Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?

I'm lucky enough to be in a position where they drop out of the woodwork
into my lap, the biggest being a DS25 running Tru64 and the smallest being
the Multia NT Workstation. Ones in use fairly regularly are a DS10 along
with my VAX 3100/90 from an old workplace. I'm in the process of giving
some of them away though because they take up too much room.

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On 13 March 2018 at 04:25, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Place your wagers...
>
>
> How many more years do you think it'll take before decent, practical-sized
> Alphas, like the DS15, and to some degree, the DS10, will be obtainable at
> hobbyist-friendly prices?
>
>
> I have an ES47 I got for a price I could stomach, but it's sans rail kit,
> drinks power like it's going out of style, and can anchor a 40-ft yacht.
>
>
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
>


FS: Commodore items from Sellam's collection

2018-03-14 Thread Sellam Ismail via cctalk
Hi Folks.

It's time for the Commodore collectors to get their turn.  I've created a
separate thread for Commodore and related items for sale from my
collection.  I will be continuing to add Commodore stuff to this thread as
I come across it.

The list is here:

http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?62641-Sellam-s-Commodore-Sales-Thread

If you are interested in anything then as usual for fastest response please
do reply to me by e-mail via .

Thanks!

Sellam


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of giving
> some of them away though because they take up too much room.

The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.

Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(

But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be interested.

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Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Michael-John Turner via cctalk

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:55:18AM +, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be 
interested.


I'm guessing the lack of interest from Theo may have been because the VAX 
port was dropped after OpenBSD 5.9[1]. Was rather sad when that happened as 
NetBSD's VAX support isn't in a great state these days.


[1] https://www.openbsd.org/vax.html

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Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Michael-John Turner via cctalk

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:44:15PM +, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote:

Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
failing about them?


A number of years ago I had an AlphaServer 2100 running Tru64 that just 
died. It worked fine one day and the next day started displaying fault 
codes on the front LCD (IIRC). I never managed to work out what they meant 
although I suspected a CPU board fault. I later gave the machine to a 
friend to cannabilise for parts (he's a heavy VMS user and was able to 
salvage some of the parts).


IIRC it was a 4/200, with a pair of EV4 CPUs, 512MiB RAM and half a dozen 
2GiB SCSI drives. It had the pedestal chassis.


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3100/90?

2018-03-14 Thread ftg888--- via cctalk
I am looking into getting a VMS
Machines up and running and or 
Open/netbsd you mentioned you had a few to donate or sale thanks. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 11:55, Liam Proven via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in the process of giving
>> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
> 
> The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
> sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
> toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.
> 
> Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
> 
> But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be interested.
> 
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Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 14 March 2018 at 12:54, Michael-John Turner  wrote:
>
> I'm guessing the lack of interest from Theo may have been because the VAX
> port was dropped after OpenBSD 5.9[1]. Was rather sad when that happened as
> NetBSD's VAX support isn't in a great state these days.
>
> [1] https://www.openbsd.org/vax.html

Cause/effect error. I offered my 4000/60 to him when I was leaving the
country in 2014. After some weeks of consideration, during which time
I packed it up and got it delivered to Red Hat in Farnborough, he
decided he didn't want it.

I started working for Red Hat in Brno soon afterwards. Sadly, a couple
of months later, I stopped working for Red Hat.

When I asked for the machine back in 2016, they had lost it. :-(

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Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Michael-John Turner via cctalk

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:02:24PM +, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:

Cause/effect error. I offered my 4000/60 to him when I was leaving the
country in 2014. After some weeks of consideration, during which time
I packed it up and got it delivered to Red Hat in Farnborough, he
decided he didn't want it.


Ah, in 2014 the VAX port was still very much active.


When I asked for the machine back in 2016, they had lost it. :-(


:( That sucks - the 4000/60 is a nice machine. I'd love one - my only VAX 
is a 3100/M30.


