sage-flame? On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Then I don't understand. What do you mean by free? I don't see how > anything at all about Springer exemplifies even a beginning of an > understanding. They are to me the archetypal proprietary publisher... > > To contrast them to Packt.... well, OK, I can download your Springer > book without paying for it. I suppose it is conceivable Packt wouldn't > allow this, if asked. > > On one point, I will agree with you. Packt are not a mathematical > publisher, They focus on IT only. Springer is a specialist in > mathematical publishing. No doubt they also have a *lot* more money to > advertise your book than Packt. > > Bill. > > On 29 June, 00:37, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On 28 June, 22:21, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I don't think it is a click-through. >> >> >> > I think this publisher is for real and actually does quite a good job. >> >> >> > Apart from the fact that the cover illustrations have nothing at all >> >> > to do with the content, their books seem well-written. They publish a >> >> > lot of titles and they offer them much cheaper if you buy them as E- >> >> > books. They ship lots of places if you want a physical copy. They also >> >> > offer a single chapter from each book for evaluation before you >> >> > purchase. >> >> >> > They also do seem to add value to the publication after the author is >> >> > done with it. >> >> >> > It is definitely publication on a budget, but their prices seem to >> >> > reflect that, and Sage does seem to be something they would definitely >> >> > want to publish a book on. If I was an expert Sage user, had more >> >> > time, etc, etc. I'd definitely take this seriously. >> >> >> I definitely would not. In my opinion, the are only two reasonable >> >> options for publishing Sage-related books: >> >> >> 1. Use an open license and self publish through, e.g., Lulu. The >> >> Sage community can do the hard editing work better than most >> >> publishers. (Here's I'm talking mainly about Minh Nguyen.) I think >> >> you'll earn as much money as you would get from Packt, but you get >> >> 100% of the profits instead of 18%, so end buyers pay far less (and >> >> get more -- due to the open license). >> >> >> 2. Publish with a very high quality reputable publisher, e.g., >> >> Springer, O'Reilly, AMS, Cambridge, Oxford. They understand the math >> >> world and can advertise. And they also are starting to understand >> >> "freeness".... Case in point: http://wstein.org/ent/ >> >> > Come on William, how can you possibly hold Springer up as the model of >> > "openness". Where is the tex file? Where is the OSI license text? >> I wrote: 'And they also are starting to understand "freeness"....'. >> >> This is dramatically different than what you implied I wrote. >> >> William >> >> -- >> William Stein >> Professor of Mathematics >> University of Washingtonhttp://wstein.org > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org >
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