Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:42:33 +0100, Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Been there, done that. > The short answer: "We don't want anyone else to play in our playground!" > The longer answer: "More machines mean more work for the the buildd admin. > Additional buildd admins for those arch

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:44:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op di, 15-03-2005 te 16:19 -0500, schreef Anthony DeRobertis: > > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > | You misunderstood. I don't fight generic changes to the order; I just > > | don't think it would be a good thing that a

Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005/11/19, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > FWIW he currently does a. Rejecting at SMTP time causes backscatter on > forwarded mail, as the forwarding host cannot reject because it > already has accepted the mail. And usual way to deal with this is to set: ignore_errmsg_errors_after = 7d I

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/20, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I suspect and hope the DPL try to reason with the people in question > first, before the DPL wields his authority and push the current holder > of privileged positions aside, as a power struggle with the overworked > people in these privileged

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/21, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I > understand the master copy of the keyring is currently on a medium > that is under the keyring maintainer's direct physical control. > > The "obvious" way of switching to team main

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005/12/8, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Anthony Towns writes:What is required is abuildd-give-back package_version(or whatever you called the alias for wanna-build --give-back). Following this train of thought, wouldn't it be reasonable to have a control @ bui

Re: apt PARALLELISM

2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE servers... That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple servers all the time. To fetch packages lists, or if a package is only available on one of the

Re: apt PARALLELISM

2005/12/13, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Time to devise a way to teach it about that, then. HOW to do it is the big > problem, though. How should one deal with round-robin DNS mirrors which are > supposed to be equal, but are not. What are the failure modes to cater > fo

Re: Size matters. Debian binary package stats

2005/12/18, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've run some scripts to find out the size of binary pakcages in debian > > and how theycould be made smaller, here's the results: > > > http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sizematters/ > > Afaict from the webpage

Re: New make is breaking several packages

estingly, in the changelog it's listed as a bugfix. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: For those who care about the GR

r documentation only. :) It seems that some people see the vote as meaning 1 and others want meaning 2. The latter would seems to require changing the SC, the former wouldn't. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

Past policy has been that stable updates don't cover things that arn't critical, even if it makes us look out of date compared to other distributions. A change to that policy should be carefully considered before doing it... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

; else. This usually ends badly for all concerned. We have no courts, so what's the alternative? If we get a super-majority of developers to say a majority is enough, we're home. If a majority of developers say a majority is enough, what does that mean? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Editorial changes to the Social Contract

it originally meant. Why shouldn't people be able to touch up the language to match modern forms? For example, what you read as written by Shakespeare now often doesn't match what he wrote exactly. Derived works just take the idea further, in that you change the meaning also. You jus

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

e and packaged, and then ask whether ordinary packaging practice > would lead to A a declaring a "Depends:" relationship on B in that > situation. This test would allow us to move the question into the > technical realm. Thank you, this has cleared everything up for me. Now I

Opening old sarge upgrade bug?

I did my "apt-get dist-upgrade" today and received the following message: Setting up xlibs-data (4.3.0.dfsg.1-14) ... update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-cursor-theme corrupt: missing newline after manflag dpkg: error processing xlibs-data (--configure): subprocess p

Re: Question regarding 'offensive' material

2005/6/17, Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > That's simply another way to say that "the group of people who are > > offended is a minority". > > even if the group where the material is popular is a minority itself? I think the case is: - a minority are offended - a minority like it - a major

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005/6/17, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The ironic thing is, even if we do rename, who is going to do the trademark > search to prove that the new name we choose is not someone else's trademark > who we do NOT have permission to use? I doubt this is relevent. Unless there is another *b

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005/7/3, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:28:15PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > That's true, and unavoidable in this scheme; but the use case (beyond > > > fastidiousness) for this is not clear to me. > > > > Well, h

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

re's progress. Getting translated descriptions is a really cool goal. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

p server is. There's an alioth project, but it has nothing past the initial commit. Thanks in advance, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

ou'll never notice the problem. That's how I understand it anyway, Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

might be handy, since the main server doesn't do that well right now. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

It's rough, please be gentle. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

On 8/7/06, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/6/06, Michael Bramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where can we download the script? Actually, please try this version: http://svana.org/kleptog/temp/ddtss-0.2.tar.gz It's a bit more advanced w.r.t. revie

Re: ITP: subtitleeditor -- Graphical subtitle editor with sound waves representation

bly shouldn't be mentioning it in the description. What you say is nice to know, but the description is not the right place. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: cdrtools

