date:20200518

Thanks Lewis.  I might take you up on that.
Looking something that comes with an on screen display for the channel guide.  
Some of them seem to hint there is some kind of pseudo open google guide that 
they integrate with.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 6:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what Walmart 
sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship you one. It 
has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per display thing 
we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they were 
maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another $85 or 
so. 

We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR. 
Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when the 
streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. 
Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is 
handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which 
counts for a lot.

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

  I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on a 
PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.

  On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want 
to spend the money for another one.  
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit 
that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.  
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to 
your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need something 
there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
does for me.  

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[AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Kerry Penland



Hey guys,
I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
Towercoverage.

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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

https://members.wispa.org/members/directory/search_bootstrap.php?org_id=WISP

WISPA has a member search page.  If you click the link above and then
select Ohio there’s about 20 members who serve Ohio.

-Sean



On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:35 AM Kerry Penland  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
> I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
> OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
> educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
> finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
> difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
> this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
> Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
> over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
> towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
> I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
> Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
> Towercoverage.
>
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> Kerry Penland
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[AFMUG] Shielded Cat-5 Tester

2020-05-18 Thread Matt

What is everyone using for a durable field cat-5 tester?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


  
  
Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking
  about?
Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners,
  and is described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI;
  presumably you need a smart TV or some other thing to stream
  things over the local LAN. It does require an external drive, but
  does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream from
  off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".


bp



On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman
  wrote:


  
  I have several Channel Masters with the external
drive. Probably what Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send
me your address and I'll ship you one. It has a smart TV app. In
the end I think it was that it was a per display thing we
replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say
they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever
size added another $85 or so.


We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the
  Amazon OTA DVR. Having said that, it seems to require
  rebooting about every 6 weeks when the streaming locks up. I
  should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. Other
  than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to
  Amazon Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple
  enough for the wife to use, which counts for a lot.
  
  
  
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59
  PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:


  
I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the
  recording software on a PC or it integrates with most DVR
  platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.




On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit
working and I didn’t want to spend the money for
another one.  
  I switched to airTV and then converted it to
Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not always record what
you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
local channels and the audio level is much higher
than all my other hdmi inputs like Roku.
   
  So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart
has a really low cost unit that can record if you
connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
etc.  
  Does not stream over you network, you will have
to have it connected to your display.  And you will
have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV
has not exactly been flawless.
   
  Anyone using anything else they really like?  One
of my larger spots in the house to watch TV has a
large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
something there.  I would like something with a
channel guide so that is one thing Sling does for
me.  

  
  
  

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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

In theory, the FCC broadband map should help, but it has some issues.
https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/#/

Either there are no WISPs in that part of Ohio, or they don't file Form 477,
or the FCC data is out of date.  If I search in the Toledo area, Amplex
shows up.  If I search in Ashland where my wife grew up, a little local WISP
shows up.  But over by West Virginia, not much.

Searching for towers won't help much because they exist for many purposes,
not just wireless Internet, plus WISPs may be on structures that most people
wouldn't consider a "tower", like grain elevators or buildings or silos.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Kerry Penland
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.


Hey guys,
I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw this
out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
Towercoverage.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Lewis Bergman

This one has the OSD with channel guide. Not sure how it does it, but it
does have it.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:09 AM  wrote:

> Thanks Lewis.  I might take you up on that.
> Looking something that comes with an on screen display for the channel
> guide.  Some of them seem to hint there is some kind of pseudo open google
> guide that they integrate with.
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 6:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>
> I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what
> Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship
> you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per
> display thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want
> to say they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size
> added another $85 or so.
>
> We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR.
> Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when
> the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at
> 4AM. Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon
> Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to
> use, which counts for a lot.
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on
>> a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t
>> want to spend the money for another one.
>> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
>> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
>> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
>> inputs like Roku.
>>
>> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
>> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
>> etc.
>> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
>> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
>> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
>> flawless.
>>
>> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
>> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
>> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
>> one thing Sling does for me.
>>
>> --
>>
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>> VP Engineering
>> 3DS Communications LLC
>> p:9729741539
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat-5 Tester

There are several levels of testers.  Do you want just a basic wiremap
tester that finds shorts, opens and miswires?  Something a little more
advanced that maybe includes wire length, distance to fault, etc.  Or a full
blown qualifier that will test for crosstalk, return loss, etc. and certify
to Cat 5/6/7 specs?  Usually the last category requires periodic calibration
and can produce reports that you submit to a customer proving the wiring
meets the required specs.

I've got a Fluke MicroScanner which is kind of an advanced wiremap tester.
It tests all 8 wires plus shield, and can display wire length and distance
to fault.  It is definitely not a cable qualifier.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat-5 Tester

What is everyone using for a durable field cat-5 tester?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Jaime Solorza

My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses
Nehfleece more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more
Mexican channels which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and
PBS mostly for entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in
Spanish for news ...I  watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news
outlets... interesting perspectives...

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM  wrote:

> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want
> to spend the money for another one.
> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
> inputs like Roku.
>
> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
> etc.
> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
> flawless.
>
> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
> one thing Sling does for me.
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[AFMUG] CBS Streaming NOC Contact

2020-05-18 Thread Jesse DuPont


  
  
Good morning! Does anyone have a contact email for CBS streaming's
NOC? We're struggling with what appear to be geo-location issues
with some of our IP blocks. We seem to be showing correctly at the
geo-location providers, but still having some CBS All Access
streaming issues. We change IP at the customer and it's okay after
that.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread James Howard

And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts……

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses Nehfleece 
more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more Mexican channels 
which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and PBS mostly for 
entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in Spanish for news ...I 
 watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news outlets... interesting 
perspectives...

