Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Pat Nevitt]

Whether or not the traveler line is continuous or open ended at the sides is 
obviously matter of personal preference. On the 29-2 I had I started out with a 
continuous line. The problem with it was that the cockpit on that boat is small 
and the crew frequently got caught up on the line and tripped it thereby 
dumping the main. Additionally because the line lay close to the track and the 
Chanel for that track is so narrow in relation to the traveler car, the line 
could get jammed in between the car and the channel on occasion.  When we made 
it open on both sides we eliminated most of those issues. The only problem was 
having to go to the low side to release it on tacks. . 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Ian Matthew  wrote:

> Yes it is - makes it easy to release the leeward traveler line when you tack.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 14, 2013, Joel Aronson wrote:
>> Is the traveler control line a continuous line?
>> 
>> Joel Aronson
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Ian Matthew  wrote:
>> 
>>> Tim & John,
>>>  
>>> Here is my setup.  Only drawback is that it doesn't work well 
>>> single-handed.  But as I only race fully crewed, it's not a problem for me.
>>>  
>>> Here are the photo's (Don't look at the varnish on the companionway - job 
>>> for a little later when it gets a bit warmer and less likely to rain!)
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.13.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.35.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.45.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.52.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.59.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.11.jpg
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.16.jpg
>>>  
>>> Yes - there is a lot of mainsheet, but again it isn't much of a problem.
>>>  
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>>> Ian:
>>> I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased 
>>> with the present traveler system on my 29-2.
>>> 
>>> John McLaughlin
>>> "Falcon"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ian Matthew 
>>> To: cnc-list 
>>> Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> 
>>> I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for 
>>> you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car 
>>> (making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new 
>>> one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)
>>> 
>>> I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the photos.  
>>> This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in sailing 
>>> San Francisco Bay.
>>> 
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 
>>> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can 
>>> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I 
>>> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system 
>>> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often 
>>> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[dwight veinot]

I have open ended traveler car control lines that go through turning blocks
to cam cleats on the bulkhead directly above the traveler.  That is a
reasonable compromise for the way I sail the boat because actually I do very
little traveler adjusting under sail.  I find that the boat works quite well
with the car centered and sheet just about close hauled with the 2 upper
tell tales streaming straight back when sailing upwind.I do however drop the
traveler car to leeward in prolonged wind above about 17 apparent which is
also when the clew outhaul, Cunningham and mainsheet get tensioned to
flatten the main.  Using that up to 21 apparent is reasonably fast and
comfortable and a furled headsail is a benefit.

 

I know some owners have used turning blocks to bring the traveler controls
further aft to the helm.maybe that would be convenient.IMHO the Harken
windward sheeting traveler is the best 

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

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Nevitt
Sent: March 15, 2013 10:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

 

Whether or not the traveler line is continuous or open ended at the sides is
obviously matter of personal preference. On the 29-2 I had I started out
with a continuous line. The problem with it was that the cockpit on that
boat is small and the crew frequently got caught up on the line and tripped
it thereby dumping the main. Additionally because the line lay close to the
track and the Chanel for that track is so narrow in relation to the traveler
car, the line could get jammed in between the car and the channel on
occasion.  When we made it open on both sides we eliminated most of those
issues. The only problem was having to go to the low side to release it on
tacks. . 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Ian Matthew  wrote:

Yes it is - makes it easy to release the leeward traveler line when you
tack.

 

Ian



On Thursday, March 14, 2013, Joel Aronson wrote:

Is the traveler control line a continuous line?

Joel Aronson

 


On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Ian Matthew  wrote:

Tim & John,

 

Here is my setup.  Only drawback is that it doesn't work well single-handed.
But as I only race fully crewed, it's not a problem for me.

 

Here are the photo's (Don't look at the varnish on the companionway - job
for a little later when it gets a bit warmer and less likely to rain!)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.49.13.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.49.35.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.49.45.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.49.52.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.49.59.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.50.11.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14
%2012.50.16.jpg

 

Yes - there is a lot of mainsheet, but again it isn't much of a problem.

 

Ian



 

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:

Ian: 

I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased with
the present traveler system on my 29-2.

 

John McLaughlin

"Falcon"



-Original Message-
From: Ian Matthew 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

Tim, 

 

I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for you.
I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car (making
sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new one - I
bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)

 

I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the photos.
This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in sailing
San Francisco Bay.

 

Ian



On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:

Hi,

 

   I'm in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 29'.
Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can others
provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I viewed the
Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system (hexratchet at
the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often and have a lot
of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.

 



-- 
Ian Matthew
"Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
San Francisco Bay

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Della Barba, Joe]

Someone got over the reserve.

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Dave Godwin]

I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind you

Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

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> Someone got over the reserve.
>  
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Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Edd Schillay]

All,

Just a quick request for people's opinions . . . 

As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring 
projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's navy, 
red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different color 
(like three red stripes).

See: 
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
 

Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts? 



All the best,

Edd


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Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,
Guessing it won't be this weekend!
Weren't they red on Kirk's Enterprise?  Personally, I would not add more
red to the hull, but the only "right" answer is the one you like.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> All,
>
> Just a quick request for people's opinions . . .
>
> As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring
> projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's
> navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different
> color (like three red stripes).
>
> See:
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
>
>
> Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts?
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
>
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Andrew Burton]

The way it is looks like a stretched "C" flag, so in keeping with being a
C&C. One thing I've seen done is to fade the stripes into the topsides. So
the bottom stripe would be Royal blue, the next Marlin, and the top Sky
Blue. (looking at the awl grip color chart). That's a neat look, I think.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> All,
>
> Just a quick request for people's opinions . . .
>
> As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring
> projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's
> navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different
> color (like three red stripes).
>
> See:
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
>
>
> Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts?
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Della Barba, Joe]

I just found out I actually COULD by the boat.temptation strikes!
(my credit union will go as old as 1979)
Arg – if my wife finds out I am done for. She wants a diesel boat SO 
bad.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina

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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind you

Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

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On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:39, "Della Barba, Joe" 
mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> wrote:
Someone got over the reserve.

