On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 1:24:09 PM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> On 2015-09-09 22:17, Thierry wrote:
> > sorry for not participating actively to this long thread, i am currently
> > pretty far from computers. Let me just mention that this discussion
> > already appears some time ago, and that somehow, the mailing-list is
> > probably not the appropriate tool for solving such an issue, while the
> > wiki is definitely more appropriate for classifying things, see how big
> is
> > the work to be accomplished, and eventually getting things done. During
> a
> > previous similar thread, i opened the following page, which might a good
> > tool if we keep it up-to-date
>
> I never meant this thread to be about
> classifying/upgrading/porting/fixing old-style packages, but somehow
> many people started thinking in that direction.
>
Although this new effort is an improvement for Sage, and if enough
old-style packages get upgraded, we've solved the problem.
>
> This thread was meant to answer the very simple question: what should
> happen if a user does
>
> sage -i OLDSTYLEPACKAGE
>
Among other things, don't search archived packages. I'm not sure why that
was ever a good idea.
In principle, removing the ability to easily install old-style packages is
bad. If we upgrade enough of those packages, we essentially fix this
problem. That is, there is a balance between philosophy and practicality.
>
> As long as there is still at least one old-style package left, this
> question makes sense and should be answered on the short term before the
> next Sage release.
>
As long as there is one non-broken old-style package, yes. Or as long as
there is one non-broken old-style package that anyone cares about, but I'm
not sure how to measure that.
I've lost track of what the options are, but I would be happy if "sage -i
PACKAGE" said something like
"PACKAGE is no longer a maintained Sage package. If you want to install it,
type
sage -i full/url/to/package"
> I think that deciding what to do with concrete old-style packages is a
> longer-term issue.
>
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