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one.
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need something 
there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Lewis Bergman

I had a Tablo for a while. At least I think that is what it was. I need to
look. Very intermittent requiring lots of reboots, decent channel guide.

This is what I bought from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J6A6H74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?
>
> Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is
> described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a
> smart TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does
> require an external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you
> want to stream from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial
> skip".
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what
> Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship
> you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per
> display thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want
> to say they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size
> added another $85 or so.
>
> We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR.
> Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when
> the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at
> 4AM. Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon
> Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to
> use, which counts for a lot.
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on
>> a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t
>> want to spend the money for another one.
>> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
>> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
>> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
>> inputs like Roku.
>>
>> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
>> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
>> etc.
>> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
>> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
>> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
>> flawless.
>>
>> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
>> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
>> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
>> one thing Sling does for me.
>>
>> --
>>
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>> VP Engineering
>> 3DS Communications LLC
>> p:9729741539
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yep...I got caught yesterday...damn

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James Howard  wrote:

> And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts……
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>
>
>
> My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses
> Nehfleece more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more
> Mexican channels which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and
> PBS mostly for entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in
> Spanish for news ...I  watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news
> outlets... interesting perspectives...
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM  wrote:
>
> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want
> to spend the money for another one.
>
> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
> inputs like Roku.
>
>
>
> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
> etc.
>
> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
> flawless.
>
>
>
> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
> one thing Sling does for me.
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Re: [AFMUG] CBS Streaming NOC Contact

I would post this to the NANOG list

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> We're struggling with what appear to be geo-location issues with some of
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Re: [AFMUG] CBS Streaming NOC Contact

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Hammett

Once you figure it out, let me know so I can add it to our list. 


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ 




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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:17:05 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] CBS Streaming NOC Contact 

Good morning! Does anyone have a contact email for CBS streaming's NOC? We're 
struggling with what appear to be geo-location issues with some of our IP 
blocks. We seem to be showing correctly at the geo-location providers, but 
still having some CBS All Access streaming issues. We change IP at the customer 
and it's okay after that. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF

I use a HDHomeRun Quattro, with Plex.  It records what I want to and can watch 
whatever is record etc.   Works quite well.  As long as you have a decent 
server.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on a PC 
or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.




On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one.
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need something 
there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
does for me.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Given that the weather forecast is usually wrong, I guess they might as well 
provide some eye candy.

 

The most revered TV weather person here in Chicago is Tom Skilling, who is 
definitely not a weather girl or eye candy.  I remember when I was a kid, I was 
interested in weather, and would watch P.J. Hoff on the TV.  He would hand draw 
maps on brown wrapping paper, with animated features like the sun moving across 
the map as he pulled a string.  The latest technology at the time.  Kids could 
write in to get one of the used maps, which I did.  No, I don’t still have the 
map.

 

https://www.robertfeder.com/2014/09/10/remembering-p-j-hoff-chicagos-original-weatherman-with-character/

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

 

Yep...I got caught yesterday...damn

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net> > wrote:

And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts……

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

 

My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses Nehfleece 
more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more Mexican channels 
which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and PBS mostly for 
entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in Spanish for news ...I 
 watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news outlets... interesting 
perspectives...

 

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one.  

I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

 

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.  

Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

 

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need something 
there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Hammett

https://abc7chicago.com/about/newsteam/cheryl-scott/ 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:57:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers 



Given that the weather forecast is usually wrong, I guess they might as well 
provide some eye candy. 

The most revered TV weather person here in Chicago is Tom Skilling, who is 
definitely not a weather girl or eye candy. I remember when I was a kid, I was 
interested in weather, and would watch P.J. Hoff on the TV. He would hand draw 
maps on brown wrapping paper, with animated features like the sun moving across 
the map as he pulled a string. The latest technology at the time. Kids could 
write in to get one of the used maps, which I did. No, I don’t still have the 
map. 

https://www.robertfeder.com/2014/09/10/remembering-p-j-hoff-chicagos-original-weatherman-with-character/
 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:44 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers 


Yep...I got caught yesterday...damn 



On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James Howard < ja...@litewire.net > wrote: 




And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts…… 



From: AF [mailto: af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers 


My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses Nehfleece 
more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more Mexican channels 
which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and PBS mostly for 
entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in Spanish for news ...I 
watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news outlets... interesting 
perspectives... 



On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one. 

I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling. It is buggy. Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku. 



So looking again for an ATA receiver. Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive. It allows time shift etc. 

Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display. And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal. But the whole streaming 
over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been flawless. 



Anyone using anything else they really like? One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector. So I need something 
there. I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


  
  


https://www.reddit.com/r/newsbabes/comments/5agftm/christina_loren_from_san_franciscos_nbc/


bp



On 5/18/2020 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett
  wrote:


  
  
  https://abc7chicago.com/about/newsteam/cheryl-scott/


  
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From:
  "Ken Hohhof" 
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
  
  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:57:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
  
  
  
Given that the weather forecast is
  usually wrong, I guess they might as well provide some eye
  candy.
 