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Joel Aronson]

Joe,

Do it for her!

Joel


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Della Barba, Joe
wrote:

> I just found out I actually COULD by the boat.temptation strikes!
>
> (my credit union will go as old as 1979)
>
> Arg – if my wife finds out I am done for. She wants a diesel boat
> SO bad.
>
> ** **
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave
> Godwin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 10:46 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
>
> ** **
>
> I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind
> you
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> 1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:39, "Della Barba, Joe" 
> wrote:
>
> Someone got over the reserve.
>
>  
>
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Stus-List Boot Stripe

[Sam Salter]

not sure if it helps, but here's a pic of a C&C 115 with three red boot stripes 
sitting in Victoria Harbour.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nva2akwr21ct2q5/Photo%202006-10-10%2010%2022%2058%20AM.jpg



Sam :-)

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Ghost Lake  Alberta


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Re: Stus-List boat insurance

[Tim Goodyear]

Having just today received approval for a $12k pedestal replacement on
Mojito (building collapse during that NE snow storm), I can thoroughly
recommend Boat US...

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 PM, David Knecht wrote:

> I have gotten responses from BoatUS and Gowrie and both include coverage
> to have the boat pulled in the event of a hurricane and both cover
> hurricane damage.  Gowrie was significantly cheaper!  Dave
>
>  On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote:
>
>  For basic coastal coverage,  BoatUS or any of the others mentioned
> will do fine.
>
> For more esoteric coverage (offshore,  hurricane season, charter,
> funky cruising grounds) you may need more of a specialist.  I've
> kicked around a few but have landed with IMIS (they advertise in all
> the sailing mags). No claims experience yet (touch wood), but they can
> get you the cover you need.
>
> Cheers
> Colin
>
>
> On 3/14/13, Indigo  wrote:
>
> ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for
> the
>
> one claim I made
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> Indigo 35iii - Southport
>
>
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>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen  wrote:
>
>
>  Call BoatUS.  They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you can
>
>  become a member and get their insurance.  Personally, I wouldn't get
>
>  insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance.  You want
>
>  to make sure you have adequate coverage:  hull, liability, fuel spill,
>
>  etc.  If you shop for the lowest price, you might also get the lowest
>
>  service when you need them.
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Ken Heaton]

Edd,

I like your classic look.  But here is a different look for an example.
 Ours is a little different, just two stripes, same colour and narrower gap
between:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qm1gbnTLHw8/UNz-CuzjfiI/MpM/AJ_NT1wg_bk/s1152/IMG_2574%2520Salazar.jpg

Ken H.


On 15 March 2013 11:57, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> All,
>
> Just a quick request for people's opinions . . .
>
> As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring
> projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's
> navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different
> color (like three red stripes).
>
> See:
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
>
>
> Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts?
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
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> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Rich Knowles]

Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-03-15, at 12:17, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:

I just found out I actually COULD by the boat.temptation strikes!
(my credit union will go as old as 1979)
Arg – if my wife finds out I am done for. She wants a diesel boat SO 
bad.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
 
I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind you
 
Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

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On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:39, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:

Someone got over the reserve.
 
Joe Della Barba
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Richard N. Bush]

Someone on this list once used ta quote form Mark Twain: I have it on my wall 
and read it daily: 
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you 
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away 
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. 
Discover.” - Mark Twain

I would venture that this includes the purchase of boats

Richard
1987 33-II
 
 

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Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
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From: Rich Knowles 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Fri, Mar 15, 2013 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay


Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 


Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax


On 2013-03-15, at 12:17, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:



I just found out I actually COULD by the boat.temptation strikes!
(my credit union will go as old as 1979)
Arg – if my wife finds out I am done for. She wants a diesel boat SO 
bad.
 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

 

I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind you

 

Dave

1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

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On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:39, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:


Someone got over the reserve.
 
Joe Della Barba


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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Jim Watts]

Life Caulk does not stick to Starboard. Almost nothing sticks to Starboard,
since it is a high-density polyethylene. The only caulk I have found that
does stick is System Three SA-2100, which is a water-based 2-part
polyurethane, and the Starboard needs to be corona-treated before
application, then left for a month until the 2100 sets up firm. Even then
you can pry it off with a bit of determination.


