Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Mib file

[Chuck McCown]

At first I was imagining a CS professor that was in charge of their software.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Jesse Dupont  
> wrote:
> 
> Whoops... yes, auto incorrect struck again. Processor.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Haha - yes, management of these devices can be quite slow.  The radios 
>> themselves are not slow, though.  :)
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:57 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> That had me totally confused until I realized you probably meant processor. 
>>>  That takes the typo/autocorrect prize for the day.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jesse Dupont
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 8:32 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Mib file
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Their management professor does seem very lacking.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Be careful.. the WTM radios don't handle lots of SNMP queries very well.  
>>> They will start rejecting requests after 15+ concurrent requests in a short 
>>> period of time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:24 PM Steve Jones  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Im not finding a mib file anywhere for the wtm4200 is there one? 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] 24v to 48v upconverter pulses

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I use Zahn Electronics for DC-DC converters and have not had any problems
with them in 13 years.
https://www.zahninc.com/

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 5:36 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Conventional wisdom is you want a converter that goes into current
> limiting on overload, not foldback.  That was why people said to get Mean
> Well RSD series instead of SD which would go into foldback.
>
>
>
> That assumes your load devices will tolerate a momentary dip in voltage,
> most will, but foldback may be what’s causing the “cycling” he is seeing.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2020 4:07 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24v to 48v upconverter pulses
>
>
>
> I found this problem with every single cheap DC-DC I have used if I buy
> too close to the load I need.  5X or 10X then they are OK.
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:18 PM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24v to 48v upconverter pulses
>
>
>
> This is all true, but how much inrush current can you have with one switch
> and one PoE device?
>
>
>
> On 9/3/2020 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Yeah a fully charged 24 volt rechargeable battery in parallel with the
> load would probably fix the problem.  Get a couple small gel cells.  But
> they will have an inrush current too.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I guess I’d like to hear how many watts you need for stuff that can run on
> 48/56 volts, vs how many for stuff that must have 24V.
>
>
>
> 240 watts is a lot of 48V, I would seriously think about a 48V power
> supply and battery string.  Even if you put that along side your 24V
> setup.  Batteries are really good at handling inrush current.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:56 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24v to 48v upconverter pulses
>
>
>
> Lots of equipment will have a high inrush current wham starting.  I think
> you don’t have enough capacity to get things started.  Cheap DC-DC
> converters don’t like high starting loads.  A fix would be a series
> inductor with a flywheel diode.  I am on the road else I would help with
> some component selection.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I bought a cheap 24v to 48v (5A max) upconvert from Amazon.
>
>
>
> I have it wired to feed a MT CRS switch via DC and radio via POE on the
> 48v leg.
>
>
>
> But when I plug everything in, the CRS doesn’t show any lights, and the
> radio/POE just pulses green light it’s powering, then not powering in a
> cycle.
>
>
>
> When I remove the radio POE, the CRS will start pulsing green light it’s
> getting power for a split second, then not, then power, in a cycle just
> like the radio POE.
>
> After maybe 10-20 seconds the CRS finally gets full power and boots up
> just fine.
>
> After it begins to get full power I can plug in the POE to the radio and
> it boots up just fine too.
>
>
>
> I’ve tried different power supplies and different POE injectors and
> different CRS switches and different 24v to 48v upconvert modules, always
> the same.
>
>
>
> So I’m thinking I need to do something inline with the 24v feed to maybe
> delay or build up amperage first?
>
>
>
> It really sounds like an odd electronics problem with this particular
> upconverter that may be lacking a component necessary for my scenario.
>
>
>
> What do you electronics people think?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 6:42 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Vrrp
>
>
>
> Yes - the VRRP should be a /32.  Typical configuration looks like this:
>
>
>
> Router1:
>
>
>
> ether1:  192.168.1.2/24
>
> vrrp.ether1:  192.168.1.1/32
>
>
>
> Router2:
>
>
>
> ether1: 192.168.1.3/24
>
> vrrp.ether1:  192.168.1.1/32
>
>
>
> Your VRRP interface (192.168.1.1/32) should be a /32, and it should be on
> the same subnet as your "physical" interfaces.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:06 PM Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF <
> af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys
>
>
>
> Has anyone had much experience with using Vrrp on a Mikrotik?
>
> It seemed pretty easy to setup but the manual said the floating IP must be
> a /32 and to put an IP on the physical interface with a /24
>
> This seemed wrong so I just put a /24 on the Vrrp interface and a
> completely different subnet on the physical interface for the routers to
> communicate.
>
>
>
> Thinking I was clever all was well till about 1am two days after I did
> this, then it completely failed, switching back and forth from master to
> backup, basically having two masters on and off.
>
>
>
> Is having a /32 on the vrrp really necessary, if so why?
>
> Why would it have been all good

Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Nate Burke]

fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?

On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Jaime Solorza]

Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
>
> On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Peace
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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Steve Jones]

know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
> cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
>>
>> On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Peace
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[AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Nate Burke]

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I 
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial 
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial 
license.


The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the 
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to 
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical 
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General - 
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many 
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for 
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of 
a deal is it?


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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Ken Hohhof]

I don’t know, those eggs look perfect, I wouldn’t mess with them.

 

It does make me hungry for some corned beef hash though.  Chuck probably has 
some cans of it next to his Vienna sausages.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

 

know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar

 

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and 
cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

 

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> > wrote:

fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?

On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Peace

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Jaime Solorza]

Never vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

> know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
>> cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
>>>
>>> On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Peace
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[chuck]

I do actually.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:30 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

I don’t know, those eggs look perfect, I wouldn’t mess with them.

 

It does make me hungry for some corned beef hash though.  Chuck probably has 
some cans of it next to his Vienna sausages.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

 

know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar

 

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

  Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and 
cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

   

  On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?

On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Peace

   

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[chuck]

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing commercial 
ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial for the 
incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know nothing 
about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can legally fly 
drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even true.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
a deal is it?

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Matt Hoppes]

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does have 
other things attached to it.

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
> I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing commercial 
> ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial for the 
> incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know nothing about 
> drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can legally fly drones due 
> to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even true.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
> 
> I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
> understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
> flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
> license.
> 
> The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
> 'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
> psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
> knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
> Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
> people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
> the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
> a deal is it?
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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Steve Jones]

once you try it, im telling you, youre going to regret your entire
life's meals


On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:40 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Never vinegar
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
>>> cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
 fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?

 On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 Peace



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[AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

[cgray]

This feels like a bad idea, but everything is pretty bad right now.

 

The state-funded FTTH system is doing installations and taking customers.
After customers switch, they often call us up asking for router
recommendations. We have been saying no, our recommended gear is available
only on our network. but we've already lost these customers and they're in a
new contract. Are we missing an opportunity here? Should we be offering to
lease our routers to these FTTH customers for $15-20 / month?

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[chuck]

Found the process:

For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 61, 
You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take you 
about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight 
review within the previous 24 months.


Crap, have not had a medical in years...

-Original Message- 
From: Matt Hoppes

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does 
have other things attached to it.



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial 
for the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know 
nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can 
legally fly drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even 
true.


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
a deal is it?

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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Nate Burke]

I have a super sensitive vinegar detector, can't stand it in food. 
Nothing is more vile than salt and vinegar chips.  I think it probably 
goes back to my Mom using it for cleaning.  Pot of vinegar boiling for 
hours (at 5 years old, 15 minutes=4 hours) on the stove cleaning calcium 
out of the faucet aerators.  Made the whole house reek.


On 9/4/2020 11:58 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
once you try it, im telling you, youre going to regret your entire 
life's meals



On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:40 AM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Never vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with
enchilada sauce and cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:

fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top? 
Bacon chunks?


