date:20200711

[AFMUG] 450i/450m DFS false detect problem solved in later firmware?

2020-07-11 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

I'm working with a customer that is having problems with DFS false hits who
is convinced this is a PacketFlux sync issue.   I'm never one to say it
definitively isn't my problem, but I'm skeptical in this case.

I know that at some point in the past that anything beyond 15.0.2 was known
to have fairly common DFS issues by some customers.   I thought this was
resolved in later releases, but I also don't see any mention of said issue
being resolved in any release notes post 15.0.02.

I was wondering if anyone knew the current status?  I.E. if they had been
seeing the problem previously, and then discovered it was fixed.  Or have
tried recent releases and discovered the problem still exists, etc...

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Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

2020-07-11 Thread Robert


Also handy for dragging victims along with you...

On 7/11/20 12:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I have been making my crew handhole hooks for some time.  I came up 
with a real nice method.


Buy one of these:
https://www.raneystruckparts.com/chrome-31-fifth-wheel-pin-puller/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzYqByfLF6gIVC9vACh27nQcDEAQYASABEgJ8wPD_BwE 



Local truck stops frequently stock them.

Put the hook end in a vice and put a large box end wrench or a pipe 
wrench over the T handle and twist it 90 degrees.


Then, with the vice, open the hook up about maybe 30 degrees.  Not too 
much but more than it is stock.


Then take an angle or bench grinder and put a chisel point on it so 
you can whack it into the slot that is always full of dirt.

You might also grind the sides a bit to narrow them.

They are light and easy to throw in the trunk of a car or behind a 
pickup seat.  Cheap enough that everyone can have one.

And super easy to make if you should lose or break one.

Have not broke one yet.  The cheaper ones don't have the little leg 
sticking out the back.  Sometimes that leg is nice to push a lid back 
into place.




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Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

2020-07-11 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Those look like the ones I use down in the dungeon.


bp



On 7/11/2020 12:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:

I
  have been making my crew handhole hooks for some time.  I came up
  with a real nice method.
  
  
  Buy one of these:
  
https://www.raneystruckparts.com/chrome-31-fifth-wheel-pin-puller/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzYqByfLF6gIVC9vACh27nQcDEAQYASABEgJ8wPD_BwE
  
  
  Local truck stops frequently stock them.
  
  
  Put the hook end in a vice and put a large box end wrench or a
  pipe wrench over the T handle and twist it 90 degrees.
  
  
  Then, with the vice, open the hook up about maybe 30 degrees.  Not
  too much but more than it is stock.
  
  
  Then take an angle or bench grinder and put a chisel point on it
  so you can whack it into the slot that is always full of dirt.
  
  You might also grind the sides a bit to narrow them.
  
  
  They are light and easy to throw in the trunk of a car or behind a
  pickup seat.  Cheap enough that everyone can have one.
  
  And super easy to make if you should lose or break one.
  
  
  Have not broke one yet.  The cheaper ones don't have the little
  leg sticking out the back.  Sometimes that leg is nice to push a
  lid back into place. 
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

2020-07-11 Thread chuck

If you swung it just right at the back of the neck, you could snatch out the 
spinal cord.  That would probably slow down you attacker.   

From: Robert 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

Also handy for dragging victims along with you...

On 7/11/20 12:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I have been making my crew handhole hooks for some time.  I came up with a 
real nice method. 

  Buy one of these: 

https://www.raneystruckparts.com/chrome-31-fifth-wheel-pin-puller/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzYqByfLF6gIVC9vACh27nQcDEAQYASABEgJ8wPD_BwE

  Local truck stops frequently stock them. 

  Put the hook end in a vice and put a large box end wrench or a pipe wrench 
over the T handle and twist it 90 degrees. 

  Then, with the vice, open the hook up about maybe 30 degrees.  Not too much 
but more than it is stock. 

  Then take an angle or bench grinder and put a chisel point on it so you can 
whack it into the slot that is always full of dirt. 
  You might also grind the sides a bit to narrow them. 

  They are light and easy to throw in the trunk of a car or behind a pickup 
seat.  Cheap enough that everyone can have one. 
  And super easy to make if you should lose or break one. 

  Have not broke one yet.  The cheaper ones don't have the little leg sticking 
out the back.  Sometimes that leg is nice to push a lid back into place. 