On 14 March 2013 22:27, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> The caulk sticks to Starboard. Silicone does not.
>
> Joel Aronson
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:38 AM, "Dennis C."  wrote:
>
> Life Calk is polysulfide.  LifeSeal is a polyurethane/silicone blend.  For
> what to use where visit and bookmark this page:
>
>  < http://boatlife.com/media/img/Boatlife-Sealant-Chart-20121220.jpg>
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Ronald B. Frerker 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
>
> What's the difference between Lifeseal & Lifecaulk?
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30
> STL
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/14/13, Chuck S * wrote:
>
>
> From: Chuck S 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:32 PM
>
> I started using Lifecaulk about 10 years ago when I first bought our
> boat.  Tried 4200 3 years ago when I added jam cleats and found the
> adhesion much stronger.  Life caulk takes days longer to cure.  I was
> working alone and was so careful to place the 4200 under the screw head and
> under the cleat base and in the chamfered hole.  The next day I went
> sailing and after returning to the dock, noticed I hadn't placed nuts on
> the screws.  The 4200 held it tight to the deck.  This camcleat had four
> bolts through the deck, w no nuts.  Guess the bolts took the shear force
> and the 4200 kept it together enough to stay put.  I added the fender
> washers & nuts and had my son hold the bolt still, while I tightened the
> aircraft nuts from underneath.  No leaks.
>
> After a few months I tried to squeeze caulk out of a partially used tube
> of 4200.   I found it had cured in the nozzle but was still pliable in the
> tube.  I drilled the nozzle open with a 1/4" drill and found it squeezed
> out just fine.   Good stuff, though expensive.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Dave Godwin]

Joe, imagine yourself and your wife on that boat in the Bahamas.  When it's 
cold here. And for very little money...

Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

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On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:25, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
> boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
> 
> On 2013-03-15, at 12:17, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:
> 
> I just found out I actually COULD by the boat.temptation strikes!
> (my credit union will go as old as 1979)
> Arg – if my wife finds out I am done for. She wants a diesel boat SO 
> bad.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:46 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
>  
> I think someone is going be happy with that boat. Just a feeling, mind you
>  
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:39, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:
> 
> Someone got over the reserve.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
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Stus-List Bob Perry review of the C&C 101 in Sailing

[Rick Brass]

Following is a link to Bob Perry’s review of the C&C 101. He has some ince 
things to say about our brand – especially the older 39 – and seems to like the 
new boat,

 



http://www.sailingmagazine.net/boats/3-perry-on-design/1348-cac-101.html


 


 


 


 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 


 


 

 

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Frederick G Street]

And then we can officially welcome you into the secret fraternity of LF38 
owners.

Oh -- did I say that out loud?   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
> boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Henry Reeve]

Does he get the secret decoder ring, or just a bucket of varnish for the wood 
toerail?
 
 

Henry Reeve
Lone Star
'83 LF 38
Vancouver, BC
~ ~~_/) _/) ~~ _/) ~ _/)_/)_/)~~

"Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; ... then, I account it 
high time to get to sea as soon as I can."
 


 From: Frederick G Street 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:09:10 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd:   C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
  

And then we can officially welcome you into the secret fraternity of LF38 
owners.

Oh -- did I say that out loud?   :^)


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(  

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 
>
>
>Rich Knowles
>Indigo. LF38
>Halifax

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Della Barba, Joe]

The owner says he took the cylinder head off to check the engine for wear. How 
hard is that on a LF38?
I can do it in about 45 minute son my boat if nothing is stuck, but I have 
great engine access to the top. I actually REMOVED my engine in an hour flat 
once.

Joe Della Barba

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

And then we can officially welcome you into the secret fraternity of LF38 
owners.

Oh -- did I say that out loud?   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Rich Knowles 
mailto:r...@sailpower.ca>> wrote:


Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer.

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Rich Knowles]

That is a few hours work and I don't know why he'd do that? Engine access is 
not the greatest as its all the way under the cockpit sole with a vee-drive at 
the bow end. Access is not too bad from the starboard side when you locker 
dive, or from inside the aft cabin with the companionway out. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-03-15, at 15:19, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:

The owner says he took the cylinder head off to check the engine for wear. How 
hard is that on a LF38?
I can do it in about 45 minute son my boat if nothing is stuck, but I have 
great engine access to the top. I actually REMOVED my engine in an hour flat 
once.
 
Joe Della Barba
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
 
And then we can officially welcome you into the secret fraternity of LF38 
owners.
 
Oh -- did I say that out loud?   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
 
On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:


Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a great 
boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
 
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Joel Aronson]

Joe,

The Defender sale is next week - just in time to outfit the 38.

Joel


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> That is a few hours work and I don't know why he'd do that? Engine access
> is not the greatest as its all the way under the cockpit sole with a
> vee-drive at the bow end. Access is not too bad from the starboard side
> when you locker dive, or from inside the aft cabin with the companionway
> out.
>
>
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
>
> On 2013-03-15, at 15:19, "Della Barba, Joe" 
> wrote:
>
> The owner says he took the cylinder head off to check the engine for wear.
> How hard is that on a LF38?
>
> I can do it in about 45 minute son my boat if nothing is stuck, but I have
> great engine access to the top. I actually REMOVED my engine in an hour
> flat once.
>
> ** **
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Frederick G Street
> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 2:09 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
>
> ** **
>
> And then we can officially welcome you into the secret fraternity of LF38
> owners.
>
> ** **
>
> Oh -- did I say that out loud?   :^)
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Go for it, Joe!  You'll be kicking yourself if you don't. The LF38 is a
> great boat and your wife will let you hang around a while longer.
>
> 
>
> Rich Knowles
>
> Indigo. LF38
>
> Halifax
>
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Edd Schillay]

David,

I'm going with Interlux polyurethane topside paint. Seems like the best 
stuff.

I have Dk Blue ad Fire Red in hand now, but I'm thinking of only using 
red, or perhaps going with three grey stripes instead. Thanks to the Storm 
headed this way, I have at least another week to decide. 




