On Dec 3, 2007 5:09 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In the mean time, this is one reason why I have been working on the
> SAGEIDE alternative to the browser-based notebook.  SAGEIDE currently
> has Java3D running in it with few problems and here is a list of its
> other benefits:

If you are going to build a local (as opposed to browser-based)
environment, I'd strongly suggest you have a look at Enthought's
tools.  Envisage, in particular:

- https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/wiki/EnvisageThree/Index

here's a PDF summary:

- 
https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/attachment/wiki/Envisage/envisage-euro_python-2006.2.pdf?format=raw

and the kinds of things you can do with it:

- http://code.enthought.com/mayavi2/

This stuff is modeled after Eclipse, but with a specific focus on
scientific applications.  And you get VTK as your 3d engine, which is
a state of the art 3d visualization library.  It's all pure python,
written by arguably some of the best python developers around.  The
envisage3 version isn't quite finished yet, but it will make a number
of things a lot easier than they were in v2.  The TVTK support is
already first-rate (there have been recent threads on this list about
it already).

I think the idea of Java in the browser is a good one, because there's
just no other way of getting certain types of functionality in a
browser.  But if you're going to forgo the browser and use a local
client, then Java would be the last thing I'd use, at least for this
particular problem.  Especially for a python-based project like Sage,
I think you'll get a lot more mileage out of tools like the enthought
stack than out of a Java/Jython construction.

Just my 1e-2.

Cheers,

f

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