The most revered TV weather person here
  in Chicago is Tom Skilling, who is definitely not a
  weather girl or eye candy.  I remember when I was a kid, I
  was interested in weather, and would watch P.J. Hoff on
  the TV.  He would hand draw maps on brown wrapping paper,
  with animated features like the sun moving across the map
  as he pulled a string.  The latest technology at the
  time.  Kids could write in to get one of the used maps,
  which I did.  No, I don’t still have the map.
 
https://www.robertfeder.com/2014/09/10/remembering-p-j-hoff-chicagos-original-weatherman-with-character/
 
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Jaime
Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

 

  Yep...I got caught yesterday...damn

 

  
On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James
  Howard 
  wrote:
  
  

  
And you’re especially
attentive during the weather forecasts……
 

  
From:
  AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
  

 

  My
wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years
since she uses Nehfleece more now. I installed a
OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more Mexican
channels which get me trouble with wife!! I
watch MeTV, ION, and PBS mostly for
entertainment...there is a DW station which
broadcasts in Spanish for news ...I  watch CBS,
BBC and DW plus several Mexican news outlets...
interesting perspectives...

 

  
On
  Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM 
  wrote:
  
  

  

  
I had the tivo
for quite some time until it quit
working and I didn’t want to spend
the money for another one.  
  
  
I switched to
airTV and then converted it to
Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not
always record what you tell it to,
it will not allow fast forward on
local channels and the audio level
is much higher than all my other
hdmi inputs like Roku.
  
  
 
  
  
So looking again

Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

And amazingly she is actually good at her job, in addition to easy on the eyes. 
 But can she cook?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:00 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

https://abc7chicago.com/about/newsteam/cheryl-scott/

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From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:57:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Given that the weather forecast is usually wrong, I guess they might as well 
provide some eye candy.

The most revered TV weather person here in Chicago is Tom Skilling, who is 
definitely not a weather girl or eye candy.  I remember when I was a kid, I was 
interested in weather, and would watch P.J. Hoff on the TV.  He would hand draw 
maps on brown wrapping paper, with animated features like the sun moving across 
the map as he pulled a string.  The latest technology at the time.  Kids could 
write in to get one of the used maps, which I did.  No, I don’t still have the 
map.

https://www.robertfeder.com/2014/09/10/remembering-p-j-hoff-chicagos-original-weatherman-with-character/

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Yep...I got caught yesterday...damn

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net> > wrote:

And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts……

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses Nehfleece 
more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more Mexican channels 
which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and PBS mostly for 
entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in Spanish for news ...I 
 watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news outlets... interesting 
perspectives...

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one.  

I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.  

Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
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there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one thing Sling 
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Re: [AFMUG] EPMP and that weird ARP Failure

2020-05-18 Thread Josh Luthman

I'm assuming your SM is in bridge mode?

I'm generally in NAT mode and have not seen this ever.  I do have some
bridged units (small backhauls for example) though.

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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> We had storms roll through last night, and I had 2EPMP 1000 radios fail
> in to the 'I'm going to steal every MAC address on the AP' It's been a
> year or so without this failure, so I thought maybe it was fixed in
> firmware, but these were radios on new firmware, but they were both
> EPMP1000 units.  Is this truly a hardware failure where the switch chip
> just goes berserk?One one of the SM's I was able to get into it long
> enough to upgrade/downgrade the firmware, and it had no effect.  As soon
> as that SM linked up, every SM on the AP started having massive packet
> loss.  If you look at the 'network' tab in the AP, in the bridge table,
> every MAC Address is pointing to the defective SM's Subscriber Module
> MAC.  The only way I've found to fix it, is to either call the customer
> and have them power the unit down, or if you can get into the SM,
> disable the LAN port.  Even MAC-TELNET may not work to get to the
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Josh Luthman

Athens is Intelliwave

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:35 AM Kerry Penland  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
> I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
> OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
> educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
> finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
> difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
> this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
> Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
> over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
> towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
> I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
> Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
> Towercoverage.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?

Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is described 
as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a smart TV or some 
other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does require an external 
drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream from 
off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".

bp

On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

  I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what Walmart 
sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship you one. It 
has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per display thing 
we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they were 
maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another $85 or 
so. 

  We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR. 
Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when the 
streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. 
Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is 
handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which 
counts for a lot.

  On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on a 
PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.

On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t 
want to spend the money for another one.  
  I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does 
not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

  So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit 
that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.  
  Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to 
your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

  Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in 
the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Mathew Howard

If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked the
Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system.

I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still
make that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV
Player has the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's
basically just an AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more
reliable, and it can pause live TV.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:

> I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>
>
> Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?
>
> Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is
> described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a
> smart TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does
> require an external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you
> want to stream from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial
> skip".
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what
> Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship
> you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per
> display thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want
> to say they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size
> added another $85 or so.
>
> We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR.
> Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when
> the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at
> 4AM. Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon
> Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to
> use, which counts for a lot.
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on
>> a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t
>> want to spend the money for another one.
>> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
>> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
>> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
>> inputs like Roku.
>>
>> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
>> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
>> etc.
>> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
>> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
>> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
>> flawless.
>>
>> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
>> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
>> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
>> one thing Sling does for me.
>>
>> --
>>
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>> VP Engineering
>> 3DS Communications LLC
>> p:9729741539
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


  
  
Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The Channel
  Master has a 2 week program guide (and a search function), but is
  not a network recorder. I think the capability to be a network
  recorder is in the Channel Master, but they've never exploited it.

bp



On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard
  wrote:


  
  
If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee...
  last I looked the Amazon thing looked the most promising for a
  multi-tv system. 