All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "djmo...@bellsouth.net"  
wrote:

> What are you going to cover them with?  Paint or vinyl?  We have three blue 
> stripes that are faded.  I did the cove stripe in vinyl last year and it 
> still look new.  I do not know if the wide tape will conform to the curves of 
> the hull. 
> 
> David Mocny
> C&C 37+
> Obsession
> 
> 
> 
> Edd Schillay  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
>   Just a quick request for people's opinions . . . 
> 
>   As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring 
> projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's navy, 
> red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different color 
> (like three red stripes).
> 
>   See: 
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
>  
> 
>   Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts? 
> 
> 
>   
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
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>   City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Frederick G Street]

Yeah, but not much to add; she already has a windlass, lots of electronics, and the most important thing: the Dickinson propane fireplace!  :^)Interesting that he mounted that on the forward head bulkhead, rather than the forward saloon bulkhead.  I hadn't thought of putting it there.  Mine is forward and low, to help head the V-berth, too:
Fred Street -- MinneapolisS/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

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Re: Stus-List boat insurance

[Colin Kilgour]

How do you start a snowstorm? :-)



On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Tim Goodyear  wrote:

> Having just today received approval for a $12k pedestal replacement on
> Mojito (building collapse during that NE snow storm), I can thoroughly
> recommend Boat US...
>
> Tim
> Mojito
> C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 PM, David Knecht wrote:
>
>> I have gotten responses from BoatUS and Gowrie and both include coverage
>> to have the boat pulled in the event of a hurricane and both cover
>> hurricane damage.  Gowrie was significantly cheaper!  Dave
>>
>>  On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote:
>>
>>  For basic coastal coverage,  BoatUS or any of the others mentioned
>> will do fine.
>>
>> For more esoteric coverage (offshore,  hurricane season, charter,
>> funky cruising grounds) you may need more of a specialist.  I've
>> kicked around a few but have landed with IMIS (they advertise in all
>> the sailing mags). No claims experience yet (touch wood), but they can
>> get you the cover you need.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Colin
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/13, Indigo  wrote:
>>
>> ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for
>> the
>>
>> one claim I made
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Indigo 35iii - Southport
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Trade Show Services
>>
>> Cell: (203) 395 0225
>>
>> www.tradeshowservicesusa.com
>>
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen  wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Call BoatUS.  They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you
>> can
>>
>>  become a member and get their insurance.  Personally, I wouldn't get
>>
>>  insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance.  You
>> want
>>
>>  to make sure you have adequate coverage:  hull, liability, fuel spill,
>>
>>  etc.  If you shop for the lowest price, you might also get the lowest
>>
>>  service when you need them.
>>
>>
>>  Alan Bergen
>>
>>  C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>
>>  Rose City YC
>>
>>  Portland, OR
>>
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Re: Stus-List boat insurance

[Della Barba, Joe]

Same way you start a hurricane ;)

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:44 PM
To: C&C List
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat insurance

How do you start a snowstorm? :-)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Tim Goodyear 
mailto:timg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Having just today received approval for a $12k pedestal replacement on Mojito 
(building collapse during that NE snow storm), I can thoroughly recommend Boat 
US...

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 PM, David Knecht 
mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have gotten responses from BoatUS and Gowrie and both include coverage to 
have the boat pulled in the event of a hurricane and both cover hurricane 
damage.  Gowrie was significantly cheaper!  Dave

On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote:


For basic coastal coverage,  BoatUS or any of the others mentioned
will do fine.

For more esoteric coverage (offshore,  hurricane season, charter,
funky cruising grounds) you may need more of a specialist.  I've
kicked around a few but have landed with IMIS (they advertise in all
the sailing mags). No claims experience yet (touch wood), but they can
get you the cover you need.

Cheers
Colin


On 3/14/13, Indigo mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us>> wrote:

ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for the
one claim I made

Jonathan
Indigo 35iii - Southport

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Cell: (203) 395 0225
www.tradeshowservicesusa.com

On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen 
mailto:alan-at-h...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Call BoatUS.  They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you can
become a member and get their insurance.  Personally, I wouldn't get
insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance.  You want
to make sure you have adequate coverage:  hull, liability, fuel spill,
etc.  If you shop for the lowest price, you might also get the lowest
service when you need them.

Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

[Gary Nylander]

I replaced the Yanmar ignition switch on Penniless for that reason - I had bent 
two keys because of where the panel is located - damn near on the cockpit floor 
next to where your feet need to be. Then I bought a new ignition switch and key 
- and discovered that the keys are all the same! The old key (1980?) worked on 
the 2000 switch! So, the next time I stepped on the key and broke the switch, I 
replaced it with a simple push-pull switch from West at about 1/4 the cost. I 
figure if someone wants the boat bad enough, they will pull or break the panel 
and still won't have the main power on, so they would have to break into the 
boat to turn it on - there are a lot of other more glamorous boats in the boat 
yard by the way, if you turn off the ignition switch while the Yanmar is 
running, the tach stops, but the engine keeps running, the switch is only for 
the starter.

Gary
30-1
St. Michaels, MD
On the hard for a while, there's many boats between me and the travel lift.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Buscaglia 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels


  Edd

  The Yanmar panel on Alera is on the starboard side on the front panel.  I can 
bend down and see he gauges.  The only issue I have had is inadvertently 
stepping on the ignition key and bending the crap out of it from time to time.  
I'll probably screw a little guard over it eventually, so I don;t end up 
breaking the damned this off, which could be a real PITA!

  My fuel gauge is a little useless, but still better than what I had on our 
old 35 MK 1, which didn;t work at all.  Alera's shows empty when she is still 
1/2 full...at least that's what I think.  It's showing empty right now and I'm 
pretty sure she has at least 8 gal. left.  But I'll carry down a with a few 
gallons, just to make sure I don;t run out on my way to my next fill up.  