GPL only give rules about redistribution, it doesn't change the licence of anything. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Translated packages descriptions progress

DTP project eventually, it's just two way of doing the same thing. Hope this answers your question, [1] http://kleptog.org/cgi-bin/ddtss2-cgi/ -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

hat they're checking your Sender header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. I remember dealing with this once by getting mutt to add an explicit Sender header, but perhaps you can configure the mail server to rewrite the header to your normal email. Hope this helps, -- Martijn va

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

get fixed." Well, ofcourse. Otherwise it wouldn't be stable... Certain types of bugs are fixed, but by and large, you're stuck with the bugs it was released with... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

cally mail servers on UNIX have ignored the -f switch to the sendmail command which does the same thing. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linking a static library with -fPIC for flex

erwise statically linked, and perhaps slower execution speeds. There's no performance critical code in libfl. The main function is hardly ever used, and yywrap() is only called at an of input. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

1 bytes short 2 bytes int 4 bytes long 8 bytes If you make an int 8 bytes, you have to find some other way of indicating one of the shorter types (short short maybe? or long char?). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ --

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

r arguments. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Problem including (linux-kernel-headers 2.6.17)

should never use kernel headers directly. Instead, userspace should copy the parts of the header that is relevent to them. I think the idea is that eventually stuff expected to be used will be moved to the sanitized headers in glibc. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

of the gtk+2 pc file needs to be fixed, then you can start recompiling all the affected programs... Some of the discussion in bug #340904 is relevent here. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

On 9/28/06, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout skrev: > Which is all crap. Yes, this is the list you need for static, but > pkg-config is recursing through modules even for dynamic linking which > is wrong. Now either pkg-config of the gtk+2 pc f

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

le gtk+-2.0.pc saved. vali:/usr/lib/pkgconfig# pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

e, but I would've expected the there to be no difference between Requires and Requires.private when looking at cflags. At least, that's my interpretation of this thread. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Alioth upgrade -- done

hese useless pages and use that memory for cache or network buffers instead. On the systems I deal with that usually gives me an extra 50-100MB of free memory for caching, but whether that's noticable on a server with 8GB of RAM I have no idea. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[E

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

occasional user installing an ftp server for anyway? It's not a service you want to be installing without some basic knowledge. What is the actual risk? That someone not too knowledgable will try to install multiple servers and getting confused? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout &

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

d rewriting existing scripts to work with some generic shell. The former is going to be *much* easier. Isn't that enough? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: shared libraries dependecy problem.

#x27;t declare all the libs they need and if you're using one of those the result might be that you fix your package only to reveal a bug in another. People building shared libraries can use -Wl,--no-allow-shlib-undefined to detect this situation. Hope this helps, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Australian timezone (australasia) update for this weekend

e to the stable libc due a security issue, will it have the update or will all our machines revert back to the wrong behaviour? Thanks in advance, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Bug#358695: ITP: latex-utils -- utilities for LaTeX/xfig

d" or "builder". That's somewhere between compiling and just scripts. Or may be "make" or "maker" as it's using Makefile fragments. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

pkg-config including too much crap

ile myself? -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: pkg-config including too much crap

On 4/4/06, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Martijn van Oosterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there a way to get sane output from pkg-config or should I just > > parse the .pc file myself? > > The .pc file needs converting to use

Re: pkg-config including too much crap

ly depend on. What we need is an option follow requires for cflags but not for libs. Hopefully, one day.... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

/local/bin called vipager and set your pager variable to that... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: nasty libgnutls11 bug still present (affects exim4 and libnss-ldap)

a rule, for a real bug you can just do it. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: gpg

d again, you can change it without losing the signitures... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: effectiveness of rsync and apt

t appears to be patented. The rest of the page is a pretty good summary. The compression problem is the real stumbling block... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Policy change about `/usr/lib/cgi-bin' - Mass bug filing pending...

the package. So, debian changes packages to install to cgi-lib where we can ensure they won't conflict. If the admin wants to make them visible they symlink the stuff from cgi-lib to cgi-bin. No special webserver supported needed. Just changing the names seems silly in the extreme. Have a nic

Re: bits from the release team

e same mechanism as the packages. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: multiarch status update

sly. It's not rocket science, just most people don't consider it worth the effort. In any case, I don't think any of this is going to handle multiple architechtures simultaneously magically. It's more like each arch get given a namespace and everything is carefully designed

