In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >> "R. Andrew Ohana" <andrew.oh...@gmail.com> writes: >>> This makes it obvious that I'm against having later versions of sage >>> be based upon previous versions, however, I am completely for later >>> versions of sage having all of the commits of earlier versions of sage >>> (as well as all relative order maintained). >> >> Just to be clear to anyone reading, I am ambivalent toward the former, >> and the latter is what I meant in the title of this thread. >> >> -Keshav > > Two people who have never done (the very long hard extensive work) of > even a single Sage release agree. > > It's good to constantly remind yourself of how different things can > look "in the trenches" when suggesting that other people change their > workflows. > > I just want to remind people that Jereon has *successfully* put > together far more Sage releases than everybody else combined in the > last 2 years. It's like he is landing beautiful McTwists [1], and you > guys are suggesting loudly and at great length that he needs to grab > his skateboard differently, despite you never having done a McTwist.
Certainly Jeroen is doing a great job, but I somewhat disagree with the analogy you put up here. Unlike skateboarding, Sage development is not an individual sport, it's a team sport. In a team sport, a star player cannot just do whatever he sees fit. If what he's doing causes the other team members to do much needless work, he'd have to take this into account and reconsider ways he does things. E.g. a player taking a position one step to the left from the optimum might force half the team to do a spint accross the field, and if this happens on a regular basis, then, you know, the team gets tired, etc. Dima, who often cannot resist getting into an argument :) > > I'm not making a statement for or against anything proposed so far. > I've done more Sage releases than Jereon over more time, but he does > them better than I ever did, and they are much harder to do today than > they were a few years ago. > > -- William > > [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXAwjsTbtMA > > >> >> ---- >> Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! >> >> -- >> To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel >> URL: http://www.sagemath.org > > > > -- > William Stein > Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org > -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