  This is my first diesel...is gas station diesel different from marine, like 
is it with gas?

  BTW...nice ass...

  Tom B



Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:34:38 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels
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They work, but they're worn and kinda ugly. The panel is fine. I just don't 
like the location -- not that I'm sure where I would move it to. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Ken Heaton]

I think you pretty much have to paint the boot stripe on a 37+.  The stripe
needs to get noticeably wider toward the bow and it gets very wide where it
turns and passes under the stern.  Certainly if vinyl it would have to be
custom cut unless you were going to overlap multiple runs of tape.  I've
seen overlap on a 35 Mk.1 and that does look OK if you don't get too close.

Ken H.


On 15 March 2013 16:21, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> David,
>
> I'm going with Interlux polyurethane topside paint. Seems like the best
> stuff.
>
> I have Dk Blue ad Fire Red in hand now, but I'm thinking of only using
> red, or perhaps going with three grey stripes instead. Thanks to the Storm
> headed this way, I have at least another week to decide.
>
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "djmo...@bellsouth.net" <
> djmo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> What are you going to cover them with?  Paint or vinyl?  We have three
> blue stripes that are faded.  I did the cove stripe in vinyl last year and
> it still look new.  I do not know if the wide tape will conform to the
> curves of the hull.
>
> David Mocny
> C&C 37+
> Obsession
>
>
>
> Edd Schillay  wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Just a quick request for people's opinions . . .
>
> As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring
> projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's
> navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different
> color (like three red stripes).
>
> See:
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
>
>
> Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts?
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
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>  City Island, NY
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Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[Tom Buscaglia]

Edd

We picked up Alera at Niagara on the Lake, C&C's home town.  She was 
painted there and I'm pretty sure there a laws there against anything 
other that the original paint on the waterline stripes!


Here's a picture after the bottom was redone with the original paint 
from the waterline up. I personally love the original three stripes. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37365243@N00/614235/in/set-72157629350057893


Note, the Awlgrip was topped off with clear coat.  So, Lynn doesn't 
have to wax the boat every year anymore like she did with Jubilee, 
our 35 MK1.  Sure make her pretty and much easier to keep up (Alera, 
not Lynn!),   If anyone is repainting their hull, I would sure 
recommend doing it!


Joe, you really ought to take a run at the C&C 38 Landfall on 
ebay.  Especially if the seller will agree to the purchase being 
subject to the usual Survey, mechanical and rigging inspections and a 
sea trial.


Tom B



Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:57:02 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

All,

Just a quick request for people's opinions . . .

As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of 
my Spring projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. 
Originally, it's navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had 
changed it to a different color (like three red stripes).


See: 
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG 



Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts?

All the best,

Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website


Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
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Vashon Island WA
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Gary Nylander]

The note said that a work relocation was part of the reason - as he is on 
the Eastern Shore and the boat is registered in New Jersey, that may be part 
of it - I don't see a lot of good sailing places unless you go down toward 
Norfolk or across the Bay. So, you run out of easy destinations.


By the way, a Hinckley Pilot 35 for $115K is nowhere near a bargain - you 
are almost in Bermuda 40 territory! Most of the ones listed in Sail Mag are 
well under $75K.


It didn't say how shallow the draft is - are Landfalls centerboard boats? I 
would be tempted


Gary
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Godwin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay


I agree with all of those points. I found the seller's comments interesting 
as regards the condition. To me he seemed to be saying, "hey, be realistic, 
yes it's an old boat. But look at what you're getting…"


Old boats of any kind have very, very little value these days. If you're 
trying to sell one by-in-large you will need to find someone who can pay 
cash. Loans for 30+ year-old boats are tough. My neighbor across the creek 
has a box stock, repainted deck and hull and kept in immaculate condition 
(redundant, I know) 1975 Hinckley Pilot 35 that has been on the market for 
three years at somewhere around $115,000. He's probably had about 3 people 
even come to look at it. For that kind of money plus a bit more a buyer can 
get a new Beneteau with an interior 4 times the size. A buddy of mine with 
Beneteau in Southern California has been pushing them out the door as fast 
as they can be delivered for over a year now.


I fully expect to give my boat away after doing what Joe is describing for 
his boat, a complete refit, paint and upgrades. Of course that is when I am 
done with sailing it and hopefully somewhere not in the near future. But I 
really don't care as I will have gotten plenty of enjoyment out of her for 
the money and time put in. That could be the situation that this seller is 
dealing with.


Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"


On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:

I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. 
on

a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. <<

I expect many tired boat owners reach a point where the monthly care, 
feeding, and moorage costs drive them to sell at almost any price.


A few may have completed all the planned voyages and adventures.  Some 
have to sell for a divorce or other major life/health change.


If the wife has interest in looking at a boat for sale I say what could 
hurt?  I know if my wife caught me seriously looking at another boat while 
still owning a share of Calypso I would join one of the groups listed 
above.


Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Della Barba

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

We just might. My wife LOVES the LF38 layout.
Last one we looked at for $49K, described as a great boat, had:
Leaking fuel tank
Reeked of diesel
Reeked of mold
Hatches leaked
The cabin sides had swollen and split aft of the ports.
It was barely worth scrap value IMHO.

I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. 
on

a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added.