Re: multiarch status update

ou want to have both types installed simultaneously anyway? For libraries the answer is simple, but multiarch applications simply don't seem useful to me. The solution would be to either forbid having both versions installed, or deal with it via alternatives. They should be indistinguishable f

Re: [draft] Re: Sun Java available from non-free

at least 27 meanings, the word "software" is not adequately defined. Conjunction also has several possible meanings. Thing like estoppel don't apply the same way everywhere, so you can't rely on things like that. Maybe someone should come back with a "More Carefully Worded New Sun Java Licence" -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

his, except that the --libs produces too much rubbish to be truly useful (see Bug#340904). But if it worked correctly, you could add a --arch flags there to ensure you get the right version. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

tten version trumps anything. After all, that can be verified, I havn't heard anything verbally from Sun myself saying what may or may not be allowed. But IANAL. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

On 5/22/06, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Given the word "estoppel" only has meaning in jurisdictions deriving > from English common law, I think it'd be silly to assume it works the > way y

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

ined even though they are not member of the EU (though they havn't implemented it yet, there are a number of things Switzerland has to do first). The obvious example is the UK, which insists on checking your passport if you come from the mainland. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Ooste

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

of large-scale willing mass copyright infringement. I guess it's a small risk though... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

t applies to the situation at hand, well, use your imagination. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

viewer for the file and display it. There is also edit, compose and print. Preferences can be consigured globally using /etc/mailcap.order. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

x27; is displayed under Window mamager to notify the user? Well, an error status is returned. The calling program can handle this any way it likes. Only the calling program knows the appropriate way to pass this information onto the user. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://s

x.org related question

g up the entire process. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x.org related question

for trying to create a symlink in a directory it does not ship. Aha, if you do a dpkg -L fvwm1 it doesn't list a /usr/X11R6 directory, but the postinst definitely refers to it. Looks like a bug, I'll file one in the morning... Thank you very much. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL P

Re: Netatalk and SSL

y form); some don't, or haven't yet, and those apps Debian doesn't distribute. The other alternative is to port it to another SSL library, like Mozilla NSS or GnuTLS. Most of the time the SSL code is not terribly complicated and the port is fairly straight-forward. Have a nice day, -- M

Re: Netatalk and SSL

On 6/19/06, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:27:28 +0200, "Martijn van Oosterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The other alternative is to port it to another SSL library, like >Mozilla NSS or GnuTLS. Most of the time the SSL code is not t

Re: Netatalk and SSL

is versioned (on debian anyway) to prevent that being a problem. Do you have a reference? Maybe someone forgot to enable thread safety for libgcrypt. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

OTOH, you could weigh up the chance that the number you're going to output is greater than 2^32. If the chance is small, you cast it to long and print using %lu. No chance of compiler errors, the display will just look odd if you do try to print a larger number. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

ten provide more info than available in pkg-config (plugin or config directories). -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

-config is nice for the constellation of GPL'd libraries currently installed on most linux systems, but once you step outside of that it's not quite as useful. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

On 7/1/06, Vincent Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:42:12PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > It is also used to compile contrib modules that are included in the > distribution. If you started using pkg-config you'd have introduced a > build d

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

roken. APT performs HTTP pipelining. Judging by the way I saw it run, it looked like it was pipelining but only maybe five at a time. Maybe some of the mirrors restrict the number of pipelined requests? Is there a way of detecting such a situation? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

iles. The extra libs should only be listed if you specify --static. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

to another, but it would seem to be easiest to simply combine the diffs into one large diff. Techniques for combining diffs are not new, I imagine someone just needs to code it... Hope this helps, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: greylisting on debian.org?

ore. Normal mail I assume generally doesn't score high and is not susceptable to greylisting. Not that I mind, the amount of spam received via this mailing list is so marginal I can hardly imagine people worrying about it. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h

Re: greylisting on debian.org?

And if they are, are you sure you want to receive mail from them? Greylisting everything is silly, and that's not what's being discussed here (AIUI anyway). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: The nature of unstable (was: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!)

ch everything has a good chance of working, because if anything breaks I'm pretty much stuffed. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place.

