+1

During my 14-year tenure on the registrar side, where we implemented almost 
every gTLD and many ccTLDs, I always felt well-informed by registries if they 
intended to make substantial changes. While this feature seems nice, I don’t 
know if the effort is worth it.

Best,
Tobias

> On 20. Mar 2024, at 12:59, Jody Kolker <jkolker=40godaddy....@dmarc.ietf.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just adding my 2 cents.
>  
> It seems that designing and implementing a discovery system seems to be a bit 
> complicated and will take some time to design and complete.  Every registry 
> will be contacting registrars when a new system is enabled, or at least 
> should be.  I don’t see a huge benefit of adding a service discovery system 
> compared to the amount of time it will take to design and implement.  I would 
> rather we spend our time defining the separate transport system than 
> designing a discovery system.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Jody Kolker
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>  
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> Scott, et al,
>  
> This seems to me an excellent idea, but let me suggest adding a bit more 
> content.
>  
> And before doing so, let me acknowledge that a registry will likely inform 
> its registrars well in advance of any changes and will likely provide a test 
> system for registers to use in advance of a cutover to a new transport 
> system.  But rather than depending on this alone, an automated process for 
> discovering the transport will be very helpful.
>  
> And now for the added content:
>  
> If a registry upgrades to a new transport method, it will likely operate both 
> the old and new transport for a period of time.  Indeed, it might even 
> support three or more transport methods during some periods.  Accordingly, 
> the response to a service discovery query will likely contain multiple 
> answers.  Each answer should also include a flag indicating whether it is a 
> preferred method.
>  
> But wait, there's more.
>  
> Each transport method will go through a lifecycle.  The transport method 
> lifecycle has the following states.
>  
> A. Announcement that the method will be supported in the future.  (Including 
> the anticipated date is a good idea, but the date should be interpreted as a 
> guess, not a certainty.)
>  
> B. Announcement that the method is now supported.  Include the date it became 
> supported.  (A transport method in this state is "preferred."  There should 
> be at least one method in this state, but there could be more than one.)
>  
> C. Announcement that the method that has been supported is scheduled to be 
> removed.  Include the estimated date of removal.  This will serve as notice 
> that any registrar still using the transport should move to another available 
> method that has reached state B.  (And, of course, there should indeed 
> already be at least one method in state B.)
>  
> D. Announcement that the method will become unavailable on a specific date.  
> (All use of a method in this state should have ceased.  However, if the 
> method is still in use by a registrar, it will work.  The registry's system 
> or other monitoring systems can take note and escalate attention to the 
> appropriate managers,)
>  
> E. Removal of the transport method from the set of answers.
>  
> Extension of the proposal to include these states is easy.  Just add a flag 
> to indicate whether the transport method is in state A, B, C or D, and 
> include the date.
>  
> Comments?
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:11 PM Hollenbeck, Scott 
> <shollenbeck=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> As noted during this morning’s regext session, we need to consider how a 
> client can discover the transport services provided by an EPP server. 
> Opportunistic probing is one method, another is server capability publication 
> using something like an SVCB record that’s published in a DNS zone maintained 
> by the EPP server operator. Perhaps something like this:
>  
> epp.example.net <http://epp.example.net/>.  7200  IN SVCB 3 epp.example.net 
> <http://epp.example.net/>. (
>        alpn="bar" port="700" transport="tcp")
>  
> There is no “transport” SvcParamKey currently registered with IANA, but 
> that’s easy to do. I think there’s a draft here that needs to be written.
>  
> Scott
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