On 2014-11-14, Simon King <simon.k...@uni-jena.de> wrote: > Hi Travis, > > On 2014-11-14, Travis Scrimshaw <tsc...@ucdavis.edu> wrote: >> To give a counterpoint to Simon's analogy, we agree that bullying is >> bad, but by the rules, we can tell bullies explicitly what their doing is >> wrong, why we can't push the bullies down, and explain what will happen if >> the behavior escalates. Bullying can get so bad that the teachers need to >> step in and enact the correct punishment. > > In my experience, it is often the *teachers* who are bullying, in the > sense that bullying pupils are just the teacher's tools to destroy > pupils they don't like. But school aside. sometimes a teacher just doesn't know any better. One famous example is I.M.Gelfand, who sometimes called his pupils fools in the open...
> > If person A verbally attacks person B, I still think it does not help to > show a *disapproving* reaction towards person A, because then A may feel > attacked, which may make his/her behaviour even worse, and which > wouldn't help B at all. Instead, I suggest to show a *supporting* reaction > towards person B, in order to make B stronger and prevent damage. > > As it has been said by (IIRC) Jan, it is important that authorities set > a good example. It may not always help with any individual, but is the > best way to keep a communicative environment healthy. And concerning those > individuals for which a good example isn't good enough, I'd prefer to > see a "don't feed the troll" policy. If person A realises that his/her > stampede ended in a vacuum, then s/he will usually stop. And if there > was harm done to B on the way towards the vacuum, then helping B has > priority over banning A. > > Best regards, > Simon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