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[AFMUG] WiFi Coverage in Home

2020-07-11 Thread Matt

I always use MikroTik routers. I assume it is all noise etc but it seems
like I have an issue with getting throughput on my front porch etc. What is
everyone’s favorite router for home use? Using hap ac now.
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Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Coverage in Home

2020-07-11 Thread Nate Burke

I put Cambium E410's at my house and the Boss's house.  Don't have to 
field complaints from the Wife or Him anymore.


On 7/11/2020 6:12 PM, Matt wrote:
I always use MikroTik routers. I assume it is all noise etc but it 
seems like I have an issue with getting throughput on my front porch 
etc. What is everyone’s favorite router for home use? Using hap ac now.






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Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett


Had to rewatch ityou're absolutely right.

Hopefully the effects guys only gave him the one blank.


On 7/10/2020 2:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Will's muzzle discipline is concerning.


Charles Boening wrote:


LOL. Love that movie!

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*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 10:49 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

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Maybe this should be a police training video:

https://youtu.be/K3hAVT2sDqQ

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*On Behalf Of *Charles Boening

*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:22 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other officer.  
A taser that hadn’t been fired.  He turned and shot that taser at the 
office which prompted the office to shoot back.  You can see that in 
the video.


Not saying it was justified or not.  Just the fact that the suspect 
even though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the officer.


As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is 
running away and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm 
towards the officer giving chase. You can still have your back to the 
officer giving chase yet present a threat to that officer.


Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is a 
training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high.  Also note that 
you can’t tell what kind of weapon the suspect has.  Is it real or 
fake?  Can’t really tell.


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*On Behalf Of *Bill Prince

*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

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I think every situation is different. I also believe the police, in 
general, have been given more slack than they should for quite some 
time. The issue is how to deal with this. I do not envy cops. I have 
a nephew who is a cop, and I worry about him all the time.


One of the more recent cases was an individual who was resisting 
arrest. He grabbed, and fired a taser. As I understand it, most 
tasers are one-and-done. IOW, once the taser has been fired, the only 
"weapon" characteristics it has are as a thrown projectile. That 
individual was running away, and was shot in the back. Was that 
justified? I would have a hard time accepting that as a justified 
homicide. But that is only one example.


With the proliferation of cameras everywhere, this sort of thing is 
going to come up more and more.


bp


On 7/10/2020 9:32 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

    I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law
    enforcement.

    And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear
    answers.

    A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported
    armed robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running.

    He drops what appears to be a gun, picks it up and keeps running,
    should he be shot?

    I understand that he may take a hostage or start shooting or
    whatever.  He may turn the gun on the cops.

    I remember old cop and robber movies when I was a kid where the
    cop would yell “stop or I’ll shoot”.

    We had the above situation happen here in Utah a while back.  Cops
    were found to have done no wrong.

    People are understandably upset.

    A few years ago, a young man playing with a sword was stopped by
    cops, he took off running with the sword and they shot and killed 
him.


    I presume the same justifications apply.

    I wonder how often someone with a weapon does harm after evading
    the cops.

    I wonder how other countries confront the same problem.

    If a human gets scared and runs due to uncontrolled fear, should
    they be shot?

    I was only truly scared once in my life.  Was in a bank robbery.

    I understand that your rational thinking goes out the window a bit
    when you are really scared.







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Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Coverage in Home

2020-07-11 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
We have a wired Mikrotik back at the hub, and a single Unify
  saucer that provides WiFi to almost all of the home (~~ 2800 sq
  ft). It is "not quite" centrally located, and screwed to the wall
  above the doorway in a utility room.



bp



On 7/11/2020 4:12 PM, Matt wrote:


  
  I always use MikroTik routers. I assume it is all
noise etc but it seems like I have an issue with getting
throughput on my front porch etc. What is everyone’s favorite
router for home use? Using hap ac now. 
  
  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett

Varies by state.

In NY it's the other way around. You can carry pepper spray for self
defense, but typical bear spray exceeds the legal limit on capsaicin
concentration. This was slightly amusing when the NY DEC advised
campers and hikers to carry bear spray in the North Country. Apparently
the forest rangers and other state agents CAN carry bear spray, but
someone at the DEC was unaware that the rest of us plebeians aren't
allowed to have it.

On 7/10/2020 3:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
According to this, pepper spray is illegal, but bear spray is not.
That said, if you use it as a weapon, you are probably going to be
charged.

https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/whats-the-difference-between-bear-spray-and-pepper-spray/

On 7/10/2020 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Can you legally use that on people?

