On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 28 June, 22:21, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> > I don't think it is a click-through.
>>
>> > I think this publisher is for real and actually does quite a good job.
>>
>> > Apart from the fact that the cover illustrations have nothing at all
>> > to do with the content, their books seem well-written. They publish a
>> > lot of titles and they offer them much cheaper if you buy them as E-
>> > books. They ship lots of places if you want a physical copy. They also
>> > offer a single chapter from each book for evaluation before you
>> > purchase.
>>
>> > They also do seem to add value to the publication after the author is
>> > done with it.
>>
>> > It is definitely publication on a budget, but their prices seem to
>> > reflect that, and Sage does seem to be something they would definitely
>> > want to publish a book on. If I was an expert Sage user, had more
>> > time, etc, etc. I'd definitely take this seriously.
>>
>> I definitely would not.  In my opinion, the are only two reasonable
>> options for publishing Sage-related books:
>>
>>    1. Use an open license and self publish through, e.g., Lulu.    The
>> Sage community can do the hard editing work better than most
>> publishers.  (Here's I'm talking mainly about Minh Nguyen.)   I think
>> you'll earn as much money as you would get from Packt, but you get
>> 100% of the profits instead of 18%, so end buyers pay far less (and
>> get more -- due to the open license).
>>
>>    2. Publish with a very high quality reputable publisher, e.g.,
>> Springer, O'Reilly, AMS, Cambridge, Oxford.  They understand the math
>> world and can advertise.   And they also are starting to understand
>> "freeness"....  Case in point:  http://wstein.org/ent/
>
> Come on William, how can you possibly hold Springer up as the model of
> "openness". Where is the tex file? Where is the OSI license text?

I wrote: 'And they also are starting to understand "freeness"....'.

This is dramatically different than what you implied I wrote.

William

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William Stein
Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
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