I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure
  if they still make that or not). The airtv obviously has some
  problems... the AirTV Player has the same interface, but it's
  not a networked tuner (it's basically just an AndroidTV box
  with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable, and it can
  pause live TV.

  
  
  
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43
  AM 
  wrote:


  

  
I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and
  report to us.  

  
 

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

  
   


  Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV
you're talking about?
  Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it
has 4 tuners, and is described as a "whole house
DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a smart TV
or some other thing to stream things over the local
LAN. It does require an external drive, but does not
require a subscription (unless you want to stream
from off-site). It also says it has "automatic
commercial skip".
   
  bp



  On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
  
  
I have several Channel Masters with
  the external drive. Probably what Walmart sells
  rebranded or something. Send me your address and
  I'll ship you one. It has a smart TV app. In the
  end I think it was that it was a per display thing
  we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't
  use. I want to say they were maybe $95 each, then
  add the external SSD of whatever size added
  another $85 or so.
   
  We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and
have liked the Amazon OTA DVR. Having said that,
it seems to require rebooting about every 6
weeks when the streaming locks up. I should get
a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. Other
than that, I like the whole thing and its
integration to Amazon Prime is handy if you
already use that. It is simple enough for the
wife to use, which counts for a lot.

 

  On Sun, May 17,
2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough 
wrote:
  
  

  I have used HDhomerun for years now you can
run the recording software on a PC or it
integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV,
Plex, Kodi, etc.
   
   
  On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
wrote:
  
  

  
I had the tivo for quite some time
  until it quit working and I didn’t
  want to spend the money for another
  one.  
I switched to airTV and then
  converted it to Sling.  It is buggy. 
  Does not always record what you tell
  it to, it will not allow fast forward
  on local channels and the audio level

Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Jaime Solorza

Well
https://youtu.be/Jd2VTm1e5CA

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:19 AM James Howard  wrote:

> And you’re especially attentive during the weather forecasts……
>
>
>
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> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>
>
>
> My wife finally cancelled DirectTV after many years since she uses
> Nehfleece more now. I installed a OTA outdoor antenna have a ton more
> Mexican channels which get me trouble with wife!! I watch MeTV, ION, and
> PBS mostly for entertainment...there is a DW station which broadcasts in
> Spanish for news ...I  watch CBS, BBC and DW plus several Mexican news
> outlets... interesting perspectives...
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM  wrote:
>
> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want
> to spend the money for another one.
>
> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
> inputs like Roku.
>
>
>
> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit
> that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift
> etc.
>
> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
> flawless.
>
>
>
> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
> one thing Sling does for me.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Mathew Howard

I think Tablo is somewhat crippled beyond just a 1-day program guide
without the subscription... like it didn't let you schedule recordings at
all, or something like that.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The Channel Master
> has a 2 week program guide (and a search function), but is not a network
> recorder. I think the capability to be a network recorder is in the Channel
> Master, but they've never exploited it.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked the
> Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system.
>
> I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still
> make that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV
> Player has the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's
> basically just an AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more
> reliable, and it can pause live TV.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:
>
>> I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>>
>>
>> Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?
>>
>> Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is
>> described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a
>> smart TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does
>> require an external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you
>> want to stream from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial
>> skip".
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what
>> Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship
>> you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per
>> display thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want
>> to say they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size
>> added another $85 or so.
>>
>> We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR.
>> Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when
>> the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at
>> 4AM. Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon
>> Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to
>> use, which counts for a lot.
>>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>
>>> I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software
>>> on a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t
>>> want to spend the money for another one.
>>> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
>>> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
>>> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
>>> inputs like Roku.
>>>
>>> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost
>>> unit that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time
>>> shift etc.
>>> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
>>> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
>>> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
>>> flawless.
>>>
>>> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
>>> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
>>> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
>>> one thing Sling does for me.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Trey Scarborough
>>> VP Engineering
>>> 3DS Communications LLC
>>> p:9729741539
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

My AirTV (coupled with Sling) tells me I cannot pause live TV when I try.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked the 
Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system. 

I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still make 
that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV Player has the 
same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's basically just an 
AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable, and it can 
pause live TV.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:

  I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

  Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?

  Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is 
described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a smart 
TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does require an 
external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream 
from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".

bp

On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what 
Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship you 
one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per display 
thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they 
were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another 
$85 or so. 

We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR. 
Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when the 
streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. 
Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is 
handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which 
counts for a lot.

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

  I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on 
a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.

  On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t 
want to spend the money for another one.  
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does 
not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost 
unit that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift 
etc.  
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to 
your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in 
the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need 
something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is one 
thing Sling does for me.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Mathew Howard

Yeah, mine does too. The AirTV player is different, it does pause live
TV... it's just that it's a single TV unit. It still uses the Sling app and
works the same otherwise (but you're running the Sling app on that box
instead of on a Roku or something).