Bill Prince wrote:

My wife is a big advocate of bear spray (Industrial strength pepper
spray). I do not know what the long term risks are to exposure to
this stuff, but the nice thing is that it can shoot a fairly long
distance (up to 40') and you can correct for aim while you're
spraying. The one she has is Counter Assault.

https://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-CA-18H-SB-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1594408467&sr=8-2

On 7/10/2020 11:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
If you have your fight or flight mechanism triggered, I don’t think
you should lose your life just because you reacted out of fear.
But man, how do you write regulations around these things and how
do you condition cops to not protect their own lives in certain
situations too.

They also get scared
Tough one. Great Britain banned beat cops from carrying handguns
years ago. Not sure if that is still in effect.
A really effective less than lethal would be great. Perhaps
something that rends someone temporarily blind or confused or
unconscious.
Maybe the right frequency of microwaves modulated at some kind of
brain wave frequency could do it.

Anyone want to volunteer for testing?
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now
done). He then broke away and started running. Officer shot him in
the back a long time after the taser had been discharged. Doesn't
matter what he did with the taser at that point because it had been
discharged.

On 7/10/2020 10:21 AM, Charles Boening wrote:

In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other
officer. A taser that hadn’t been fired. He turned and shot that
taser at the office which prompted the office to shoot back. You
can see that in the video.

Not saying it was justified or not. Just the fact that the
suspect even though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the officer.

As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is
running away and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm
towards the officer giving chase. You can still have your back to
the officer giving chase yet present a threat to that officer.

Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is a
training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high. Also note that
you can’t tell what kind of weapon the suspect has. Is it real or
fake? Can’t really tell.

*Charles Boening*

/Network Manager/

800-858-2399 | Office

charl...@calore.net

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*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking
links, or sharing sensitive information.

I think every situation is different. I also believe the police,
in general, have been given more slack than they should for quite
some time. The issue is how to deal with this. I do not envy cops.
I have a nephew who is a cop, and I worry about him all the time.

One of the more recent cases was an individual who was resisting
arrest. He grabbed, and fired a taser. As I understand it, most
tasers are one-and-done. IOW, once the taser has been fired, the
only "weapon" characteristics it has are as a thrown projectile.
That individual was running away, and was shot in the back. Was
that justified? I would have a hard time accepting that as a
justified homicide. But that is only one example.

With the proliferation of cameras everywhere, this sort of thing
is going to come up more and more.

On 7/10/2020 9:32 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law
enforcement.

And perhaps this is a broader philosophical

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Bill Prince

According to this,
bear spray has a lower concentration ofoleoresin capsicum than
pepper spray.

On 7/11/2020 5:08 PM, Adam Moffett
wrote:

Varies
by state.

In NY it's the other way around. You can carry pepper spray for
self defense, but typical bear spray exceeds the legal limit on
capsaicin concentration. This was slightly amusing when the NY
DEC advised campers and hikers to carry bear spray in the North
Country. Apparently the forest rangers and other state agents CAN
carry bear spray, but someone at the DEC was unaware that the rest
of us plebeians aren't allowed to have it.

On 7/10/2020 3:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

According to this, pepper spray is
illegal, but bear spray is not. That said, if you use it as a
weapon, you are probably going to be charged.

https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/whats-the-difference-between-bear-spray-and-pepper-spray/

On 7/10/2020 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Can you legally use that on people?

Bill Prince wrote:

My wife is a big advocate of bear spray (Industrial strength
pepper spray). I do not know what the long term risks are to
exposure to this stuff, but the nice thing is that it can
shoot a fairly long distance (up to 40') and you can correct
for aim while you're spraying. The one she has is Counter
Assault.

https://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-CA-18H-SB-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1594408467&sr=8-2

On 7/10/2020 11:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

If you have your fight or flight
mechanism triggered, I don’t think you should lose your
life just because you reacted out of fear.

But man, how do you write regulations around these things
and how do you condition cops to not protect their own
lives in certain situations too.

They also get scared

Tough one. Great Britain banned beat cops from carrying
handguns years ago. Not sure if that is still in effect.

A really effective less than lethal would be great.
Perhaps something that rends someone temporarily blind or
confused or unconscious.

Maybe the right frequency of microwaves modulated at some
kind of brain wave frequency could do it.

