see below, please.

regards,

Richard Erlacher

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>
>> >> It is true that nobody force me to use SDCC, but the deficiency in the
>> >> documentation actually prevents me from using it.
>> >
>> > Have you even installed it yet?
>>
>> Yes, reluctantly, since I don't like to install things when the resulting
>> conditions are not well defined.
>
> OK.
>
> Have you figured out how to get that c code off the paper, and into a 
> file?
> Or maybe onto punched cards?  (sorry, I couldn't pass that one up!!!)
>
Nope ... no Hollerith cards ... I couldn't lift the keypunch ... I'm getting 
old, doncha know!  In fact, I just click over another year as of 9/5.

I haven't found any doc's on the assembler syntax ... is that out there 
somewhere?  Different assemblers do use different syntax.  Looking at the 
ASM output will tell me much of what I want to know.  I also want to try out 
the assembler, since there's question as to whether I'll ever write a 
program large enough (>250K lines of ASM) to warrant using a HLL.  It might 
be interesting for purposes of making a choice between MCU's though, as SDCC 
is supposed to treat MCS51 parts, MC68HC-whatever's, and a few others I'm 
less likely to consider.  That's what piqued my interest.
>
> Did you notice chapter 3 in the fine manual???

Yes, I did, though I found, for example, lots of references to "segment" but 
no definition and certainly no general assertion as to how their use affects 
the output.  There are several specifics, but a higher level explanation 
would help clear things up.  The only place I've routinely used that term is 
in CPU's that use segment registers, e.g. i80x86.

> Did you read it, and understand it, including the part about startup code?

I did see that, but haven't digested it yet.

> No questions?

Maybe later.

> Good.
>
> Did you try to compile anything yet????????????

Certainly not!  One has to know what the outcome will be before one runs a 
program.

> What happened?

I got a virus warning when I downloaded the v2.8.2 files.

I didn't get that warning after a second download, and found that the doc 
section under AS addresses a number of assemblers with this title,
"ASxxxx Cross Assemblers, Version 1.7, November 1995 "
and says, " This  collection contains cross assemblers for the 
6800(6802/6808), 6801(hd6303), 6804, 6805, 68HC08,   6809, 6811, 68HC16 
8085(8080),  z80(hd64180), H8/3xx, and 6500 series microprocessors,"  few of 
which are what currently interests me, and fewer yet are supported by SDCC, 
according to what I've read so far.  I saw nothing about an 805x assembler 
among the assembler doc.

> Randy
>



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