On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Peace




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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Jaime Solorza]

White vinegar and baking soda...great cleaner and sink unclogging

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 11:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have a super sensitive vinegar detector, can't stand it in food.
> Nothing is more vile than salt and vinegar chips.  I think it probably goes
> back to my Mom using it for cleaning.  Pot of vinegar boiling for hours (at
> 5 years old, 15 minutes=4 hours) on the stove cleaning calcium out of the
> faucet aerators.  Made the whole house reek.
>
> On 9/4/2020 11:58 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> once you try it, im telling you, youre going to regret your entire
> life's meals
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:40 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Never vinegar
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
 cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
>
> On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Peace
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Re: [AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

[Darin Steffl]

Never thought about it that way but if you're good with it, it should be
easy money! No network to support, just wifi support.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 12:23 PM  wrote:

> This feels like a bad idea, but everything is pretty bad right now.
>
>
>
> The state-funded FTTH system is doing installations and taking customers.
> After customers switch, they often call us up asking for router
> recommendations. We have been saying no, our recommended gear is available
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Robert Andrews]

Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
reviewer is the PIC...


On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:

For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 
61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take 
you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a 
flight review within the previous 24 months.


Crap, have not had a medical in years...

-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly 
even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but 
it does have other things attached to it.



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need 
commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped 
it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have been told 
that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if 
that is even true.


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
a deal is it?

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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[James Howard]

I am reminded of a Dr. Suess book...  Seems like there should be some 
wagering on how long it's going to take to get Jaime to try the vinegar and 
whether he'll like it when he does.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 11:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

once you try it, im telling you, youre going to regret your entire life's meals


On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:40 AM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Never vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and 
cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Peace



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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Nate Burke]

Doing some more googling around, it looks like there are some online 
course prep 'schools'  They're all <$300 and guarantee passing the 
test.  That doesn't seem too bad.   Now, how to choose which one.


On 9/4/2020 1:04 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
reviewer is the PIC...


On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:

For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR 
part 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which 
will take you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have 
completed a flight review within the previous 24 months.


Crap, have not had a medical in years...

-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly 
even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license 
but it does have other things attached to it.



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need 
commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I 
dropped it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have 
been told that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.  
Not sure if that is even true.


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license. How big of
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Mark Radabaugh]

A couple of things have changed since you last had a medical.

You can now do ‘BasicMed’ to satisfy the FCC requirement:

What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?
Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S. driver's license, 
have held a medical after July 14, 2006).
Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the Comprehensive 
Medical Examination Checklist
Complete a BasicMed medical education course;
Go fly!


As a CFI I can complete a BFR with you while acting as PIC for the flight, 
meaning  you do not have to have a current medical to complete.

Once you (as a certified pilot) complete the online course you can take that 
certification to any CFI to certify your application to get your ‘remote pilot’ 
license.

Your private certificate does not cover you to fly a drone (remote pilot in FAA 
terms).

Mark

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
> reviewer is the PIC...
> 
> On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> Found the process:
>> For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 61, 
>> You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take you 
>> about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight 
>> review within the previous 24 months.
>> Crap, have not had a medical in years...
>> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>> That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
>> though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does 
>> have other things attached to it.
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
>>> commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial 
>>> for the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know 
>>> nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can 
>>> legally fly drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even 
>>> true.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
>>> To: Animal Farm
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>>> 
>>> I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
>>> understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
>>> flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
>>> license.
>>> 
>>> The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
>>> 'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
>>> psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
>>> knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
>>> Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
>>> people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
>>> the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
>>> a deal is it?
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Mark Radabaugh]

There are several courses.  I have no opinion on them specifically.   You have 
to take the test at a FAA designated testing location and that will cost you 
roughly $100.