Anyone want to volunteer for testing?

*From:* Bill Prince

*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM

*To:* af@af.afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger
warning

He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser
is now done). He then broke away and started running.
Officer shot him in the back a long time after the taser
had been discharged. Doesn't matter what he did with the
taser at that point because it had been discharged.

On 7/10/2020 10:21 AM, Charles Boening wrote:

In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the
other officer. A taser that hadn’t been fired. He
turned and shot that taser at the office which prompted
the office to shoot back. You can see that in the
video.

Not saying it was justified or not. Just the fact that
the suspect even though fleeing, turned and shot a
weapon at the officer.

As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the
suspect is running away and turns their torso a bit then
extends their arm towards the officer giving chase. You
can still have your back to the officer giving chase yet
present a threat to that officer.

Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight
and is a training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as
high. Also note that you c

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett

According to this
,
bear spray is stronger. Maybe they're both true. I'm sure more than
one specific product falls under the heading of "bear spray".'

On 7/11/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

According to this
,
bear spray has a lower concentration ofoleoresin capsicum than pepper
spray.

On 7/11/2020 5:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Varies by state.

In NY it's the other way around. You can carry pepper spray for self
defense, but typical bear spray exceeds the legal limit on capsaicin
concentration. This was slightly amusing when the NY DEC advised
campers and hikers to carry bear spray in the North Country.
Apparently the forest rangers and other state agents CAN carry bear
spray, but someone at the DEC was unaware that the rest of us
plebeians aren't allowed to have it.

On 7/10/2020 3:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
According to this, pepper spray is illegal, but bear spray is not.
That said, if you use it as a weapon, you are probably going to be
charged.

https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/whats-the-difference-between-bear-spray-and-pepper-spray/

On 7/10/2020 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Can you legally use that on people?

Bill Prince wrote:

My wife is a big advocate of bear spray (Industrial strength
pepper spray). I do not know what the long term risks are to
exposure to this stuff, but the nice thing is that it can shoot a
fairly long distance (up to 40') and you can correct for aim while
you're spraying. The one she has is Counter Assault.

https://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-CA-18H-SB-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1594408467&sr=8-2

On 7/10/2020 11:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
If you have your fight or flight mechanism triggered, I don’t
think you should lose your life just because you reacted out of
fear.
But man, how do you write regulations around these things and how
do you condition cops to not protect their own lives in certain
situations too.

Anyone want to volunteer for testing?
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now
done). He then broke away and started running. Officer shot him
in the back a long time after the taser had been discharged.
Doesn't matter what he did with the taser at that point because
it had been discharged.

On 7/10/2020 10:21 AM, Charles Boening wrote:

In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other
officer. A taser that hadn’t been fired. He turned and shot
that taser at the office which prompted the office to shoot
back. You can see that in the video.

Not saying it was justified or not. Just the fact that the
suspect even though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the
officer.

As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is
running away and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm
towards the officer giving chase. You can still have your back
to the officer giving chase yet present a threat to that officer.

Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is
a training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high. Also note
that you can’t tell what kind of weapon the suspect has. Is it
real or fake? Can’t really tell.

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Prince

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*To:* af@af.afmug.com
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EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking
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I think every situation is different. I also believe the police,
in general, have been given more slack than they should for
quite some time. The issue is how to deal with this. I do not
envy cops. I have a nephew who is a cop, and I worry about him
all the time.

One of the more recent cases was an individual who was resisting
arrest. He grabbed, and fired a taser. As I un

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Chuck McCown

Sounds stronger.  Rather have an air burst bear spray round for a handgun,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> 
> According to this, bear spray is stronger.  Maybe they're both true.  I'm 
> sure more than one specific product falls under the heading of "bear spray".'
> 
> On 7/11/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> According to this, bear spray has a lower concentration ofoleoresin capsicum 
>> than pepper spray.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bp
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/11/2020 5:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> Varies by state. 
>>> 
>>> In NY it's the other way around.  You can carry pepper spray for self 
>>> defense, but typical bear spray exceeds the legal limit on capsaicin 
>>> concentration.  This was slightly amusing when the NY DEC advised campers 
>>> and hikers to carry bear spray in the North Country.  Apparently the forest 
>>> rangers and other state agents CAN carry bear spray, but someone at the DEC 
>>> was unaware that the rest of us plebeians aren't allowed to have it. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/10/2020 3:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 
 According to this, pepper spray is illegal, but bear spray is not. That 
 said, if you use it as a weapon, you are probably going to be charged. 
 
