On 24 April 2015 at 09:37, John Cremona <john.crem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who is the author of hyperellfrob?

OK, I found it (it is actually called hypellfrob): David Harvey.
David, if you are listening -- any comments?

John

>
> There is a point in addition to Michael's:   maintaining a fork which
> only differs with respect to libtools packaging is one thing, but we
> would also need someone to take responsibility for any bugs found in
> the code, if the original author was not able, willing or available to
> respond.
>
> John
>
> On 24 April 2015 at 00:54, Michael Orlitzky <mich...@orlitzky.com> wrote:
>> On 04/23/2015 04:56 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can't we work with upstream (the authors) to package these?
>>> For starters, none of these seem very active projects. In particular,
>>> hyperellfrob and bernmm have their last release in 2008 and 2009.
>>>
>>> Second, what if the authors don't care?
>>>
>>
>> There are two kinds of don't care:
>>
>>   1. The author doesn't like autotools or doesn't want to accept
>>      outside contributions.
>>
>>   2. The code was for an old project and the author can't be bothered
>>      with it any more.
>>
>> Both have the same solution: fork it and make releases on the sagemath
>> github or wherever. In the case of (2), this is obviously best for
>> everyone. If it's (1) instead, then most of our additions will be
>> independent of the "real" code making it trivial for us to merge
>> upstream changes. Then our fork will be the better fork (since it builds
>> easily and has all the same features), and people will use our fork
>> instead. Eventually the author will come around, or if not, that's not a
>> huge problem either.
>>
>> We're essentially maintaining a fork now, so it wouldn't necessarily be
>> more work after we're done auto-tooling it.
>>
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