since I opted to leave the blog on lovely Barbuda back in August, 
this 'round trip' blog covers our haul and launch. It's cheating on the blog a 
bit, but then I'll consider us up to date!



First coming out of the water.







Skip on deck as the straps go under Saralane





Ray guides us in the slipway and watches as we come out; Danny gives Saralane's 
bottom a good powerwashing





The powerwasher at Jolly Harbor needs a little TLC








Skip cleans off the centerboard - which we were SURE we'd fix this time out


Ever since the centerboard pennant snapped back in the Bahamas we've been 
working on a fix for it. We really thought we had it figured out when we got 
hauled in August, but it turned out that the new swage fitting on the new wire 
that we brought with us from the states was too bulky to fit. Foiled again. 







Ray helps a sad captain Skip tuck the centerboard away until we come back and 
try again in November


There are lots of other jobs to do before leaving the boat though and Skip got 
help from some of the guys who work in the machine shop in the yard. We pulled 
the prop and replaced the cutlass bearing. Fixed the muffler and exhaust elbow. 
Cleaned, scraped, polished etc etc... 






Pulling the prop and replacing the cutlass bearing. Align part A with slot 
H.





We give our extra fuel to a local fisherman before we leave


We hauled out late this year and were pretty much the only ones in the yard 
during our stay there at the end of August. Back here now in November there's 
more activity and we've connected with a few new people who are working on 
their boats and getting ready to go back in the water.


Fast forward through September and October... and our view from the deck hasn't 
changed yet! 






Boatyard living means climbing ladders. 


We dig out our respirators, gloves and protective gear and paint the bottom (no 
photos since we're both too hot and dirty to care much about taking pictures at 
this point). We tape off, sand and repaint the boot stripes too and Saralane is 
almost ready to go. 






New bottom paint and new stripes 

Almost ready to go. Almost. The centerboard pennant still needs to be replaced 
and we'll see if we have what we need.






We need THIS (out of focus) swage fitting on this new cable





New fitting on cable, fed into the opening at the top of the centerboard

After a few tense moments when the new fitting seemed too big for the opening 
(again!) Skip managed to get it in place and attached. Here's a shot from 
farther back for a little perspective. The rusty line is the messenger we fed 
down from on deck and taped onto the new cable in order to pull it up into 
position. The shiny cable is our new centerboard pennant!









The yard let us hang in the travel lift over lunch so we'd have time to fix the 
pennant and paint the board and the patches left unpainted where the stands 
were against the hull. 









Watching paint dry


Skip rigged a piece of Spectra that connects on either side of the keel and 
hangs on the ends of bolts he put in each side. This will help support the 
centerboard when it's in the up position and will take some of the pressure off 
the deck and hopefully alleviate some of the wear and tear on the new pennant.






Spectra loop hanging off one side of the keel


I know this photo could have been taken coming out of the water or going in 
so you'll have to take my word for it that we're being launched in this shot.






Going back in!


We motored over to the marina and took advantage of their complimentary slip 
for one night. We cleaned out our water tanks (those of you who slept through 
the centerboard fix can rejoin me now that we're back in the water) scrubbed 
the decks, pumped up John H and got him back in the water and called it a day. 


Before leaving the dock the next day, I went up the mast to reattach our 
running back stays and lazy jacks. We put the main back on, did some 
provisioning and a few other odds and ends and cleared out of the marina. 






Me, trying not to drop any tools from up here


Our first night anchored out was pretty nice... and we're glad to be back on 
board.





We're anchored just out in Jolly Harbor where we'll finish up a few things. The 
deck side of the centerboard fix is yet to be done so stayed tuned for that! I 
need to wean myself off the wifi too. Seems a fe

Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

[Jim Reinardy]

All,

A friend of mine has been looking for a boat for some time.  He wants a true 
racer/cruiser that will compete around the buoys but still allow for comfort at 
the dock and on cruises.  He has looked at a lot of boats, but not much has 
ticked all his boxes at a reasonable price point.  He is currently considering 
a couple of C&C's a 32 and 33-2.  I told him that I would tap the vast wisdom 
of the list for advantages and disadvantages of these two models, things to 
watch for in his inspections and any red flags on these particular boats.   
Thanks in advance for any help you are willing to provide.

