On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: > > I don't disagree. But none of that is realistic. > > I think $100k annual is more realistically the market rate. But then you > get to be pushed around every day, have 9-5 working hours and deadlines. > I've turned down offers to interview for such positions because I prefer > the flexibility of academic work. > > There's no chance of tenure at any academic institution if you are > employed as a software engineer. So that's unrealistic. >
I was a research programmer for a year at Utrecht University (on CGAL); IMHO it didn't hurt my tenure prospects (not that I have a tenure now, but I'm still around in academia :-)) And it was with 9-5 (and more) working hours and deadlines, and I was pushed around quite a bit. > And we are a mathematics dept. So hiring someone as a mathematics postdoc > isn't going to get this job done. > No, why? Are you serious? Are you yourself a tenured professor now? > I do accept the premise that higher compensation might feasibly attract > applicants. It's not possible though. It looks to me like the position may > go unfilled. > you have to re-package it as a postdoc; after all it's probably publishable work, to get something working the way you want... Or/and offer part-time and/or remore work. Dima > Bill. > > On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:23:46 UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 4:55:29 PM UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: >>> >>> We have the money. We know what needs to be done. But we have zero >>> applicants. There is a lack of talent, not a lack of money in some areas. >>> >> >> You are looking for an expert in compilers / optimization who happens to >> have a math graduate degree. Those obviously exist, the problem is that >> that this is a valuable skillset. I'm guessing to the tune of $200k annual >> if you work for one of the tech giants. Since you can't pay with stock >> options that means either >> >> a) offer market rate (and 200k for one year only is less attractive than >> 200k every year) >> >> b) offer flexibility (remote work etc.) >> >> c) offer a chance at tenure (long postdoc, prestigious institution, >> famous adviser) >> >> Its basic economics: If you didn't get any applications then your >> compensation is inadequate. >> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