Mark

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> 
> Doing some more googling around, it looks like there are some online course 
> prep 'schools'  They're all <$300 and guarantee passing the test.  That 
> doesn't seem too bad.   Now, how to choose which one.
> 
> On 9/4/2020 1:04 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
>> reviewer is the PIC...
>> 
>> On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> Found the process:
>>> 
>>> For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 
>>> 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take 
>>> you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight 
>>> review within the previous 24 months.
>>> 
>>> Crap, have not had a medical in years...
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>>> 
>>> That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
>>> though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does 
>>> have other things attached to it.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
 
 I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
 commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial 
 for the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know 
 nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can 
 legally fly drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even 
 true.
 
 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
 
 I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
 understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
 flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
 license.
 
 The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
 'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
 psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
 knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
 Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
 people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
 the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license. How big of
 a deal is it?
 
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Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday

[Jaime Solorza]

Nunca

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 1:20 PM James Howard  wrote:

> I am reminded of a Dr. Suess book…….  Seems like there should be some
> wagering on how long it’s going to take to get Jaime to try the vinegar and
> whether he’ll like it when he does.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2020 11:59 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's Friday
>
>
>
> once you try it, im telling you, youre going to regret your entire
> life's meals
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:40 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Never vinegar
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 10:18 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> know what would be good on them eggs? some spicy vinegar
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Chilaquiles... tortilla cut into small pieces with enchilada sauce and
> cheese..look up recipes...easy peasy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 9:18 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> fried eggs, refried beans, but what's at the top?  Bacon chunks?
>
> On 9/4/2020 10:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Peace
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Re: [AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

[Ken Hohhof]

I would run away.

 

I hate supporting my own customers routers.  I’m running into a bunch of 
customer who buy “mesh systems” and “range extenders” and add them to our 
managed router and all hell breaks loose.  Or who run a cable to their barn, 
move our PPPoE managed router from the house to the barn, and buy a new Netgear 
Nighthawk for the house, and then complain because their Internet doesn’t work. 
 With all the work and school from home, I have a bunch of people that remind 
me of a relative who can’t drive but keeps buying cars.  You tell me you don’t 
understand technology, why do you keep buying all these tech toys?  One 
customer was saying all their Alexas were saying Netgear Genie.  This was after 
a storm caused a power outage and one of their 3 Netgear routers defaulted 
itself.

 

I was asking one of our techs today if as essential workers we had “qualified 
immunity” and are allowed to shoot customers.  That led to a Judge Dredd 
discussion.

 

I say let them call Geek Squad.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

 

Never thought about it that way but if you're good with it, it should be easy 
money! No network to support, just wifi support. 

 

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 12:23 PM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote:

This feels like a bad idea, but everything is pretty bad right now.

 

The state-funded FTTH system is doing installations and taking customers. After 
customers switch, they often call us up asking for router recommendations. We 
have been saying no, our recommended gear is available only on our network… but 
we’ve already lost these customers and they’re in a new contract. Are we 
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Re: [AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

[Carl Peterson]

We are thinking of doing this with Plume.  No reason why they need to be on
out network and if they are in one of our markets it gives us an
opportunity to sell them our service if their other service is crap.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:23 PM  wrote:

> This feels like a bad idea, but everything is pretty bad right now.
>
>
>
> The state-funded FTTH system is doing installations and taking customers.
> After customers switch, they often call us up asking for router
> recommendations. We have been saying no, our recommended gear is available
> only on our network… but we’ve already lost these customers and they’re in
> a new contract. Are we missing an opportunity here? Should we be offering
> to lease our routers to these FTTH customers for $15-20 / month?
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Re: [AFMUG] Leasing Routers - To Customers On Other Networks?

[Steve Jones]

Know what works good? Sticking a cnpilot e series outdoor ap in their
living room and frying their eyeballs with 5g

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 4:16 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> We are thinking of doing this with Plume.  No reason why they need to be
> on out network and if they are in one of our markets it gives us an
> opportunity to sell them our service if their other service is crap.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>
>> This feels like a bad idea, but everything is pretty bad right now.
>>
>>
>>
>> The state-funded FTTH system is doing installations and taking customers.
>> After customers switch, they often call us up asking for router
>> recommendations. We have been saying no, our recommended gear is available
>> only on our network… but we’ve already lost these customers and they’re in
>> a new contract. Are we missing an opportunity here? Should we be offering
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[chuck]

Nice, no EKG.  I wonder if having a DOT medical card would be roughly 
equivalent to the CMEC.  In otherwords do I still have to see an airmans 
medical examiner or can my DOT doctor do it?