The 32 is here:

http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-32/139147851

This is the 33-2

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C-%26-C-33-MK-II-2566873/Chicago/IL/United-States#.Uo16Z9KsiSo

Thanks again,

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

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Re: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

[Derek Leck]

33-ll – make sure you check the keel sump.  Otherwise I love mine.




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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:34 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

All,

A friend of mine has been looking for a boat for some time.  He wants a true 
racer/cruiser that will compete around the buoys but still allow for comfort at 
the dock and on cruises.  He has looked at a lot of boats, but not much has 
ticked all his boxes at a reasonable price point.  He is currently considering 
a couple of C&C's a 32 and 33-2.  I told him that I would tap the vast wisdom 
of the list for advantages and disadvantages of these two models, things to 
watch for in his inspections and any red flags on these particular boats.   
Thanks in advance for any help you are willing to provide.

The 32 is here:

http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-32/139147851


This is the 33-2


http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C-%26-C-33-MK-II-2566873/Chicago/IL/United-States#.Uo16Z9KsiSo

Thanks again,

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

[Jim Reinardy]

Kevin,

I think you have some pretty good advice already.  If you have the fresh water 
cooled engine, I would change out the anti-freeze if you are not sure when it 
was last done and also check out the fuel filters.  My 30-2 has a water 
separator just off the fuel tank and another fuel filter on the engine.  Both 
of these have replaceable elements.

We bought our 1988 30-2 a few seasons ago for reasons very similar to yours, 
moving up from a Catalina 27.  We have found the boat to be a pretty 
competitive racer and very comfortable cruiser.  In our experience, it's not 
quite as tender as we were led to believe, but definitely different than a 
30-1.  Our previous owner believed that the 150 genoa was too much sail and did 
not use it at all, but we have found that it works fine for us up to about 14 
knots or so.  We did our last race of the season in late September with winds 
in the 20's and 4-6 foot waves on Lake Michigan using a 100% jib and full main 
and had a ball with the boat.  It does hate to heel though.  One of the other 
posts talked about keeping the heel under 20 degrees and I would second that 
advice.

Once you gain some experience with your new boat, I would love to compare notes!

Regards,

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

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> On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:20 AM, "dwight veinot"  wrote:
> 
> You got a nice looking boat and a very spacious 30 footer...happy sailing to 
> both of you
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> Alianna 
> C&C 35 MKII
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Kevin Driscoll  
>> wrote:
>> My wife and I took ownership this past Saturday of a C&C 30mkII, 1989. We 
>> are super happy to have "Osprey" and believe that it is the perfect size for 
>> us here in Portlandia, Oregon. Much of our sailing is on the Columbia River 
>> and so we inevitably do much more sail handling than the average sailor. So 
>> we were looking for a boat that is big enough to be comfortable on and not 
>> so big that it increases expense and "work" when out on the water. We plan 
>> to join the fray racing around the buoys this spring. The C&C 30 mkII is 
>> that boat for us.
>> 
>> Alas, to the point. Since I am a new owner I am interested in suggestions 
>> from the list as to maintenance, fluid changes, etc that I might perform to 
>> get off on the right track. So far I am thinking Oil Change, Transmission 
>> Oil Change, flush water tanks? Previous owner was a very occasional 
>> user, so I am bit concerned about Diesel bugs as well. 
>> 
>> It is in very good shape, but not everything is perfect. The Volvo Ardic 
>> fires up (with quite a bit of exhaust smoke) and blows heat for about 10-15 
>> minutes, but then seems to shut off and stay off. Additionally the Yanmar 
>> 2GM starts with the addition of some throttle, but blows dark smoke for 
>> about 10 seconds or so. Smoke goes away fairly quickly. I was told could be 
>> injectors? 2200hrs on the engine.
>> 
>> I have been following the forum and site for a while and now that we own 
>> her, I am happy to be a part of the C&C community. Any and all advice 
>> welcome...especially from other 30mkII owners out there.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kevin
>> s/v Osprey
>> C&C30mkII
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Re: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

[Jim Watts]

All things being equal (in good shape, no structural problems) I would take
the 33-2. At that price, I'm having a hard time believing the 33 is in good
shape, though.


