On Dec 3, 2007 4:23 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 3, 2007 5:09 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In the mean time, this is one reason why I have been working on the > > SAGEIDE alternative to the browser-based notebook. SAGEIDE currently > > has Java3D running in it with few problems and here is a list of its > > other benefits: > > If you are going to build a local (as opposed to browser-based) > environment, I'd strongly suggest you have a look at Enthought's > tools. Envisage, in particular:
I don't think Sage should be worried at all about building a local non-browser based environment, precisely because the Enthought guys are already doing exactly that (so we don't have to!). > > - https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/wiki/EnvisageThree/Index > > here's a PDF summary: > > - > https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/attachment/wiki/Envisage/envisage-euro_python-2006.2.pdf?format=raw > > and the kinds of things you can do with it: > > - http://code.enthought.com/mayavi2/ > > This stuff is modeled after Eclipse, but with a specific focus on > scientific applications. And you get VTK as your 3d engine, which is > a state of the art 3d visualization library. It's all pure python, > written by arguably some of the best python developers around. The > envisage3 version isn't quite finished yet, but it will make a number > of things a lot easier than they were in v2. The TVTK support is > already first-rate (there have been recent threads on this list about > it already). > > I think the idea of Java in the browser is a good one, because there's > just no other way of getting certain types of functionality in a > browser. But if you're going to forgo the browser and use a local > client, then Java would be the last thing I'd use, at least for this > particular problem. Especially for a python-based project like Sage, > I think you'll get a lot more mileage out of tools like the enthought > stack than out of a Java/Jython construction. I view java3d as being for the browser-based interface to Sage. -- William --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---