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Rich Knowles]

Landfall. 4'11" draft. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo - C&C LF38
Halifax - Nova Scotia


On 2013-03-15, at 18:21, "Gary Nylander"  wrote:

> The note said that a work relocation was part of the reason - as he is on the 
> Eastern Shore and the boat is registered in New Jersey, that may be part of 
> it - I don't see a lot of good sailing places unless you go down toward 
> Norfolk or across the Bay. So, you run out of easy destinations.
> 
> By the way, a Hinckley Pilot 35 for $115K is nowhere near a bargain - you are 
> almost in Bermuda 40 territory! Most of the ones listed in Sail Mag are well 
> under $75K.
> 
> It didn't say how shallow the draft is - are Landfalls centerboard boats? I 
> would be tempted
> 
> Gary
> - Original Message - From: "Dave Godwin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
> 
> 
> I agree with all of those points. I found the seller's comments interesting 
> as regards the condition. To me he seemed to be saying, "hey, be realistic, 
> yes it's an old boat. But look at what you're getting…"
> 
> Old boats of any kind have very, very little value these days. If you're 
> trying to sell one by-in-large you will need to find someone who can pay 
> cash. Loans for 30+ year-old boats are tough. My neighbor across the creek 
> has a box stock, repainted deck and hull and kept in immaculate condition 
> (redundant, I know) 1975 Hinckley Pilot 35 that has been on the market for 
> three years at somewhere around $115,000. He's probably had about 3 people 
> even come to look at it. For that kind of money plus a bit more a buyer can 
> get a new Beneteau with an interior 4 times the size. A buddy of mine with 
> Beneteau in Southern California has been pushing them out the door as fast as 
> they can be delivered for over a year now.
> 
> I fully expect to give my boat away after doing what Joe is describing for 
> his boat, a complete refit, paint and upgrades. Of course that is when I am 
> done with sailing it and hopefully somewhere not in the near future. But I 
> really don't care as I will have gotten plenty of enjoyment out of her for 
> the money and time put in. That could be the situation that this seller is 
> dealing with.
> 
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"
> 
> 
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:
> 
 I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. on
>> a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. <<
>> 
>> I expect many tired boat owners reach a point where the monthly care, 
>> feeding, and moorage costs drive them to sell at almost any price.
>> 
>> A few may have completed all the planned voyages and adventures.  Some have 
>> to sell for a divorce or other major life/health change.
>> 
>> If the wife has interest in looking at a boat for sale I say what could 
>> hurt?  I know if my wife caught me seriously looking at another boat while 
>> still owning a share of Calypso I would join one of the groups listed above.
>> 
>> Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1970 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della 
>> Barba
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:51 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
>> 
>> We just might. My wife LOVES the LF38 layout.
>> Last one we looked at for $49K, described as a great boat, had:
>> Leaking fuel tank
>> Reeked of diesel
>> Reeked of mold
>> Hatches leaked
>> The cabin sides had swollen and split aft of the ports.
>> It was barely worth scrap value IMHO.
>> 
>> I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. on
>> a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added.
>> 
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Gary Nylander]

I went simple. Got two Garhauer (soft) boom vang kits, one large and one small. 
The large one gives me 4:1 and the small one also gives 4:1. Hook the small one 
up to the large one and you get 4:1/16:1. A child can sheet the main...

And it is pretty inexpensive. And the Garhauer blocks are bulletproof.

Gary
30-1
  - Original Message - 
  From: tim 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:33 PM
  Subject: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'


  Hi,

   

 I'm in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 29'.  
Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can others 
provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I viewed the 
Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system (hexratchet at the 
base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often and have a lot of 
friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.

   

 Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.

   

  Thanks,

   

  Tim Welsh

  Sly Fox

  Mallets Bay, VT

  29' MK1 (1976)



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Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

[Bill Coleman]

The last time I had to get a broken key out of my ignition I decided I
needed to do something different.

I sawed the head of the key off, and drilled an eighth inch hole in what was
left, and put a ring in it. Flip the ring up to twist, let it fall down and
out of the way when sailing, works great.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 animated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Nylander
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

 

I replaced the Yanmar ignition switch on Penniless for that reason - I had
bent two keys because of where the panel is located - damn near on the
cockpit floor next to where your feet need to be. Then I bought a new
ignition switch and key - and discovered that the keys are all the same! The
old key (1980?) worked on the 2000 switch! So, the next time I stepped on
the key and broke the switch, I replaced it with a simple push-pull switch
from West at about 1/4 the cost. I figure if someone wants the boat bad
enough, they will pull or break the panel and still won't have the main
power on, so they would have to break into the boat to turn it on - there
are a lot of other more glamorous boats in the boat yard by the way, if
you turn off the ignition switch while the Yanmar is running, the tach
stops, but the engine keeps running, the switch is only for the starter.

 

Gary

30-1

St. Michaels, MD

On the hard for a while, there's many boats between me and the travel lift.

- Original Message - 

From: Tom Buscaglia   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:29 PM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

 

Edd

The Yanmar panel on Alera is on the starboard side on the front panel.  I
can bend down and see he gauges.  The only issue I have had is inadvertently
stepping on the ignition key and bending the crap out of it from time to
time.  I'll probably screw a little guard over it eventually, so I don;t end
up breaking the damned this off, which could be a real PITA!

My fuel gauge is a little useless, but still better than what I had on our
old 35 MK 1, which didn;t work at all.  Alera's shows empty when she is
still 1/2 full...at least that's what I think.  It's showing empty right now
and I'm pretty sure she has at least 8 gal. left.  But I'll carry down a
with a few gallons, just to make sure I don;t run out on my way to my next
fill up.  

This is my first diesel...is gas station diesel different from marine, like
is it with gas?

BTW...nice ass...

