>From what I recall from the pre-Windows days, most of the development 
software, particularly hardware-development tools,  but also software 
development tools, I encountered under DOS and under *nix was equipped with 
its own GUI/IDE.  That was, in fact one of its key weaknesses, in many 
cases, because you couldn't move tools or, in fact, sometimes even 
documents, from one context to another, and, in other cases, could "talk" to 
a peripheral in one package and not in another (more of a DOS problem than a 
*nix problem...with *nix, it was simply impossible to "talk" to that 
peripheral at all.  By the time the peripheral was supported under *nix, it 
was obsolete.)

I don't care much for the problems that Windows has introduced, but it does 
make it easy to use poorly documented tools.  Unfortunately, that's not 
universally the case.

regards,

Richard Erlacher

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] documentation & open source generally


> On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Richard Gray wrote:
>> Ditto. Seems to be a poor substitute for Unix's (et al) make to me,
>> but for
>> the GUI addicted I can see it's appeal. GUI's didn't exist when I
>> started in
>> computing, so I don't really experience much pain doing things the
>> 'old' way
>> with arcane commands, and it's often much quicker.
>
>   I agree, it's far more efficient.  I don't consider it to be "the
> old way" at all, though, simply because it existed before IDEs.  The
> vast majority of "grownup" (i.e., non-MS-Windows) software
> development does not occur in an IDE.
>
>           -Dave
>
> -- 
> Dave McGuire
> Port Charlotte, FL
>
>
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