> But by reverting #19004 (which is essentially what #19158 does), it is 
>> also possible to install them using "sage -i <package>". 
>
>
> It is possible to try, and almost always fail miserably, to install them. 
>

It would be helpful for this discussion to know what packages we are 
actually talking about.  For instance, for some of them (e.g. beautifulsoup 
or brian) we could just make new-style packages that say "this is no longer 
supported this way, please do sage -sh and pip install packagename."

I agree that if python is the only one that is an actual disaster (TOPCOM 
vs. topcom seems very unlikely to cause a Sage installation to 
self-destruct to me) then that should be solved separately from this issue.

There is also the question of how long/much to support earlier versions of 
Sage that might want some of these packages.  I'm not sure what the answer 
to that is - and Volker, don't just say they should upgrade their system if 
it won't build from scratch, because (as you very well know) some people 
don't have admin authority or access to a newer system (e.g. if it's 
hardware provided by their employer).  XP is still out there in the wild so 
many places... and maybe the virtual machine image even works there :-)

- kcrisman 

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