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Re: a bit off topic - looking for someone w/7 track 1/2" analog

2018-03-14 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 03/13/2018 09:39 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > comp for 1 - 7/8 IPS like to get all tracks digitized
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/IMcgjxugzKMuIvKv2
> >
> > will put on open file server then sell the tape
> >
>
> So, someone with an old Ampex PR-500 deck?   I saw one for sale on eBay
> a few years ago--heh.
>
> Richard Hess in Ontario has a bunch of old instrumentation gear and
> specializes in audio tape restoration.   He certainly could do the job
> for you.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>
>
>


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the process of giving
>> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
> 
> The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
> sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
> toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.

OpenBSD can't support VAX-11 any longer, unless somebody implements TLS
for that architecture (which I believe would need major toolchain work?)

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160309192510

That would explain why they no longer want VAX-11 hardware.

--Toby

> 
> Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
> 
> But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be interested.
> 



Re: 3100/90?

2018-03-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:10 AM, ftg888--- via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I am looking into getting a VMS
> Machines up and running and or 
> Open/netbsd you mentioned you had a few to donate or sale thanks. 

If you haven’t, take a look at SIMH/VAX.  I’m migrating much of my home VMS 
activity over.  It’s been especially nice for getting easy to backup storage 
into my Cluster.  Long-term I’m looking to drastically cut my power needs by 
taking physical systems offline, except when needed.

Zane






Re: 3100/90?

2018-03-14 Thread geneb via cctalk

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:



storage into my Cluster.  Long-term I’m looking to drastically cut my 
power needs by taking physical systems offline, except when needed.


A billion times this. :)  I turned four physical machines (x86 servers) 
into 8 virtual machines on a single Dell R710 and my power bill has fallen 
about $60/month.


g.


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Re: 800 and 1600bpi 9 track test data

2018-03-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk


On 3/13/18 9:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

> Al, did you see this patent by Kennedy:
> 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3947876
> 
> --Chuck
> 

No, I hadn't. Interesting it doesn't seem to match the circuit in any of the 
manuals
I've scanned.

I've also been scanning some boxes of instrumentation recorders. They've been 
going up
under http://bitsavers.org/test_equipment




Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of giving
> >> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
> >
> > The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> > VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
> > sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
> > toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.
>
> OpenBSD can't support VAX-11 any longer, unless somebody implements TLS
> for that architecture (which I believe would need major toolchain work?)
>
> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160309192510
>
> That would explain why they no longer want VAX-11 hardware.
>
> --Toby
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
> >
> > But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be
> interested.
> >
>
>
>


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk wrote:

> Place your wagers...
> 
> 
> How many more years do you think it'll take before decent, practical-sized 
> Alphas, like the DS15, and to some degree, the DS10, will be obtainable at 
> hobbyist-friendly prices?
> 
> 
> I have an ES47 I got for a price I could stomach, but it's sans rail kit, 
> drinks power like it's going out of style, and can anchor a 40-ft yacht.
> 
> 
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?

I have a DEC 500/AU Miata and a 500/AU from Compaq as far as I know,
The Comapq ran at 600Mhz 24/7 in a company I was employed with FreeBSD,
the DEC is untouched since I got it and has cache memory (3rd. level)
in difference to the compaq which has no cache module.
Besides of that I have a VAX4000/300 running VMS7.3, an VS4000/90
with VMS 7.3 and NetBSD and a VS3100/M76 with Open- and NetBSD as far as
I remember.
Most of the time they all switched off, because of enery bills...

Regards,

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R: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
I hope the answer is "no" :S

-Messaggio originale-
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via cctalk
Inviato: mercoledì 14 marzo 2018 17:15
A: Toby Thain; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: AlphaServers

so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:

> On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk 
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of giving
> >> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
> >
> > The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end 
> > VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to 
> > sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some 
> > toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.
>
> OpenBSD can't support VAX-11 any longer, unless somebody implements 
> TLS for that architecture (which I believe would need major toolchain 
> work?)
>
> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160309192510
>
> That would explain why they no longer want VAX-11 hardware.
>
> --Toby
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
> >
> > But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be
> interested.
> >
>
>
>



Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
What models are these?  You said they’re in Oregon?