On 22 November 2013 10:45, Derek Leck  wrote:

>  33-ll – make sure you check the keel sump.  Otherwise I love mine.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> * *
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Reinardy
> *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 1:34 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> A friend of mine has been looking for a boat for some time.  He wants a
> true racer/cruiser that will compete around the buoys but still allow for
> comfort at the dock and on cruises.  He has looked at a lot of boats, but
> not much has ticked all his boxes at a reasonable price point.  He is
> currently considering a couple of C&C's a 32 and 33-2.  I told him that I
> would tap the vast wisdom of the list for advantages and disadvantages of
> these two models, things to watch for in his inspections and any red flags
> on these particular boats.   Thanks in advance for any help you are willing
> to provide.
>
>
>
> The 32 is here:
>
>
>
> http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-32/139147851
>
>
>
> This is the 33-2
>
>
>
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C-%26-C-33-MK-II-2566873/Chicago/IL/United-States#.Uo16Z9KsiSo
>
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
>
> Jim Reinardy
>
> C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
>
> Milwaukee, WI
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

[Joel Aronson]

I've never sailed either.  The difference in interior space is amazing!
 Nav station and oven v. no nav and alcohol stove.
Big rating difference:  159 v 132.

However, on any boat of our vintage, the most important thing though is
condition. Pick the nicer of the 2, make an offer subject to survey.  If
they are equal, but the bigger boat.  I've never heard anyone complain they
had too much cabin space in a boat in that size range.

My $.02

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Jim Reinardy  wrote:

> All,
>
> A friend of mine has been looking for a boat for some time.  He wants a
> true racer/cruiser that will compete around the buoys but still allow for
> comfort at the dock and on cruises.  He has looked at a lot of boats, but
> not much has ticked all his boxes at a reasonable price point.  He is
> currently considering a couple of C&C's a 32 and 33-2.  I told him that I
> would tap the vast wisdom of the list for advantages and disadvantages of
> these two models, things to watch for in his inspections and any red flags
> on these particular boats.   Thanks in advance for any help you are willing
> to provide.
>
> The 32 is here:
>
> http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-32/139147851
>
> This is the 33-2
>
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C-%26-C-33-MK-II-2566873/Chicago/IL/United-States#.Uo16Z9KsiSo
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jim Reinardy
> C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
> Milwaukee, WI
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice

[John irvin]

33-LL has s wonderful sweet spot. Nicest boat I have ever helmed.

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Boat Shopping Advice





All,




A friend of mine has been looking for a boat for some time.  He wants a true 
racer/cruiser that will compete around the buoys but still allow for comfort at 
the dock and on cruises.  He has looked at a lot of boats, but not much has 
ticked all his boxes at a reasonable price point.  He is currently considering 
a couple of C&C's a 32 and 33-2.  I told him that I would tap the vast wisdom 
of the list for advantages and disadvantages of these two models, things to 
watch for in his inspections and any red flags on these particular boats.   
Thanks in advance for any help you are willing to provide.




The 32 is here:




http://www.boats.com/boat-details/C%26c-32/139147851




This is the 33-2




http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C-%26-C-33-MK-II-2566873/Chicago/IL/United-States#.Uo16Z9KsiSo




Thanks again,




Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 "Firewater"

Milwaukee, WI

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Stus-List Free items (but I can't absorb the shipping)

[A. F. Cano]

Hi,

Some small items that were not on the boat when Sandy took it:

2 original C&C ceiling light fixtures (1975 vintage).
1 stainless steel deck ring with 4 3/8" hole, new, never installed.
  (this is what goes over nicro vents)
1 Nicro vent propeller and some mounting hardware.
1 mounting ring (4 5/8" ID), my guess is the outside one since it's
  slightly discolored (for the nicro vent)
2 1.5" fittings (Nauta brand) for a Nauta flexible water tank (new).
1 5/8" fitting (Nauta brand) for a Nauta flexible water tank (new).
1 grey plastic bracket (3.5" opening) for a radio or gps unit.
PVC plumbing pieces for a SeaLand holding tank pump, all new.
  90 degree elbow with with 2 hose (1.5") attachments
  90 degree elbow with 2 screw fittings
  2 screw to hose adapters (for 1.5" hose)
  1 adapter: 1.5" hose on one side, 1" hose on the other.
1 6" grey screw-on deck plate (new)
15" of 1" radiator hose with a garden hose attachment I used to flush
the engine.
2 short pieces (3.5" useable) of sealand 1.5" hose.  These were actually
vibration dampening mounts for the sealand pump (pre-drilled) but there
is 3.5" of useable hose suitable for, say, connecting fittings.  Of
course new and never used.  I would never think of offering old smelly
hose!

