William Stein wrote:

>>> http://alpha.sagenb.org/home/pub/3/
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>> But Jason, You did not say which newsgroup data you used,  to pull the
>> data from and gave no reference/link.
>>
>> After looking, I see you used the
>>
>> sage-support
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/about?hl=en
>>
>> But actually you should also include sage-develop and any other sage
>> newsgroup which would have made sage numbers higher still.


I think the source should be added to the graph, so someone knows roughly what 
they are looking at, without having to read a long post. Perhaps a link to the 
data on the Google site, would enhance it somewhat.

> That would be interesting.  I can see why he restricted to
> sage-support though, to exclude developer discussions (like this one),
> which for Mathematica would be done in the hall (or mailing list) at
> WRI's illustrious office building.

To add is sage-devel would not give a level playing field.

>> But we are comparing apples with oranges here since Mathematics
>> newsgroup is moderated, which means the traffic will always be less as
>> a moderated group is a turn off for many users who are looking for
>> help (students and others as well) and can't wait for 2-3 days to get
>> help and wait 2-3 more days for follow up.
> 
> The Sage mailing lists are also moderated.   It's just that we're way
> better at it :-)

Even WRI employees can't post to there without the approval of the moderator!

BTW, Steve, the moderator runs sunfreeware.com.

>> btw, Matlab newsgroup gets more traffic than all the sage groups and
>> Maple and Mathematica and probably all the R groups
>> (gmane.comp.lang.*) combined :)
> 
> How many messages per month to the matlab newsgroups?
> 
>  -- William

In my experience in engineering, MATLAB does get used a lot more than 
Mathematica, so I am not at all surprised of this.

In another post, Nassar poined out this link. If you have 18 minutes to spare, 
it is worth listening to.

http://blog.wolfram.com/2009/11/12/the-rd-pipeline-for-mathematica/#more-2172



Dave


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