In an ideal world I think that a code of conduct would not be necessary. Sadly, the world is not ideal.
I think that SImon's example of what happened with the German translation project is a great example of why it would be good to have a code of conduct: some one's comments turned him off working on the project. Simon said that he thinks that the current system worked perfectly in this example. I think it failed dismally because Simon stopped working on the project and, what's worse, he suggests that the project may have been abandoned. I think you misunderstand the motivation for not wanting any published code > of conduct. I do *not* want to have an official code of conduct, because I > *do* want to have civilised manners in our community. > Note that in civilised countries there must(!) be a clear distinction between legislative, judiciary, and executive, a special training is required in each of these branches, and their actions must not be driven by personal interest. Having such a separation would, from my perspective, be the only acceptable way of having an official code of conduct. But I suppose most developers wouldn't like to quit writing code and studying law instead. I would be against having a code of conduct that s used to police now people post. Rather it should be just a guide. As the whole group is being asked to vote on, and suggest changes to, the code I don't see this as being driven by personal interest. I disagree with the issue of people not being "trained" to decide what is acceptable as, first, I think this is part of the current "management speak": reasonable people can make reasonable decisions and choices. Secondly, you applaud some of these unqualified people for the support they gave with the German translation incident. So, I encourage all of us: If an offence happens, then please please take > care of the person who is offended, but greatly ignore the offender. [my > emphasis] If ignoring the offender has no effect, then we are likely in a > situation where "real" law applies. But then it's the department of public > prosecution. > > +1 Btw, as Ropbert said, people take their cues from members of the group who are perceived to be "socially superior" and I certainly consider Simon to be in this category. I have replied to Simon's post because I think that a code of conduct is potentially useful and he is the only person who is giving reasons for not having one. If people like Simon are against having a code of conduct I think this is significant. On the other hand, I fully endorse Simon's statement above and I think that it would be quite reasonable to have it as the official code of conduct. I am being quite serious. After all, the code of conduct should be an aspiratal statement about how we, as a group, go about achieving our aims. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