When I think of all the effort I put into upgrading the boat...
Ouch!

Augustine


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Re: Stus-List Free items (but I can't absorb the shipping)

[Jim Watts]

Ouch indeed. That really sucks. Thanks for being generous with your extras.


On 22 November 2013 14:02, A. F. Cano  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Some small items that were not on the boat when Sandy took it:
>
> 2 original C&C ceiling light fixtures (1975 vintage).
> 1 stainless steel deck ring with 4 3/8" hole, new, never installed.
>   (this is what goes over nicro vents)
> 1 Nicro vent propeller and some mounting hardware.
> 1 mounting ring (4 5/8" ID), my guess is the outside one since it's
>   slightly discolored (for the nicro vent)
> 2 1.5" fittings (Nauta brand) for a Nauta flexible water tank (new).
> 1 5/8" fitting (Nauta brand) for a Nauta flexible water tank (new).
> 1 grey plastic bracket (3.5" opening) for a radio or gps unit.
> PVC plumbing pieces for a SeaLand holding tank pump, all new.
>   90 degree elbow with with 2 hose (1.5") attachments
>   90 degree elbow with 2 screw fittings
>   2 screw to hose adapters (for 1.5" hose)
>   1 adapter: 1.5" hose on one side, 1" hose on the other.
> 1 6" grey screw-on deck plate (new)
> 15" of 1" radiator hose with a garden hose attachment I used to flush
> the engine.
> 2 short pieces (3.5" useable) of sealand 1.5" hose.  These were actually
> vibration dampening mounts for the sealand pump (pre-drilled) but there
> is 3.5" of useable hose suitable for, say, connecting fittings.  Of
> course new and never used.  I would never think of offering old smelly
> hose!
>
> When I think of all the effort I put into upgrading the boat...
> Ouch!
>
> Augustine
>
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C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Redford's movie....

[Wally Bryant]

First off, I haven't seen the movie and have no clue.  I doubt it will 
make the theaters here, but if it does they'll rename it "El Hombre 
Viejo Y La Mar."  


I do question your wife's comment that maybe he was out there sailing 
alone because he couldn't deal with his life's problems. Could be right, 
who knows, I haven't seen the movie.
Humph. I like sailing alone.  Um, here's an original quote:  'It's kind 
of a special feeling, when you're out on the sea alone...' 


But I would say that an experienced singlehander actually thinks 10 
steps ahead before making a move.  And they tend to have well maintained 
boats because they know that if everything goes south other folks will 
sniff and say 'Oh.  A singlehander.  If he'd had crew he wouldn't have 
lost the boat.'


Wal
(currently going to finish fixing dinner.)


you wrote:

But my wife had a little different take on things. Since it seemed to be pretty 
clear from the opening of the movie that he was a bit of wreck in real life it 
might stand to reason that what you saw in his responses to problems may have 
been how he approached many of his problems in life and maybe why he was out 
there alone.



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Re: Stus-List Redford's movie....

[Wally Bryant]

Now, if he'd had a pregnant wife on board, and delivered the baby while 
the boat was sinking, it would be a true 70's disaster movie.



I wrote:

First off, I haven't seen the movie and have no clue.



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Re: Stus-List Redford's movie....

[Jim Watts]

With an airliner full of Peruvian soccer players crashing just off the
quarter, ginormous sharks shredding the boat, and he can't light his crack
pipe.

Oh, sorry, that's the Rob Ford story, I got confused.


On 22 November 2013 18:12, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Now, if he'd had a pregnant wife on board, and delivered the baby while
> the boat was sinking, it would be a true 70's disaster movie.
>
>
>
> I wrote:
>
>> First off, I haven't seen the movie and have no clue.
>>
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