On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Robert Bradshaw
<rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:00 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM, mabshoff <mabsh...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 8:20 am, Martin Albrecht <m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 4.0 was discussed
>>>>
>>>> I think we should agree way in advance when 4.0 is going to be
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>>  and then allow
>>>> ourselves to break backwards compatibility: i.e. go through and
>>>> remove a
>>>> bunch of cruft (at least the stuff that has a DeprecationWarning).
>>> I don't think it is a good idea at all. Deprecation warnings are the
>>> way to go and I think even six months is too little time to give the
>>
>> I also think the above suggestion about 4.0 by Martin is not so good.
>> We already hashed out a deprecation policy, which is a gradual
>> timed (usually
>> 6-month) phasing out of functionality with DeprecationsWarning's.
>> I think it
>> works well, and that we should stick to it.
>
> I think DeprecationsWarnings are the way to go too, but Martin has a
> point that when we do actually drop support it shouldn't be on some
> tiny point release.

So the idea is that in Sage 4.0 we will drop all code that yields
DeprecationWarnings and has already been in Sage for at least 6
months?   I.e., we only purge deprecated code older than 6 months
during major releases, but not during point releases?

I think a major release like 4.0 should (1) have reached some major
longterm milestones (e.g., Solaris port, 70% doctest coverage, etc.),
and also (2) be unusually rock solid.  Deleting a bunch of code is
likely to cause subtle problems we don't think about, which conflicts
with (2).
I know that (2) is different than what most software projects do,
where their major new version releases are an unstable mess.

 -- William

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