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:22 PM  wrote:

> My AirTV (coupled with Sling) tells me I cannot pause live TV when I try.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 10:55 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>
> If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked the
> Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system.
>
> I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still
> make that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV
> Player has the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's
> basically just an AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more
> reliable, and it can pause live TV.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:
>
>> I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
>>
>>
>> Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?
>>
>> Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is
>> described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a
>> smart TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does
>> require an external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you
>> want to stream from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial
>> skip".
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what
>> Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship
>> you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per
>> display thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want
>> to say they were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size
>> added another $85 or so.
>>
>> We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR.
>> Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when
>> the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at
>> 4AM. Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon
>> Prime is handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to
>> use, which counts for a lot.
>>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>
>>> I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software
>>> on a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t
>>> want to spend the money for another one.
>>> I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does
>>> not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on
>>> local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi
>>> inputs like Roku.
>>>
>>> So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost
>>> unit that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time
>>> shift etc.
>>> Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to
>>> your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole
>>> streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been
>>> flawless.
>>>
>>> Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in
>>> the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need
>>> something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is
>>> one thing Sling does for me.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Trey Scarborough
>>> VP Engineering
>>> 3DS Communications LLC
>>> p:9729741539
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


  
  
The Channel Master works a lot like Tivo w/o a subscription. You
  can record a program based on name, and have it repeat whenever it
  sees that name. It's not as smart as Tivo, as when the right
  program appears on a different channel, it won't record it. It
  does distinguish between "new" and "rerun", but that is somewhat
  hit and miss. The program guide is very good, except when the
  stations /networks don't cooperate. For example, occasionally our
  local ABC, Channel 7 will go from a 2-week schedule to a 12 hour
  schedule. As the thing looks for a matching program name a couple
  of times a day, it will miss prime time for that day.


bp



On 5/18/2020 10:10 AM, Mathew Howard
  wrote:


  
  I think Tablo is somewhat crippled beyond just a
1-day program guide without the subscription... like it didn't
let you schedule recordings at all, or something like that.
  
  
  
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:00
  PM Bill Prince  wrote:


  
Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The
  Channel Master has a 2 week program guide (and a search
  function), but is not a network recorder. I think the
  capability to be a network recorder is in the Channel
  Master, but they've never exploited it.

bp



On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:


  
If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription
  fee... last I looked the Amazon thing looked the most
  promising for a multi-tv system. 


I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm
  not sure if they still make that or not). The airtv
  obviously has some problems... the AirTV Player has
  the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner
  (it's basically just an AndroidTV box with a USB
  tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable, and it can
  pause live TV.

  
  
  
On Mon, May 18, 2020
  at 11:43 AM 
  wrote:


  

  
I will wait for someone else to try Tablo
  and report to us.  

  
 

  From: Bill Prince
  
  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020
9:01 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA
receivers

  
   


  Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the
FireTV you're talking about?
  Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks
like it has 4 tuners, and is described as a
"whole house DVR". It has no HDMI;
presumably you need a smart TV or some other
thing to stream things over the local LAN.
It does require an external drive, but does
not require a subscription (unless you want
to stream from off-site). It also says it
has "automatic commercial skip".
   
  bp



  On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman
wrote:
  
  
I have several Channel
  Masters with the external drive. Probably
  what Walmart sells rebranded or something.
  Send me your address and I'll ship you
  one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I
  think it was that it was a per display
  thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of
  these I don't use. I want to say they were
  maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD
  of whatever size added another $85 or so.
   
  We use Aamazon Alexa to a great

Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Brian Webster

I haven’t tried these devices but he does decent reviews on them:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LO7h1YIMv4 for $30 stand alone OTA DVR (needs 
a disk) this might work ok.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-506suSNz7c reviews the Tablo Quad over 2 
months use. Needs a disk drive too. It will stream to your home devices.

 

 

 

 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:43 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

 

The Channel Master works a lot like Tivo w/o a subscription. You can record a 
program based on name, and have it repeat whenever it sees that name. It's not 
as smart as Tivo, as when the right program appears on a different channel, it 
won't record it. It does distinguish between "new" and "rerun", but that is 
somewhat hit and miss. The program guide is very good, except when the stations 
/networks don't cooperate. For example, occasionally our local ABC, Channel 7 
will go from a 2-week schedule to a 12 hour schedule. As the thing looks for a 
matching program name a couple of times a day, it will miss prime time for that 
day.

 

bp

 

On 5/18/2020 10:10 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I think Tablo is somewhat crippled beyond just a 1-day program guide without 
the subscription... like it didn't let you schedule recordings at all, or 
something like that.

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The Channel Master has a 
2 week program guide (and a search function), but is not a network recorder. I 
think the capability to be a network recorder is in the Channel Master, but 
they've never exploited it.

bp

 

On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked the 
Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system. 

 

I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still make 
that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV Player has the 
same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's basically just an 
AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable, and it can 
pause live TV.

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:

I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.  

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

 

Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?

Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is described 
as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a smart TV or some 
other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does require an external 
drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream from 
off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".

 

bp

 

On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what Walmart 
sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship you one. It 
has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per display thing 
we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they were 
maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another $85 or 
so. 

 

We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA DVR. 
Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when the 
streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. 
Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is 
handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which 
counts for a lot.

 

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording software on a PC 
or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.

 

 

On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t want to 
spend the money for another one.  

I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  Does not 
always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on local 
channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like 
Roku.

 

So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost unit that 
can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time shift etc.  

Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected to your 
display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But the whole 
streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been 
flawless.

 

Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots in the 
house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I need something 
there.

Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

But the osd/guide is free and generally out two weeks?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:42 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

The Channel Master works a lot like Tivo w/o a subscription. You can record a 
program based on name, and have it repeat whenever it sees that name. It's not 
as smart as Tivo, as when the right program appears on a different channel, it 
won't record it. It does distinguish between "new" and "rerun", but that is 
somewhat hit and miss. The program guide is very good, except when the stations 
/networks don't cooperate. For example, occasionally our local ABC, Channel 7 
will go from a 2-week schedule to a 12 hour schedule. As the thing looks for a 
matching program name a couple of times a day, it will miss prime time for that 
day.

bp

On 5/18/2020 10:10 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

  I think Tablo is somewhat crippled beyond just a 1-day program guide without 
the subscription... like it didn't let you schedule recordings at all, or 
something like that.

