On Nov 19, 5:27 pm, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think *everybody* should read that, so people understand precisely
> what sort of ego-maniac self-aggrandizing opponent the Sage project is
> up against.

Mathematica is an opponent of Sage?  Huh?  Maybe you mean competition
for Sage?


WRI presumably has a clear notion of how many licenses for Mathematica
have been sold.
Some are for multiple users, so there is probably no way of saying how
many users, exactly,
there are. Millions? probably not.  But outside of WRI, even the
number of licenses is probably not known.

As for Sage, one can tell how many downloads there have been.  Again,
some are for
multiple users.

But my recollection is that there are lots more people who appear to
have downloaded Maxima than Sage.
That doesn't count secondary distributions...

The number of messages on Sage-support is not a good measure, I
think.  As I've pointed out,
about 75% of them seem to involve Maxima.  If you add to that the
count of messages on
the Maxima mailing list, is Maxima more popular than Sage?

I think Maxima is more widely used than Sage, especially since every
Sage installation includes Maxima but
not vice versa.

 If you want to believe that Sage is, in some sense, catching up to
Mathematica, you are entitled to your opinion.

I think, however, if you actually study what is in Mathematica, its
facilities and the additional
facilities in recent versions, then you would be in a much better
position to formulate an
opinion as to relative "velocities".

>
> Also relevant 
> ishttp://blog.wolfram.com/2009/11/19/future-directions-of-wolframalpha/
> which lays out a vision of a future in which all mathematical-related
> algorithms are implemented only in a closed webserver (Wolfram Alpha).
>   In which one person absolutely controls how everybody interprets and
> thinks about mathematical computation.

If you don't like Wolfram Alpha, you don't need to use it. It appears
to be free, though not open source.

Wolfram is not my favorite person either. So what?

RJF

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