Zane



> On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1



Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
The are in Oregon about 25 miles west of Portland. I don't remember the
model numbers. It maybe some time before I can get to them,
but they to go, where they are being stored   needs to be emptied of
anything of value by early July. What is left will go to recycle or
metal scrap. I am looking for a few $'s to cover the expenses against my
estate. Like $200 for all three ?

Maybe someone on CC can ID them.

One or two were running when moved to storge.

-pete

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Zane Healy  wrote:

> What models are these?  You said they’re in Oregon?
>
> Zane
>
>
>
> > On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1
>
>
>


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
>Maybe someone on CC can ID them

Looks like an 800, DS20 and either a 1200 or early DS20 which was built into a 
1200 case. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 17:27, Pete Lancashire via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe someone on CC can ID them


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:54 PM, geneb via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> Really on the VAX side, emulation makes sense.  For $75, I picked up a HP i5 
>> system that’s dedicated to running SIMH 24x7, and I also have SIMH running 
>> on my HP i7 ESXI system, and on a RPi2.  The i7 is my fastest “VAX”.
>> 
> Zane, what's the host OS that you're using for SIMH?
> 
> tnx.
> 
> g.

I’m currently using Ubuntu (I’ve run SIMH a lot of different UNIX & Linux 
flavors over the years).  

With the ESXI and RPi systems, I’m using the version of SIMH/VAX that Ubuntu 
provides.  With the i5, I upgraded to current to try to resolve some issues.  
The i5 is serving up several large drives, and a couple small Shadowsets that 
it shares with another system.  The Shadowsets are for Cluster Files, and 
critical data.  It’s also my cluster tape server (virtual tapes).

There can be issues, but I think the ones I’ve run into are more a OpenVMS/VAX 
v7.3 & OpenVMS/Alpha v8.3 clustering issue. Backing up an ODS-5 disk from a VAX 
isn’t a good idea, but it seems fine to back it up from the Alpha, to a tape 
drive on the VAX.

Zane





Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread geneb via cctalk

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:



Really on the VAX side, emulation makes sense.  For $75, I picked up a 
HP i5 system that’s dedicated to running SIMH 24x7, and I also have 
SIMH running on my HP i7 ESXI system, and on a RPi2.  The i7 is my 
fastest “VAX”.



Zane, what's the host OS that you're using for SIMH?

tnx.

g.


I’m currently using Ubuntu (I’ve run SIMH a lot of different UNIX & 
Linux flavors over the years).


With the ESXI and RPi systems, I’m using the version of SIMH/VAX that 
Ubuntu provides.  With the i5, I upgraded to current to try to resolve 
some issues.  The i5 is serving up several large drives, and a couple 
small Shadowsets that it shares with another system.  The Shadowsets are 
for Cluster Files, and critical data.  It’s also my cluster tape server 
(virtual tapes).


There can be issues, but I think the ones I’ve run into are more a 
OpenVMS/VAX v7.3 & OpenVMS/Alpha v8.3 clustering issue. Backing up an 
ODS-5 disk from a VAX isn’t a good idea, but it seems fine to back it up 
from the Alpha, to a tape drive on the VAX.


What model of HP i5 did you get?  I'm entertaining the idea of getting 
another R710, but they're still ~$250 plus drives.


tnx.

g.

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Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14

2018-03-14 Thread Fred via cctalk

> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:28:11 -0600
> From: Grant Taylor 
> Subject: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13
> Message-ID:
>   <6a172546-d8f1-13b9-f843-8fdba5799...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
>
> If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
> Multiprise 3000.

> But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it that way.

The power requirements aren't that bad, are they?