From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

A couple of things have changed since you last had a medical. 

You can now do ‘BasicMed’ to satisfy the FCC requirement:

What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?
  1.. Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S. driver's 
license, have held a medical after July 14, 2006). 
  2.. Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the 
Comprehensive Medical Examination Checklist 
  3.. Complete a BasicMed medical education course; 
  4.. Go fly!


As a CFI I can complete a BFR with you while acting as PIC for the flight, 
meaning  you do not have to have a current medical to complete.

Once you (as a certified pilot) complete the online course you can take that 
certification to any CFI to certify your application to get your ‘remote pilot’ 
license.

Your private certificate does not cover you to fly a drone (remote pilot in FAA 
terms).

Mark


  On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:

  Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
reviewer is the PIC...

  On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:
For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 
61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take you 
about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight review 
within the previous 24 months.
Crap, have not had a medical in years...
-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does have 
other things attached to it.

  On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial for 
the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know nothing 
about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can legally fly drones 
due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even true.

  -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
  Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
  To: Animal Farm
  Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

  I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
  understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
  flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
  license.

  The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
  'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
  psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
  knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
  Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
  people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
  the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
  a deal is it?

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Ken Hohhof]

What does "guarantee" mean?

Maybe if you fail the test, you can take the course again for free?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

Doing some more googling around, it looks like there are some online course 
prep 'schools'  They're all <$300 and guarantee passing the 
test.  That doesn't seem too bad.   Now, how to choose which one.

On 9/4/2020 1:04 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
> reviewer is the PIC...
>
> On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> Found the process:
>>
>> For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR 
>> part 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which 
>> will take you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have 
>> completed a flight review within the previous 24 months.
>>
>> Crap, have not had a medical in years...
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>>
>> That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly 
>> even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license 
>> but it does have other things attached to it.
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
>>> commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need 
>>> commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I 
>>> dropped it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have 
>>> been told that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.
>>> Not sure if that is even true.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
>>> To: Animal Farm
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>>>
>>> I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. 
>>> If I understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a 
>>> commercial flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need 
>>> the commercial license.
>>>
>>> The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the 
>>> 'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to 
>>> psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial 
>>> aeronautical knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned 
>>> Aircraft General - Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually 
>>> need to pass?  Many people here are pilots, what are good resources 
>>> to study/practice for the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their 
>>> drone license. How big of a deal is it?
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[chuck]

Maybe they "know sumbuddy"...

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 5:31 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

What does "guarantee" mean?

Maybe if you fail the test, you can take the course again for free?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

Doing some more googling around, it looks like there are some online course 
prep 'schools'  They're all <$300 and guarantee passing the

test.  That doesn't seem too bad.   Now, how to choose which one.

On 9/4/2020 1:04 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the
reviewer is the PIC...

On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:

For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR
part 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which
will take you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have
completed a flight review within the previous 24 months.

Crap, have not had a medical in years...

-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly
even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license
but it does have other things attached to it.


On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need
commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I
dropped it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have
been told that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.
Not sure if that is even true.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license.
If I understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a
commercial flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need
the commercial license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial
aeronautical knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned
Aircraft General - Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually
need to pass?  Many people here are pilots, what are good resources
to study/practice for the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their
drone license. How big of a deal is it?

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Robert]

So you want to fly again..  Please let me know what state first so I can 
avoid it...   JK, it was one of the true joys of my life...


On 9/4/20 4:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Nice, no EKG.  I wonder if having a DOT medical card would be roughly 
equivalent to the CMEC.  In otherwords do I still have to see an 
airmans medical examiner or can my DOT doctor do it?

