Ted Kosan wrote:
> Harald wrote:
> 
>> but I'm more
>> and more convinced that a huge java applet is not the best way for any
>> webbased project. There are two things to consider: 1. it is much
>> heavier, concerning load time/memory and so on.
> 
> With bandwidth and memory capacity increasing exponentially, this is
> fast becoming a non-issue.
> 

I've heard that before! But I don't believe this is the panacea!

> 
> 
>> it depends on
>> installing java, that's not default on win32!
> 
> But Java installs so easily on win32 that I don't know anyone who has
> a problem doing this anymore.  Beyond this, Java runs reasonably
> uniformly across the major browsers which will avoid most of the
> multi-browser difficulties the Javascript notebook faces.  Another
> plus is that most cell phones also run Java.
> 
> 

-1

> 
>> and 2. on the javascript
>> side, in the future a lot will change when there are good JIT
>> compilers. this could make js-code possibly ~10-100x faster!
> 
> Javascript will become quicker but what I am even more interested in
> are Java's huge libraries and the huge and growing amount of open
> source software that is written in Java.  I don't see Javascript
> matching this any time soon, if ever.
> 
> Beyond this, Java is still the most popular programming language in
> existence (http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm) and so it is an extremely
> safe bet by almost any metric :-)
> 

-1

Maybe java is popular, but ask your self why? Managers want it, but they
usually don't know why!

Ok, I once thought java was the way to go, but now I'm a convert.
I hate java. E.g. why the hell the new jmoll graphics does not work on
my Fedora 7 install from the sage command line?

Jaap



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