 https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/whats-the-difference-between-bear-spray-and-pepper-spray/
  
 
 bp 
  
 
 On 7/10/2020 12:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: 
> Can you legally use that on people? 
> 
> Bill Prince wrote: 
>> 
>> My wife is a big advocate of bear spray (Industrial strength pepper 
>> spray). I do not know what the long term risks are to exposure to this 
>> stuff, but the nice thing is that it can shoot a fairly long distance 
>> (up to 40') and you can correct for aim while you're spraying. The one 
>> she has is Counter Assault. 
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-CA-18H-SB-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1594408467&sr=8-2
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> bp 
>>  
>> 
>> On 7/10/2020 11:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 
>>> If you have your fight or flight mechanism triggered, I don’t think you 
>>> should lose your life just because you reacted out of fear. 
>>> But man, how do you write regulations around these things and how do 
>>> you condition cops to not protect their own lives in certain situations 
>>> too. 
>>> They also get scared 
>>> Tough one.  Great Britain banned beat cops from carrying handguns years 
>>> ago.  Not sure if that is still in effect. 
>>> A really effective less than lethal  would be great. Perhaps something 
>>> that rends someone temporarily blind or confused or unconscious. 
>>> Maybe the right frequency of microwaves modulated at some kind of brain 
>>> wave frequency could do it. 
>>> Anyone want to volunteer for testing? 
>>> *From:* Bill Prince 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM 
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning 
>>> 
>>> He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now done). 
>>> He then broke away and started running. Officer shot him in the back a 
>>> long time after the taser had been discharged. Doesn't matter what he 
>>> did with the taser at that point because it had been discharged. 
>>> 
>>> bp 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 7/10/2020 10:21 AM, Charles Boening wrote: 
 
 In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other officer.  
 A taser that hadn’t been fired. He turned and shot that taser at the 
 office which prompted the office to shoot back.  You can see that in 
 the video. 
 
 Not saying it was justified or not.  Just the fact that the suspect 
 even though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the officer. 
 
 As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is running 
 away and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm towards the 
 officer giving chase.  You can still have your back to the officer 
 giving chase yet present a threat to that officer. 
 
 Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is a 
 training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high. Also note that you 
 can’t tell what kind of weapon the suspect has.  Is it real or fake? 
 Can’t really tell. 
 
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Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

2020-07-11 Thread Jaime Solorza

Somehow I believe you about dungeon ...lol

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020, 2:37 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Those look like the ones I use down in the dungeon.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 7/11/2020 12:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I have been making my crew handhole hooks for some time.  I came up with a
> real nice method.
>
> Buy one of these:
>
> https://www.raneystruckparts.com/chrome-31-fifth-wheel-pin-puller/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzYqByfLF6gIVC9vACh27nQcDEAQYASABEgJ8wPD_BwE
>
> Local truck stops frequently stock them.
>
> Put the hook end in a vice and put a large box end wrench or a pipe wrench
> over the T handle and twist it 90 degrees.
>
> Then, with the vice, open the hook up about maybe 30 degrees.  Not too
> much but more than it is stock.
>
> Then take an angle or bench grinder and put a chisel point on it so you
> can whack it into the slot that is always full of dirt.
> You might also grind the sides a bit to narrow them.
>
> They are light and easy to throw in the trunk of a car or behind a pickup
> seat.  Cheap enough that everyone can have one.
> And super easy to make if you should lose or break one.
>
> Have not broke one yet.  The cheaper ones don't have the little leg
> sticking out the back.  Sometimes that leg is nice to push a lid back into
> place.
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Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Coverage in Home

2020-07-11 Thread Ryan Ray

I use a Calix844e and E410's as well

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 4:59 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> We have a wired Mikrotik back at the hub, and a single Unify saucer that
> provides WiFi to almost all of the home (~~ 2800 sq ft). It is "not quite"
> centrally located, and screwed to the wall above the doorway in a utility
> room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 7/11/2020 4:12 PM, Matt wrote:
>
> I always use MikroTik routers. I assume it is all noise etc but it seems
> like I have an issue with getting throughput on my front porch etc. What is
> everyone’s favorite router for home use? Using hap ac now.
>
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