I think Guy Sotomayor (spelling, apologies if I'm butchering ...) has a
MP3K that I believe I bid against him on eBay once, and he ended up
getting it (which made me feel a bit better).  It's what I call a 1/4
fridge size.

There were/are multi MP3K's on eBay currently that I've been watching, and
one didn't know if there was an OS on it (Not sure I'd want to fight that
battle with IBM, although a corner of the Internet lengthy forum post
(yes, anecdotes are not evidence) leads me to believe they at least are
"sympathetic" to hobbyists, but they won't publically admit it.   ... but
I still didn't want to chance getting a paperweight.  The other one is way
too much for me $ wise.

I have a basement and 220V available.   For an IBM Mainframe of my own,
damn the power bill.  :)   As long as it doesn't have the awful whine of
an Alpha DS10-L I don't think my wife would mind.

I will admit to myself that at some point there will be a limit to how
many systems I can have at the house though running 24/7 :)

Fred





Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14

2018-03-14 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk


> On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Fred via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:28:11 -0600
>> From: Grant Taylor 
>> Subject: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13
>> Message-ID:
>>  <6a172546-d8f1-13b9-f843-8fdba5799...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
>> 
>> If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
>> Multiprise 3000.
> 
>> But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it that way.
> 
> The power requirements aren't that bad, are they?
> 
> I think Guy Sotomayor (spelling, apologies if I'm butchering ...) has a
> MP3K that I believe I bid against him on eBay once, and he ended up
> getting it (which made me feel a bit better).  It's what I call a 1/4
> fridge size.

Spelling’s correct!

Realistically, none of these are really that big power hogs.  MP3K runs on a
normal 120v/20A circuit (I believe it’s about ~1500W when fully configured).

I don’t run it 24/7 (actually I haven’t run it in a while…too much other stuff 
going
on at the moment).

My 4331 (whose peripherals required 208v 3-phase) all told needs ~20KVA.
That *will* put a dent in my power bill.

> 
> There were/are multi MP3K's on eBay currently that I've been watching, and
> one didn't know if there was an OS on it (Not sure I'd want to fight that
> battle with IBM, although a corner of the Internet lengthy forum post
> (yes, anecdotes are not evidence) leads me to believe they at least are
> "sympathetic" to hobbyists, but they won't publically admit it.   ... but
> I still didn't want to chance getting a paperweight.  The other one is way
> too much for me $ wise.

I think one of them is an Enterprise Server and not an MP3K.

> 
> I have a basement and 220V available.   For an IBM Mainframe of my own,
> damn the power bill.  :)   As long as it doesn't have the awful whine of
> an Alpha DS10-L I don't think my wife would mind.

That’s also why all of my “stuff” (junk as my wife calls it) is in a separate 
building
on our property.  Out of sight/out of mind.  ;-)

My shop has dedicated 220V @ 200A, so I have a “reasonable” amount of power.  
;-)

> 
> I will admit to myself that at some point there will be a limit to how
> many systems I can have at the house though running 24/7 :)

;-)

The only stuff that I run 24/7 is my network infrastructure, work machines
and my iMac that is our media server (which is getting perilously close to
completely filling a 16TB RAID).

TTFN - Guy



Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:40 PM, geneb via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:
> 
>> I’m currently using Ubuntu (I’ve run SIMH a lot of different UNIX & Linux 
>> flavors over the years).
>> 
>> With the ESXI and RPi systems, I’m using the version of SIMH/VAX that Ubuntu 
>> provides.  With the i5, I upgraded to current to try to resolve some issues. 
>>  The i5 is serving up several large drives, and a couple small Shadowsets 
>> that it shares with another system.  The Shadowsets are for Cluster Files, 
>> and critical data.  It’s also my cluster tape server (virtual tapes).
>> 
>> There can be issues, but I think the ones I’ve run into are more a 
>> OpenVMS/VAX v7.3 & OpenVMS/Alpha v8.3 clustering issue. Backing up an ODS-5 
>> disk from a VAX isn’t a good idea, but it seems fine to back it up from the 
>> Alpha, to a tape drive on the VAX.
> 
> What model of HP i5 did you get?  I'm entertaining the idea of getting 
> another R710, but they're still ~$250 plus drives.
> 
> tnx.
> 
> g.

