William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "R. Andrew Ohana" <andrew.oh...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> This makes it obvious that I'm against having later versions of sage
>>> be based upon previous versions, however, I am completely for later
>>> versions of sage having all of the commits of earlier versions of sage
>>> (as well as all relative order maintained).
>>
>> Just to be clear to anyone reading, I am ambivalent toward the former,
>> and the latter is what I meant in the title of this thread.
>>
>> -Keshav
>
> Two people who have never done (the very long hard extensive work) of
> even a single Sage release agree.
>
> It's good to constantly remind yourself of how different things can
> look "in the trenches" when suggesting that other people change their
> workflows.
>
> I just want to remind people that Jereon has *successfully* put
> together far more Sage releases than everybody else combined in the
> last 2 years.  It's like he is landing beautiful McTwists [1], and you
> guys are suggesting loudly and at great length that he needs to grab
> his skateboard differently, despite you never having done a McTwist.

Yes. I thought that this was a pretty minor request that wouldn't meet
much opposition. I was wrong. You may notice that I actually dropped my
request in a message to Jeroen in this thread a couple of days ago - at
this point I'm just answering questions about what the request meant,
not really trying to push it anymore.

I think we do eventually need to change some things, especially since
you have asked me to draft a proposal to move to git - assuming that by
"move to git" you mean more than just "use the command `git` instead of
the command `hg`". Exactly what those things are, and how we are going
to change them, is still unclear to me, but I'm virtually certain they
will involve changing the release management process significantly - a
*lot* more than what I requested in this thread. I just don't see how
that's avoidable.

But that's for another day, preferably a day after I have acquired an
"in the trenches" perspective, as you say, and talked it over with
people some more. Again, I only made this request because I thought it
was a relatively minor thing to change, but apparently I miscalculated.

-Keshav

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