On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:55:07 +0100 (CET), Bernhard Rosenkraenzer said:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, redhat.angus wrote:
>
> > what is this racism against reiserfs at RedHat.
>
> It is not racism. Racism doesn't have logical grounds.
> Not liking reiserfs does.
>
> I have actually used it, and got fed up with it when it killed the
> partition I used it on.
> It looks like once your filesystem is messed up beyond what a journal
> replay can fix, you're pretty much on your own.
>
> > Is it because some redhat kernel hacker work on ext3 that unanimously
> > all redhat developper criticize reiserfs.
>
> That's not the case.
> You know how many Red Hat developers are working on GNOME and gtk?
> I clearly prefer KDE and Qt (which I probably wouldn't admit if I were
> pushing everything developed here).
>
> > It's fast, very fast
>
> Agreed.
>
> > It's reliable
>
> Not really. It works nicely while it works, but once something breaks,
> it's very hard to recover.
>
> ext3 is much better there - since it is just an extension of ext2, all the
> (very reliable by now) tools for ext2 recovery can be used.
>
> Last time I checked, reiserfs couldn't be used with software raid, and
> the format of its journal changes with every couple of releases; it's not
> (yet) what I'd call stable code.
>
> It's nice for a toy box.
>
> > Ultimately, include reiserfs in the next release of RedHat (8.0 ?)
> > and you will put every one of agreement.
>
> It will be included when/if it matures.
>
>
Linux really NEEDS a journaling filesystem. No journalling means no desktop
since is just to easy when you power down the computer at the wrong moment to
hose the filesystem to apoint it cannot be recovered by a normal fsck.
It also means being left out of mission critical computers since you cannot
trust vital data to a filesystem who will lose it computer has a hardware or
software problem at the wrong moment.
But that does not mean it has to be ReiserFS. Ext3, SGI's XFS and IBM's JFS
are alternatives. My fear is that if distributions push Reiser right now
people will not have the incentive to look at the other filesystems due to the
chore of saving (three times), formatting, restoring. And then Linux will
standardize around the jourlaling filsystem who was first ready instead of
around the best.
I would like if distributions waited a bit until all filesystems are ready
instead of jumping on Reiser like others are doing. But I think that is
dreaming
JF Martinez
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