Tom B





Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:34:38 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels
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They work, but they're worn and kinda ugly. The panel is fine. I just don't
like the location -- not that I'm sure where I would move it to. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com  


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Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

[Jeff Nelson]

Title: Boat_Sig

  
  
Slot screw drivers work exceptionally
  well for the ignition switch on Yanmar panels.  They also store
  well in a winch handel pocket.
  
  That being said, I replaced mine with a switch for an R/V at our
  local Canadian Tire for $9.  While not marinized, I can buy 6 of 
  them before I break even on the Yanmar original... If I end up
  replacing this one, I may go back to just wiring it to the circuit
  breaker
  on the panel and leave it at that.
  -- 
Cheers,
      Jeff Nelson
      Muir Caileag
      C&C 30
      Armdale Y.C.
      Halifax

  On 15/03/2013 7:13 PM, Bill Coleman wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
The
last time I had to get a broken key out of my ignition I
decided I needed to do something different.
I
sawed the head of the key off, and drilled an eighth inch
hole
in what was left, and put a ring in it. Flip the ring up to
twist, let it fall
down and out of the way when sailing, works great.
 

  Bill
  Coleman
  C&C
  39 

 

  
From:
CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Nylander
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels
  

 

  I
  replaced
  the Yanmar ignition switch on Penniless for that reason -
  I had bent two keys
  because of where the panel is located - damn near on the
  cockpit floor next to
  where your feet need to be. Then I bought a new ignition
  switch and key - and
  discovered that the keys are all the same! The old key
  (1980?) worked on the
  2000 switch! So, the next time I stepped on the key and
  broke the switch, I
  replaced it with a simple push-pull switch from West at
  about 1/4 the cost. I
  figure if someone wants the boat bad enough, they will
  pull or break the panel
  and still won't have the main power on, so they would have
  to break into the
  boat to turn it on - there are a lot of other more
  glamorous boats in the boat
  yard by the way, if you turn off the ignition switch
  while the Yanmar is
  running, the tach stops, but the engine keeps running, the
  switch is only for
  the starter.


   


  Gary


  30-1


  St.
  Michaels,
  MD


  On
  the hard
  for a while, there's many boats between me and the travel
  lift.


  
-
Original
Message - 
  
  
From: Tom Buscaglia 
  
  
To:
cnc-list@cnc-list.com

  
  
Sent:
Monday, March 11,
2013 1:29 PM
  
  
Subject:
Re: Stus-List Engine
Control Panels
  
  
 
  
  Edd

The Yanmar panel on Alera is on the starboard side on the
front panel.  I
can bend down and see he gauges.  The only issue I have had
is
inadvertently stepping on the ignition key and bending the
crap out of it from
time to time.  I'll probably screw a little guard over it
eventually, so I
don;t end up breaking the damned this off, which could be a
real PITA!

My fuel gauge is a little useless, but still better than
what I had on our old
35 MK 1, which didn;t work at all.  Alera's shows empty when
she is still
1/2 full...at least that's what I think.  It's showing empty
right now and
I'm pretty sure she has at least 8 gal. left.  But I'll
carry down a with
a few gallons, just to make sure I don;t run out on my way
to my next fill
up.  

This is my first diesel...is gas station diesel different
from marine, like is
it with gas?

BTW...nice ass...

Tom B




  Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 

Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[sam . c . salter]

I did my bootstripe and cove stripe with. Interlux grey 2 seasons ago. Also did all the canvas in Grey too - looks way more interesting than Pacific blue. Sam :-) From: Edd SchillaySent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:21 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+David,	I'm going with Interlux polyurethane topside paint. Seems like the best stuff.	I have Dk Blue ad Fire Red in hand now, but I'm thinking of only using red, or perhaps going with three grey stripes instead. Thanks to the Storm headed this way, I have at least another week to decide. 
		All the best,	Edd	Edd M. Schillay	Starship Enterprise	C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B	City Island, NY 	Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "djmo...@bellsouth.net"  wrote:What are you going to cover them with?  Paint or vinyl?  We have three blue stripes that are faded.  I did the cove stripe in vinyl last year and it still look new.  I do not know if the wide tape will conform to the curves of the hull.  David MocnyC&C 37+ObsessionEdd Schillay  wrote:All,	Just a quick request for people's opinions . . . 	As soon as the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring projects is to redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's navy, red, navy, but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different color (like three red stripes).	See: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG 	Or is it better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts? 
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Re: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

[sam . c . salter]

Tom, that bootstripe sure looks sweet! Sam :-) From: Tom BuscagliaSent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:34 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+

Edd
We picked up Alera at Niagara on the Lake, C&C's home town.  She
was painted there and I'm pretty sure there a laws there against anything
other that the original paint on the waterline stripes!
Here's a picture after the bottom was redone with the original paint from
the waterline up. I personally love the original three stripes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37365243@N00/614235/in/set-72157629350057893

Note, the Awlgrip was topped off with clear coat.  So, Lynn
doesn't have to wax the boat every year anymore like she did with
Jubilee, our 35 MK1.  Sure make her pretty and much easier to keep
up (Alera, not Lynn!),   If anyone is repainting their hull, I
would sure recommend doing it!
Joe, you really ought to take a run at the C&C 38 Landfall on
ebay.  Especially if the seller will agree to the purchase being
subject to the usual Survey, mechanical and rigging inspections and a sea
trial.
Tom B

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:57:02 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Waterline Boot Stripes on a 37+
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All,
Just a
quick request for people's opinions . . . 
As soon as
the temps get above 50 here in New York, once of my Spring projects is to
redo the three waterline boot stripes. Originally, it's navy, red, navy,
but was wondering if anyone had changed it to a different color (like
three red stripes).
See:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PPVtbhIlO7g/UG2lYMX0jfI/Bm0/BmtAWuiDrUM/s1600/spot2.JPG
 
Or is it
better to keep it the classic way? Thoughts? 
All the
best,
Edd
Edd M.
Schillay
Starship
Enterprise
C&C
37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City
Island, NY 
Starship
Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Dave Godwin]

Well, I never meant to imply that the Hinckley was a "bargain"; more just to 
provide a relative perspective of what's happening in today's market on age and 
quality versus value, market price and asking price.

