OK. I agree, I was over the top a bit.

I removed my follow up to this, FWIW. I see you mean at least the
information in the book is now "free", which is a good thing.

Bill.

On 29 June, 00:37, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > On 28 June, 22:21, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I don't think it is a click-through.
>
> >> > I think this publisher is for real and actually does quite a good job.
>
> >> > Apart from the fact that the cover illustrations have nothing at all
> >> > to do with the content, their books seem well-written. They publish a
> >> > lot of titles and they offer them much cheaper if you buy them as E-
> >> > books. They ship lots of places if you want a physical copy. They also
> >> > offer a single chapter from each book for evaluation before you
> >> > purchase.
>
> >> > They also do seem to add value to the publication after the author is
> >> > done with it.
>
> >> > It is definitely publication on a budget, but their prices seem to
> >> > reflect that, and Sage does seem to be something they would definitely
> >> > want to publish a book on. If I was an expert Sage user, had more
> >> > time, etc, etc. I'd definitely take this seriously.
>
> >> I definitely would not.  In my opinion, the are only two reasonable
> >> options for publishing Sage-related books:
>
> >>    1. Use an open license and self publish through, e.g., Lulu.    The
> >> Sage community can do the hard editing work better than most
> >> publishers.  (Here's I'm talking mainly about Minh Nguyen.)   I think
> >> you'll earn as much money as you would get from Packt, but you get
> >> 100% of the profits instead of 18%, so end buyers pay far less (and
> >> get more -- due to the open license).
>
> >>    2. Publish with a very high quality reputable publisher, e.g.,
> >> Springer, O'Reilly, AMS, Cambridge, Oxford.  They understand the math
> >> world and can advertise.   And they also are starting to understand
> >> "freeness"....  Case in point:  http://wstein.org/ent/
>
> > Come on William, how can you possibly hold Springer up as the model of
> > "openness". Where is the tex file? Where is the OSI license text?
> I wrote: 'And they also are starting to understand "freeness"....'.
>
> This is dramatically different than what you implied I wrote.
>
> William
>
> --
> William Stein
> Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washingtonhttp://wstein.org

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