  On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The Channel Master 
has a 2 week program guide (and a search function), but is not a network 
recorder. I think the capability to be a network recorder is in the Channel 
Master, but they've never exploited it.

bp

On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

  If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I looked 
the Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system. 

  I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they still 
make that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the AirTV Player 
has the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner (it's basically just an 
AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable, and it can 
pause live TV.

  On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM  wrote:

I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking about?

Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners, and is 
described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI; presumably you need a smart 
TV or some other thing to stream things over the local LAN. It does require an 
external drive, but does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream 
from off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".

bp

On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

  I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably what 
Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address and I'll ship you 
one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think it was that it was a per display 
thing we replaced them for. I have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they 
were maybe $95 each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another 
$85 or so. 

  We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon OTA 
DVR. Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about every 6 weeks when 
the streaming locks up. I should get a simple timer device to reboot it at 4AM. 
Other than that, I like the whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is 
handy if you already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which 
counts for a lot.

  On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  
wrote:

I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the recording 
software on a PC or it integrates with most DVR platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, 
etc.

On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I 
didn’t want to spend the money for another one.  
  I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy. 
 Does not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast forward on 
local channels and the audio level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs 
like Roku.

  So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low 
cost unit that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time 
shift etc.  
  Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it 
connected to your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But 
the whole streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly 
been flawless.

  Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger 
spots in the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So I 
need something there.  I would like something with a channel guide so that is 
one thing Sling does for me.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers


  
  
On the Channel Master? Yes. When I hear about some program coming
  on and it's within the next two weeks, I can search for it and it
  will display the channel/date/time that the program is in the
  schedule. Then it's a couple of clicks to tell it to record it.
  You can also flip through the schedule guide for up to 2 weeks.

Just occasionally things get munged up. Like the aforementioned
  ABC/Channel 7 SNAFU. Luckily ABC is mostly stuff we're not
  interested in. There was also a recent SNAFU when they did a
  massive channel re-shuffle; I think all the formerly VHF channels
  got re-assigned UHF frequencies. During the transition everything
  was massively mucked up and did not straighten out until I
  re-scanned the channels.


bp



On 5/18/2020 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  But the osd/guide is free and generally out two weeks?
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:42 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers
  

 
  
  
The Channel Master works a lot like Tivo w/o a
  subscription. You can record a program based on name, and
  have it repeat whenever it sees that name. It's not as
  smart as Tivo, as when the right program appears on a
  different channel, it won't record it. It does distinguish
  between "new" and "rerun", but that is somewhat hit and
  miss. The program guide is very good, except when the
  stations /networks don't cooperate. For example,
  occasionally our local ABC, Channel 7 will go from a
  2-week schedule to a 12 hour schedule. As the thing looks
  for a matching program name a couple of times a day, it
  will miss prime time for that day.
 
bp



On 5/18/2020 10:10 AM, Mathew
  Howard wrote:


  I think Tablo is somewhat crippled beyond
just a 1-day program guide without the subscription...
like it didn't let you schedule recordings at all, or
something like that.
  
   
  
On Mon, May 18, 2020
  at 12:00 PM Bill Prince 
  wrote:


  
Tablo has a 1-day program guide without
  subscription. The Channel Master has a 2 week
  program guide (and a search function), but is not
  a network recorder. I think the capability to be a
  network recorder is in the Channel Master, but
  they've never exploited it.

bp



On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:


  
If I remember correctly, Tablo has a
  subscription fee... last I looked the Amazon
  thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv
  system. 
 
I have an AirTV and an AirTV player
  (although I'm not sure if they still make that
  or not). The airtv obviously has some
  problems... the AirTV Player has the same
  interface, but it's not a networked tuner
  (it's basically just an AndroidTV box with a
  USB tuner) and it seems a lot more reliable,
  and it can pause live TV.

  
   
  
On Mon, May
  18, 2020 at 11:43 AM 
  wrote:


  

  
I will wait for someone else to try
  Tablo and report to us.  

  
 

  From: Bill
  Prince 
  Sent: Monday, May 18,
2020 9:01 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-18 Thread Peter Kranz via AF

Anyone deployed Cambium 450m gear under the new CBRS/SAS ruleset in an Urban
environment have comments on how reliably your access points remain
functional? i.e. receiving grants.. Should I consider this production ready
at this point, or wait?

 

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Kerry Penland

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

Thanks Sean,
I forgot all about the wispa members directory. I think this info will help.

Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:53:11 AM, you wrote:

https://members.wispa.org/members/directory/search_bootstrap.php?org_id=WISP

WISPA has a member search page. If you click the link above and then select Ohio there’s about 20 members who serve Ohio.

-Sean

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:35 AM Kerry Penland wrote:

Hey guys,
I have a good friend who works for Dell, he has been working with
OARNET and they are struggling to find broadband providers for
educators, students, etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
finding towers, etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
this out on the list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
Michigan and travel thru Ohio a lot. I see a lot of gear all
over rural Ohio, (my wife says I spend more time looking at
towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
I don't have any specifics on locations at this time, although the
Athens area was mentioned. I did provide him with the link to
Towercoverage.