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 24, 2000

re on this, we ran into this problem last night with and upgrade of slink -> potato. Apt kept on failing saying dpkg failed, something about -fsys-tarfile. So we then typed: apt-get install dpkg apt and then reran the upgrade and the problem went away. Go figure... -- Martijn van Oosterhout <

Re: blue on black is unreadable

son true-type fonts look horrid the other way round. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

formation on which loop devices are related to which filesystems? AFAIK that's the only thing that went strange after linking /proc/mounts and /etc/mtab; loop devices not being freed after unmounting. -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://cupid.suninternet.com/~kleptog/

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

serted). It's much cleverer than that. The blocks are not a fixed size, but are determined by a rolling checksum based on a certain about of data. So if a line is inserted the data that causes the block to finish moves also, so the block is bigger and the rest of the file is compressed

Re: where is #define __linux__

og/~>gcc -E -dM -c /tmp/x.c #define __linux__ 1 #define linux 1 #define __i386__ 1 #define __i386 1 #define __GNUC_MINOR__ 95 #define i386 1 #define __unix 1 #define __unix__ 1 #define __GNUC__ 2 #define __linux 1 #define __ELF__ 1 #define unix 1 -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://cupid.suninternet.com/~kleptog/

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

h filing a report to ask that the script not try to > change the permissions and ownership of the pipe if it is not > necessary to do so, and that it tolerate failure. I'll file it. Tolerating failure would at least allow you to test with minimal problems. -- Martijn van Oosterhout

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

ason to change and can show that gawk and mawk are 100% compatable, maybe it can be worked on. But it seems most people don't really care. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > "the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or > rel

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

nal files. You need the backward-rsync which was patented last I heard. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > "the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or > religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. > Wes

run-parts problem again

the problem was fixed in proposed-updates. Any ETA on that being merged with woody or should I grab the file from p-u? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > "All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good > men to do nothing." - Edmond Burk

Re: About NM and Next Release

g. Linux is dying. The end of the world is nigh. Things like this (including democracies) only die when people beleive it. As long a people belive they're doing the right thing, the whole process is self-sustaining. Now, on with the regularly scheduled flamewar. -- Martijn van Oosterhout

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

first one fails, assuming the same package is listed in one of the pther archives in the sources.list. I'm not sure how difficult this would be. If you also regenerate the Package file then they will simply become invisible to users. This could get confusing. Hope this helps, -- Martijn van O

Re: vrms and contrib installers (was: Re: "non-free" software included in contrib)

g report (on vrms). Perhaps it'd even be useful if > installer packages somehow marked that they've installed non-free > software, then vrms could look at that. Random package: Provides: non-free-installer vrms: Conflicts: non-free-installer Done. -- Martijn van Oosterhout

Re: is it a bug to not depend on a library package needed for some binary?

2005/7/17, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Karl Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Suppose package P contains files /usr/bin/B1 and /usr/bin/B2. B1 > > is the important program, and B2 is not as important. Is it OK > > for the declared package dependencies to not satisfy all the

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005/10/7, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, only in one direction if I remember my versioning rules correctly. > Consider the following cases: > * binary built against unversioned libssl from other distro, running with > versioned libssl on Debian > Breaks because it can't find the sym

Re: Non-x86 architectures becomes more popular in Debian...

> And for those of you interested in the architecture distribution, here > are the numbers and percentages: I think popcon is a really neat project. I do look every now and then to see when the "unknown" line crosses the "amd64" line :) It's getting close. Keep up the good work,

Re: Transition time: KDE, JACK, arts, sablotron, unixodbc, net-snmp, php, ...

> Steve Langasek a écrit : > So I would like to propose to drop testing during a limited period of > time (let's say 4 months) after the release, to have the time to make > all the necessary big transitions. If the period of time is limited, the > stable distribution will not be too out-dated, so t

Re: Problem with package build-depends against libpcap-dev - isthis a bug?

2005/11/7, Roy Hills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'll submit a bug against libpcap-dev first for not allowing > libpcap0.8-dev to satisfy the dependency, and see where that > leads. I guess that the libpcap-dev developer should know > what is supposed to happen. I wonder if this shouldn't be like libre

Re: idea: allow package combinations as alternatives, e.g. a | b + c

RC from logic, a | (b&c) == (a|b) & (a|c), which means you should be able to represent the above using: gnome-office | openoffice.org, gnome-office | openoffice.org-gnome Whether this actually works I don't know... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

lled. Then the configure script should do: Checking for pkg-config no ERROR: Please install pkg-config It's not the dev package's responsibility to ensure gcc/g++/binutils are installed, I beleive the same applies to pkg-config. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL

  1   2   >