Jay, great questions. One of the few good things about the OutBack Skybox (I think it was that one) was the lifting holes on the upper back corners so that a bar or pipe could be run through making it much easier for a lift into place. Maybe for the 300 lb batteries lifting eyes on all four top corners so that 2 bars across the front and back could be used by 4 people to lift would be good. Of course a mechanical lift will also do the job. I've always thought that a battery that sits on the floor would be preferable unless subject to flooding. I've used different cable sizes and lengths to the extreme on my own system, and there is a slight difference in charge between batteries but it never gets too far out of balance. I do have one battery that gets slightly more cycling, but that is actually what I prefer in this instance. Remember the Aquion battery with the #12 cables and Amphenol PV connectors?
Brad On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 2:34 PM jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi All > > Im wondering about a few things as we are talking batteries. > > 1. how do people feel about the amphenol battery connector vs lugs? A lot > of batteries are going that way. Lots to like about them. > > 2. battery cable lengths. I see both things said, that they have to be > the same length or doesn’t matter. > I did a large fortress system that they wouldn’t warranty unless equal > lengths. Mind you, it would have added about 200’ of 4/0. I convinced > them by using different wire sizes to make the % VD the same and they > agreed. > > 3. battery lifting attachment points. 300# is really heavy and is it > actually more than 2 people can do via OSHA? > What about some threaded holes for lifting rings, or places for straps on > the side? > > Thanks > > jay > > > > On Feb 3, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Bill > > So far I have installed eight of the midnight power flow 16 batteries. > > The most recent was three on an Outback Radian. > > I documented that process here, even with settings. > > [image: maxresdefault.jpg] > > Outback Radian GS8048A upgraded to MidNite Powerflo16 48kWh! > <https://youtu.be/AwoaTZtHMjU?feature=shared> > youtu.be <https://youtu.be/AwoaTZtHMjU?feature=shared> > <https://youtu.be/AwoaTZtHMjU?feature=shared> > > > I also connected the Powerflo16 to XW system and the Polyon Tech > compatibility shows the details of the BMS nicely. > > Documented here. > > [image: maxresdefault.jpg] > > Connecting the MidNite Powerflo16 to Schneider XW Series Inverters > <https://youtu.be/bfWgmGNrIuE?feature=shared> > youtu.be <https://youtu.be/bfWgmGNrIuE?feature=shared> > <https://youtu.be/bfWgmGNrIuE?feature=shared> > > > I have also made a chart of LiFePO4 settings and would like some feedback, > if possible. I basically treat all 16s LiFePO4 batteries the same, Absorb > at 3.45 per cell and everything trickles down from their. > > [image: Battery SOC State of Charge Map 2025-01-22.pdf] > > Thank you, > > Maverick > > Maverick Brown > Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 > Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. > • Solar Commander Remote Power > • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection > maver...@mavericksolar.com > 512-460-9825 > > > > On Feb 2, 2025, at 10:52 PM, Bill Battagin via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Have any off-gridders done a system with Powerflo16's to power pre-LFP > OB/FX inverters? The FM80's LFP settings in this system are compatible > with LFP but I'm looking for options other than using the Aux in the CC's > wired to a NC relay and from there to the inverter on/off landings in the > green terminal of the OB/FX for the LBCO and reconnect function. > > I've been down this road before, though a different > equipment. I've used the Aux from a Classic for inverter LBCO and > reconnect though its never been fully "tested", although I read "open" and > closed" at the un-wired aux landing when I forced it with a high LBCO > setting. Just thinking about the highest reliability. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bill > > Feather River Solar Electric > Bill Battagin, owner > 4291 Nelson St. (Shipping) > 5575 Genesee Rd. (USPS, UPS) > Taylorsville, CA 95983 > 530-284-7849, 258-1641(cell) > CA. 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