On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Tim Lahey <tim.la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 3:17 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The possibility to dump lisp and maxima entirely from Sage keeps
>> popping into my head.   I would like this thread to be entirely 100%
>> about the technical *feasibility* of removing maxima as a standard
>> component of Sage.  Whether or not this is good/bad/political correct,
>> desirable, or undesirable, I hope won't be discussed in *this* thread.
>>
>> To start this off, in order to remove Maxima, we would have to use
>> Pynac (=ginac) (+ more) to at least mostly duplicate the calculus
>> functionality that we currently use.  Is there anything else we would
>> need to do?   How feasible is this?
>>
>> I don't mean to suggest this could be trivially done by anybody right
>> now.  I'm talking about feasibility in the sense of several very hard
>> weeks work by one of the top 10 Sage developers.
>>
>> -- William
>>
>>
>
> This is part of the reason for my integration test suite. I wanted to
> have
> a comprehensive set of integrals for Sage to test against.

That's awesome.  I'm really glad you did / are doing this.  It's by
far one of the most important steps in actually doing what I'm asking
about.  I think the time to make such a test suite should be
considered in evaluating how feasible what I'm suggesting is.

> Based upon
> what
> I've seen Maxima's integration is on the whole faster than FriCAS, but
> has
> the problem of requesting user input to narrow to one solution.

> I'm willing to work with someone on this, but I'll have to wait until I
> finish some of the contract work I'm doing. I have a definite interest
> in
> integration, ODEs, and PDEs.

I'm very glad you're willing to work on this.  That means there are
now at least 3 people very seriously interested in working on this.
(me, you, Burcin).

>  From what I understand, it is the simplification procedures, limits,
> integration, and ODE solver, and possibly summation that we would need
> to
> duplicate. I suspect that this would likely take the better part of a
> year.

It will have to happen sometime.  Better in 2009 than never.

 -- William

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