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[AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Hammett

I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP always 
respond to that IP? 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

2020-05-18 Thread Larry Smith

At one time one of them (AP/SM) was 1.1 and the other was 1.2.
Can't remember which or even what, but recall always checking 
both IP when "looking".

-- 
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lesm...@ecsis.net

On Mon May 18 2020 16:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP always
> respond to that IP?
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP

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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

This is with a "default plug" inserted in the RJ12 port?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Larry Smith
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

At one time one of them (AP/SM) was 1.1 and the other was 1.2.
Can't remember which or even what, but recall always checking both IP when
"looking".

--
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lesm...@ecsis.net

On Mon May 18 2020 16:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP 
> always respond to that IP?
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP

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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

2020-05-18 Thread Sam Lambie

No, the PMP100's will not respond to that address if it has been changed to
something else. You will need a default plug.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:15 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> This is with a "default plug" inserted in the RJ12 port?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Larry Smith
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:06 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP
>
> At one time one of them (AP/SM) was 1.1 and the other was 1.2.
> Can't remember which or even what, but recall always checking both IP when
> "looking".
>
> --
> Larry Smith
> lesm...@ecsis.net
>
> On Mon May 18 2020 16:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP
> > always respond to that IP?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> > Midwest Internet Exchange
> >
> > The Brothers WISP
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Re: [AFMUG] OT... potatoes with onions and Jalapenos....

Simple, tasty.

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 10:46 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yum yum...will make some eggs with these
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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

It is still sas 1.0 so everyone gets every grant. Mid 2020 was when 2.0 was
supposed to go live, I dont know how that schedule is working with the
world coming to an end.

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:10 PM Peter Kranz via AF  wrote:

> Anyone deployed Cambium 450m gear under the new CBRS/SAS ruleset in an
> Urban environment have comments on how reliably your access points remain
> functional? i.e. receiving grants.. Should I consider this production ready
> at this point, or wait?
>
>
>
> Peter Kranz
> www.UnwiredLtd.com 
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> Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

2020-05-18 Thread Colin Stanners

IIRC those models send out a few packets with their IP address after
boot-up so you can use Wireshark to figure out the IP address from a PC
directly connected to the radio.

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 4:52 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP always
> respond to that IP?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

I dont think there is a default plug on the epmp 1k. Have to do the power
sequence reset or the reset button

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 5:19 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> No, the PMP100's will not respond to that address if it has been changed
> to something else. You will need a default plug.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:15 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> This is with a "default plug" inserted in the RJ12 port?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Larry Smith
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:06 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP
>>
>> At one time one of them (AP/SM) was 1.1 and the other was 1.2.
>> Can't remember which or even what, but recall always checking both IP when
>> "looking".
>>
>> --
>> Larry Smith
>> lesm...@ecsis.net
>>
>> On Mon May 18 2020 16:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> > I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP
>> > always respond to that IP?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > Mike Hammett
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >
>> > Midwest Internet Exchange
>> >
>> > The Brothers WISP
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Tim Reichhart

I am in NW ohio I service from Van Wert,Mercer,Darke,Shebly,Auglaize,Allen 
counties. Most of my towers are grain legs that you really cant see from major 
highways or interstates.



 
-Original Message- 
> From: "Kerry Penland"  
> To: af@af.afmug.com 
> Date: 05/18/20 10:35 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio. 
> 
> Hey guys,
> I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
> OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
> educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
> finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
> difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
> this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
> Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
> over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
> towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
> I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
> Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
> Towercoverage.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Tim Reichhart

Sean
There is more then 20 members provide services who are not wispa member and I 
am one of them.

Tim



 

-Original Message-
From: "Kerry Penland" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 05/18/20 04:27
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.Thanks Sean,
I forgot all about the wispa members directory. I think this info will help.

Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:53:11 AM, you wrote:


 
 https://members.wispa.org/members/directory/search_bootstrap.php?org_id=WISP

WISPA has a member search page.  If you click the link above and then select 
Ohio there’s about 20 members who serve Ohio.

-Sean


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:35 AM Kerry Penland  wrote:

 
 

Hey guys,
I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
Towercoverage.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Bruce Robertson

Tablo.  100% satisfied.  The intelligent commercial skip gets it right 
almost all of the time.


On 5/17/20 5:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working and I didn’t 
want to spend the money for another one.
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is buggy.  
Does not always record what you tell it to, it will not allow fast 
forward on local channels and the audio level is much higher than all 
my other hdmi inputs like Roku.
So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really low cost 
unit that can record if you connect an external drive.  It allows time 
shift etc.
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it connected 
to your display.  And you will have to feed it an RF TV signal.  But 
the whole streaming over the network by Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not 
exactly been flawless.
Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my larger spots 
in the house to watch TV has a large monitor with no F connector.  So 
I need something there.  I would like something with a channel guide 
so that is one thing Sling does for me.

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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

2020-05-18 Thread Darin Steffl

Maybe you should join Wispa. They do so much good for our industry. I've
heard all the excuses as to why people don't join but they don't make
sense. It's cheap!

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:09 PM Tim Reichhart 
wrote:

> Sean
> There is more then 20 members provide services who are not wispa member
> and I am one of them.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> --
> -Original Message-
> From: "Kerry Penland" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 05/18/20 04:27
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.
>
> Thanks Sean,
> I forgot all about the wispa members directory. I think this info will
> help.
>
> Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:53:11 AM, you wrote:
>
>
>
> https://members.wispa.org/members/directory/search_bootstrap.php?org_id=WISP
>
> WISPA has a member search page.  If you click the link above and then
> select Ohio there's about 20 members who serve Ohio.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:35 AM Kerry Penland 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey guys,
> I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
> OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
> educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
> finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
> difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
> this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
> Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
> over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
> towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
> I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
> Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
> Towercoverage.
>
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> Kerry Penland
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

2020-05-18 Thread Bruce Robertson

I bought the lifetime Tablo subscription, and I pay extra for the 
commercial skip.  It's worth it IMO, even with the limited amount of 
time I spend watching OTA.