And the relocation assumption can be tricky too. For instance, I live outside 
Washington D.C. in Virginia, my boat lives across the Bay from that Landfall 
and "Ronin" is registered/documented in Maryland.

And finally from Onancock, I can attest that there are a wealth of great 
cruising destinations within an easy, moderate distance sail across the Bay...

Cheers,
Dave
1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 15, 2013, at 17:21, Gary Nylander  wrote:

> The note said that a work relocation was part of the reason - as he is on the 
> Eastern Shore and the boat is registered in New Jersey, that may be part of 
> it - I don't see a lot of good sailing places unless you go down toward 
> Norfolk or across the Bay. So, you run out of easy destinations.
> 
> By the way, a Hinckley Pilot 35 for $115K is nowhere near a bargain - you are 
> almost in Bermuda 40 territory! Most of the ones listed in Sail Mag are well 
> under $75K.
> 
> It didn't say how shallow the draft is - are Landfalls centerboard boats? I 
> would be tempted
> 
> Gary
> - Original Message - From: "Dave Godwin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
> 
> 
> I agree with all of those points. I found the seller's comments interesting 
> as regards the condition. To me he seemed to be saying, "hey, be realistic, 
> yes it's an old boat. But look at what you're getting…"
> 
> Old boats of any kind have very, very little value these days. If you're 
> trying to sell one by-in-large you will need to find someone who can pay 
> cash. Loans for 30+ year-old boats are tough. My neighbor across the creek 
> has a box stock, repainted deck and hull and kept in immaculate condition 
> (redundant, I know) 1975 Hinckley Pilot 35 that has been on the market for 
> three years at somewhere around $115,000. He's probably had about 3 people 
> even come to look at it. For that kind of money plus a bit more a buyer can 
> get a new Beneteau with an interior 4 times the size. A buddy of mine with 
> Beneteau in Southern California has been pushing them out the door as fast as 
> they can be delivered for over a year now.
> 
> I fully expect to give my boat away after doing what Joe is describing for 
> his boat, a complete refit, paint and upgrades. Of course that is when I am 
> done with sailing it and hopefully somewhere not in the near future. But I 
> really don't care as I will have gotten plenty of enjoyment out of her for 
> the money and time put in. That could be the situation that this seller is 
> dealing with.
> 
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin"
> 
> 
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:
> 
 I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. on
>> a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. <<
>> 
>> I expect many tired boat owners reach a point where the monthly care, 
>> feeding, and moorage costs drive them to sell at almost any price.
>> 
>> A few may have completed all the planned voyages and adventures.  Some have 
>> to sell for a divorce or other major life/health change.
>> 
>> If the wife has interest in looking at a boat for sale I say what could 
>> hurt?  I know if my wife caught me seriously looking at another boat while 
>> still owning a share of Calypso I would join one of the groups listed above.
>> 
>> Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1970 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della 
>> Barba
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:51 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
>> 
>> We just might. My wife LOVES the LF38 layout.
>> Last one we looked at for $49K, described as a great boat, had:
>> Leaking fuel tank
>> Reeked of diesel
>> Reeked of mold
>> Hatches leaked
>> The cabin sides had swollen and split aft of the ports.
>> It was barely worth scrap value IMHO.
>> 
>> I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. on
>> a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added.
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Boot Stripe

[Chuck S]

I like this look. It is probably painted alwgrip. 
I believe it can be achieved by painting the bottom stripe which is tapered. 
Then add 2" wide tape 1" above and 1 1/2" tape 1" above that. The tapes end 
before the transom, so don't wrap under. I'd love to do my boat that way. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Sam Salter"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:27:53 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Boot Stripe 



not sure if it helps, but here's a pic of a C&C 115 with three red boot stripes 
sitting in Victoria Harbour. 


https://www.dropbox.com/s/nva2akwr21ct2q5/Photo%202006-10-10%2010%2022%2058%20AM.jpg
 




Sam :-) 

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 



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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Russ & Melody]

Ahh. Corona.

I tried Red Stripe. It didn't work so well.

Cheers, Russ

At 09:33 AM 15/03/2013, you wrote:
Life Caulk does not stick to Starboard. Almost nothing sticks to 
Starboard, since it is a high-density polyethylene. The only caulk I 
have found that does stick is System Three SA-2100, which is a 
water-based 2-part polyurethane, and the Starboard needs to be 
corona-treated before application, then left for a month until the 
2100 sets up firm. Even then you can pry it off with a bit of determination.

--
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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On 14 March 2013 22:27, Joel Aronson 
<joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:

The caulk sticks to Starboard. Silicone does not.

Joel Aronson


On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:38 AM, "Dennis C." 
<capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Life Calk is polysulfide.  LifeSeal is a polyurethane/silicone 
blend.  For what to use where visit and bookmark this page:


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http://boatlife.com/media/img/Boatlife-Sealant-Chart-20121220.jpg>


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



From: Ronald B. Frerker <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

What's the difference between Lifeseal & Lifecaulk?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
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