On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Harald Schilly
<harald.schi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> basically, +1
>
> On Dec 29, 10:28 pm, Burcin Erocal <bur...@erocal.org> wrote:
>> It would be good to start a wiki page to make a list of what needs to
>> be replaced/rewritten to be able to drop the maxima dependency without
>> losing functionality.
>>
>
> good idea, there could also be a separate trac milestone for all the
> tickets.
>
> I think, one major point is integration. It should be made sure, that
> all common textbook integrals work and there are test suits for them.
> Maybe, there is enough momentum behind sympy (or something else?) to
> create new implementations of algorithms. The other major point is
> solving equations - to solve systems and present complicated solutions
> as a set of cases and not the maxima questions. Definitely interesting
> to see how far this could work out... Probably, the first important
> step is a quick exchange of data between sage (pynac) and sympy.
> I don't think a fixed timetable would work out, this transition should
> happen step by step (hence the separate milstone) as the
> functionalities are replaced and probably the best idea is to just
> follow the general direction to make lisp/maxima optional. [<- at
> least, this last part is something concrete we should agree on or
> not :) ]

That's a very good point/question.  It is one thing for us to work on
making "calculus not use Maxima much", and quite another to have
"remove maxima from standard sage" as a goal.  I'm asking about
viability of the latter rather than the former.

I noticed Burcin said the following in IRC, which is related to the
above distinction:

"12:58 < burcin> I thought this was the goal all along, I don't see
why we needed a new discussion about this"

One reason we need a new discussion is that in August 2008 you and I
spent a few weeks creating Pynac and getting it into Sage.  I did
nothing subsequently on that project (Pynac, etc.) during the last 4
months, and I think this discussion is a good way to also revisit
that.

 -- William

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