On 5/18/20 9:59 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


Tablo has a 1-day program guide without subscription. The Channel 
Master has a 2 week program guide (and a search function), but is not 
a network recorder. I think the capability to be a network recorder is 
in the Channel Master, but they've never exploited it.


bp


On 5/18/2020 9:55 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
If I remember correctly, Tablo has a subscription fee... last I 
looked the Amazon thing looked the most promising for a multi-tv system.


I have an AirTV and an AirTV player (although I'm not sure if they 
still make that or not). The airtv obviously has some problems... the 
AirTV Player has the same interface, but it's not a networked tuner 
(it's basically just an AndroidTV box with a USB tuner) and it seems 
a lot more reliable, and it can pause live TV.


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM > wrote:


I will wait for someone else to try Tablo and report to us.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 9:01 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT OTA receivers

Lewis, your "Amazon OTA DVR", is that the FireTV you're talking
about?

Has anyone looked at the Tablo? It looks like it has 4 tuners,
and is described as a "whole house DVR". It has no HDMI;
presumably you need a smart TV or some other thing to stream
things over the local LAN. It does require an external drive, but
does not require a subscription (unless you want to stream from
off-site). It also says it has "automatic commercial skip".

bp


On 5/18/2020 5:24 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I have several Channel Masters with the external drive. Probably
what Walmart sells rebranded or something. Send me your address
and I'll ship you one. It has a smart TV app. In the end I think
it was that it was a per display thing we replaced them for. I
have 4 of these I don't use. I want to say they were maybe $95
each, then add the external SSD of whatever size added another
$85 or so.
We use Aamazon Alexa to a great extent and have liked the Amazon
OTA DVR. Having said that, it seems to require rebooting about
every 6 weeks when the streaming locks up. I should get a simple
timer device to reboot it at 4AM. Other than that, I like the
whole thing and its integration to Amazon Prime is handy if you
already use that. It is simple enough for the wife to use, which
counts for a lot.
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough 
wrote:

I have used HDhomerun for years now you can run the
recording software on a PC or it integrates with most DVR
platforms MythTV, Plex, Kodi, etc.

On 5/17/2020 7:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had the tivo for quite some time until it quit working
and I didn’t want to spend the money for another one.
I switched to airTV and then converted it to Sling.  It is
buggy.  Does not always record what you tell it to, it will
not allow fast forward on local channels and the audio
level is much higher than all my other hdmi inputs like Roku.
So looking again for an ATA receiver.  Walmart has a really
low cost unit that can record if you connect an external
drive.  It allows time shift etc.
Does not stream over you network, you will have to have it
connected to your display.  And you will have to feed it an
RF TV signal.  But the whole streaming over the network by
Tivo and Sling/AirTV has not exactly been flawless.
Anyone using anything else they really like?  One of my
larger spots in the house to watch TV has a large monitor
with no F connector.  So I need something there.  I would
like something with a channel guide so that is one thing
Sling does for me.

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VP Engineering
3DS Communications LLC
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Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP

They do, wireshark is the best tool if you dont want to default it

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 6:22 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> IIRC those models send out a few packets with their IP address after
> boot-up so you can use Wireshark to figure out the IP address from a PC
> directly connected to the radio.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020, 4:52 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP
>> always respond to that IP?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.

+1000 Darin

The 850mhz of new 6ghz spectrum they just helped secured for outdoor PMP is
one of hundreds of examples I can think of...great investment for sure!

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:21 PM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Maybe you should join Wispa. They do so much good for our industry. I've
> heard all the excuses as to why people don't join but they don't make
> sense. It's cheap!
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:09 PM Tim Reichhart <
> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>
>> Sean
>> There is more then 20 members provide services who are not wispa member
>> and I am one of them.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Kerry Penland" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Date: 05/18/20 04:27
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.
>>
>> Thanks Sean,
>> I forgot all about the wispa members directory. I think this info will
>> help.
>>
>> Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:53:11 AM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://members.wispa.org/members/directory/search_bootstrap.php?org_id=WISP
>>
>> WISPA has a member search page.  If you click the link above and then
>> select Ohio there's about 20 members who serve Ohio.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:35 AM Kerry Penland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> I  have  a  good  friend  who works for Dell, he has been working with
>> OARNET  and  they  are  struggling  to  find  broadband  providers for
>> educators,  students,  etc in rural Ohio. What I'm hearing is they are
>> finding  towers,  etc in the areas they need coverage but are having a
>> difficult time identifying the operators. So, I suggested that I throw
>> this  out  on  the  list and see what the borg has to say. I'm here in
>> Michigan   and   travel   thru  Ohio  a  lot.  I see a lot of gear all
>> over   rural   Ohio, (my   wife  says  I  spend more time looking at
>> towers, etc than the road) so I putting this out there for discussion.
>> I  don't  have  any  specifics on locations at this time, although the
>> Athens  area  was  mentioned.  I  did  provide  him  with  the link to
>> Towercoverage.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Kerry Penland
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Need help finding providers in Ohio.