On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 4:31 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:20:18 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Sun, 28 May 2023, 15:43 Matthias Koeppe, <matthia...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:31:07 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > [...] we are trying to move to using > unvendored Python packages, > i.e. these that come with "system Python", where the latter refers to > the unvendored Python used by Sage > instead of its own Python3 > > > Would you mind elaborating what you mean by this? > > > indeed, https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/29023 is the meta-ticket to > oversee this process. Needless to say this needs more effort. > > > Speaking as someone who has worked on this, I'll just add that I do not see > this as a promising or important direction for the Sage project. Mixing > system Python packages with pip-installed packages is very tricky, and I > consider it unlikely that we can create a stable solution based on this for > the Sage distribution.
You misunderstood. By "system" I don't mean the OS, I mean an environment which does not need Python packages vendored by Sage; Conda is one example of this. I certainly agree that insisting on OS Python is not a good idea. > > I can also point at the already existing possibility to use Conda's Python > packages on a Conda-based install. > > > This mode of installation > (https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html#using-conda-to-provide-all-dependencies-for-the-sage-library-experimental) > bypasses the Sage distribution entirely and installs the Sage library > separately using pip. So what? How is this relevant to the question at hand? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/9d902562-7219-46c0-a273-8c7b657b0b19n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq1LFhsStodz7BFXUUxojbDy0sot5M%2B0iA6hD%3D3y2pc08A%40mail.gmail.com.