*From:* Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2020 2:47 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
A couple of things have changed since you last had a medical.
You can now do ‘BasicMed’ to satisfy the FCC requirement:


What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?

 1. Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S.
driver's license, have held a medical after July 14, 2006).
 2. Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the
Comprehensive Medical Examination Checklist
 3. Complete a BasicMed medical education course;
 4. Go fly!

As a CFI I can complete a BFR with you while acting as PIC for the 
flight, meaning  you do not have to have a current medical to complete.
Once you (as a certified pilot) complete the online course you can 
take that certification to any CFI to certify your application to get 
your ‘remote pilot’ license.
Your private certificate does not cover you to fly a drone (remote 
pilot in FAA terms).

Mark

On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Robert Andrews  
wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If 
the reviewer is the PIC...


On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:
For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR 
part 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which 
will take you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have 
completed a flight review within the previous 24 months.

Crap, have not had a medical in years...
-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to 
fly even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot 
license but it does have other things attached to it.

On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need 
commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I 
dropped it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have 
been told that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.  
Not sure if that is even true.


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com   At psiexams.com 
 they don't have a 'initial aeronautical

knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How 
big of

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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Mark Radabaugh]

Any doctor you can get to fill out the form works.  It does not need to be an 
AME.   A lot of FAA AME’s were pissed when they came out with BasicMed because 
they don’t make any money anymore.

Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
22690 Pemberville Rd
Luckey, OH 43443
419-261-5996

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 7:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice, no EKG.  I wonder if having a DOT medical card would be roughly 
> equivalent to the CMEC.  In otherwords do I still have to see an airmans 
> medical examiner or can my DOT doctor do it?
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:47 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>  
> A couple of things have changed since you last had a medical.
>  
> You can now do ‘BasicMed’ to satisfy the FCC requirement:
>  
> What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?
> Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S. driver's 
> license, have held a medical after July 14, 2006).
> Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the Comprehensive 
> Medical Examination Checklist
> Complete a BasicMed medical education course;
> Go fly!
>  
>  
> As a CFI I can complete a BFR with you while acting as PIC for the flight, 
> meaning  you do not have to have a current medical to complete.
>  
> Once you (as a certified pilot) complete the online course you can take that 
> certification to any CFI to certify your application to get your ‘remote 
> pilot’ license.
>  
> Your private certificate does not cover you to fly a drone (remote pilot in 
> FAA terms).
>  
> Mark
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>  
>> Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the 
>> reviewer is the PIC...
>> 
>> On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> Found the process:
>>> For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 
>>> 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take 
>>> you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight 
>>> review within the previous 24 months.
>>> Crap, have not had a medical in years...
>>> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
>>> That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
>>> though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does 
>>> have other things attached to it.
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
 
 I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing 
 commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial 
 for the incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know 
 nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can 
 legally fly drones due to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even 
 true.
 
 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
 
 I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
 understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
 flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
 license.
 
 The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
 'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
 psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
 knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
 Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
 people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
 the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
 a deal is it?
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Ken Hohhof]

As long as he doesn’t use balloons (like David Blaine) or a kite (like that 3 
year old girl in Taiwan) or a jetpack (like the LA guy buzzing commercial 
planes).

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 7:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

 

So you want to fly again..  Please let me know what state first so I can avoid 
it...   JK, it was one of the true joys of my life...

On 9/4/20 4:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Nice, no EKG.  I wonder if having a DOT medical card would be roughly 
equivalent to the CMEC.  In otherwords do I still have to see an airmans 
medical examiner or can my DOT doctor do it?

 

From: Mark Radabaugh 

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:47 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

 

A couple of things have changed since you last had a medical. 

 

You can now do ‘BasicMed’ to satisfy the FCC requirement:

 


What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?


1. Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S. driver's 
license, have held a medical after July 14, 2006). 

2. Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the 
Comprehensive Medical Examination Checklist 

3. Complete a BasicMed medical education course; 

4. Go fly!

 

 

As a CFI I can complete a BFR with you while acting as PIC for the flight, 
meaning  you do not have to have a current medical to complete.

 

Once you (as a certified pilot) complete the online course you can take that 
certification to any CFI to certify your application to get your ‘remote pilot’ 
license.

 

Your private certificate does not cover you to fly a drone (remote pilot in FAA 
terms).

 

Mark





On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

 

Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the reviewer 
is the PIC...

On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:



Found the process:
For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR part 61, 
You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which will take you about 
two hours to complete. Note that you must have completed a flight review within 
the previous 24 months.
Crap, have not had a medical in years...
-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing
That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly even 
though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license but it does have 
other things attached to it.



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing commercial 
ground school once but realized I really didn't need commercial for the 
incidental business flying I was doing so I dropped it.  I know nothing about 
drone operations or regs.  I have been told that I can legally fly drones due 
to my regular license.  Not sure if that is even true.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license. If I
understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a commercial
flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need the commercial
license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com    At psiexams.com   
they don't have a 'initial aeronautical
knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned Aircraft General -
Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually need to pass?  Many
people here are pilots, what are good resources to study/practice for
the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their drone license.  How big of
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Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

[Nate Burke]

I think the caveat was you had to score over an 85% on their practice 
tests.  One of them would pay you $150 if you failed, another one would 
pay your re-test fee.


On 9/4/2020 6:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What does "guarantee" mean?

Maybe if you fail the test, you can take the course again for free?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

Doing some more googling around, it looks like there are some online course prep 
'schools'  They're all <$300 and guarantee passing the
test.  That doesn't seem too bad.   Now, how to choose which one.

On 9/4/2020 1:04 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Hmmm, I wonder if a flight review requires a current medical?   If the
reviewer is the PIC...

On 09/04/2020 10:23 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Found the process:

For people who already hold a pilot certificate issued under 14 CFR
part 61, You simply need to complete the FAA’s online course, which
will take you about two hours to complete. Note that you must have
completed a flight review within the previous 24 months.

Crap, have not had a medical in years...

-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

That is absolutely not true. You need a UAS license to be able to fly
even though the testing is very similar to a private pilot license
but it does have other things attached to it.


On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am a private pilot with an instrument rating.  I started doing
commercial ground school once but realized I really didn't need
commercial for the incidental business flying I was doing so I
dropped it.  I know nothing about drone operations or regs.  I have
been told that I can legally fly drones due to my regular license.
Not sure if that is even true.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Drone licensing

I was looking through the FAA Requirements to get a drone license.
If I understand correctly, if you use the drone in any way as a
commercial flight, I.E. taking pictures of a tower, then you need
the commercial license.

The FAA Website talks about going to a testing facility to Pass the
'initial aeronautical knowledge test'.  The FAA links out to
psiexams.com  At psiexams.com they don't have a 'initial
aeronautical knowledge test' listed, but they do have a 'Unmanned
Aircraft General - Small (UAG)'.  Is this the test that you actually
need to pass?  Many people here are pilots, what are good resources
to study/practice for the tests?  Has anyone recently  gotten their
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[AFMUG] OT - NewsNation

[Ken Hohhof]

Has anyone been watching the new NewsNation from WGN America?

 

Unlike previous cable news shows that promised unbiased news and were
actually verging on propaganda, I've find it is totally unbiased, in fact it
steers totally clear of controversy.  Just the facts, Ma'am.  Not an iota of
bias or political slant.

 

But so far I'm finding it boring.  It should be exactly what I want, no Fox
News or MSNBC or OAN or CNN bias.  Maybe I am so tired of the current topics
in the news I just don't want to hear about it, bias or not.

 

Or maybe they just need a little time to fine tune.  It seems like they
threw out any personality along with the bias.  Even Walter Cronkite or
Huntley and Brinkley brought some personality and personal quirks.  And
that's the way it is.  Good night Chet.  Good night David.

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