I’ve been using the HP SFF systems.  I think the i5 I got specifically to run 
SIMH is a 6300.  It’s an i5-3470 3.2Ghz system with 4 GB RAM.  I had to add a 
hard drive, but had an old 500GB drive laying around.  That’s plenty big to 
backup and migrate the data on my Compaq XP1000 running OpenVMS 8.3 to.  It’s 
not a modern system, but it’s newer by far than any of my real VMS hardware.  
To me the key thing is, it only cost $75.

I also have two other HP SFF systems, both are 8200’s one is an i5, the other 
an i7.  The i7 is the ESXI system I mentioned.  The VM running SIMH is able to 
outperform SIMH on the HP 6300 SFF box.  I initially had lots of issues with 
clock drift on OpenVMS running under ESXI, but it turns out that was due to my 
having throttled the VM itself.  Once I removed that, everything is fine.  I’ve 
since switched to using CPU idling under SIMH, to reduce the load on the host 
CPU.

In spite of having a website on emulating DEC HW, I’ve resisted emulating the 
VAX, as I didn’t see the point.  We’ve reached the point where even a RPI 
running SIMH outperforms most of my VAXen, and the i5 and i7 based systems 
running SIMH can outperform all of my VAXen.  I just wish the hobbyist options 
for Alpha emulation were better.

I may consider picking up another HP SFF running a supported version of 
Windows, and then trying the Alpha emulation on it.

Zane




Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-14 Thread geneb via cctalk

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:

I’ve been using the HP SFF systems.  I think the i5 I got specifically 
to run SIMH is a 6300.  It’s an i5-3470 3.2Ghz system with 4 GB RAM.  I 
had to add a hard drive, but had an old 500GB drive laying around. 
That’s plenty big to backup and migrate the data on my Compaq XP1000 
running OpenVMS 8.3 to.  It’s not a modern system, but it’s newer by far 
than any of my real VMS hardware.  To me the key thing is, it only cost 
$75.


Ah, ok.  So you're using little desktop boxes for it.  You might want to 
look into an R710 then.  I paid around $350 for mine (no drives) and it 
came with a pair of Xeon 5570 CPUs at 2.93 Ghz and 32GB of RAM.  I dropped 
four Western Digital 2TB Red SATA drives into it and it goes like a 
scalded cat.  I've got three Win7x64, four Linux servers, one MacOS and 
one FreeBSD instance running on it.  The average power consumption is 
around 173 watts according to ESXi.  I may have to try SIMH on there as 
well, but the only PAKs I have are for MicroVMS 4 if memory serves...


g.


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Anyone have a Fujitsu M2451E 130mb tape drive manual?

2018-03-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I have a couple of carts I'd like to read, found a drive today, talks SCSI but 
not common command set.
It seems to act more like a disk than a tape (read block makes the tape move), 
but mode sense doesn't
return anything sensible.

The only thing I've ever been able to turn up on these drives is a mention in a 
Fuji product brochure




Re: Anyone have a Fujitsu M2451E 130mb tape drive manual?

2018-03-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
oh, and obviously, the Fujitsu carts, which sort of look like DLTs, can only be 
read in this drive.


On 3/14/18 4:08 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I have a couple of carts I'd like to read, found a drive today, talks SCSI 
> but not common command set.
> It seems to act more like a disk than a tape (read block makes the tape 
> move), but mode sense doesn't
> return anything sensible.
> 
> The only thing I've ever been able to turn up on these drives is a mention in 
> a Fuji product brochure
> 
>