On Friday, November 14, 2014 3:55:34 AM UTC+1, Travis Scrimshaw wrote:
>
> Bullying can get so bad that the teachers need to step in and enact the 
> correct punishment.
>

...yet, in my experience, they usually don't, and often because the bullies 
are likable, or socially influential (e.g., son of the superintendent/major 
donor, comes from "a good family"), etc. Sometimes a teacher can 
unintentionally make a student feel like s/he is bullying her or him. 
"Speech codes" are sometimes used simply to shut down debate on topics that 
become culturally unfashionable, and are often applied unevenly. I 
personally prefer civilized discourse, but I've also noticed that Western 
society seems to have adopted an undercurrent of thin-skinned outrage.

If someone wanted to add a patch that verifiably improved the performance 
of Sage on [insert your favorite subsystem here], what would you do if her 
or his comments were frequently abusive toward other contributors, or 
previous contributions? i.e., profanity-laced, derogatory, etc. Not the 
code itself, mind, just the comments in the trac ticket and/or discussion 
in sage-devel. Presumably, someone would take her/ him aside & talk to him, 
but what if (as often happens) that person ignored the intervention & 
continued to heap abuse on you? Would you reject the patch?

If not, what's the point of the proposed code? Again, I like civilized 
discourse, but a code without consequences strikes me as worse than no code 
at all.

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