On 24 April 2015 at 10:32, than...@debian.org <than...@debian.org> wrote:
> Whether it is an embedded fork in sage or it gets its own git repo on the
> sage github account.. Someone from the sage community would have to fix bugs
> in both cases.

Yes!  But I think that David Harvey *is* a member of the Sage
community (unless he says otherwise...)

John

>
> Am Freitag, 24. April 2015 10:37:56 UTC+2 schrieb John Cremona:
>>
>> Who is the author of hyperellfrob?
>>
>> There is a point in addition to Michael's:   maintaining a fork which
>> only differs with respect to libtools packaging is one thing, but we
>> would also need someone to take responsibility for any bugs found in
>> the code, if the original author was not able, willing or available to
>> respond.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 24 April 2015 at 00:54, Michael Orlitzky <mic...@orlitzky.com> wrote:
>> > On 04/23/2015 04:56 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Can't we work with upstream (the authors) to package these?
>> >> For starters, none of these seem very active projects. In particular,
>> >> hyperellfrob and bernmm have their last release in 2008 and 2009.
>> >>
>> >> Second, what if the authors don't care?
>> >>
>> >
>> > There are two kinds of don't care:
>> >
>> >   1. The author doesn't like autotools or doesn't want to accept
>> >      outside contributions.
>> >
>> >   2. The code was for an old project and the author can't be bothered
>> >      with it any more.
>> >
>> > Both have the same solution: fork it and make releases on the sagemath
>> > github or wherever. In the case of (2), this is obviously best for
>> > everyone. If it's (1) instead, then most of our additions will be
>> > independent of the "real" code making it trivial for us to merge
>> > upstream changes. Then our fork will be the better fork (since it builds
>> > easily and has all the same features), and people will use our fork
>> > instead. Eventually the author will come around, or if not, that's not a
>> > huge problem either.
>> >
>> > We're essentially maintaining a fork now, so it wouldn't necessarily be
>> > more work after we're done auto-tooling it.
>> >
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